0-16 is a real possibility......more likely we will go 4-12 .
Shumar will likely be fired for this. His problem is the Giants hierarchy will never let this guy make his own decisions
Same with Ben MacAdoo, he was very limited in applying discipline and who took the field
If you give a man a job, let him do his job- hands off
Only a fool will take the job as the next Giants HC, or someone desperate.
Tom Coughlin had the backbone and gravitas to be left alone. and the smarts to bag the season and replace Kurt Warner. I wanted Tom as our next HC but over the years he did not grow on me- the opposite.
He was a fixer but hard to like
We need a guy with pedigree like Andy Reid to come in here as HC/GM
Someone with a proven record of success to change the whole culture
Mr Mara please hire compitent football people and then sit back and enjoy the games. You totally embarrased yourself in the Eli benching fiasco
Andy Reid has won absolutely zero as a Head Coach unless you are satisfied making the playoffs and losing. Go back to rooting for the Jets or the Cowboys or whatever team you came from.
Tate, Shepard, and Barkley along with Rosas are the only Giants that would be sure starters for any other NFL team
Maybe Nate Solder but he's breaking down
Bellicheck, you have to admire his nose for when to let someone go
Amazing, for such a newbie, you are in the running for the worst poster on BBI. That is quite an accomplishment.
Thanks. I kind of take that a huge compliment, although I see a lot of posters agree with me, they stay low proflle and try not to incur the wrath of the herd
I see the herd as always running blind.......the prisoners of group thought
As one of the worst teams in the league last year a marginal improvement would be nice. We need a 5 year plan. The present HC may not last. He's a nice guy but as Leo Deroucher said
Nice guys finish last. Having said that I'm rooting for Pat. He reminds me of Pete Carroll in temperment. Pete had a long journey to success
he bombed with the Jets and Patriots before his huge success with Seattle
If Pat does go I'd love to lure Sean Payton back home. On a side note, why has no one ever given Jim Fassell another shot?
We need a no nonsense guy like Reid or Payton, who probably would never move here.
Gettleman will have a huge impact on the 5 yr re-building but its possible will never see the fruits of his labor. he and Daniel Jones are tied at the hip
We are coming off a suprising 5-11 season. a late season surge put us
at 5 wins
I can see us repeating 5-11, but 0-16 is not out of the question.
It all depends on when Eli is sitting down and if Barkley can hold up under a big workload. If Andre Brown is healed, I'd bring him back to spell Barkley
Giants improved from 3-13 to 5-11 last year. 7-9 is likely their 2019 record at this pace 9-7, 11-5 gives us a 3 year plan to get back to respectability
then agin MacAdoo came in and went straight to 11-5
I'm hoping for that kind of miracle revival, knowing full well this team could also tank. This is the mystery season, so much roster change
Only a fool would bet on where the Giants are headed. Cant wait to see the cowboys game....it will tell us a lot, win or lose
Tate, Shepard, and Barkley along with Rosas are the only Giants that would be sure starters for any other NFL team...
Kevin Zeitler, Will Hernandez, and Janoris Jenkins would start for lots of teams. With others like Tomlinson, Hill, Peppers, Baker, Lawrence, Engram, Ogletree, Carter, Bethea, etc. it depends on what you mean by "sure starters".
I suspect the main problem with this team will be depth, rather than front-line talent. Can't predict injuries, obviously.
Tate, Shepard, and Barkley along with Rosas are the only Giants that would be sure starters for any other NFL team
Maybe Nate Solder but he's breaking down
Bellicheck, you have to admire his nose for when to let someone go
Amazing, for such a newbie, you are in the running for the worst poster on BBI. That is quite an accomplishment.
Thanks. I kind of take that a huge compliment, although I see a lot of posters agree with me, they stay low proflle and try not to incur the wrath of the herd
I see the herd as always running blind.......the prisoners of group thought
As one of the worst teams in the league last year a marginal improvement would be nice. We need a 5 year plan. The present HC may not last. He's a nice guy but as Leo Deroucher said
Nice guys finish last. Having said that I'm rooting for Pat. He reminds me of Pete Carroll in temperment. Pete had a long journey to success
he bombed with the Jets and Patriots before his huge success with Seattle
If Pat does go I'd love to lure Sean Payton back home. On a side note, why has no one ever given Jim Fassell another shot?
We need a no nonsense guy like Reid or Payton, who probably would never move here.
Gettleman will have a huge impact on the 5 yr re-building but its possible will never see the fruits of his labor. he and Daniel Jones are tied at the hip
We are coming off a suprising 5-11 season. a late season surge put us
at 5 wins
I can see us repeating 5-11, but 0-16 is not out of the question.
It all depends on when Eli is sitting down and if Barkley can hold up under a big workload. If Andre Brown is healed, I'd bring him back to spell Barkley
Giants improved from 3-13 to 5-11 last year. 7-9 is likely their 2019 record at this pace 9-7, 11-5 gives us a 3 year plan to get back to respectability
then agin MacAdoo came in and went straight to 11-5
I'm hoping for that kind of miracle revival, knowing full well this team could also tank. This is the mystery season, so much roster change
Only a fool would bet on where the Giants are headed. Cant wait to see the cowboys game....it will tell us a lot, win or lose
What a bunch of horseshit. I'm sure you believe you are insightful... you are not. You clearly are indeed the worst poster on BBI... congratulations!
That's got to be trolling. Andre is 32 and hasn't played in nearly six years.
Looking back, Andre's Achilles tear in 2009 may have been the first hint of how the Reese/Coughlin era would go down the tubes. Long before the awful drafts of 2012-2016, Giants were dropping like flies - some before they got close to playing in a game.
Runner up - Carter. Reminds me of Corey Miller a little bit, maybe more pass rush twitch kinda different players but I think we can get a similar career out of carter. He looks like a pro in the making.
wager straight up Sheppard has a better season the Tate, given 1) this is the first year SS comes out from large shadow cast by OBJ and 2) Tate is right at the point, or at least close to, the downside of his career, and SS is still ascending.
It's far more likely that Tate will setting the table for SS, than OBJ was ever gonna a set the table for anyone besides himself.
New additions
Zietler
Peppers
Remmers
Darkhorse RB Jones
Just getting two Veterans on the offensive line makes me
a lot more comfortable to start the season .
Peppers might not be Collins in the run game but an upgrade
in the passing game .
I like bringing Jones in to help wear down defenses
while spelling SB ...
Love the Lawrence pick he is a monster
Baker was my favorite CB coming out
and I expect Carter to really step it up in the
pass rush and make plays with his length .
Tate, Shepard, and Barkley along with Rosas are the only Giants that would be sure starters for any other NFL team
Maybe Nate Solder but he's breaking down
Bellicheck, you have to admire his nose for when to let someone go
Solder, Zeitler, Engram, Hernandez are all “starter caliber” (at least) ... and suggesting no player on defense would start anywhere else is beyond absurd
Shumar will likely be fired for this. His problem is the Giants hierarchy will never let this guy make his own decisions
Same with Ben MacAdoo, he was very limited in applying discipline and who took the field
If you give a man a job, let him do his job- hands off
Only a fool will take the job as the next Giants HC, or someone desperate.
Tom Coughlin had the backbone and gravitas to be left alone. and the smarts to bag the season and replace Kurt Warner. I wanted Tom as our next HC but over the years he did not grow on me- the opposite.
He was a fixer but hard to like
We need a guy with pedigree like Andy Reid to come in here as HC/GM
Someone with a proven record of success to change the whole culture
Mr Mara please hire compitent football people and then sit back and enjoy the games. You totally embarrased yourself in the Eli benching fiasco
Andy Reid has won absolutely zero as a Head Coach unless you are satisfied making the playoffs and losing. Go back to rooting for the Jets or the Cowboys or whatever team you came from.
Lawrence
Peppers
Tate, Shepard, and Barkley along with Rosas are the only Giants that would be sure starters for any other NFL team
Maybe Nate Solder but he's breaking down
Bellicheck, you have to admire his nose for when to let someone go
Amazing, for such a newbie, you are in the running for the worst poster on BBI. That is quite an accomplishment.
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As far as I can see-
Tate, Shepard, and Barkley along with Rosas are the only Giants that would be sure starters for any other NFL team
Maybe Nate Solder but he's breaking down
Bellicheck, you have to admire his nose for when to let someone go
Amazing, for such a newbie, you are in the running for the worst poster on BBI. That is quite an accomplishment.
Thanks. I kind of take that a huge compliment, although I see a lot of posters agree with me, they stay low proflle and try not to incur the wrath of the herd
I see the herd as always running blind.......the prisoners of group thought
As one of the worst teams in the league last year a marginal improvement would be nice. We need a 5 year plan. The present HC may not last. He's a nice guy but as Leo Deroucher said
Nice guys finish last. Having said that I'm rooting for Pat. He reminds me of Pete Carroll in temperment. Pete had a long journey to success
he bombed with the Jets and Patriots before his huge success with Seattle
If Pat does go I'd love to lure Sean Payton back home. On a side note, why has no one ever given Jim Fassell another shot?
We need a no nonsense guy like Reid or Payton, who probably would never move here.
Gettleman will have a huge impact on the 5 yr re-building but its possible will never see the fruits of his labor. he and Daniel Jones are tied at the hip
We are coming off a suprising 5-11 season. a late season surge put us
at 5 wins
I can see us repeating 5-11, but 0-16 is not out of the question.
It all depends on when Eli is sitting down and if Barkley can hold up under a big workload. If Andre Brown is healed, I'd bring him back to spell Barkley
Giants improved from 3-13 to 5-11 last year. 7-9 is likely their 2019 record at this pace 9-7, 11-5 gives us a 3 year plan to get back to respectability
then agin MacAdoo came in and went straight to 11-5
I'm hoping for that kind of miracle revival, knowing full well this team could also tank. This is the mystery season, so much roster change
Only a fool would bet on where the Giants are headed. Cant wait to see the cowboys game....it will tell us a lot, win or lose
Carter
X-man
Peppers
Barkley
Manning
Goodson
Lawrence
Tate, Shepard, and Barkley along with Rosas are the only Giants that would be sure starters for any other NFL team...
Kevin Zeitler, Will Hernandez, and Janoris Jenkins would start for lots of teams. With others like Tomlinson, Hill, Peppers, Baker, Lawrence, Engram, Ogletree, Carter, Bethea, etc. it depends on what you mean by "sure starters".
I suspect the main problem with this team will be depth, rather than front-line talent. Can't predict injuries, obviously.
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As far as I can see-
Tate, Shepard, and Barkley along with Rosas are the only Giants that would be sure starters for any other NFL team
Maybe Nate Solder but he's breaking down
Bellicheck, you have to admire his nose for when to let someone go
Amazing, for such a newbie, you are in the running for the worst poster on BBI. That is quite an accomplishment.
Thanks. I kind of take that a huge compliment, although I see a lot of posters agree with me, they stay low proflle and try not to incur the wrath of the herd
I see the herd as always running blind.......the prisoners of group thought
As one of the worst teams in the league last year a marginal improvement would be nice. We need a 5 year plan. The present HC may not last. He's a nice guy but as Leo Deroucher said
Nice guys finish last. Having said that I'm rooting for Pat. He reminds me of Pete Carroll in temperment. Pete had a long journey to success
he bombed with the Jets and Patriots before his huge success with Seattle
If Pat does go I'd love to lure Sean Payton back home. On a side note, why has no one ever given Jim Fassell another shot?
We need a no nonsense guy like Reid or Payton, who probably would never move here.
Gettleman will have a huge impact on the 5 yr re-building but its possible will never see the fruits of his labor. he and Daniel Jones are tied at the hip
We are coming off a suprising 5-11 season. a late season surge put us
at 5 wins
I can see us repeating 5-11, but 0-16 is not out of the question.
It all depends on when Eli is sitting down and if Barkley can hold up under a big workload. If Andre Brown is healed, I'd bring him back to spell Barkley
Giants improved from 3-13 to 5-11 last year. 7-9 is likely their 2019 record at this pace 9-7, 11-5 gives us a 3 year plan to get back to respectability
then agin MacAdoo came in and went straight to 11-5
I'm hoping for that kind of miracle revival, knowing full well this team could also tank. This is the mystery season, so much roster change
Only a fool would bet on where the Giants are headed. Cant wait to see the cowboys game....it will tell us a lot, win or lose
What a bunch of horseshit. I'm sure you believe you are insightful... you are not. You clearly are indeed the worst poster on BBI... congratulations!
Looking back, Andre's Achilles tear in 2009 may have been the first hint of how the Reese/Coughlin era would go down the tubes. Long before the awful drafts of 2012-2016, Giants were dropping like flies - some before they got close to playing in a game.
Runner up - Carter. Reminds me of Corey Miller a little bit, maybe more pass rush twitch kinda different players but I think we can get a similar career out of carter. He looks like a pro in the making.
You forgot Jonas Seawright!!
It's far more likely that Tate will setting the table for SS, than OBJ was ever gonna a set the table for anyone besides himself.
Zietler
Peppers
Remmers
Darkhorse RB Jones
Just getting two Veterans on the offensive line makes me
a lot more comfortable to start the season .
Peppers might not be Collins in the run game but an upgrade
in the passing game .
I like bringing Jones in to help wear down defenses
while spelling SB ...
Love the Lawrence pick he is a monster
Baker was my favorite CB coming out
and I expect Carter to really step it up in the
pass rush and make plays with his length .
Tate, Shepard, and Barkley along with Rosas are the only Giants that would be sure starters for any other NFL team
Maybe Nate Solder but he's breaking down
Bellicheck, you have to admire his nose for when to let someone go
Solder, Zeitler, Engram, Hernandez are all “starter caliber” (at least) ... and suggesting no player on defense would start anywhere else is beyond absurd
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You forgot Jonas Seawright!!
I was saving him for the List Your Three All-Time Favorite Giants thread.