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Jints in Carolina : 5/23/2019 12:35 pm
I'm still at the ACC baseball tournament so here is your game thread.

Someone post lineups.
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RE: Urshela  
section125 : 5/23/2019 2:22 pm : link
In comment 14453779 GruningsOnTheHill said:
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Yet again comes through in the clutch.

Going forward, the infield needs to be Voit/LeMahieu/Torres/Urshela.

Period.

I will fight anyone who disagrees.

3-1 NYY!


Better throw that first punch when Didi gets back!
Maybe Gio will be this year's Voit.  
Dave in Hoboken : 5/23/2019 2:23 pm : link
Voit is still one of the bigger contributors on the team a year later; even when the big names (Judge and Stanton, etc) are around.
RE: Man he's just nails this year...  
rnargi : 5/23/2019 2:24 pm : link
In comment 14453787 rnargi said:
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...serioulsly, literally, unbelievable. No one predicted...hell no one COULD have predicted...his play this season so far.


The dude is now 7 for 14 this season with two outs and RISP. Really? Just amazing.
RE: .  
Eman11 : 5/23/2019 2:24 pm : link
In comment 14453766 arcarsenal said:
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Giiiiioooooooooooo


There's no other Yankee I want to see up with the bases loaded. Doesn't matter how many outs there are either. Guy is clutch and especially so with the bags packed.
Somedays it appears Tanaka  
section125 : 5/23/2019 2:32 pm : link
is having an awful day and you look up and in 6 innings he's given up 1 run and 5 hits......
Is anyone else seeing comments lagging?  
adamg : 5/23/2019 2:33 pm : link
Maybe I'm just hallucinating...
RE: Somedays it appears Tanaka  
Dave in Hoboken : 5/23/2019 2:33 pm : link
In comment 14453806 section125 said:
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is having an awful day and you look up and in 6 innings he's given up 1 run and 5 hits......


So true. Been that way for some of his starts since he came here. So weird.
RE: RE: .  
arcarsenal : 5/23/2019 2:34 pm : link
In comment 14453797 Eman11 said:
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In comment 14453766 arcarsenal said:


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Giiiiioooooooooooo



There's no other Yankee I want to see up with the bases loaded. Doesn't matter how many outs there are either. Guy is clutch and especially so with the bags packed.


Same.

What a wild year this has been so far.
Didi is great  
GruningsOnTheHill : 5/23/2019 2:35 pm : link
Gleyber Torres is even better.

And younger.

LeMahieu is a recent batting champ and gold glove 2B.
Estrada and Romine manufacturing runs  
adamg : 5/23/2019 2:36 pm : link
smart baseball
RE: Didi is great  
arcarsenal : 5/23/2019 2:37 pm : link
In comment 14453812 GruningsOnTheHill said:
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Gleyber Torres is even better.

And younger.

LeMahieu is a recent batting champ and gold glove 2B.


Which is why DJ will probably spend a good bit of time playing 3B while Torres plays 2B and Didi plays SS.

When Didi is healthy, he's playing every day.

All you have to do is watch Aaron Boone talk about him.

Urshela is going to be the odd man out, but he'll still get his share of action I'm sure.
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arcarsenal : 5/23/2019 2:38 pm : link
Estrada is another guy who just seems to keep coming through with RISP. I feel like it's very rare I see Thairo have a poor AB - particularly with RISP.
This is great.  
Dave in Hoboken : 5/23/2019 2:40 pm : link
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Yep..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 5/23/2019 2:41 pm : link
We're grounded into two DPs today  
adamg : 5/23/2019 2:41 pm : link
Voit and DJ. Hate to see them bail out these Os pitchers
RE: RE: Didi is great  
Nine-Tails : 5/23/2019 2:44 pm : link
In comment 14453818 arcarsenal said:
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In comment 14453812 GruningsOnTheHill said:


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Gleyber Torres is even better.

And younger.

LeMahieu is a recent batting champ and gold glove 2B.



Which is why DJ will probably spend a good bit of time playing 3B while Torres plays 2B and Didi plays SS.

When Didi is healthy, he's playing every day.

All you have to do is watch Aaron Boone talk about him.

Urshela is going to be the odd man out, but he'll still get his share of action I'm sure.


Nope, Voit will dh, Lemahieu to first, and urshela to third. Maximizes defesne and hitting.
I completely forgot about Estrada  
bceagle05 : 5/23/2019 2:45 pm : link
after that whole, ya know, getting shot thing. He reminds me of a Martin Prado type who plays in the big leagues forever.
RE: Didi is great  
section125 : 5/23/2019 2:45 pm : link
In comment 14453812 GruningsOnTheHill said:
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Gleyber Torres is even better.

And younger.

LeMahieu is a recent batting champ and gold glove 2B.


Didi is a better SS. More dependable. Not a put down of Torres, Didi is simply better right now.

Scary how good this infield can be.
RE: RE: RE: Didi is great  
arcarsenal : 5/23/2019 2:47 pm : link
In comment 14453841 Nine-Tails said:
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In comment 14453818 arcarsenal said:


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In comment 14453812 GruningsOnTheHill said:


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Gleyber Torres is even better.

And younger.

LeMahieu is a recent batting champ and gold glove 2B.



Which is why DJ will probably spend a good bit of time playing 3B while Torres plays 2B and Didi plays SS.

When Didi is healthy, he's playing every day.

All you have to do is watch Aaron Boone talk about him.

Urshela is going to be the odd man out, but he'll still get his share of action I'm sure.



Nope, Voit will dh, Lemahieu to first, and urshela to third. Maximizes defesne and hitting.


Nope.

Stanton coming back is not going to allow us to DH Voit full time and LeMahieu has very little experience @ 1B even if he can play there.

Urshela will not continue to play every day when Didi is back.

The infield on most days is going to be Voit, Torres, Didi, DJ.
Holder pitching lights out  
adamg : 5/23/2019 2:47 pm : link
this team is so deep it's scary.
Holder is sneaky fast and is one of  
section125 : 5/23/2019 2:50 pm : link
the few pitchers that can throw the high fastball at or near the top of the zone repetitively.

Now what - Otto in the 8th and Britton to close?
RE: RE: RE: RE: Didi is great  
Nine-Tails : 5/23/2019 2:50 pm : link
In comment 14453852 arcarsenal said:
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In comment 14453841 Nine-Tails said:


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In comment 14453818 arcarsenal said:


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In comment 14453812 GruningsOnTheHill said:


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Gleyber Torres is even better.

And younger.

LeMahieu is a recent batting champ and gold glove 2B.



Which is why DJ will probably spend a good bit of time playing 3B while Torres plays 2B and Didi plays SS.

When Didi is healthy, he's playing every day.

All you have to do is watch Aaron Boone talk about him.

Urshela is going to be the odd man out, but he'll still get his share of action I'm sure.



Nope, Voit will dh, Lemahieu to first, and urshela to third. Maximizes defesne and hitting.



Nope.

Stanton coming back is not going to allow us to DH Voit full time and LeMahieu has very little experience @ 1B even if he can play there.

Urshela will not continue to play every day when Didi is back.

The infield on most days is going to be Voit, Torres, Didi, DJ.


Don't know when Stanton is coming back or Judge. Assuming Stanton comes back first and is healthy, he will be in right field. You don't take Urshela out the way he is playing.
Holder "holds."  
Dave in Hoboken : 5/23/2019 2:50 pm : link
:)

Seriously, perfect last name for a reliever.
LUUUUUUUUUUUUUKE!  
adamg : 5/23/2019 2:51 pm : link
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Anyway  
Nine-Tails : 5/23/2019 2:51 pm : link
I expect a good rotation where all of them get at bats through each week.
I love Voit's Sammy Sosa step  
adamg : 5/23/2019 2:52 pm : link
going the other way. lol.
In case you guys haven't noticed....  
Tesla : 5/23/2019 2:53 pm : link
Boone (or the front office) is big on resting guys. When Didi comes back there will be plenty of AB's for everyone. That's assuming everyone is healthy then. It will be a nice "problem" to have. Plus, it's likely that Urshela comes back down to earth at some point, much as I'll hate to see that as he's been such a great story.

Also, let's not forget about Tulo! Should be back any day now!!! :).
Estrada is putting an end to Wade's chances  
Greg from LI : 5/23/2019 2:54 pm : link
Funny thing is that they have very similar minor league numbers, but Wade has never looked remotely like a major league hitter while Estrada certainly has.
RE: I love Voit's Sammy Sosa step  
section125 : 5/23/2019 2:54 pm : link
In comment 14453872 adamg said:
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going the other way. lol.


When he is going well, Voit is mashing to right center. Good sign right there.
RE: In case you guys haven't noticed....  
section125 : 5/23/2019 2:56 pm : link
In comment 14453876 Tesla said:
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Boone (or the front office) is big on resting guys. When Didi comes back there will be plenty of AB's for everyone. That's assuming everyone is healthy then. It will be a nice "problem" to have. Plus, it's likely that Urshela comes back down to earth at some point, much as I'll hate to see that as he's been such a great story.


This. He can rotate about everyone with all getting a break often.
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arcarsenal : 5/23/2019 2:56 pm : link
Unless Frazier is sent down, he's going to be playing a bunch of RF too. Stanton can't clog up that spot every day when he's back.

You're going to have Hicks, Gardner, Frazier, and Stanton and only 3 OF spots to use them. So, unless Gardy is going to the bench on a near-permanent basis, Stanton is going to need to DH a bit. Frazier can't be up here and not play.

And if Judge gets back later in the year, then it becomes virtually impossible.

DJ will get games @ 1B - but I would bet he'll get more @ 3B and that Urshela will become a bench guy.

His bat is going to cool off anyway. He's not going to hit .336 all year.
I love Luke.  
Dave in Hoboken : 5/23/2019 2:56 pm : link
Such a likable guy and player.
RE: Estrada is putting an end to Wade's chances  
Tesla : 5/23/2019 2:57 pm : link
In comment 14453882 Greg from LI said:
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Funny thing is that they have very similar minor league numbers, but Wade has never looked remotely like a major league hitter while Estrada certainly has.


Yeah he really has. Wade had such a good season at AAA in 2017, thought for sure he'd be good enough to be a starter somewhere, but damn he really had a hard time hitting MLB pitching.

Estrada has looked better this year in MLB than Wade ever has.
It’s a good problem to have  
GruningsOnTheHill : 5/23/2019 2:58 pm : link
with all of these great infielders.

I just don’t see how you sit the best defensive 3B on the team—Urshela—who is batting .350 and seems to come through in the clutch every time.
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arcarsenal : 5/23/2019 2:58 pm : link
Wade sucks. Estrada definitely looks like a major league caliber player. Torreyes with a little more pop.
RE: It’s a good problem to have  
arcarsenal : 5/23/2019 2:59 pm : link
In comment 14453896 GruningsOnTheHill said:
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with all of these great infielders.

I just don’t see how you sit the best defensive 3B on the team—Urshela—who is batting .350 and seems to come through in the clutch every time.


I don't think LeMahieu is really any sort of downgrade from Urshela defensively.
Strike zone appears to  
section125 : 5/23/2019 3:00 pm : link
have shrunk a bit.
RE: .  
Nine-Tails : 5/23/2019 3:01 pm : link
In comment 14453891 arcarsenal said:
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Unless Frazier is sent down, he's going to be playing a bunch of RF too. Stanton can't clog up that spot every day when he's back.

You're going to have Hicks, Gardner, Frazier, and Stanton and only 3 OF spots to use them. So, unless Gardy is going to the bench on a near-permanent basis, Stanton is going to need to DH a bit. Frazier can't be up here and not play.

And if Judge gets back later in the year, then it becomes virtually impossible.

DJ will get games @ 1B - but I would bet he'll get more @ 3B and that Urshela will become a bench guy.

His bat is going to cool off anyway. He's not going to hit .336 all year.


When Jude comes back, I agree there will be no choice. But, when Stanton is back and didi, I think there will be healthy rotation, with Urshela getting major playing time. At the moment, Frazier is not playing over Gio and Stanton is a better defender than Frazier anyway.
Hoo boy  
Greg from LI : 5/23/2019 3:01 pm : link
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section  
adamg : 5/23/2019 3:02 pm : link
Boone needed to listen to you
Really felt like Boone was pushing his luck by leaving Holder in  
Greg from LI : 5/23/2019 3:03 pm : link
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1st mistake Boone has made.  
section125 : 5/23/2019 3:04 pm : link
Why did he wait after Holder lost the zone? He should have been pulled after the 2nd walk.
RE: RE: .  
arcarsenal : 5/23/2019 3:04 pm : link
In comment 14453905 Nine-Tails said:
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In comment 14453891 arcarsenal said:


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Unless Frazier is sent down, he's going to be playing a bunch of RF too. Stanton can't clog up that spot every day when he's back.

You're going to have Hicks, Gardner, Frazier, and Stanton and only 3 OF spots to use them. So, unless Gardy is going to the bench on a near-permanent basis, Stanton is going to need to DH a bit. Frazier can't be up here and not play.

And if Judge gets back later in the year, then it becomes virtually impossible.

DJ will get games @ 1B - but I would bet he'll get more @ 3B and that Urshela will become a bench guy.

His bat is going to cool off anyway. He's not going to hit .336 all year.



When Jude comes back, I agree there will be no choice. But, when Stanton is back and didi, I think there will be healthy rotation, with Urshela getting major playing time. At the moment, Frazier is not playing over Gio and Stanton is a better defender than Frazier anyway.


Frazier won't stay up here if he's not playing - if he's here, he's going to be in the lineup most days. And that's probably going to be a lot of RF since Gardner is basically all LF/CF.

There's going to be a lot of rotating - I just don't expect LeMahieu to become the primary 1B. That's not really his spot and it's actually sort of wasting his glove to put him there. Urshela isn't going to continue to play every day when Didi returns - it's just not feasible. He'll find his way into the lineup a few times a week, but I just don't see him continuing to be the every day 3B.
.  
arcarsenal : 5/23/2019 3:08 pm : link
Fuck.
Well men...  
GruningsOnTheHill : 5/23/2019 3:10 pm : link
we have ourselves a ballgame.
Sorry...  
Tesla : 5/23/2019 3:10 pm : link
but if we lose this game it's 100% on Boone. He's managing like it's a free game. No reason to push Holder two innings. Ottovino, Britton and Chapman should all be available today (plus resting a red hot Torres).

I realize we don't want to burn our best relievers out but none of these guys have been overused lately. This game counts as much as any other in the standings.
What was Boone thinking?  
section125 : 5/23/2019 3:10 pm : link
No shit. What a dumb move trying to save the pen. You win what you can when you can. Kahnle or Ottavino should have started the 8th.
RE: RE: RE: .  
Nine-Tails : 5/23/2019 3:11 pm : link
In comment 14453913 arcarsenal said:
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In comment 14453905 Nine-Tails said:


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In comment 14453891 arcarsenal said:


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Unless Frazier is sent down, he's going to be playing a bunch of RF too. Stanton can't clog up that spot every day when he's back.

You're going to have Hicks, Gardner, Frazier, and Stanton and only 3 OF spots to use them. So, unless Gardy is going to the bench on a near-permanent basis, Stanton is going to need to DH a bit. Frazier can't be up here and not play.

And if Judge gets back later in the year, then it becomes virtually impossible.

DJ will get games @ 1B - but I would bet he'll get more @ 3B and that Urshela will become a bench guy.

His bat is going to cool off anyway. He's not going to hit .336 all year.



When Jude comes back, I agree there will be no choice. But, when Stanton is back and didi, I think there will be healthy rotation, with Urshela getting major playing time. At the moment, Frazier is not playing over Gio and Stanton is a better defender than Frazier anyway.



Frazier won't stay up here if he's not playing - if he's here, he's going to be in the lineup most days. And that's probably going to be a lot of RF since Gardner is basically all LF/CF.

There's going to be a lot of rotating - I just don't expect LeMahieu to become the primary 1B. That's not really his spot and it's actually sort of wasting his glove to put him there. Urshela isn't going to continue to play every day when Didi returns - it's just not feasible. He'll find his way into the lineup a few times a week, but I just don't see him continuing to be the every day 3B.


Frazier's playing time has already dipped a lot and will even more so when Stanton returns, maybe even sent down. Plus Gio and didi are stud defenders, and Gleyber isn't going to dh. However, if Gio hitting declines, the decision is easy, but if he maintains his line, he will play most days.
RE: RE: RE: RE: .  
arcarsenal : 5/23/2019 3:13 pm : link
In comment 14453932 Nine-Tails said:
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In comment 14453913 arcarsenal said:


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In comment 14453905 Nine-Tails said:


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In comment 14453891 arcarsenal said:


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Unless Frazier is sent down, he's going to be playing a bunch of RF too. Stanton can't clog up that spot every day when he's back.

You're going to have Hicks, Gardner, Frazier, and Stanton and only 3 OF spots to use them. So, unless Gardy is going to the bench on a near-permanent basis, Stanton is going to need to DH a bit. Frazier can't be up here and not play.

And if Judge gets back later in the year, then it becomes virtually impossible.

DJ will get games @ 1B - but I would bet he'll get more @ 3B and that Urshela will become a bench guy.

His bat is going to cool off anyway. He's not going to hit .336 all year.



When Jude comes back, I agree there will be no choice. But, when Stanton is back and didi, I think there will be healthy rotation, with Urshela getting major playing time. At the moment, Frazier is not playing over Gio and Stanton is a better defender than Frazier anyway.



Frazier won't stay up here if he's not playing - if he's here, he's going to be in the lineup most days. And that's probably going to be a lot of RF since Gardner is basically all LF/CF.

There's going to be a lot of rotating - I just don't expect LeMahieu to become the primary 1B. That's not really his spot and it's actually sort of wasting his glove to put him there. Urshela isn't going to continue to play every day when Didi returns - it's just not feasible. He'll find his way into the lineup a few times a week, but I just don't see him continuing to be the every day 3B.



Frazier's playing time has already dipped a lot and will even more so when Stanton returns, maybe even sent down. Plus Gio and didi are stud defenders, and Gleyber isn't going to dh. However, if Gio hitting declines, the decision is easy, but if he maintains his line, he will play most days.


Where are you getting that Frazier's PT has "dipped a lot" ?

I think he's been out of the lineup once since he came off IL. He's played nearly every day since.
RE: What was Boone thinking?  
Tesla : 5/23/2019 3:13 pm : link
In comment 14453929 section125 said:
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No shit. What a dumb move trying to save the pen. You win what you can when you can. Kahnle or Ottavino should have started the 8th.


1000% yes. He's managing like he's fine to win 3 of 4 here. That's B.S. When you get a chance to win you need to take it. None of out top BP arms have been overused lately.

At the very minimum let Kahnle start the 8th inning.
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