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| The Pentagon has finally uttered the words it always avoided when discussing the possible existence of UFOs — “unidentified aerial phenomena” — and admits that it still investigates reports of them. In a statement provided exclusively to The Post, a Department of Defense spokesman said a secret government initiative called the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program “did pursue research and investigation into unidentified aerial phenomena.” And while the DOD says it shut down the AATIP in 2012, spokesman Christopher Sherwood acknowledged that the department still investigates claimed sightings of alien spacecraft. |
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| Nick Pope, who secretly investigated UFOs for the British government during the 1990s, called the DOD’s comments a “bombshell revelation.” I’m shocked they said it that way, and the reason is, is they’ve seemingly worked very hard not to say that,” he said. “So I think that’s a pretty powerful statement because now we have actual evidence — official evidence — that said, ‘Yes, AATIP did deal with UAP cases, phenomena, videos, photos, whatever.'” Greenewald said he hopes that the Pentagon will release more information about the AATIP, either by voluntary disclosure or through requests under the federal Freedom of Information Act. “But at least we’re one step closer to the truth,” he said. |
I don't want to get political, either, but...
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That it is a fact that alien spacecraft have traveled here from distant planets and visited us.
What is your take on that. Is it scary or exciting?
What does their technological superiority over us mean to us, and how should we react to that?
I think its more likely tourism or studying the early stages of evolution. There's nothing particularly interesting or unique about our planet's resources as far as the universe is concerned. We're relatively out of the way, so the means it would require to travel here, either interstellar or inter-dimensional travel, would make it no contest if their goal was conquest. How much would you want to get involved with a termite mound on a hike through a national park?
I disagree with this opinion look at how they visit its normally for very short periods of time. If it was studying like you said a termite mound does a scientist worry about the termites see him and his instruments. UFOs on the other hand do not behave or react in the similar manner they stay very elusive when seen and they appear near military targets or nuclear sites more then just hovering over Major Cities like NYC or Paris. So their actions say more then hey just some space tourist swinging by real fast or a intelligence so beyond it could care less what we are doing.
Staying in the non political mode, I seriously doubt the intelligence agencies would share that with him.
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I highly recommend "Little Green Men: A Novel," by Christopher Buckley. Alien abductions, government cover-ups, but not quite what you think. Little Green Men @ amazon.com - ( New Window )
I was just about to put out a call for Klaatu
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People also have to remember "unidentified" doesn't automatically mean "not from this planet". It just means something couldn't be positively ID'd
President Thomas Whitmore: Mr. Levinson, contrary to what you may have read in the tabloids, there is no Area 51. There is no spaceship...
Albert Nimzicki: Uh... excuse me, Mr. President? That's not entirely accurate.
If intelligent life were nearby, that is life capable of developing technology to build a spaceship to visit Earth, we would detect them well before they arrived. It is impossible that somebody would look up in the sky and unexpectedly encounter an alien craft.
Even if the alien race was SO intelligent that they developed teleportation or learned to use a wormhole, without over-evolving into extinction or destroying themselves first, they would still have to teleport from so far away that it would be beyond the reach of our telescopes.
because I am one
Could they be here to monitor us for their own curiosity? Could they be trying to protect us from ourselves? Could they be here to conquest the planet? Could they not be from another place but from another time? Are they us from the future? Are they from another dimension?
It's beyond laughable to me for people in 2019 to try and fathom a guess as to what their possible intentions are. What is clear is that the technology we are seeing is not human. It's not the Russians or the Chinese. It's something else. And more human...most people don't seem to care. This is the greatest question we've ever faced and most people put their heads in the sand.
Our feeble minds can't hope to understand the motivations of a vastly superior society, but yet isn't that exactly what your call to action is??
I'd expect a vastly inferior society to put their heads in the sand. In fact, isn't that exactly what you are inferring should be done?
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to think that with our small, self centered minds that we could possibly begin to understand the motivations of what other civilizations' intentions might be. These civilizations could literally be millions of years more developed than we are.
Isn't the opposite of trying to determine what their intentions are is burying one's head in the sand?
The burying their heads in the sand is because we have all of these encounters happening and the vast majority of people have no interest in something that would fundamentally alter our view of of ourselves and the Universe.
What are we going to prepare for if we can't fathom the magnitude of this greatly advanced society?
Wouldn't it be a complete waste to even attempt to prepare?
The suggestion that our planet is being visited by aliens in spaceships is unreasonable and illogical.
Not because it is unlikely, but because it doesn't make sense, and would be easily independently verifiable.
2. A being that is not related to us, from a completely different part of the universe
I find #1 far more likely. It would make sense for them to observe without interfering.
#2 would likely mean we're in deep shit if they decide to enter our atmosphere.
Could they be here to monitor us for their own curiosity? Could they be trying to protect us from ourselves? Could they be here to conquest the planet? Could they not be from another place but from another time? Are they us from the future? Are they from another dimension?
It's beyond laughable to me for people in 2019 to try and fathom a guess as to what their possible intentions are. What is clear is that the technology we are seeing is not human. It's not the Russians or the Chinese. It's something else. And more human...most people don't seem to care. This is the greatest question we've ever faced and most people put their heads in the sand.
Can you be specific on what technology we are seeing that isn’t human?
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just glad we are getting to the point where we as a society can at least talk about this without calling people crazy or people just flat out ignoring the topic.
The suggestion that our planet is being visited by aliens in spaceships is unreasonable and illogical.
Not because it is unlikely, but because it doesn't make sense, and would be easily independently verifiable.
That statement is the fault of your argument nobody knows what these things are and what they are doing or why they are doing it. to write it off as illogical or unreasonable because one part of the population believes its to be aliens is why the real discussion cant take place. You are right it does not make sense but its happening and we need to figure out the 5Ws
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just glad we are getting to the point where we as a society can at least talk about this without calling people crazy or people just flat out ignoring the topic.
The suggestion that our planet is being visited by aliens in spaceships is unreasonable and illogical.
Not because it is unlikely, but because it doesn't make sense, and would be easily independently verifiable.
While I don't know whether or not this occuring, what makes you think this would independently verifiable. The would have technology so beyond our scope that it is possible we would never realize they were even there.
And that's just for these videos.
Uttered the unutterable name!!
Blez his hart...he's jessakid fercrysakes
And that's just for these videos.
Years ago I was watching a documentary about Kelly Johnson, the legendary engineer at Lockheed's fabled "Skunkworks," The guy who was involved with the design of the U-2, SR-71, and F-117, among other planes. He said they were working on things at Lockheed and elsewhere that were 50 years ahead of anything the general public might know about. So who knows what kind of experimental stuff is out there flying around, scaring the crap out of the rank-and-file?
they would still have to teleport from so far away that it would be beyond the reach of our telescopes.
If Sagan said that then he is way over estimating our ability to see past our own solar system. I mean even today our telescopes and satellites we can barely detect objects in space like asteroids and comets until they get into the interior of the solar system usually only if they are big enough. look at the oumuamua space object that was 800 meters long and was only discovered in 2017 and left just as fast. Our radio telescopes are looking for radio burst in certain frequency's who is to say they are even communicating by radio. Another way to look at it we have been pumping out radio waves for the past 100+ years if we where to develop fast as light speed in say 500 years our ships will reach the first possible star system that may have a habitable planet before those waves ever reached.
I know without a doubt some of these sightings are advance military Aircraft but then you have incidents like at the Chicago O'Hare Airport which I doubt a military test would take place in the middle of the day. Or the old Foo Fighters seen in WW2 by both Allies and Axis thinking it was the others secret weapon.
JAL Flight 1628 - ( New Window )
One of my favorite stories of all time on the topic.
And that's just for these videos.
To me, there's quite a lot of evidence that many don't care enough to look for. There are so many pilots, even astronauts who are as credible as witnesses as we could ask for. There's increasing video and radar evidence.
Of course some of, maybe a majority of UFO sightings can be explained. But for a certain %, based on evidence, Occam's Razor might suggest it's not of this world.
among God's primates, he kills for sport, or lust, or
greed. Yea, he will murder his brother to possess his
brother's land. Let him not breed in great numbers, for he
will make a desert of his home and yours. Shun him; drive
him back into his jungle lair, for he is the harbinger of
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And that's just for these videos.
Not only that, but they also show it going underwater for a distance then going back in the air and splitting into multiple objects
You realize that radio waves travel at the speed of light, right? lol
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...sorry to get 'slightly' political, but Donald Trump would hold that secret for exactly as long as it took him to race to a TV camera.
Would they tell him?
Didn't Bill Clinton once tell a story that one of the first things he did was ask about it, and he was met with a response of, "The President is on a need to know basis, and you don't need to know."
Yes. Clinton went in with 2 things. JFK and UFOS. Didn’t get shit on either - that doesn’t mean there’s nothing to be had
because I am one
Thank you for your honesty. Where do you hail from?
Think if this was our planet doing this to another planet? What is the motive if this cat/mouse game? I can understand being interested, but it seems a species this advanced could come up with better ways of doing this undetected. Small 1-2 meter satellites disguised comets could stay in low earth orbit and analyze us or just pretend to be space junk.
So that part doesn't make sense. The government investigating unidentified flying objects with purported advanced abilities does make a ton of sense.
As for Earth, the only thing interesting about it is humans. Anything we have here, advanced civilizations can have in far more abundance through mining asteroids or whatever. I dunno man. Humans are pretty cool I guess.
I think there’s a false narrative going here. Historically speaking, former government officials that have said something about this speak to the vast compartmentalization of black budget, military and naval funded projects. There’s no way to follow up on these claims unless you were directly involved, and have oversight. Clinton came right out and said that the president does not fit the criteria.
Think if this was our planet doing this to another planet? What is the motive if this cat/mouse game? I can understand being interested, but it seems a species this advanced could come up with better ways of doing this undetected. Small 1-2 meter satellites disguised comets could stay in low earth orbit and analyze us or just pretend to be space junk.
So that part doesn't make sense. The government investigating unidentified flying objects with purported advanced abilities does make a ton of sense.
As for Earth, the only thing interesting about it is humans. Anything we have here, advanced civilizations can have in far more abundance through mining asteroids or whatever. I dunno man. Humans are pretty cool I guess.
Who’s to say they are like us and think like we do. Our logic is a human invention. Who’s to say these aren’t exploratory drones totally operated by a more computational entity. Who’s to say these things aren’t time travelers from a future version of ourselves.
Or maybe they are terrestrial - or reverse engineered like bob lazar claimed decades ago.
And that's just for these videos.
Do you have a link?
While always interested in UFOs I found it hard to believe we've been visited from Outer Space, but I'm open to suggestion.
I just don't see how if they have been here, why they haven't done anything.
There have been rumors, the explosion in technology post WW II was driven by discovery of alien technology.
I listen to his interview on Joe Rogan a couple years ago and while it was interesting they are all still pretty skeptical. The fact that the New York Times and Fox News are releasing this information with official government admittance and a change of language does speak to Delonge’s perspective that the cultural narrative needs to change first - and the lack of more thoughtful dissemination of information about what’s actually been happening is part of the problem. Whether or not he actually has true inside information or not is yet to be determined. It will be an interesting story to follow though.
I for one believe that some of these encounters are very hard to explain by terrestrial means alone and I have been fascinated by this topic for years.
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Think if this was our planet doing this to another planet? What is the motive if this cat/mouse game? I can understand being interested, but it seems a species this advanced could come up with better ways of doing this undetected. Small 1-2 meter satellites disguised comets could stay in low earth orbit and analyze us or just pretend to be space junk.
So that part doesn't make sense. The government investigating unidentified flying objects with purported advanced abilities does make a ton of sense.
As for Earth, the only thing interesting about it is humans. Anything we have here, advanced civilizations can have in far more abundance through mining asteroids or whatever. I dunno man. Humans are pretty cool I guess.
Maybe they are checking in to see just how much we have grown and waiting for the right time to take us over.
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Assuming aliens exist and have advanced inter stellar technology (not an unreasonable belief), why are they risking being detected by us? Does it make sense to play these cat/mouse games? Either make it obvious or make it impossible to detect. Why in between?
Think if this was our planet doing this to another planet? What is the motive if this cat/mouse game? I can understand being interested, but it seems a species this advanced could come up with better ways of doing this undetected. Small 1-2 meter satellites disguised comets could stay in low earth orbit and analyze us or just pretend to be space junk.
So that part doesn't make sense. The government investigating unidentified flying objects with purported advanced abilities does make a ton of sense.
As for Earth, the only thing interesting about it is humans. Anything we have here, advanced civilizations can have in far more abundance through mining asteroids or whatever. I dunno man. Humans are pretty cool I guess.
Maybe they are checking in to see just how much we have grown and waiting for the right time to take us over.
I don't think so. A civilization this advanced probably has access to unbelievable energy sources such as dyson spheres or black matter. They can mine asteroids and uninhabited planets for other minerals. They may even be able to modify electrons, protons, and neutrons to create whatever atoms they need. They are likely capable of geoengineering planets for colonization.
If you were going to wipe us out you'd do it with a pathogen I think anyways. Thats something humans are capable of right now, certainly aliens are. But again, its pointless, there is nothing unique about earth except for us.
probably more powerful than us but nope, they wont show us who they are.