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Former NY Giant safety Tyler Sash died in 2016, CTE-related

Adam G in Big D : 5/26/2019 12:56 pm
I don't recall seeing this on BBI, forgive if it has already been covered.
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yes --  
gidiefor : Mod : 5/26/2019 1:07 pm : link
this was covered when it happened and when this article was written
here's the same thread from 3 years ago  
gidiefor : Mod : 5/26/2019 1:10 pm : link
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He actually died in 2015.  
Ryan in Albany : 5/26/2019 1:13 pm : link
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yes true -- but the NYT CTE article by Pennington  
gidiefor : Mod : 5/26/2019 1:15 pm : link
came out in 2016
waaay  
spike : 5/26/2019 3:36 pm : link
German
I actually did not know this  
DC Gmen Fan : 5/26/2019 3:44 pm : link
Missed it when it happened so thanks for posting
I also never knew this.  
Leg of Theismann : 5/26/2019 3:55 pm : link
Certainly a story worth bringing up again, considering the need for awareness about CTE-related conditions and deaths is of utmost importance today.
I feel like there is  
pjcas18 : 5/26/2019 3:56 pm : link
a lot science/medicine still don't know about CTE.

In a small sample the guy who tested NFL players brains and reported 96% had CTE came back with 100% of the NHL players brains tested had CTE (in the small sample)

I'm not saying they do or don't or if the do what the impact is or how to know which player will have symptoms vs which one won't. I'm obviously not medically qualified to even guess or have an opinion.

I am interested in this for my own selfish reasons obviously I did not play in the NHL or pro hockey at all, but playing from the time I was 5 from youth hockey to high school to college, until now still playing in my 40's I've played over 5,000 hockey games, probably 10,000 practices and countless hits, many to the head - even in no-check men's league. what would my brain show for CTE?

We need to learn a lot more about this topic and the leagues should be pouring more money into it from a research standpoint, not a CYA standpoint.

It should be in the NFL and NHL CBA's.
CTE  
smokeybandit : 5/26/2019 4:51 pm : link
Still far too little is known about CTE. Obviously preventing head/brain injury is important in impact sports, but I think we're decades away from knowing if CTE is truly more prominent in football than the general population
You seriously have to wonder about the future of football.  
Dave in Buffalo : 5/26/2019 6:16 pm : link
How do you maintain a sport that's built on humans crashing into each other? Institute automatic retirement protocals for players that have reached a certain amount of playing time for their respective positions? Max number of concussions and you're out? No more tackling, just wrap up the ball carrier? Tackling, but now more slamming into each other? Something has to be done. As we've famously been told, every player on player impact is car crash now.
What if there is evidence that Tyler killed himself  
Vanzetti : 5/26/2019 7:26 pm : link
because he thought he had CTE and that CTE would lead to further mental decline

And then twenty years from now real science establishes that there is no substantive link between CTE and all the symptoms supposedly associated with it by pseudo-science today. Can we then prosecute these half-baked alarmists for manslaughter?
No one brings the insight  
Mad Mike : 5/26/2019 7:52 pm : link
and thoughtful reasoning like Vanzetti.
RE: What if there is evidence that Tyler killed himself  
wigs in nyc : 5/26/2019 7:53 pm : link
In comment 14456253 Vanzetti said:
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because he thought he had CTE and that CTE would lead to further mental decline

And then twenty years from now real science establishes that there is no substantive link between CTE and all the symptoms supposedly associated with it by pseudo-science today. Can we then prosecute these half-baked alarmists for manslaughter?


This is some take, alright.
Unfortunately the small sample size  
Jay in Toronto : 5/26/2019 7:55 pm : link
is somewhat vitiated by the overwhelming pattern of findings.
What remains to be seen  
Bgaff : 5/26/2019 8:02 pm : link
Is how prevalent CTE is outside of football. We’ve seen links to soccer and hockey. To the degree that it’s far more common across many different disciplines this lessens the relative risks associated with football. Is this something that all humans experience to varying degrees through the course of their lives (honest question)? So far almost all the tests asses former football players.
And this isn’t to suggest that  
Bgaff : 5/26/2019 8:04 pm : link
The consequences of football aren’t serious. They are grave. But does eliminating football eliminate CTE?
RE: Unfortunately the small sample size  
pjcas18 : 5/26/2019 8:08 pm : link
In comment 14456265 Jay in Toronto said:
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is somewhat vitiated by the overwhelming pattern of findings.


What do you mean? What is the pattern of findings?

100% of NFL brains tested show CTE, but not 100% of players have any symptoms.

they just don't know enough yet other than yes, repeated blows to the head can cause life long damage (seemed obvious, no? just no one knows who, how, when, what, etc). The details of "can" or how the damage will manifest itself seems elusive. In the boxing world they called this punch drunk. It's been known since boxing history from what I know.

They need to study this more, and instead of making contact sport athletes into modern day gladiators they should also take more of an interest in their futures.

In the Stanley Cup playoffs I saw multiple players who were very likely concussed (in my non-expert opinion) pulled from the game, brought to the "quiet room" and returned to the game. In most instances from what I read the players know how to "game the system".

People interested in this topic should read up about Paul Kariya some time. scary shit.





RE: And this isn’t to suggest that  
pjcas18 : 5/26/2019 8:10 pm : link
In comment 14456272 Bgaff said:
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The consequences of football aren’t serious. They are grave. But does eliminating football eliminate CTE?


CTE has been tied to head/brain trauma. not just athletes. military, survivors of domestic violence, autistic people who have a tendency to bang their heads, epilepsy victims, etc. but it has been proven (I believe) to be tied to repeated blows to the head.
RE: What remains to be seen  
giantsFC : 5/27/2019 3:31 am : link
In comment 14456271 Bgaff said:
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Is how prevalent CTE is outside of football. We’ve seen links to soccer and hockey. To the degree that it’s far more common across many different disciplines this lessens the relative risks associated with football. Is this something that all humans experience to varying degrees through the course of their lives (honest question)? So far almost all the tests asses former football players.


Great points. They really need to start observ8g the brains of deceased who did not play football to see if they have CTE as well, and at what percentage
Timely article  
Bgaff : 5/27/2019 9:34 am : link
About a new technology that mimics the body’s use of fluids to protect the brain.

https://www.digitaltrends.com/health-fitness/fluid-inside-helmet-protection-system/
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