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The return of the middle screen

Britt in VA : 5/24/2019 3:48 pm
I was watching Saquon's season highlights, and I noticed we were back to running middle screens pretty effectively, and I saw a handful of the scattered throughout the clip. It's been a while since we had run them, if at all since Gilbride left. They used to be prominently featured in the Gilbride/Coughlin offense, first with Tiki, then with Bradshaw and Jacobs.

It was a really successful play for us and I'm glad to see it back in the playbook. And yes, Eli can throw the middle screen effectively.

Second play in highlight clip - ( New Window )
Just casually watching Shurmur's teams  
BlueLou'sBack : 5/24/2019 4:20 pm : link
I believe screen passes of all types are employed prolifically.

And we should have an OL that can block well for them.
Eli h8ers like to blame Eli  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 5/24/2019 4:29 pm : link
And point out he's bad at short passes, when he has at certain points been very good at it. I think there's an art to when to call a screen, depending on what the D is doing, and that falls on the coaches.
Nope. As an Eli defender I must acknowledge that he’s generally awful  
yatqb : 5/24/2019 4:33 pm : link
at throwing or setting up screens.
Eli throwing screen passes  
CJ in AZ : 5/24/2019 8:50 pm : link
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Nope. As an Eli defender I must acknowledge that he’s generally awful
yatqb : 4:33 pm : link : reply
at throwing or setting up screens.


+1
Not an expert on this stuff, maybe BBI experts can help me here.  
81_Great_Dane : 5/24/2019 11:48 pm : link
I remember how effective Dallas was running screens in the Roger Staubach era. I thought at the time that part of the reason why the play worked so well was that the D never seemed to get a good shot at Staubach, and was always frustrated. (Well, the Giants D, anyway). So when the pass rushers got some penetration, they'd be like "FINALLY" and sprint after him, and then boom, screen pass. Which fed more frustration.

Giants-Cowboys games in the 70s were very frustrating.
Baldinger's break down  
short lease : 5/25/2019 3:57 am : link

First 8 games?

There are guys who ran with more power and elusiveness ... and guys who were probably faster. There are guys who had great agility ... guys who could stop, spin, and start on a dime. There are other guys who had great vision and see holes and lanes that are not even there ... at the time they are running towards that direction.

But, from what I have seen so far - nobody that I ever watched has ever been great in every category. Nobody has ever had the combination of all these gifts/skills like SB.

Over zealous hyperbole from a NY Giants fan? .... maybe.

Some highlights - - ( New Window )
Forgot to mention Balance ....  
short lease : 5/25/2019 3:59 am : link

Did I mention Balance?
RE: Eli h8ers like to blame Eli  
GothamGiants : 5/25/2019 9:15 am : link
In comment 14455150 Coach Red Beaulieu said:
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And point out he's bad at short passes, when he has at certain points been very good at it. I think there's an art to when to call a screen, depending on what the D is doing, and that falls on the coaches.

“H8ers” - ( New Window )
RE: Baldinger's break down  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 5/25/2019 10:41 am : link
In comment 14455352 short lease said:
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First 8 games?

There are guys who ran with more power and elusiveness ... and guys who were probably faster. There are guys who had great agility ... guys who could stop, spin, and start on a dime. There are other guys who had great vision and see holes and lanes that are not even there ... at the time they are running towards that direction.

But, from what I have seen so far - nobody that I ever watched has ever been great in every category. Nobody has ever had the combination of all these gifts/skills like SB.

Over zealous hyperbole from a NY Giants fan? .... maybe. Some highlights - - ( New Window )

My scouting report from last year was dead on.

"Saquon Barkley - RB Penn State
The world's top scienticians from the future bio engineered a RB and sent him back in time to play for the Giants for reasons."

Pretty damn prophetic.
Any conversation of Eli Manning will never be fruitful  
Ten Ton Hammer : 5/25/2019 11:04 am : link
when it's still thought that an obvious weakness in his skillset that's been so for 15 years is just "haters" talking.

RE: Any conversation of Eli Manning will never be fruitful  
GothamGiants : 5/25/2019 12:06 pm : link
In comment 14455442 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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when it's still thought that an obvious weakness in his skillset that's been so for 15 years is just "haters" talking.


It’s the “coaches fault” apparently.
“Eli’s ageless and I’m sure he’ll improve and play forever.” - 50% BBI
RE: RE: Baldinger's break down  
short lease : 5/25/2019 12:33 pm : link
In comment 14455429 Coach Red Beaulieu said:
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In comment 14455352 short lease said:


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First 8 games?

There are guys who ran with more power and elusiveness ... and guys who were probably faster. There are guys who had great agility ... guys who could stop, spin, and start on a dime. There are other guys who had great vision and see holes and lanes that are not even there ... at the time they are running towards that direction.

But, from what I have seen so far - nobody that I ever watched has ever been great in every category. Nobody has ever had the combination of all these gifts/skills like SB.

Over zealous hyperbole from a NY Giants fan? .... maybe. Some highlights - - ( New Window )


My scouting report from last year was dead on.

"Saquon Barkley - RB Penn State
The world's top scienticians from the future bio engineered a RB and sent him back in time to play for the Giants for reasons."

Pretty damn prophetic.


I knew it.... he is related to the terminator. Do you think he shape shifts? Maybe that is why they cannot tackle him? for 2 seconds - he wears the opposing team's uniform?
Hope they use him like we used TIKI.  
TMS : 5/25/2019 4:32 pm : link
in his great five year run.
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