NFT: Knicks Chat: Durant considering Clippers and Nets?

correct? The fact that he said 75 percent makes it seem like its a done deal to me.

They asked him who he was settimg up to go hard after and he said kawhi and kyrie because the "speculation" is durant to knicks...So he was not evem thinking about going after kd

75 percent is an awfully high number to put on it if it's no sure thing. We'll find out soon enough.

Can we pump the brakes on all the praise for Brooklyn? I like Atkinson and him and Marks have done a good job in a tough situation. But people and the media praise them like they have the Spurs track record. It’s really gotten out of hand. They weren’t even close to competitive in the playoffs. And they have a very little if any presence or following in NYC.

I think Durant’s a Knicks unless he changes course and stays in GS. But that feels more and more unlikely, especially with them winning the way they are without him. And I also think a part of the warriors actually want him to leave.

They said KP told them he was going back to europe would not resign and they had 7 days to trade him, they said ok, had trades lined up since september and executed the best one on the table

In comment 14452618 ajr2456 said:

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Mills and Perry discussing KP. Demanded a trade in 7 days else he’d go back to Europe KP - ( New Window )

Guy is an overrated injury prone clown

He’s the man. Durant might have decided already but the Clippers are also an attractive option.

In comment 14452817 Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy said:

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He’s the man. Durant might have decided already but the Clippers are also an attractive option.

This move is also about off the court stuff, lets be honest if it was vest chance to win he would stay in golden state...

going to clippers really makes little sense if you think about it

In comment 14452732 Zeke's Alibi said:

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correct? The fact that he said 75 percent makes it seem like its a done deal to me.

Exactly they can not under any circumstances portray it as a 'done' deal in any manner. For him to even say 75% is pretty telling.

Anout coming to Knicks. Which is what the most recent rumors are kind of saying. KD only needs to help convince any of Kyrie Kemba or Butler and the difference will be minimal. Kemba has been always rumored to want to play here. I think there was some stuff about Butler too.

The other guys Kawhi and Klay I dont think have any interest in coming here. But I could see us as a top destination for the other guys.

and handshake agreements and then this comes out, seems like timely leak

In comment 14452915 nygiants16 said:

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and handshake agreements and then this comes out, seems like timely leak

Which leak specifically you referring to?

In comment 14452928 Giantz_comeback said:

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In comment 14452915 nygiants16 said: Quote: and handshake agreements and then this comes out, seems like timely leak Which leak specifically you referring to?

clippers

making sure to say they are 100 percent undecided

In comment 14452937 nygiants16 said:

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In comment 14452928 Giantz_comeback said: Quote: In comment 14452915 nygiants16 said: Quote: and handshake agreements and then this comes out, seems like timely leak Which leak specifically you referring to? clippers

Ah the Kleinman stuff. Gotcha. Yes timing is interesting.

saying KD is a lock to come here, but we are going to see so many of these stories over the next month+. Im going to do my best not to get too excited by the ones that say its a lock and not stress out about the ones that say he is going to X team.

I always said that if he leaves GSW then i thought the knicks would be where he went. I just wasnt sure he was going to leave GSW, but now im thinkin that is very likely.

this narrative that the clippers and nets have 2 max slots and can add 2 players like they would be coming to what they have now..

Are these cores that much better than the knicks?

Nets: Levert, allen, kurucs, dinwiddie?

Clippers: Sga, lou will, harrell

I dont get how those cores are ao much better?

and shaking my head that Lance Thomas somehow is still a Knick.

In comment 14453436 nygiants16 said:

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this narrative that the clippers and nets have 2 max slots and can add 2 players like they would be coming to what they have now.. Are these cores that much better than the knicks? Nets: Levert, allen, kurucs, dinwiddie? Clippers: Sga, lou will, harrell I dont get how those cores are ao much better?

the knicks showed zero system- with their current team. they didnt run offense, which made chuckers look statistically ok--- and they had the worst record in the league.

so yes 2 playoff teams that have systems, where players have performed in relevant NBA games....the media will talk about them more favorably.

the nets with Levert (playoff team starter) Allen (playoff team starter) Dinwiddie (top tier 6th man on playoff team) Joe Harris (playoff starter- though shouldnt be on a very good team)--- is viewed more favorably. that is why during the season i always found it odd for the knicks to not even try and run a system while tanking.
does it mean the nets or clippers are amazing? no... but it shows they know how to play basketball

you are not playing the same system if you have kyrie and durant and you wont have the same players..

Harris would be gone because he needs to leave for the nets fit 2...

The system those teams played mean absolutrly nothing, because next year the system will be completely different..

bringing up last years system means nothing if ypu are trying to sign 2 max players...

Now if you are talking just adding 1 guy sure the system you played comes into play but when ypu have to gut your team the system means nothing

I'm with Hitdog here. Much easier to project SGA, Harrell and Lou Will being a solid supporting cast than anything the Knicks have.

this year and last year. its atkinsons system... with a bit of mike D.... Coach bud... its an actual system.

im just saying Knicks fans shouldnt be surprised its perceived the situation is worse as a starting point. the knicks ran no system and lost most all of their games.
the nets run a system that allows more marginal talent to play very well if they fit the system--- its viewed well and resulted in improvement and performance.

In comment 14453499 hitdog42 said:

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this year and last year. its atkinsons system... with a bit of mike D.... Coach bud... its an actual system. im just saying Knicks fans shouldnt be surprised its perceived the situation is worse as a starting point. the knicks ran no system and lost most all of their games. the nets run a system that allows more marginal talent to play very well if they fit the system--- its viewed well and resulted in improvement and performance.

you think he is going to run the same system with durant and kyrie?

even dantoni doesnt run his system with harden...

Durant and kyrie are not going to try to fit into his system, they are going to play the way they have always played

In comment 14453510 nygiants16 said:

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In comment 14453499 hitdog42 said: Quote: this year and last year. its atkinsons system... with a bit of mike D.... Coach bud... its an actual system. im just saying Knicks fans shouldnt be surprised its perceived the situation is worse as a starting point. the knicks ran no system and lost most all of their games. the nets run a system that allows more marginal talent to play very well if they fit the system--- its viewed well and resulted in improvement and performance. you think he is going to run the same system with durant and kyrie? even dantoni doesnt run his system with harden... Durant and kyrie are not going to try to fit into his system, they are going to play the way they have always played

he would adapt the system- like good coaches do.
spread the floor, shoot 3s, kyrie with the ball in the dlo role- very very similar to what he does---- with more sets for KD

i dont expect these guys to end up both being nets--- but it would be a great problem to have adapting that system.
the the rockets not shoot 3s and play fast paced? mike D just adapted some.

i think they played hard and played a fun style of basketball, with a bunch of young guys...

But if they gut the team to fit 2 guys they will not play the same way, they are not going to be the same team that is my point...

In comment 14453518 hitdog42 said:

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In comment 14453510 nygiants16 said: Quote: In comment 14453499 hitdog42 said: Quote: this year and last year. its atkinsons system... with a bit of mike D.... Coach bud... its an actual system. im just saying Knicks fans shouldnt be surprised its perceived the situation is worse as a starting point. the knicks ran no system and lost most all of their games. the nets run a system that allows more marginal talent to play very well if they fit the system--- its viewed well and resulted in improvement and performance. you think he is going to run the same system with durant and kyrie? even dantoni doesnt run his system with harden... Durant and kyrie are not going to try to fit into his system, they are going to play the way they have always played he would adapt the system- like good coaches do. spread the floor, shoot 3s, kyrie with the ball in the dlo role- very very similar to what he does---- with more sets for KD i dont expect these guys to end up both being nets--- but it would be a great problem to have adapting that system. the the rockets not shoot 3s and play fast paced? mike D just adapted some.

they shoot a ton of 3s but they do not play 7 seconds or less, they play 1-4 iso ball

I just feel both those teams gutted lose a lot of their appeal, their appeal is what they currently have and adding 1 guy..

My point was adding 2 guys is not going to how they are currently constructdd that was my point

In comment 14453436 nygiants16 said:

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this narrative that the clippers and nets have 2 max slots and can add 2 players like they would be coming to what they have now.. Are these cores that much better than the knicks? Nets: Levert, allen, kurucs, dinwiddie? Clippers: Sga, lou will, harrell I dont get how those cores are ao much better?

In all fairness- yes those players are much better than what the Knicks have to offer.Clippers would have Shamet too.

I really hope the Knicks players make a huge leap, but a lot of them haven't even proven they aren't bad, let alone good contributing NBA players. The Knicks young players do have potential, but they have an awful lot to prove before being compared to the above players. Lou Will, Harrell and Dinwiddie are legit NBA players...Lou Will was a fringe all star this year.

If Durant comes to the Knicks ( and I think he does), it's not going to have anything to do with the Knicks current roster.

In comment 14453537 TyreeHelmet said:

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In comment 14453436 nygiants16 said: Quote: this narrative that the clippers and nets have 2 max slots and can add 2 players like they would be coming to what they have now.. Are these cores that much better than the knicks? Nets: Levert, allen, kurucs, dinwiddie? Clippers: Sga, lou will, harrell I dont get how those cores are ao much better? In all fairness- yes those players are much better than what the Knicks have to offer.Clippers would have Shamet too. I really hope the Knicks players make a huge leap, but a lot of them haven't even proven they aren't bad, let alone good contributing NBA players. The Knicks young players do have potential, but they have an awful lot to prove before being compared to the above players. Lou Will, Harrell and Dinwiddie are legit NBA players...Lou Will was a fringe all star this year. If Durant comes to the Knicks ( and I think he does), it's not going to have anything to do with the Knicks current roster.

i agree knicks is all potential i never said they were better, i just said i dont think it is so over the top better that peoplr make it out to be...

and remember i said before the kp trade no chance durant comes to the knicks, never thought durant was coming before the kp trade

with redundant skill sets, if the dream scenario actually happens.

Smith would be an inferior version of Kyrie, Knox would be far inferior version of Durant, and Trier probably ends up being an inferior version of Barrett. Not sure you want all six of them in your rotation. At least Dotson and even Frank bring some different things to the table, and of course Mitch. If not Anthony Davis, a smaller scale trade or two should be explored to balance out the roster a bit.

last night. Photos.

The Pels can send him somewhere else for next year but it's entirely in AD's control after that.
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In comment 14453617 bceagle05 said:

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with redundant skill sets, if the dream scenario actually happens. Smith would be an inferior version of Kyrie, Knox would be far inferior version of Durant, and Trier probably ends up being an inferior version of Barrett. Not sure you want all six of them in your rotation. At least Dotson and even Frank bring some different things to the table, and of course Mitch. If not Anthony Davis, a smaller scale trade or two should be explored to balance out the roster a bit.

If you get Kyrie you will need a decent backup with the games he misses and DSG can be that

can get 20 minutes a game easy so there are still minutes for DSJ and Knox. Trier is instant offense off the bench and Barrett prolly wont come in and play 30 minutes a game. Plus most of these guys are versatile, DSJ can play both guard spots, Knox/Durant can both play 3/4, barrett/dotson 2/3, etc.. Im just not sure what kind of value these guys have. I mean if DSJ still has descent value id be fine moving him if we got Kyrie, but i dont think we need to force it.

I think if we dont make the AD trade the knicks move on to Beal. And unfortunatly i think if they dont get Beal them move onto the next guy and so on. If they get KI/KD they are going to add another player, i just hope the player is a stud like AD/Beal and not like Aaron Gordon or Kevin Love.