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NFT: Chernobyl Final episode

bc4life : 6/3/2019 10:33 pm
Excellent series.
Absolutely great mini series  
George from PA : 6/3/2019 10:38 pm : link
All 5 episode were great....
What a great series.  
Gary from The East End : Admin : 6/4/2019 12:15 am : link
Some of those control room scenes were just too real.
Roose Bolton  
Ron from Ninerland : 6/4/2019 12:21 am : link
graduated from GOT to become a Soviet judge.
Holy God  
santacruzom : 6/4/2019 3:53 am : link
What an accomplishment. Such a fascinating series from start to finish.

Chernobyl is the answer to the question: "What if this absolutely duplicitous, narcissistic, incompetent coworker of mine was doing something *truly* important with lives in the balance?"
Best Mini series in a long time  
bubba0825 : 6/4/2019 7:25 am : link
The quote “why worry about something that isn’t going to happen? Oh that’s perfect, they should put that on our money.”
Scary stuff  
weeg in the bronx : 6/4/2019 7:27 am : link
Didn't realize how close this was to being such a large scale catastrophe. Frightening how bureaucrats made such critical decisions on development of reactors. And would have allowed the flawed design to remain unaddressed.
To nitpick  
Mattman : 6/4/2019 8:25 am : link
When he said it was a nuclear bomb a nuclear engineer would t say that. A reactor can’t cause a nuclear explosion.

Great series though, well done.
Didn't watch the Epi last night yet  
Stu11 : 6/4/2019 8:36 am : link
but yea definitely an epic mini-series. Such a fascinating study on both the perils of the nuclear industry and the workings of the Soviet Union. That head of the KGB's speech to Lagasav in epi 4 was classic USSR
Great show  
jtfuoco : 6/4/2019 9:04 am : link
Those Coal miners where guys you didn't mess around with
Saw the first 2  
ryanmkeane : 6/4/2019 10:21 am : link
going to watch the remaining this week/weekend. Can't wait
A lot of brave people  
steve in ky : 6/4/2019 10:30 am : link
Helped to advert something much worse. Too bad because of the Soviet’s lying and cover ups they were never given their due hero’s acknowledgements for their actions.

Very good show.
Excellent miniseries Comrades  
EliIsEliteX2 : 6/4/2019 10:45 am : link
Each episode was intriguing. Great acting and directing.
RE: A lot of brave people  
steve in ky : 6/4/2019 10:50 am : link
In comment 14462475 steve in ky said:
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Helped to advert something much worse. Too bad because of the Soviet’s lying and cover ups they were never given their due hero’s acknowledgements for their actions.

Very good show.


Should have read as *Avert*

Dumb autocorrect
RE: Best Mini series in a long time  
santacruzom : 6/4/2019 12:21 pm : link
In comment 14462327 bubba0825 said:
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The quote “why worry about something that isn’t going to happen? Oh that’s perfect, they should put that on our money.”


Yeah, I thought that was a brilliant exchange as well.
RE: To nitpick  
since1925 : 6/4/2019 12:37 pm : link
In comment 14462357 Mattman said:
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When he said it was a nuclear bomb a nuclear engineer would t say that. A reactor can’t cause a nuclear explosion.


The team, led by Lars-Erik De Geer, concludes that the first of two explosions reported by eyewitnesses was in fact a nuclear one – or rather, a very rapid series of nuclear ones – followed three seconds later by a secondary steam explosion.

The nuclear explosions, the researchers conclude, sent a jet of debris very high into the sky. The steam explosion immediately afterwards ruptured the reactor and sent still more debris into the atmosphere, but at lower altitudes.

The findings are based on a new analysis of xenon isotopes made four days after the event.
Was Chernobyl explosion nuclear? - ( New Window )
Legasov's explanation of how the disaster occurred  
santacruzom : 6/4/2019 12:42 pm : link
was riveting. Such a well-written and well-acted scene... I could have listened to that guy talk about nuclear power for hours.
great series  
RasputinPrime : 6/4/2019 1:32 pm : link
but lets be honest, it's all fake news. There is no such thing as nuclear energy. It's all coal or nothing baby.
great series  
bluepepper : 6/4/2019 1:34 pm : link
great acting and perfect casting. If Emily Watson ain't a physicist and Stellan Skarsgard ain't an apparatchik then I don't know what to tell you. And Alex Ferns as the miner too. Amazing.
RE: RE: To nitpick  
Mattman : 6/4/2019 2:28 pm : link
In comment 14462629 since1925 said:
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In comment 14462357 Mattman said:


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When he said it was a nuclear bomb a nuclear engineer would t say that. A reactor can’t cause a nuclear explosion.




The team, led by Lars-Erik De Geer, concludes that the first of two explosions reported by eyewitnesses was in fact a nuclear one – or rather, a very rapid series of nuclear ones – followed three seconds later by a secondary steam explosion.

The nuclear explosions, the researchers conclude, sent a jet of debris very high into the sky. The steam explosion immediately afterwards ruptured the reactor and sent still more debris into the atmosphere, but at lower altitudes.

The findings are based on a new analysis of xenon isotopes made four days after the event. Was Chernobyl explosion nuclear? - ( New Window )


From the footnotes of the paper

This nuclear explosion concept must not be confused with a nuclear bomb as the two differ considerably in their principles of operation, neutronics, released energy, and temperatures involved.
I was using nuclear explosion  
Mattman : 6/4/2019 2:30 pm : link
Referring to a nuclear bomb explosion, not what they described. It is an important distinction
RE: Legasov's explanation of how the disaster occurred  
ShocknAwe80 : 6/4/2019 3:56 pm : link
In comment 14462632 santacruzom said:
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was riveting. Such a well-written and well-acted scene... I could have listened to that guy talk about nuclear power for hours.


agree completely!
RE: I was using nuclear explosion  
since1925 : 6/4/2019 4:00 pm : link
In comment 14462808 Mattman said:
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Referring to a nuclear bomb explosion, not what they described. It is an important distinction


No one has really explained the psychics of the explosion exactly. They simply infer it was an nuclear explosion because of the power of the initial explosion was greater than one that would produced by steam.

That legaslov actor....  
thrunthrublue : 6/4/2019 7:11 pm : link
Was also a fantastic villain in the second Sherlock Holmes movie.....the decision to not go with russian language actors really worked.....it all boiled down (excuse the pun) to cost cutting not being optimal when building nuclear reactors!
and ego/ambition  
bc4life : 6/5/2019 7:19 am : link
they could have delayed the test - wasn't that part of it?
I'd recommend people check out the podcast  
Sonic Youth : 6/5/2019 8:13 am : link
Really interesting supplemental material
Should be REQUIRED VIEWING...  
x meadowlander : 6/11/2019 2:21 pm : link
...for anyone who works in safety-critical processes, regardless of the end-product or system.

I always knew Chernobyl to be the result of a botched test - never realized the true scope of the major process issues that caused the catastrophe.

A phenomenal series, but you don't realize just HOW great until that final episode. I was wondering if they'd ever get back to what happened in the control room when it blew.

I will say this - I despise the Russian government, but the anti-Russian propaganda got old for me rather quickly. Am I to believe that in 1987, ALL of Russia was dimly-lit, with seasick-green paint and filthy walls? Looked like they stole sets from 'The Americans'.

Still, one of the most powerful things I've ever seen on TV. Cannot recommend enough.
RE: I was using nuclear explosion  
x meadowlander : 6/11/2019 2:24 pm : link
In comment 14462808 Mattman said:
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Referring to a nuclear bomb explosion, not what they described. It is an important distinction
Why did this need to be explained. If it were a 'atomic-bomb' nuclear explosion, there would have been NOTHING left. No smokestack, no control room, no Pripyat.
RE: Should be REQUIRED VIEWING...  
rnargi : 6/11/2019 2:36 pm : link
In comment 14469481 x meadowlander said:
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...for anyone who works in safety-critical processes, regardless of the end-product or system.

I always knew Chernobyl to be the result of a botched test - never realized the true scope of the major process issues that caused the catastrophe.

A phenomenal series, but you don't realize just HOW great until that final episode. I was wondering if they'd ever get back to what happened in the control room when it blew.

I will say this - I despise the Russian government, but the anti-Russian propaganda got old for me rather quickly. Am I to believe that in 1987, ALL of Russia was dimly-lit, with seasick-green paint and filthy walls? Looked like they stole sets from 'The Americans'.

Still, one of the most powerful things I've ever seen on TV. Cannot recommend enough.


X...believe it or not, that's the way it looked and pretty much still does. There wasn't a lot of stock put into asthetics. They didn't have the money for it. The US Navy isn't much different. Many if not most buildings are stark, bland, unadorned, and dim. The barracks, even more so. They didn't spend a lot of money sprucing up the place.
RE: Should be REQUIRED VIEWING...  
Gary from The East End : Admin : 6/11/2019 2:43 pm : link
In comment 14469481 x meadowlander said:
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I will say this - I despise the Russian government, but the anti-Russian propaganda got old for me rather quickly. Am I to believe that in 1987, ALL of Russia was dimly-lit, with seasick-green paint and filthy walls? Looked like they stole sets from 'The Americans'.


One of the things that's gotten high praise from people who lived in the Soviet Union around this time is the look of the show.

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In “Chernobyl,” which was created and written by Craig Mazin and directed by Johan Renck, the material culture of the Soviet Union is reproduced with an accuracy that has never before been seen in Western television or film—or, for that matter, in Russian television or film. Clothes, objects, and light itself seem to come straight out of nineteen-eighties Ukraine, Belarus, and Moscow. (There are tiny errors, like a holiday uniform worn by schoolchildren on a non-holiday, or teen-agers carrying little kids’ school bags, but this is truly splitting hairs.) Soviet-born Americans—and, indeed, Soviet-born Russians—have been tweeting and blogging in awe at the uncanny precision with which the physical surroundings of Soviet people have been reproduced.


I've linked the article below and I think it's an interesting perspective on the show, although I disagree with the general theme of it.
What HBO’s “Chernobyl” Got Right, and What It Got Terribly Wrong - ( New Window )
RE: RE: Should be REQUIRED VIEWING...  
x meadowlander : 6/11/2019 2:52 pm : link
In comment 14469515 Gary from The East End said:
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In comment 14469481 x meadowlander said:


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I will say this - I despise the Russian government, but the anti-Russian propaganda got old for me rather quickly. Am I to believe that in 1987, ALL of Russia was dimly-lit, with seasick-green paint and filthy walls? Looked like they stole sets from 'The Americans'.




One of the things that's gotten high praise from people who lived in the Soviet Union around this time is the look of the show.



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In “Chernobyl,” which was created and written by Craig Mazin and directed by Johan Renck, the material culture of the Soviet Union is reproduced with an accuracy that has never before been seen in Western television or film—or, for that matter, in Russian television or film. Clothes, objects, and light itself seem to come straight out of nineteen-eighties Ukraine, Belarus, and Moscow. (There are tiny errors, like a holiday uniform worn by schoolchildren on a non-holiday, or teen-agers carrying little kids’ school bags, but this is truly splitting hairs.) Soviet-born Americans—and, indeed, Soviet-born Russians—have been tweeting and blogging in awe at the uncanny precision with which the physical surroundings of Soviet people have been reproduced.



I've linked the article below and I think it's an interesting perspective on the show, although I disagree with the general theme of it. What HBO’s “Chernobyl” Got Right, and What It Got Terribly Wrong - ( New Window )
Interesting - I wasn't kidding when I compared it to 'The Americans' - that show did the same exact thing in portraying 80's Russia. Same dim fluorescent lighting, same seasick green paint, same dirty walls.

The only 'flaw' I spotted was that every car was squeaky clean and rust free. This is common in a lot of film and TV, cause classic car owners aren't big on letting production coat their vehicles with dirt.
That's what the SU was like  
Gary from The East End : Admin : 6/11/2019 3:13 pm : link
Don't you remember this commercial?

Link - ( New Window )
The comment about the Soviet Union not looking like that  
Zeke's Alibi : 6/11/2019 4:37 pm : link
caught my attention before. Why wouldn't it look like that? A giant economically failing state would look to cut corners on cost anywhere they could. Cheap paint, clothes, etc. As a vet I can tell you the military runs on the same principle. Half the stuff they buy is purchased from the institute of the blind, base constructions are stable, but drab, etc etc.
It's what most of the former SU looks like  
kennyd : 6/11/2019 6:06 pm : link
even today, especially that part. Ukraine, Belarus, etc are stuck in the most drab, worst aspects of the 1950's and 60's,

It was a really fantastic series
RE: It's what most of the former SU looks like  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 6/11/2019 6:18 pm : link
In comment 14469771 kennyd said:
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even today, especially that part. Ukraine, Belarus, etc are stuck in the most drab, worst aspects of the 1950's and 60's,

It was a really fantastic series


It was filmed in the Ukraine and Lithuania.
RE: RE: It's what most of the former SU looks like  
kennyd : 6/11/2019 6:21 pm : link
I just meant the parts that where most of the damage was done. Didn't realize that's where they filmed it, interesting. I'm sure shooting there kept costs down considerably. That was NOT a cheap shoot

In comment 14469780 Eric from BBI said:
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In comment 14469771 kennyd said:


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even today, especially that part. Ukraine, Belarus, etc are stuck in the most drab, worst aspects of the 1950's and 60's,

It was a really fantastic series



It was filmed in the Ukraine and Lithuania.
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