NFT: Best All Season Tires?

Low noise and smooth ride.
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for best all around All-Seasons for passenger vehicles. Being in the Northeast, we have to account for less than ideal traction situations. Short of getting a dedicated snow tire, I suggest the Continental TrueContact if you can find them. Or the ProContact is good too. I know Pep Boys usually carries that one.
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In comment 14455859 RomanWH said:

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for best all around All-Seasons for passenger vehicles. Being in the Northeast, we have to account for less than ideal traction situations. Short of getting a dedicated snow tire, I suggest the Continental TrueContact if you can find them. Or the ProContact is good too. I know Pep Boys usually carries that one. TrueContact in your size - ( New Window )

The last tires I purchased for my last car were continental and they were very good. I was thinking about those this time as well.

You may want to look at all-weather rather than all-season.

Cooper tires.

1000 for all 4 not including some mail in rebates.

Seem nice are were highly rated

245/60/18

I had Yokohama that came with my van but Friday one of the tires no longer wanted to be a tire. I will forever be against Yokohama
No tire should ever do what they did.

Have you ever rotated your tires?

Ever run with low pressure for long periods of time?

If driving on a straight road take your hands off the steering wheel. Does it stay straight?

Then same thing but GENTLY apply the breaks.
Does it stay straight.


Obviously you dont want be around anyone when trying this.

Most reputable placed will give a free diagnosis on this and provide you the reading of before and after

In comment 14455861 Jay in Toronto said:

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You may want to look at all-weather rather than all-season.

That is what I think the Michelin cross climate are—that is why I was leaning that way but not many places carry them in stock. I was considering tire rack which I have never used.

I have them on an Acura MDX and they are basically a snow tire without the negatives of a snow tire (not loud, don’t have to remove them in the summer, 60k mileage warranty).

All brands mentioned on this thread are very good. Just don’t go to Mavis please :)

Suggest you go onto a website like Discount Tire, put in the parameters you are looking for (cost, rating, mileage, speed rating, etc.) and choose from there.

I have had the General Altimax on a couple of vehicles and I think they are about the best tires I ever owned. Good in snow ride well and are quiet...

but get true snow tires for the winter. if you keep the car for the lifetime of both sets of tires it actually doesn't cost you any extra money to do this (except for the cost of cheap rims that you can keep the snow tires on).

that way you'll have great traction in winter. snow tires are better than all season tires on ice and snow.

buy tires mounted on cheap rims from Tire Rack and have them shipped directly to your dealer for mounting. Toyota dealers will do this.

Was the best tire I ever bought. Very smooth and quiet ride. Did well in rain, ok in snow. They now have the Avid Envigor which may provide better all season performance.

In comment 14455929 markky said:

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but get true snow tires for the winter. if you keep the car for the lifetime of both sets of tires it actually doesn't cost you any extra money to do this (except for the cost of cheap rims that you can keep the snow tires on). that way you'll have great traction in winter. snow tires are better than all season tires on ice and snow. buy tires mounted on cheap rims from Tire Rack and have them shipped directly to your dealer for mounting. Toyota dealers will do this.

Thanks for the tire rack info. I have done the snow tire/ summer tire switch but the winters have been so inconsistent lately with a lot more rain than snow, I have switched to just wanting one tire really good on wet and can handle snow well.

In comment 14455933 Bill in Del said:

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Was the best tire I ever bought. Very smooth and quiet ride. Did well in rain, ok in snow. They now have the Avid Envigor which may provide better all season performance.

I had 4 of them on my van up until yesterday.

Had to replace them before 30k because they are sht. One literally exploded on 287 Friday. All the tread pealed off the tire. I inspected the other 3 and they seemed to be on the verge as well.

Goodyear dealership was so shocked at the state of them they actually took pictures. "We have never seen anything like this"

Up until that happened I liked them. Seemed quite, ok traction, didnt show much ware. But now I wouldn't put my family in a car that I knew had them on it.

So here is a link to the tire
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In comment 14455999 kes722 said:

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In comment 14455933 Bill in Del said: Quote: Was the best tire I ever bought. Very smooth and quiet ride. Did well in rain, ok in snow. They now have the Avid Envigor which may provide better all season performance. I had 4 of them on my van up until yesterday. Had to replace them before 30k because they are sht. One literally exploded on 287 Friday. All the tread pealed off the tire. I inspected the other 3 and they seemed to be on the verge as well. Goodyear dealership was so shocked at the state of them they actually took pictures. "We have never seen anything like this" Up until that happened I liked them. Seemed quite, ok traction, didnt show much ware. But now I wouldn't put my family in a car that I knew had them on it.

Just goes to show a tire can be great for one person and lousy for another. Online tire site reviews have similar examples for all tire brands. I had over 30K miles on Yokahama's when when I sold the car, a 96 Olds cutlass supreme and still had plenty of tread and in good condition.

Funny you should mention you were at a Goodyear dealer having them inspected and I'm guessing to buy new tires. I've had Goodyear tires and never had a good experience with them, they just don't seem to last. The latest being a set of Goodyear Fortera on my Ford Explorer that were just about bald and had to replace at 28K miles. So Goodyear is a tire I'll never buy again. See what I mean.

on the basis of the set that was on my second Explorer. Poor traction in snow. Had much more satisfaction from Goodyear and some little known brands. But then I tow trailers and look for traction over other factors.

It really depends on what you want from a tire. You can't have the best of everything. If you want really good traction, you have to accept shorter life and probably more road noise. Ditto for maximizing any particular performance parameter you choose. Since you didn't specify anything, it's impossible to give you a real recommendation.

But no matter what you buy, an alignment is mandatory to maximize the life of the tires.

I also had a bad experience with Yokohama Avids -- and refuse to buy them again. I usually buy Dunlops or Pirellis for my motorcycle; typically I go with Michelins for the cars. But sometimes price is a factor. During my last trip in to get tires, I was convinced into trying a set of Pirelli Cinturato Stradas on my VW EOS, which were on sale at that time. For four tires, it ended up almost $300 less than the comparably-rated Michelins. I'm about 25k miles into them and I can't say a bad thing about them. Smooth, sure-footed, quiet, and they haven't worn any differently than my Michelins.

In comment 14456016 kes722 said:

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Wow, I hope no one got hurt. But I see what you mean. At the risk of stating the obvious I'm sure you maintained your tire pressures and inspected them on occasion?

In comment 14456016 kes722 said:

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You’re capitalizing the i in the leading tag - it needs to be img, not Img.

In comment 14456020 Red Dog said:

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on the basis of the set that was on my second Explorer. Poor traction in snow. Had much more satisfaction from Goodyear and some little known brands. But then I tow trailers and look for traction over other factors. It really depends on what you want from a tire. You can't have the best of everything. If you want really good traction, you have to accept shorter life and probably more road noise. Ditto for maximizing any particular performance parameter you choose. Since you didn't specify anything, it's impossible to give you a real recommendation. But no matter what you buy, an alignment is mandatory to maximize the life of the tires.

I would say I am trying to get close to the best of everything. Best one tire that is good in rain, ice and snow. According to consumer reports that could be the Michelin cross climate—based on their tests it rates very good in every single category and has decent tread life and a little more noise. I can deal with both especially with the quiet Prius .

I know consumer reports isn’t always right but their tests are extensive. This tire just sounds too good to be true and I don’t mind the price for the safety.

In comment 14456035 Jim in Fairfax said:

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In comment 14456016 kes722 said: Quote: [Img]https://i.postimg.cc/CMqGcmJr/20190524-193302.jpg[/img] [Img]https://i.postimg.cc/Gpgfxqzh/20190524-155751.jpg[/img] Other issue - ( New Window ) You’re capitalizing the i in the leading tag - it needs to be img, not Img.

Thanks... didnt notice that

In comment 14456054 kes722 said:

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Whoa!!!!!

You should be able to get away with marshmallows no? 😜

I repeat - it is absolutely impossible to get the best in every performance category because there are so many variables to juggle - dry traction, wet traction, mud & snow traction (very different than wet traction), tread noise, tire life, resistance to road hazards, top speed capability, ride quality, noise, price, and so on.

But you can get a tire that does fairly well at most things and that sounds like what you are looking at. These are typically pretty pricey.

The Michelins on my wife's Acura seem to be very good tires, if quite pricey, and I would have no qualms about using Michelins myself, but they don't seem to make the kind of tire that I am looking for to run on my truck. However, the Acura's stock tires were really effing worthless in the snow, so she has resorted to running snow tires in the winter. The difference is incredible. But that's the kind of thing I expect from Honda anyway.

Keep doing your homework and you should do OK. CR has their opinions. Sometimes they are right on, sometimes they miss by a mile, but that is true of all reviews of anything. It is most important to find out where the reviewers are coming from - what really matters to them - and compare it to what matters to you.

CR seems to be more focused on price, value (not the same thing), longevity, and that sort of thing, not performance. And by performance, I mean more than acceleration, top speed, and braking. I also mean traction under various conditions, resistance to hazards, and ride quality.

Great wear and handling, and very quiet.

make the best tires for regular road cars. Goodyear makes good tires, but they are noisier.

have looked at several auto trade sites, consumer reports, tire wholesale/retail sites, etc, and have focused on customer reviews and not manufacturer claims

there is a new moniker going around now called "all weather tires", instead of "all season tires".."all season" tires generally arent rated very highly for winter conditions so manufacturers have begun to develop "all weather tires", that have greater winter handling attributes while remaining effective for summer use

up until the last few years, I drove Buick LeSabres and Park Avenues with Dunlop All Season tires that handled very well in central NY winters and gave great rides in the summertime

the last 6 years I have been driving AWD Nissan Rogues with OEM Dunlop and my latest, a 2019, has OEM Bridestone Ecopias..Neither have been very good in the winter

I think a lot depends on the vehicle you have but, in summary, the best rated "all weather" tires I have found so far, according to customer reviews, are either the Goodyear Assurance Weatherready or the Nokia WR-G3..(or WR G4)

and yes, alignment, (while not always necessary), is always a good investment when installing new tires..your going to spend good money on 4 new tires, regardless of what you buy..another $100, more or less, to protect your investment is not a bad idea

use a reputable tire store franchise, or a dealer, and dont get sucked in to services you dont need, like new suspension parts, or added costs for nitrogen filled tires, or the more expensive "road force balance" thats only necessary if their is a problem with the standard tire balance procedures

...but I've run three sets of General Altimax, including on a Prius, and have been quite happy. Grip is good, snow traction is noticeably better than it was with the Bridgestone Ecopias we used on the Prius, and wear is excellent. MPG was a little less compared to the Ecopias, but not substantially so.

In comment 14456413 Seventh Spiel said:

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...but I've run three sets of General Altimax, including on a Prius, and have been quite happy. Grip is good, snow traction is noticeably better than it was with the Bridgestone Ecopias we used on the Prius, and wear is excellent. MPG was a little less compared to the Ecopias, but not substantially so.

Good to know. Those were my other leading choice. The ecopias were poor and only lasted 30000.

has always said the success of a brand depends on the car and size of tire. I have a Mazda CX5 and I put on a lot of mileage. My last set were Pirelli Scorpion Verde. They were excellent tires. They were sold out so I now have the Michelin Defender's (since March) and they are great. Really quiet and have been excellent in the heavy spring rain we have had.

In comment 14456156 yatqb said:

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Great wear and handling, and very quiet.

I just put these on our RAV4 two weeks ago.