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Is Gettleman doing a good job?

gidiefor : Mod : 5/25/2019 7:52 pm
Some of you think he's crazy. He's wasted team resources and made a lot of mistakes. His history shows he's not great.

Others believe. He cuts bait quickly and he's got an eye for talent. His last two drafts have been amazing - he's knows what a pro looks like and he's got an eye for linemen. His history says he's got what it takes.

Some are waiting to see what develops.

No doubt that he's hated by the press.

Where do you sit? Make a statement:
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RE: Is Gettleman doing a job?  
Jersey55 : 5/27/2019 5:28 pm : link
In comment 14456301 Rick5 said:
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It's too early to tell. One full season isn't enough time.

Jerry Reese had this team so screwed up that it will take more than one or even 2 seasons to fix it, IMO Gettleman is doing fine...
The jury is out  
dpinzow : 5/27/2019 5:29 pm : link
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RE: RickinCharlotte, great post.  
RickInCharlotte : 5/27/2019 6:35 pm : link
Thanks!
RE: RE: Is Gettleman doing a job?  
Jay on the Island : 5/27/2019 7:15 pm : link
In comment 14456705 Jersey55 said:
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In comment 14456301 Rick5 said:


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It's too early to tell. One full season isn't enough time.


Jerry Reese had this team so screwed up that it will take more than one or even 2 seasons to fix it, IMO Gettleman is doing fine...

I still think this team needs one more year. 2020 will be the season where I think they are ready to take that step to become a playoff contender. It's unfair to expect Gettleman to fix that mess with just two offseasons and little cap flexibility.
update  
gidiefor : Mod : 5/27/2019 9:37 pm : link
48 (59.3%) Doing a Good Job
17 (21%) Wait and See
5 (6.2%) Mixed
9 (11.1%) Not Doing a Good Job
2 (2.5%) Did not express an opinion
in my opinion, DG is tearing this team down and  
CardinalX : 5/28/2019 4:46 am : link
building it in the image he envisions. HIS team. keeping Eli doesn't really support that idea. but it could be the one major piece that he knows there would be a riot if he cut ties prematurely and he knows he's almost out the door anyways, so just rid the team of the rest of the non-DG type players and Eli will ride on on his own.

that being said, he believe in the trenches. as do I. and he seems to be addressing that, and for that I applaud him. his drafts seem to be fairly decent as well. I love last year's draft and word on this year's draft is predominantly positive.

I'm going to give my support to DG and say I have much more faith in him than I did with JR. especially towards the middle/end of his GM career. we'll see though. but I'd give him a solid B so far the minus or plus will shape itself this season with how we've progressed and what we end up doing with Eli.
He is doing an okay job. A good smattering of positive  
Jimmy Googs : 5/28/2019 6:00 am : link
moves with some questionable ones rolled in there too. His big free agent signings in each of the past two years (Solder snd Tate) are examples of what not to do imv.

It’s all about the draft decisions on Barkley and Jones versus the roads not taken...

bc  
JonC : 5/28/2019 8:16 am : link
Not really. It's an odd signing given the cap hits, his age and mercurial performances. If they think he's a sound veteran to learn from, then now we've got a handful of them, and we'll have to live with the cap crunch as they help train the puppies, in DG's words. But, he's really not a #1 vertical stretch the field threat meant to replace OBJ.
I do think...  
FatMan in Charlotte : 5/28/2019 9:04 am : link
Gettleman is still perceived and judged by how he was hired in a large part.

If he had come from the Pats or even was Dorsey from outside the organization, I think the take would be drastically different. People would say he's been cleaning out the previous regime's mess and shoring up positions with mid-tier FA's where possible while having solid drafts.

But there is still a fairly large contingent that has conspiratorial thoughts that Gettleman was hired as a yes man. That he was recommended by Accorsi to give Eli a final ride into the sunset. That he was chosen without a real process. And so, they look at him as an extension of Mara, or even Reese and really don't judge him objectively.

If they did, they'd have looked at the Omameah and Stewart signings as mistakes that were not costly and easily moved off from. That Solder and Ogletree were here to have something to build around (and they also wouldn't exaggerate their level of play as terrible when it is average). That missing out on Darnold, Rosen or Allen isn't the end of the world, and may not be a mistake at all.

But strangely, those posters seem to only measure Gettleman on the negative points. When talking about the drafts, they say that Barkley didn't win us any games and his selection alone ruined the draft. They mock the way he addresses the press and talks about there not being a plan as a factual statement. We all wanted the stink and the attitude of the past few years replaced. It happened and people still look at it as a negative.

Gettleman's complete body of professional work is pretty damn impressive, yet most here act like he's a one-year GM with a record of 5-11 who sucks at signing FA's, who makes bad trades and who missed out on the next Elway, Marino and Rodgers.

I continually feel like we are being trolled. Not because of the negativity, but because drums get beaten over and over again with nonsensical takes. Not to mention strings of posts by a guy who uses random capital letters, spells like a 2-year old and who can barely form a fucking sentence that's legible.
Good post, Fats  
JonC : 5/28/2019 9:19 am : link
There's definitely a considerable lack of intellectual honesty and player/prospect evaluation floating around since the SB draft pick.
RE: okay  
Greg from LI : 5/28/2019 9:26 am : link
In comment 14456680 gidiefor said:
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of 78 posters the following sentiment was expressed:

47 (60.3%) Doing a Good Job
15 (19.2%) Wait and See
5 (6.4%) Mixed
9 (11.5%) Not Doing a Good Job
2 (2.6%) Did not express an opinion


If these are the options, I'd say mixed.
RE: I do think...  
Bill L : 5/28/2019 9:48 am : link
In comment 14456969 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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Gettleman is still perceived and judged by how he was hired in a large part.

If he had come from the Pats or even was Dorsey from outside the organization, I think the take would be drastically different. People would say he's been cleaning out the previous regime's mess and shoring up positions with mid-tier FA's where possible while having solid drafts.

But there is still a fairly large contingent that has conspiratorial thoughts that Gettleman was hired as a yes man. That he was recommended by Accorsi to give Eli a final ride into the sunset. That he was chosen without a real process. And so, they look at him as an extension of Mara, or even Reese and really don't judge him objectively.

If they did, they'd have looked at the Omameah and Stewart signings as mistakes that were not costly and easily moved off from. That Solder and Ogletree were here to have something to build around (and they also wouldn't exaggerate their level of play as terrible when it is average). That missing out on Darnold, Rosen or Allen isn't the end of the world, and may not be a mistake at all.

But strangely, those posters seem to only measure Gettleman on the negative points. When talking about the drafts, they say that Barkley didn't win us any games and his selection alone ruined the draft. They mock the way he addresses the press and talks about there not being a plan as a factual statement. We all wanted the stink and the attitude of the past few years replaced. It happened and people still look at it as a negative.

Gettleman's complete body of professional work is pretty damn impressive, yet most here act like he's a one-year GM with a record of 5-11 who sucks at signing FA's, who makes bad trades and who missed out on the next Elway, Marino and Rodgers.

I continually feel like we are being trolled. Not because of the negativity, but because drums get beaten over and over again with nonsensical takes. Not to mention strings of posts by a guy who uses random capital letters, spells like a 2-year old and who can barely form a fucking sentence that's legible.


So, you're saying that bw has a fan club?
I Think Its Too Early  
lax counsel : 5/28/2019 10:58 am : link
To really get a sense of how he's doing. Hes made some good moves, some questionable, and some awful - similar to most GMs.

Clearly, I think he has a style of play in mind which is control the line of scrimmage and run the football. Whether that style of play can consistently win in the NFL will be determined in the coming years.

Unfortunately, I think DG's future/legacy will largely be determined by Daniel Jones. If he turns out to be what some of his proponents claim, DG will look great. If he is awful or just a game manager, I think DG will be looked upon very differently, especially if the guy in green turns out to be something special (like it or not, that specter will be held over the franchise).
He'll be judged on the product on the field  
Ten Ton Hammer : 5/28/2019 3:10 pm : link
and to date they haven't been good. No one should expect fans to be content about it thus far.

Say what you want about the state of the team when he was hired, but 3-4 years is when you start looking at progression or lack thereof from a GM's tenure. If we want to bandwagon the idea of 'no players on schalarship', management should be held to the same standard too.

Well, he's only had one season  
Bill L : 5/28/2019 3:28 pm : link
and it was an improved record. SO the slope is positive.
This just isn't correct relative to there being a large contingent  
Jimmy Googs : 5/28/2019 3:55 pm : link
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But there is still a fairly large contingent that has conspiratorial thoughts that Gettleman was hired as a yes man.


Maybe moreso a contingent that posts fairly often. But nevertheless...what difference does it make? Is this conspiracy contingent "recruiting" more posters faster than you can convince them otherwise?

Gettleman's complete body of professional work will only be considered pretty damn impressive when it starts translating to a better product and more wins on the field. Of course, he should clearly be given time to get there, and it appears as if that is indeed happening...
Now 86  
gidiefor : Mod : 5/28/2019 4:09 pm : link
but I swear that someone has hijacked Jimmy Googs' account

50 (58.1%) Doing a Good Job
19 (22.1%) Wait and See
5 (5.8%) Mixed
9 (10.5%) Not Doing a Good Job
3 (3.5%) Did not express an opinion
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