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DpeeFor2 : 6/5/2019 4:53 pm
Ramona Shelburne says Knicks ahead of Lakers in AD chase
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RE: Update from Woj on AD talks  
nygiants16 : 6/10/2019 12:28 pm : link
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sounds if it is lakers or knicks the deal will be done before the draft..

Also Woj mentioned knicks would do the deal to pair with kd not to form a big 3
RE: Update from Woj on AD talks  
bceagle05 : 6/10/2019 12:31 pm : link
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Thanks for posting. Looks like this is going to be done prior to the draft, so we can forget the Dream Team scenario of KD, AD and Kyrie, which was a one-in-a-million shot under the best of circumstances. It sure would be nice to have Anthony Davis seated at the table when KD/Kawhi arrive for their visits.
Pelicans want  
bceagle05 : 6/10/2019 12:40 pm : link
All-Star player, young potential All-Star, and two first round picks. They want to compete right away with Holiday and Zion, which is wise.
Sounds like Boston could wrap this up in one phone call  
bceagle05 : 6/10/2019 12:45 pm : link
if they wanted to roll the dice.
RE: Sounds like Boston could wrap this up in one phone call  
nygiants16 : 6/10/2019 12:47 pm : link
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if they wanted to roll the dice.


which is weird because according to woj boston was not one of the teams who reached out, unless i missed it
RE: Pelicans want  
Strahan91 : 6/10/2019 12:48 pm : link
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All-Star player, young potential All-Star, and two first round picks. They want to compete right away with Holiday and Zion, which is wise.

Seems like an ask for the moon type deal that no one will actually meet. Boston for example would need to trade Tatum, Brown and two firsts and they're the only team that could meet their price. Then though they'd have nothing left in the coffers and wouldn't have the roster to compete this upcoming year so I have a hard time believing they'll make that deal with a decent likelihood AD just walks in a year anyways.
RE: RE: Pelicans want  
nygiants16 : 6/10/2019 12:52 pm : link
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All-Star player, young potential All-Star, and two first round picks. They want to compete right away with Holiday and Zion, which is wise.


Seems like an ask for the moon type deal that no one will actually meet. Boston for example would need to trade Tatum, Brown and two firsts and they're the only team that could meet their price. Then though they'd have nothing left in the coffers and wouldn't have the roster to compete this upcoming year so I have a hard time believing they'll make that deal with a decent likelihood AD just walks in a year anyways.


woj says they are flexible and that is why pelicans are looking for multiple teams
I just view that as posturing given how difficult  
Strahan91 : 6/10/2019 12:54 pm : link
it is to pull together a deal of that size. Once you bring a third team into the fold that isn't just taking a player's salary for a pick or something of the sort, it becomes very hard to get to the finish line.
Griffin  
Enzo : 6/10/2019 12:59 pm : link
may as well have gotten a byline on that article, lol.
RE: Griffin  
Strahan91 : 6/10/2019 1:01 pm : link
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may as well have gotten a byline on that article, lol.

Lol yep and in return Woj will get to break the news when the trade is agreed upon.
RE: RE: Pelicans want  
Giantz_comeback : 6/10/2019 1:58 pm : link
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All-Star player, young potential All-Star, and two first round picks. They want to compete right away with Holiday and Zion, which is wise.


Seems like an ask for the moon type deal that no one will actually meet. Boston for example would need to trade Tatum, Brown and two firsts and they're the only team that could meet their price. Then though they'd have nothing left in the coffers and wouldn't have the roster to compete this upcoming year so I have a hard time believing they'll make that deal with a decent likelihood AD just walks in a year anyways.


Mitch, RJ Barrett and both Dallas picks certainly come close to that offer. The only thing not in that offering is an fully established and proven all star. But it pretty much everything else that they are looking for.

It all depends on how much we are willing to give up because our offer could be right up there if not the best (sans Boston who AD doesn't want to play for).
RE: RE: Update from Woj on AD talks  
Giantz_comeback : 6/10/2019 2:02 pm : link
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sounds if it is lakers or knicks the deal will be done before the draft..

Also Woj mentioned knicks would do the deal to pair with kd not to form a big 3


I hope if we punt on AD it's because we have an inside track on Kawhi or the very least another 2nd max while keeping RJ Barrett. If you get Kawhi and KD and keep Barrett and Mitch that is certainly a better alternative to AD and KD while losing Mitch and RJ Barrett
Let's say some of these murmurs  
Giantz_comeback : 6/10/2019 2:15 pm : link
About not forming a big 3 are true:

If that is the clear case then getting Kawhi is the ideal scenario by far because of the assets it will cost to get AD. And the drop after Kawhi is pretty big on the other potential 2nd maxes.

Can we convince Kawhi that KD, RJ Barrett, Mitch, DeAndre and Trier, DSJ, Knox would be the best team to join next year?

Jordan/Mitch
KD/Vet/Mitch/Knox
Kawhi/KD/Knox
RJ Barrett/Dotson/Trier
DSJ/Allen/Frank

Too much youth? There is some D 1-5 on that squad, plenty of scorers too.
so say we trade for AD....  
Italianju : 6/10/2019 2:17 pm : link
for Mitch, #3, DAL pick, and say Frank (to dump his salary). Then we sign KD. How much capspace would we have left? Anything? ~10 mill is my guess, not really enough to do anything with. Prolly goes to like Jordan or something. Really liked the idea of signing two guys and keeping all the assets, but im ok either way. AD is one of the top 5 players in the league and if you are pairing him with a KD or Kawhi then you are in great shape.
RE: so say we trade for AD....  
Giantz_comeback : 6/10/2019 2:27 pm : link
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for Mitch, #3, DAL pick, and say Frank (to dump his salary). Then we sign KD. How much capspace would we have left? Anything? ~10 mill is my guess, not really enough to do anything with. Prolly goes to like Jordan or something. Really liked the idea of signing two guys and keeping all the assets, but im ok either way. AD is one of the top 5 players in the league and if you are pairing him with a KD or Kawhi then you are in great shape.


Love AD but yeah it will take a lot more creativity if we go that route.

But if its only 2 but not 3. I'd rather get Kawhi and KD and keep a guy like Barrett and Mitch. For all 3 I'd go the Miami route and sell the farm and go with vet mins and ring chasers
RE: so say we trade for AD....  
Enzo : 6/10/2019 3:59 pm : link
In comment 14468299 Italianju said:
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for Mitch, #3, DAL pick, and say Frank (to dump his salary). Then we sign KD. How much capspace would we have left? Anything? ~10 mill is my guess, not really enough to do anything with. Prolly goes to like Jordan or something. Really liked the idea of signing two guys and keeping all the assets, but im ok either way. AD is one of the top 5 players in the league and if you are pairing him with a KD or Kawhi then you are in great shape.

sorta related, but as the cap rises and max salaries reach absurd levels ($40-$50 million), I think you'll see guys start taking less than the max but still get crazy money, e.g. a guy like Durant can get something like 3/120 from a new team this summer. Maybe he takes 3/100 if that puts him in a better situation. There have been some previous examples of guys taking less than the max, but it's possible it becomes more prevalent as the total dollars involved becomes more absurd.
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Anakim : 6/10/2019 4:25 pm : link
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RJ Barrett confirmed he has no other workouts scheduled. "This is the place I want to be. I hope they draft me."
The  
DanMetroMan : 6/10/2019 4:52 pm : link
case for Barrett
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