1. DJ LeMahieu (R) 2B
2. Aaron Hicks (S) CF
3. Luke Voit (R) DH
4. Kendrys Morales (S) 1B
5. Gio Urshela (R) 3B
6. Brett Gardner (L) LF
7. Clint Frazier (R) RF
8. Thairo Estrada (R) SS
9. Austin Romine (R) C
M. Tanaka (RHP): 58.1 IP, 3-3, 3.09 ERA, 3.76 FIP
Baltimore O's (15-34)
1. Jonathan Villar (S) 2B
2. Stevie Wilkerson (S) CF
3. Trey Mancini (R) RF
4. Dwight Smith Jr (L) LF
5. Renato Nunez (R) DH
6. Rio Ruiz (L) 3B
7. Chris Davis (L) 1B
8. Austin Wynns (R) C
9. Richie Martin (R) SS
There's no other Yankee I want to see up with the bases loaded. Doesn't matter how many outs there are either. Guy is clutch and especially so with the bags packed.
There's no other Yankee I want to see up with the bases loaded. Doesn't matter how many outs there are either. Guy is clutch and especially so with the bags packed.
Estrada is another guy who just seems to keep coming through with RISP. I feel like it's very rare I see Thairo have a poor AB - particularly with RISP.
LeMahieu is a recent batting champ and gold glove 2B.
Which is why DJ will probably spend a good bit of time playing 3B while Torres plays 2B and Didi plays SS.
When Didi is healthy, he's playing every day.
All you have to do is watch Aaron Boone talk about him.
Urshela is going to be the odd man out, but he'll still get his share of action I'm sure.
Nope, Voit will dh, Lemahieu to first, and urshela to third. Maximizes defesne and hitting.
Nope.
Stanton coming back is not going to allow us to DH Voit full time and LeMahieu has very little experience @ 1B even if he can play there.
Urshela will not continue to play every day when Didi is back.
The infield on most days is going to be Voit, Torres, Didi, DJ.
Don't know when Stanton is coming back or Judge. Assuming Stanton comes back first and is healthy, he will be in right field. You don't take Urshela out the way he is playing.
Boone (or the front office) is big on resting guys. When Didi comes back there will be plenty of AB's for everyone. That's assuming everyone is healthy then. It will be a nice "problem" to have. Plus, it's likely that Urshela comes back down to earth at some point, much as I'll hate to see that as he's been such a great story.
Also, let's not forget about Tulo! Should be back any day now!!! :).
Funny thing is that they have very similar minor league numbers, but Wade has never looked remotely like a major league hitter while Estrada certainly has.
Boone (or the front office) is big on resting guys. When Didi comes back there will be plenty of AB's for everyone. That's assuming everyone is healthy then. It will be a nice "problem" to have. Plus, it's likely that Urshela comes back down to earth at some point, much as I'll hate to see that as he's been such a great story.
This. He can rotate about everyone with all getting a break often.
Unless Frazier is sent down, he's going to be playing a bunch of RF too. Stanton can't clog up that spot every day when he's back.
You're going to have Hicks, Gardner, Frazier, and Stanton and only 3 OF spots to use them. So, unless Gardy is going to the bench on a near-permanent basis, Stanton is going to need to DH a bit. Frazier can't be up here and not play.
And if Judge gets back later in the year, then it becomes virtually impossible.
DJ will get games @ 1B - but I would bet he'll get more @ 3B and that Urshela will become a bench guy.
His bat is going to cool off anyway. He's not going to hit .336 all year.
Funny thing is that they have very similar minor league numbers, but Wade has never looked remotely like a major league hitter while Estrada certainly has.
Yeah he really has. Wade had such a good season at AAA in 2017, thought for sure he'd be good enough to be a starter somewhere, but damn he really had a hard time hitting MLB pitching.
Estrada has looked better this year in MLB than Wade ever has.
Unless Frazier is sent down, he's going to be playing a bunch of RF too. Stanton can't clog up that spot every day when he's back.
You're going to have Hicks, Gardner, Frazier, and Stanton and only 3 OF spots to use them. So, unless Gardy is going to the bench on a near-permanent basis, Stanton is going to need to DH a bit. Frazier can't be up here and not play.
And if Judge gets back later in the year, then it becomes virtually impossible.
DJ will get games @ 1B - but I would bet he'll get more @ 3B and that Urshela will become a bench guy.
His bat is going to cool off anyway. He's not going to hit .336 all year.
When Jude comes back, I agree there will be no choice. But, when Stanton is back and didi, I think there will be healthy rotation, with Urshela getting major playing time. At the moment, Frazier is not playing over Gio and Stanton is a better defender than Frazier anyway.
Unless Frazier is sent down, he's going to be playing a bunch of RF too. Stanton can't clog up that spot every day when he's back.
You're going to have Hicks, Gardner, Frazier, and Stanton and only 3 OF spots to use them. So, unless Gardy is going to the bench on a near-permanent basis, Stanton is going to need to DH a bit. Frazier can't be up here and not play.
And if Judge gets back later in the year, then it becomes virtually impossible.
DJ will get games @ 1B - but I would bet he'll get more @ 3B and that Urshela will become a bench guy.
His bat is going to cool off anyway. He's not going to hit .336 all year.
When Jude comes back, I agree there will be no choice. But, when Stanton is back and didi, I think there will be healthy rotation, with Urshela getting major playing time. At the moment, Frazier is not playing over Gio and Stanton is a better defender than Frazier anyway.
Frazier won't stay up here if he's not playing - if he's here, he's going to be in the lineup most days. And that's probably going to be a lot of RF since Gardner is basically all LF/CF.
There's going to be a lot of rotating - I just don't expect LeMahieu to become the primary 1B. That's not really his spot and it's actually sort of wasting his glove to put him there. Urshela isn't going to continue to play every day when Didi returns - it's just not feasible. He'll find his way into the lineup a few times a week, but I just don't see him continuing to be the every day 3B.
but if we lose this game it's 100% on Boone. He's managing like it's a free game. No reason to push Holder two innings. Ottovino, Britton and Chapman should all be available today (plus resting a red hot Torres).
I realize we don't want to burn our best relievers out but none of these guys have been overused lately. This game counts as much as any other in the standings.
Unless Frazier is sent down, he's going to be playing a bunch of RF too. Stanton can't clog up that spot every day when he's back.
You're going to have Hicks, Gardner, Frazier, and Stanton and only 3 OF spots to use them. So, unless Gardy is going to the bench on a near-permanent basis, Stanton is going to need to DH a bit. Frazier can't be up here and not play.
And if Judge gets back later in the year, then it becomes virtually impossible.
DJ will get games @ 1B - but I would bet he'll get more @ 3B and that Urshela will become a bench guy.
His bat is going to cool off anyway. He's not going to hit .336 all year.
When Jude comes back, I agree there will be no choice. But, when Stanton is back and didi, I think there will be healthy rotation, with Urshela getting major playing time. At the moment, Frazier is not playing over Gio and Stanton is a better defender than Frazier anyway.
Frazier won't stay up here if he's not playing - if he's here, he's going to be in the lineup most days. And that's probably going to be a lot of RF since Gardner is basically all LF/CF.
There's going to be a lot of rotating - I just don't expect LeMahieu to become the primary 1B. That's not really his spot and it's actually sort of wasting his glove to put him there. Urshela isn't going to continue to play every day when Didi returns - it's just not feasible. He'll find his way into the lineup a few times a week, but I just don't see him continuing to be the every day 3B.
Frazier's playing time has already dipped a lot and will even more so when Stanton returns, maybe even sent down. Plus Gio and didi are stud defenders, and Gleyber isn't going to dh. However, if Gio hitting declines, the decision is easy, but if he maintains his line, he will play most days.
Unless Frazier is sent down, he's going to be playing a bunch of RF too. Stanton can't clog up that spot every day when he's back.
You're going to have Hicks, Gardner, Frazier, and Stanton and only 3 OF spots to use them. So, unless Gardy is going to the bench on a near-permanent basis, Stanton is going to need to DH a bit. Frazier can't be up here and not play.
And if Judge gets back later in the year, then it becomes virtually impossible.
DJ will get games @ 1B - but I would bet he'll get more @ 3B and that Urshela will become a bench guy.
His bat is going to cool off anyway. He's not going to hit .336 all year.
When Jude comes back, I agree there will be no choice. But, when Stanton is back and didi, I think there will be healthy rotation, with Urshela getting major playing time. At the moment, Frazier is not playing over Gio and Stanton is a better defender than Frazier anyway.
Frazier won't stay up here if he's not playing - if he's here, he's going to be in the lineup most days. And that's probably going to be a lot of RF since Gardner is basically all LF/CF.
There's going to be a lot of rotating - I just don't expect LeMahieu to become the primary 1B. That's not really his spot and it's actually sort of wasting his glove to put him there. Urshela isn't going to continue to play every day when Didi returns - it's just not feasible. He'll find his way into the lineup a few times a week, but I just don't see him continuing to be the every day 3B.
Frazier's playing time has already dipped a lot and will even more so when Stanton returns, maybe even sent down. Plus Gio and didi are stud defenders, and Gleyber isn't going to dh. However, if Gio hitting declines, the decision is easy, but if he maintains his line, he will play most days.
Where are you getting that Frazier's PT has "dipped a lot" ?
I think he's been out of the lineup once since he came off IL. He's played nearly every day since.
No shit. What a dumb move trying to save the pen. You win what you can when you can. Kahnle or Ottavino should have started the 8th.
1000% yes. He's managing like he's fine to win 3 of 4 here. That's B.S. When you get a chance to win you need to take it. None of out top BP arms have been overused lately.
At the very minimum let Kahnle start the 8th inning.
Frazier's playing time has already dipped a lot and will even more so when Stanton returns, maybe even sent down. Plus Gio and didi are stud defenders, and Gleyber isn't going to dh. However, if Gio hitting declines, the decision is easy, but if he maintains his line, he will play most days.
Urshela will get playing time. But he will not be starting over LeMahieu, Gregorios or Torres. He will work in, but not start over those three.
Boone has done a great job most of this year - but yeah, lazy managing today. He's managed this entire thing from the lineup to the in-game as if it was just house money and an automatic win.
Can't do that - especially not in the division. I don't care how bad Baltimore is. Holder needed to come out after he put the first guy on in the 8th.
Could easily have just had Kahnle start the inning and use Britton to close if they want to stay away from Chapman.
RE: I generally don’t like to jump on Boone when one Â
losing a game on the road after having won three can be termed as a crushing loss, this one sure would be. Now that they have flushed a 5-1 lead in the 8th by needlessly trying to stretch one of their lesser relievers, they now have their best relievers warming up.
I don't know if Givens just had no control or what - he almost hit Hicks 3 times and almost hit Voit too.
Maybe they're still miffed over Green pegging one of their guys in the ribs yesterday - but I can't imagine Givens would be looking to put anyone on in that spot.
I agree with you. Even though I know W-L records for pitchers are kind of silly it's sort of ingrained in me to look at them and evaluate a pitcher at least in part on them. For example I love that German is 9-1 and feel like that accurately shows how we'll he's pitched.
But Tanaka has been almost as good as is only 3-3.
And Kahnle gets the win despite giving up a 3 run game tying HR to boot!
RE: RE: Jack Curry on the YES Postgame is a great listen Â
The post games were pretty rough when it was Lorenz by himself back there.
Agree 100%. You know when it's just Bob on the postgame show, that it's going to be a short and sweet postgame; which is fine when we lose, haha. But when we win, I want Jack Curry there to analyze. I want to relive the win.
Really want to checkout the book he wrote with David Cone called "Full Count." I'd imagine it's a good read from those two guys. Apparently, that's where Jack was when he wasn't on the postgame, out on the road promoting the book with Cone. Glad he's back now.
I agree with you. Even though I know W-L records for pitchers are kind of silly it's sort of ingrained in me to look at them and evaluate a pitcher at least in part on them. For example I love that German is 9-1 and feel like that accurately shows how we'll he's pitched.
But Tanaka has been almost as good as is only 3-3.
And Kahnle gets the win despite giving up a 3 run game tying HR to boot!
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To fans, it may be silly, not sure starting pitchers feel the same way.
That's how I look at it. Yes it's de-valued, but to starting pitchers, maybe not so much.
just shows you how it's a stupid stat. Judge players based on how they perform, not how the team performs around them.
To be clear, I agree with you on this. But I still like to see the pitcher who deserves the W get it.
Speaking of stats being stupid...Holder got a “Hold” for today’s game, since the actual tying run was the hitter who hit the home run off of Kahnle. In other words, Holder “held” the 4 run lead by only being charged with 3 runs
as the “opener” tomorrow night. I wonder what the plan is after that...
My first thought was Cessa but now that CC's shelved for at least one start, I'm thinking he'll get it. My guess now is we'll probably see some combo of Cortes Jr and Hale tomorrow.
Maybe Cessa gets thrown in there too and they call someone up for CC's start but I'm thinking they hold Cessa back.
Reflecting on today's game, I completely understand why Boone took the flak for a second inning from Holder. But if you look at the big picture including tomorrow - some relievers have to go 2 innings and not just 1. I mean - our starters, we're lucky if they go 5. So I think the Yanks are trying to develop a bullpen where, say, three of the guys are "2 inning" guys and not just one.
Series game 1: 5-1-1-1-1 (the "big four" relieve)
Series game 2: 6-2-1 (you need a 2-inning reliever after last night)
Series game 3: repeat game 1
Series game 4: 4-2-2-1 (not a strong starter)
Put differently, since we are seriously lacking starters and those we have go 6 at most and usually 5 - I understand Boone trying to get 2 innings out of some relievers. Hope that's not completely incoherent ...
I like Holder for that role. So that makes sense to me.
Yeah it makes sense to me too.
If Boone was intent on getting two innings from him, today up 4 vs the O's was the time to do it. He got hurt by the two walks and honestly that's not something we usually see from Holder. Totally out of character for him to walk two like that.
I like Holder for that role. So that makes sense to me.
Yeah it makes sense to me too.
If Boone was intent on getting two innings from him, today up 4 vs the O's was the time to do it. He got hurt by the two walks and honestly that's not something we usually see from Holder. Totally out of character for him to walk two like that.
Yes, true and Holder is normally good for it. But why have Otto up and throwing in the 7th? And why wait until the hit after the two walks to bring in Kahnle. Holder was all over the place that inning, high, low, in, out. Boone should have brought who ever was ready in after the two walks.
I like Holder for that role. So that makes sense to me.
Yeah it makes sense to me too.
If Boone was intent on getting two innings from him, today up 4 vs the O's was the time to do it. He got hurt by the two walks and honestly that's not something we usually see from Holder. Totally out of character for him to walk two like that.
Yes, true and Holder is normally good for it. But why have Otto up and throwing in the 7th? And why wait until the hit after the two walks to bring in Kahnle. Holder was all over the place that inning, high, low, in, out. Boone should have brought who ever was ready in after the two walks.
Yeah I agree with that section. Those two walks were a clear sign to me Holder wasn't himself for whatever reason, and I wanted him out after the second one as well.
The walks were like a Bat signal for me and I'm not sure what Boone was looking at or for to not make the change right after the second one. That's not Holder and he should've been pulled right then, no question.
The walks were like a Bat signal for me and I'm not sure what Boone was looking at or for to not make the change right after the second one. That's not Holder and he should've been pulled right then, no question.
Boone has done a good job of character building this year. He let German dig himself out of a bases loaded jam last time rather than call the pen. My guess is he wanted to let Holder dig himself out, figure out how to pitch through a loss of control. It builds confidence for the end of the year and post season.
I thought it was a dumb move yesterday, but maybe early on he is trying to bullet proof these guys. A teaching moment. Now he can get with Rothschild and the catchers look at film and think through the inning to see how to correct it.....
or it was just a dumbass moment.
Boone whiffed with the pen yesterday, but thankfully the Yanks Â
are good enough (and the Orioles suck enough) that we won anyway.
But overall Boone’s done a great job managing the pen through injuries and inconsistency. It helps that Kahnle, Britton, Ottovino and Chapman have been mostly excellent of course.
Here ya go, Jints...
New York Yankees (31-17)
1. DJ LeMahieu (R) 2B
2. Aaron Hicks (S) CF
3. Luke Voit (R) DH
4. Kendrys Morales (S) 1B
5. Gio Urshela (R) 3B
6. Brett Gardner (L) LF
7. Clint Frazier (R) RF
8. Thairo Estrada (R) SS
9. Austin Romine (R) C
M. Tanaka (RHP): 58.1 IP, 3-3, 3.09 ERA, 3.76 FIP
Baltimore O's (15-34)
1. Jonathan Villar (S) 2B
2. Stevie Wilkerson (S) CF
3. Trey Mancini (R) RF
4. Dwight Smith Jr (L) LF
5. Renato Nunez (R) DH
6. Rio Ruiz (L) 3B
7. Chris Davis (L) 1B
8. Austin Wynns (R) C
9. Richie Martin (R) SS
D. Bundy (RHP): 46.1 IP, 2-5, 4.66 ERA, 5.63 FIP
I'll take a strikeout too.
Masa gets out of it quickly with the next pitch.
1-0, Birds.
Masa gets out of it quickly with the next pitch.
1-0, Birds.
Yep, bad footwork by Estrada - not a fan of the toss by LeMahieu either. Should have been an "easy" DP as hard as that was hit.
Fack.
3 feet higher and that thing was gone.
Instead... a single!
Right now not too impressed with Morales..
He seems to like this ballpark almost as much as Gley and Gary.
Going forward, the infield needs to be Voit/LeMahieu/Torres/Urshela.
Period.
I will fight anyone who disagrees.
3-1 NYY!
He goes both ways....
Going forward, the infield needs to be Voit/LeMahieu/Torres/Urshela.
Period.
I will fight anyone who disagrees.
3-1 NYY!
Well, you might have to fight Didi in a few weeks...
Going forward, the infield needs to be Voit/LeMahieu/Torres/Urshela.
Period.
I will fight anyone who disagrees.
3-1 NYY!
Better throw that first punch when Didi gets back!
The dude is now 7 for 14 this season with two outs and RISP. Really? Just amazing.
There's no other Yankee I want to see up with the bases loaded. Doesn't matter how many outs there are either. Guy is clutch and especially so with the bags packed.
So true. Been that way for some of his starts since he came here. So weird.
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There's no other Yankee I want to see up with the bases loaded. Doesn't matter how many outs there are either. Guy is clutch and especially so with the bags packed.
Same.
What a wild year this has been so far.
And younger.
LeMahieu is a recent batting champ and gold glove 2B.
And younger.
LeMahieu is a recent batting champ and gold glove 2B.
Which is why DJ will probably spend a good bit of time playing 3B while Torres plays 2B and Didi plays SS.
When Didi is healthy, he's playing every day.
All you have to do is watch Aaron Boone talk about him.
Urshela is going to be the odd man out, but he'll still get his share of action I'm sure.
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Gleyber Torres is even better.
And younger.
LeMahieu is a recent batting champ and gold glove 2B.
Which is why DJ will probably spend a good bit of time playing 3B while Torres plays 2B and Didi plays SS.
When Didi is healthy, he's playing every day.
All you have to do is watch Aaron Boone talk about him.
Urshela is going to be the odd man out, but he'll still get his share of action I'm sure.
Nope, Voit will dh, Lemahieu to first, and urshela to third. Maximizes defesne and hitting.
And younger.
LeMahieu is a recent batting champ and gold glove 2B.
Didi is a better SS. More dependable. Not a put down of Torres, Didi is simply better right now.
Scary how good this infield can be.
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Gleyber Torres is even better.
And younger.
LeMahieu is a recent batting champ and gold glove 2B.
Which is why DJ will probably spend a good bit of time playing 3B while Torres plays 2B and Didi plays SS.
When Didi is healthy, he's playing every day.
All you have to do is watch Aaron Boone talk about him.
Urshela is going to be the odd man out, but he'll still get his share of action I'm sure.
Nope, Voit will dh, Lemahieu to first, and urshela to third. Maximizes defesne and hitting.
Nope.
Stanton coming back is not going to allow us to DH Voit full time and LeMahieu has very little experience @ 1B even if he can play there.
Urshela will not continue to play every day when Didi is back.
The infield on most days is going to be Voit, Torres, Didi, DJ.
Now what - Otto in the 8th and Britton to close?
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Gleyber Torres is even better.
And younger.
LeMahieu is a recent batting champ and gold glove 2B.
Which is why DJ will probably spend a good bit of time playing 3B while Torres plays 2B and Didi plays SS.
When Didi is healthy, he's playing every day.
All you have to do is watch Aaron Boone talk about him.
Urshela is going to be the odd man out, but he'll still get his share of action I'm sure.
Nope, Voit will dh, Lemahieu to first, and urshela to third. Maximizes defesne and hitting.
Nope.
Stanton coming back is not going to allow us to DH Voit full time and LeMahieu has very little experience @ 1B even if he can play there.
Urshela will not continue to play every day when Didi is back.
The infield on most days is going to be Voit, Torres, Didi, DJ.
Don't know when Stanton is coming back or Judge. Assuming Stanton comes back first and is healthy, he will be in right field. You don't take Urshela out the way he is playing.
Seriously, perfect last name for a reliever.
Also, let's not forget about Tulo! Should be back any day now!!! :).
When he is going well, Voit is mashing to right center. Good sign right there.
This. He can rotate about everyone with all getting a break often.
You're going to have Hicks, Gardner, Frazier, and Stanton and only 3 OF spots to use them. So, unless Gardy is going to the bench on a near-permanent basis, Stanton is going to need to DH a bit. Frazier can't be up here and not play.
And if Judge gets back later in the year, then it becomes virtually impossible.
DJ will get games @ 1B - but I would bet he'll get more @ 3B and that Urshela will become a bench guy.
His bat is going to cool off anyway. He's not going to hit .336 all year.
Yeah he really has. Wade had such a good season at AAA in 2017, thought for sure he'd be good enough to be a starter somewhere, but damn he really had a hard time hitting MLB pitching.
Estrada has looked better this year in MLB than Wade ever has.
I just don’t see how you sit the best defensive 3B on the team—Urshela—who is batting .350 and seems to come through in the clutch every time.
I just don’t see how you sit the best defensive 3B on the team—Urshela—who is batting .350 and seems to come through in the clutch every time.
I don't think LeMahieu is really any sort of downgrade from Urshela defensively.
You're going to have Hicks, Gardner, Frazier, and Stanton and only 3 OF spots to use them. So, unless Gardy is going to the bench on a near-permanent basis, Stanton is going to need to DH a bit. Frazier can't be up here and not play.
And if Judge gets back later in the year, then it becomes virtually impossible.
DJ will get games @ 1B - but I would bet he'll get more @ 3B and that Urshela will become a bench guy.
His bat is going to cool off anyway. He's not going to hit .336 all year.
When Jude comes back, I agree there will be no choice. But, when Stanton is back and didi, I think there will be healthy rotation, with Urshela getting major playing time. At the moment, Frazier is not playing over Gio and Stanton is a better defender than Frazier anyway.
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Unless Frazier is sent down, he's going to be playing a bunch of RF too. Stanton can't clog up that spot every day when he's back.
You're going to have Hicks, Gardner, Frazier, and Stanton and only 3 OF spots to use them. So, unless Gardy is going to the bench on a near-permanent basis, Stanton is going to need to DH a bit. Frazier can't be up here and not play.
And if Judge gets back later in the year, then it becomes virtually impossible.
DJ will get games @ 1B - but I would bet he'll get more @ 3B and that Urshela will become a bench guy.
His bat is going to cool off anyway. He's not going to hit .336 all year.
When Jude comes back, I agree there will be no choice. But, when Stanton is back and didi, I think there will be healthy rotation, with Urshela getting major playing time. At the moment, Frazier is not playing over Gio and Stanton is a better defender than Frazier anyway.
Frazier won't stay up here if he's not playing - if he's here, he's going to be in the lineup most days. And that's probably going to be a lot of RF since Gardner is basically all LF/CF.
There's going to be a lot of rotating - I just don't expect LeMahieu to become the primary 1B. That's not really his spot and it's actually sort of wasting his glove to put him there. Urshela isn't going to continue to play every day when Didi returns - it's just not feasible. He'll find his way into the lineup a few times a week, but I just don't see him continuing to be the every day 3B.
I realize we don't want to burn our best relievers out but none of these guys have been overused lately. This game counts as much as any other in the standings.
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Unless Frazier is sent down, he's going to be playing a bunch of RF too. Stanton can't clog up that spot every day when he's back.
You're going to have Hicks, Gardner, Frazier, and Stanton and only 3 OF spots to use them. So, unless Gardy is going to the bench on a near-permanent basis, Stanton is going to need to DH a bit. Frazier can't be up here and not play.
And if Judge gets back later in the year, then it becomes virtually impossible.
DJ will get games @ 1B - but I would bet he'll get more @ 3B and that Urshela will become a bench guy.
His bat is going to cool off anyway. He's not going to hit .336 all year.
When Jude comes back, I agree there will be no choice. But, when Stanton is back and didi, I think there will be healthy rotation, with Urshela getting major playing time. At the moment, Frazier is not playing over Gio and Stanton is a better defender than Frazier anyway.
Frazier won't stay up here if he's not playing - if he's here, he's going to be in the lineup most days. And that's probably going to be a lot of RF since Gardner is basically all LF/CF.
There's going to be a lot of rotating - I just don't expect LeMahieu to become the primary 1B. That's not really his spot and it's actually sort of wasting his glove to put him there. Urshela isn't going to continue to play every day when Didi returns - it's just not feasible. He'll find his way into the lineup a few times a week, but I just don't see him continuing to be the every day 3B.
Frazier's playing time has already dipped a lot and will even more so when Stanton returns, maybe even sent down. Plus Gio and didi are stud defenders, and Gleyber isn't going to dh. However, if Gio hitting declines, the decision is easy, but if he maintains his line, he will play most days.
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In comment 14453891 arcarsenal said:
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Unless Frazier is sent down, he's going to be playing a bunch of RF too. Stanton can't clog up that spot every day when he's back.
You're going to have Hicks, Gardner, Frazier, and Stanton and only 3 OF spots to use them. So, unless Gardy is going to the bench on a near-permanent basis, Stanton is going to need to DH a bit. Frazier can't be up here and not play.
And if Judge gets back later in the year, then it becomes virtually impossible.
DJ will get games @ 1B - but I would bet he'll get more @ 3B and that Urshela will become a bench guy.
His bat is going to cool off anyway. He's not going to hit .336 all year.
When Jude comes back, I agree there will be no choice. But, when Stanton is back and didi, I think there will be healthy rotation, with Urshela getting major playing time. At the moment, Frazier is not playing over Gio and Stanton is a better defender than Frazier anyway.
Frazier won't stay up here if he's not playing - if he's here, he's going to be in the lineup most days. And that's probably going to be a lot of RF since Gardner is basically all LF/CF.
There's going to be a lot of rotating - I just don't expect LeMahieu to become the primary 1B. That's not really his spot and it's actually sort of wasting his glove to put him there. Urshela isn't going to continue to play every day when Didi returns - it's just not feasible. He'll find his way into the lineup a few times a week, but I just don't see him continuing to be the every day 3B.
Frazier's playing time has already dipped a lot and will even more so when Stanton returns, maybe even sent down. Plus Gio and didi are stud defenders, and Gleyber isn't going to dh. However, if Gio hitting declines, the decision is easy, but if he maintains his line, he will play most days.
Where are you getting that Frazier's PT has "dipped a lot" ?
I think he's been out of the lineup once since he came off IL. He's played nearly every day since.
1000% yes. He's managing like he's fine to win 3 of 4 here. That's B.S. When you get a chance to win you need to take it. None of out top BP arms have been overused lately.
At the very minimum let Kahnle start the 8th inning.
Frazier's playing time has already dipped a lot and will even more so when Stanton returns, maybe even sent down. Plus Gio and didi are stud defenders, and Gleyber isn't going to dh. However, if Gio hitting declines, the decision is easy, but if he maintains his line, he will play most days.
Urshela will get playing time. But he will not be starting over LeMahieu, Gregorios or Torres. He will work in, but not start over those three.
Can't do that - especially not in the division. I don't care how bad Baltimore is. Holder needed to come out after he put the first guy on in the 8th.
Could easily have just had Kahnle start the inning and use Britton to close if they want to stay away from Chapman.
It's also fair to ask, where was Britton after the O's scored a run?
Yep, caught looking at a meatball change. Looking to slam a FB there. ooops.
I really like Boone but this shit pisses me off - all of these games count the same in the standings and to give one away is absolutely inexcusable.
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move doesn’t work out when on balance he’s been very good this season so far, but it’s fair to say sticking with Holder wasn’t smart.
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It's also fair to ask, where was Britton after the O's scored a run?
Probably the closer. Chapman was rough last night.
Cmon DJ!
In addition to warming up both Ottavino and Britton anyway.
Let's go, Hicksie!
6-5, Yanks.
David Hale?
Maybe he can let one of our position players pitch to save the pen an inning here.
Maybe they're still miffed over Green pegging one of their guys in the ribs yesterday - but I can't imagine Givens would be looking to put anyone on in that spot.
Wasn't an easy one, but it doesn't matter.
15 over .500 now.
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Green in the 9th?
Maybe he can let one of our position players pitch to save the pen an inning here.
Green will probably be the 'can opener' tomorrow...
Bailed out Boone again, just dumb moves by him.
Anyway 4 game sweep. Hopefully a lesson learned. All wins are good wins.
Sad part is Masa not getting the win, which he deserved hanging in there.
Bullpen was fine - Boone effed up.
LOL, I heard that too. Flash is awful.
Love having Kenny in the booth when we're in Baltimore but Flash actually makes me miss Michael.
Was glad to see him back - love Jack.
The post games were pretty rough when it was Lorenz by himself back there.
To be clear, I agree with you on this. But I still like to see the pitcher who deserves the W get it.
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Really? Blowing a 4 run lead is a nice job? LOL. He's easily the worst YES announcer and it's not close.
Bullpen was fine - Boone effed up.
Bring back Al Leiter in the booth, oh wait.
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But Tanaka has been almost as good as is only 3-3.
And Kahnle gets the win despite giving up a 3 run game tying HR to boot!
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most of the time.
Was glad to see him back - love Jack.
The post games were pretty rough when it was Lorenz by himself back there.
Agree 100%. You know when it's just Bob on the postgame show, that it's going to be a short and sweet postgame; which is fine when we lose, haha. But when we win, I want Jack Curry there to analyze. I want to relive the win.
Really want to checkout the book he wrote with David Cone called "Full Count." I'd imagine it's a good read from those two guys. Apparently, that's where Jack was when he wasn't on the postgame, out on the road promoting the book with Cone. Glad he's back now.
But Tanaka has been almost as good as is only 3-3.
And Kahnle gets the win despite giving up a 3 run game tying HR to boot!
To fans, it may be silly, not sure starting pitchers feel the same way.
That's how I look at it. Yes it's de-valued, but to starting pitchers, maybe not so much.
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just shows you how it's a stupid stat. Judge players based on how they perform, not how the team performs around them.
To be clear, I agree with you on this. But I still like to see the pitcher who deserves the W get it.
Speaking of stats being stupid...Holder got a “Hold” for today’s game, since the actual tying run was the hitter who hit the home run off of Kahnle. In other words, Holder “held” the 4 run lead by only being charged with 3 runs
LLLLLLLLLosers.
My first thought was Cessa but now that CC's shelved for at least one start, I'm thinking he'll get it. My guess now is we'll probably see some combo of Cortes Jr and Hale tomorrow.
Maybe Cessa gets thrown in there too and they call someone up for CC's start but I'm thinking they hold Cessa back.
Reflecting on today's game, I completely understand why Boone took the flak for a second inning from Holder. But if you look at the big picture including tomorrow - some relievers have to go 2 innings and not just 1. I mean - our starters, we're lucky if they go 5. So I think the Yanks are trying to develop a bullpen where, say, three of the guys are "2 inning" guys and not just one.
Series game 1: 5-1-1-1-1 (the "big four" relieve)
Series game 2: 6-2-1 (you need a 2-inning reliever after last night)
Series game 3: repeat game 1
Series game 4: 4-2-2-1 (not a strong starter)
Put differently, since we are seriously lacking starters and those we have go 6 at most and usually 5 - I understand Boone trying to get 2 innings out of some relievers. Hope that's not completely incoherent ...
Yeah it makes sense to me too.
If Boone was intent on getting two innings from him, today up 4 vs the O's was the time to do it. He got hurt by the two walks and honestly that's not something we usually see from Holder. Totally out of character for him to walk two like that.
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I like Holder for that role. So that makes sense to me.
Yeah it makes sense to me too.
If Boone was intent on getting two innings from him, today up 4 vs the O's was the time to do it. He got hurt by the two walks and honestly that's not something we usually see from Holder. Totally out of character for him to walk two like that.
Yes, true and Holder is normally good for it. But why have Otto up and throwing in the 7th? And why wait until the hit after the two walks to bring in Kahnle. Holder was all over the place that inning, high, low, in, out. Boone should have brought who ever was ready in after the two walks.
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In comment 14454358 adamg said:
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I like Holder for that role. So that makes sense to me.
Yeah it makes sense to me too.
If Boone was intent on getting two innings from him, today up 4 vs the O's was the time to do it. He got hurt by the two walks and honestly that's not something we usually see from Holder. Totally out of character for him to walk two like that.
Yes, true and Holder is normally good for it. But why have Otto up and throwing in the 7th? And why wait until the hit after the two walks to bring in Kahnle. Holder was all over the place that inning, high, low, in, out. Boone should have brought who ever was ready in after the two walks.
Yeah I agree with that section. Those two walks were a clear sign to me Holder wasn't himself for whatever reason, and I wanted him out after the second one as well.
The walks were like a Bat signal for me and I'm not sure what Boone was looking at or for to not make the change right after the second one. That's not Holder and he should've been pulled right then, no question.
The walks were like a Bat signal for me and I'm not sure what Boone was looking at or for to not make the change right after the second one. That's not Holder and he should've been pulled right then, no question.
Boone has done a good job of character building this year. He let German dig himself out of a bases loaded jam last time rather than call the pen. My guess is he wanted to let Holder dig himself out, figure out how to pitch through a loss of control. It builds confidence for the end of the year and post season.
I thought it was a dumb move yesterday, but maybe early on he is trying to bullet proof these guys. A teaching moment. Now he can get with Rothschild and the catchers look at film and think through the inning to see how to correct it.....
or it was just a dumbass moment.
But overall Boone’s done a great job managing the pen through injuries and inconsistency. It helps that Kahnle, Britton, Ottovino and Chapman have been mostly excellent of course.