over at cbs sports.com. The title is What three year plan? Don't know how to link it but found it under Eric's info/links page under links, then CBS Sports page.
Not only is Jones impressing but Prisco confirms that, both, NFL executives liked Jones a lot more than the media, and Gettleman wasn’t bullshitting when he said other top 15 teams had significant interest in him.
I was down on the pick, but will happily admit a mistake if Jones excels. I always love an underdog story too - it would be nice to see him shut everyone up. Gettleman would never let the media hear the end of it either.
"Skeptics will point to his losing record at Duke to wonder if he has it, but like I told Jones, he played with bartenders and bouncers at Duke. He wasn't winning a lot of games with that team, no matter what he did."
Not only is Jones impressing but Prisco confirms that, both, NFL executives liked Jones a lot more than the media, and Gettleman wasn’t bullshitting when he said other top 15 teams had significant interest in him.
Where was the phrase "significant interest" used in the article?
The words "liked" and "interest" were used. Liking and having interest doesn't in Jones doesn't mean teams were desperate for or loved Jones.
than the mass of draftnik talking heads. But much of the positives come from viewing one practice.
I was also a Jones doubter and critic as I just didn't like his college tape. It still remains to be seen if he's better than he appeared to be at Duke, with real teammates around him and real defenders trying to sack his ass as well.
I would not get too excited about how any one looks in summer shorts workouts. But still happy to read good, contrarian reports. DJ8 is who we got going forward, so praying DG nailed the pick.
Not only is Jones impressing but Prisco confirms that, both, NFL executives liked Jones a lot more than the media, and Gettleman wasn’t bullshitting when he said other top 15 teams had significant interest in him.
Where was the phrase "significant interest" used in the article?
The words "liked" and "interest" were used. Liking and having interest doesn't in Jones doesn't mean teams were desperate for or loved Jones.
Are you intentionally being obtuse? Taking issue with the semantics of the words of the poster, asking him to refer to the article to justify his comment?
I looked at the article very closely here's what Prisco actually said:
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Gettleman took a ton of criticism for making the pick, but took even more when he said other teams in the top 15 of the draft were interested in Jones. That was indeed true, as I talked to personnel people leading up to the draft and then again after it.
Again, other than semantics what was wrong with his post?
Wanted to take Jones. Denver traded after Jones went off the board.
Maybe but I doubt it. Enough media people that were actually plugged in, like Jay Glazer, said that he probably would have been there. The real point is that it doesn't matter at all. There are good gambles and foolish gambles. Slowplaying a full house against multiple opponents on a draw heavy board with a huge pot in play? That's a foolish gamble. If the Giants thought they were sitting on a full house and the pot warranted locking it down, then they 100% made the right decision despite possibly sacrificing some value. I understand it's an obnoxious analogy given my handle but that's exactly the kind of situation the Giants were in at 6. Incomplete information while sitting on a vulnerable made hand with a big pot at stake.
The entire blowback from "not waiting until 17 for Jones" was one of the dumbest things I've seen from the draft media, which is a pretty high bar.
Wanted to take Jones. Denver traded after Jones went off the board.
Maybe but I doubt it. Enough media people that were actually plugged in, like Jay Glazer, said that he probably would have been there. The real point is that it doesn't matter at all. There are good gambles and foolish gambles. Slowplaying a full house against multiple opponents on a draw heavy board with a huge pot in play? That's a foolish gamble. If the Giants thought they were sitting on a full house and the pot warranted locking it down, then they 100% made the right decision despite possibly sacrificing some value. I understand it's an obnoxious analogy given my handle but that's exactly the kind of situation the Giants were in at 6. Incomplete information while sitting on a vulnerable made hand with a big pot at stake.
The entire blowback from "not waiting until 17 for Jones" was one of the dumbest things I've seen from the draft media, which is a pretty high bar.
Full house = set, for the sake of the analogy. End of a long day, my apologies. Point being there was too much at stake and you're too vulnerable to risk waiting in the name of value.
Wanted to take Jones. Denver traded after Jones went off the board.
Maybe but I doubt it. Enough media people that were actually plugged in, like Jay Glazer, said that he probably would have been there. The real point is that it doesn't matter at all. There are good gambles and foolish gambles. Slowplaying a full house against multiple opponents on a draw heavy board with a huge pot in play? That's a foolish gamble. If the Giants thought they were sitting on a full house and the pot warranted locking it down, then they 100% made the right decision despite possibly sacrificing some value. I understand it's an obnoxious analogy given my handle but that's exactly the kind of situation the Giants were in at 6. Incomplete information while sitting on a vulnerable made hand with a big pot at stake.
The entire blowback from "not waiting until 17 for Jones" was one of the dumbest things I've seen from the draft media, which is a pretty high bar.
I follow and agree with your analogy. While I was surprised by the pick, if that's their evaluation of the player, they have to take him there. And we still ended up with two defensive studs in the first.
But, a franchise quarterback is the pick 100 times out of 100 at 6 if that's a need and that's the evaluation of the player.
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Not only is Jones impressing but Prisco confirms that, both, NFL executives liked Jones a lot more than the media, and Gettleman wasn’t bullshitting when he said other top 15 teams had significant interest in him.
Where was the phrase "significant interest" used in the article?
The words "liked" and "interest" were used. Liking and having interest doesn't in Jones doesn't mean teams were desperate for or loved Jones.
It means that they may have selected him before the Giants pick at 17. Prisco has CONFIRMED THIS.
But, go ahead continue your nonsense.
Well he has proven to have money sources on the Draft
Pete Prisco
@PriscoCBS
The more personnel guys I talked to at NFL Meetings, the more convinced I am Davis Webb is going in first round - higher than you think.
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Pete Prisco
@PriscoCBS
Giants taking Chubb
10:10 AM · Mar 22, 2018 · Twitter for iPhone
CBS Sports’ Pete Prisco reported Sunday that the Cardinals’ ownership floated the idea of drafting Murray in an attempt to generate excitement among the fanbase, which in turn would help sell more tickets. But after not getting the desired reaction, Prisco says the Cardinals are no longer planning to select the Heisman Trophy winner with the top pick.
people minimize the importance of being able to deal with being in NYC. This kid has what Eli has in that regard.
OBJ reveled in it for the wrong reasons, and I think he'll be unhappy in Cleveland because he won't be in the spotlight as much (especially if he has another long injury).
Man, we're still talking about when Jones was drafted? Â
Full house = set, for the sake of the analogy. End of a long day, my apologies. Point being there was too much at stake and you're too vulnerable to risk waiting in the name of value.
You've always had great poker posts, so I was wondering if I've been losing value all these years slow playing a Full House! That type of hand - especially one where a flush or straight comes through is what gets me far in a lot of tourneys.
Lots of reports were linking Redskins to Jones, especially as it came closer to draft day. There was a report from Russini(espn) pre draft that said Redskins were split on Jones/Haskins with Snyder/Allen preferring Haskins and the “football people”(Gruden and Skins coaches) preferring Jones. Greg Gabriel reported on twitter day of or before draft that Redskins were trying to get into top 5, and the player they were targeting was Jones, this was pre draft. There were reports from Daniel Jeremiah day of draft mentioning this as well(and also suggesting Haskins interest). They were reports on Twitter(Gabriel and others)day after Jones pro day that if teams liked him they would have to get him higher than originally thought:
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· Apr 5
Duke QB Daniel Jones has had recent private meetings and workouts in Durham, NC with the Giants, Broncos, Dolphins and Chargers, per source. He also is scheduled to visit the Redskins on Wednesday and Thursday.
Jim Nagy
@JimNagy_SB
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@greggabe
You must be talking to some of the same people as me, Greg. NFL liked Jones more than most media types dock up with links and they are pre draft. Th
Greg Gabriel
@greggabe
No way Jones makes it to Giants at 17. They will have to trade up to get him if that is their guy
Jim Nagy
@JimNagy_SB
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@greggabe
You must be talking to some of the same people as me, Greg. NFL liked Jones more than most media types do
This buzz all started outside of Giants land, from reputable non giant sources after the pro day at Duke and grew after his visits with teams
To be clear Dave 'Te wasn't confirming there were 2 teams interested between 6 and 17, he was saying Gettleman lied.
The point is, which doesn't get talked about enough is that is not what matters. What actually matters is that at 6, with all the other quarterbacks not named Kyler Murray on the board, and several top defensive prospects including Josh Allen, that the Giants chose Daniel Jones. They could have picked any of the quarterbacks, and maybe they could have tried to play around and wait till 17, or trade up from 17 but they felt taking Jones at 6 was important enough because they valued him that much over the other quarterbacks. They had identified their player. That's what actually matters, they valued him that much that missing on him and settling on one of the other quarterbacks was not worth the risk. That's what Giants fans should be happy about. That's exactly why I didn't want a quarterback at 17. If there wasn't a guy that they thought could replace Manning, don't take him..go BPA, but don't get cute and try to get him at 17, because in reality it doesn't take 2 teams to like him, it only takes one, and now you are settling, you get the leftovers..and with quarterback especially I think that's a bad idea.
That's why I laugh at all the praise the Redskins got for Haskins. The Redskins sat and were prepared to take what fell to them, let Haskins go past several quarterback hungry teams and didn't make the effort to move up to secure him, yet now they are touting him as some great selection.
The Redskins either:
A)didn't believe any of the other quarterback hungry teams picking ahead of them thought highly enough of Haskins so they didn't need to move up.
B) Didn't think he was worth trading up for to secure they were able to select the quarterback of their choice.
C)Were prepared to select the highest rated quarterback that fell to them.
For me it looks pretty clear the Redskins went with option C, but none of those options are really a ringing endorsement for Dwayne Haskins and honestly make the Redskins look a bit foolish.
What is indisputable is that the Giants had a stronger conviction on their first round quarterback selection than the Redkskins did. Forget asshats, tweets, media reports or inside info..each teams actions on draft night told you this much.
Not to mention gdiefors asshat post a week before the draft Â
Saying Giants were prepared to just take Jones at 6 because they believed a few teams had interest and he wouldn’t be available unless they traded back up from 17.
Lots of reports were linking Redskins to Jones, especially as it came closer to draft day. There was a report from Russini(espn) pre draft that said Redskins were split on Jones/Haskins with Snyder/Allen preferring Haskins and the “football people”(Gruden and Skins coaches) preferring Jones. Greg Gabriel reported on twitter day of or before draft that Redskins were trying to get into top 5, and the player they were targeting was Jones, this was pre draft. There were reports from Daniel Jeremiah day of draft mentioning this as well(and also suggesting Haskins interest). They were reports on Twitter(Gabriel and others)day after Jones pro day that if teams liked him they would have to get him higher than originally thought:
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@AdamSchefter
· Apr 5
Duke QB Daniel Jones has had recent private meetings and workouts in Durham, NC with the Giants, Broncos, Dolphins and Chargers, per source. He also is scheduled to visit the Redskins on Wednesday and Thursday.
Jim Nagy
@JimNagy_SB
Replying to
@greggabe
You must be talking to some of the same people as me, Greg. NFL liked Jones more than most media types dock up with links and they are pre draft. Th
Greg Gabriel
@greggabe
No way Jones makes it to Giants at 17. They will have to trade up to get him if that is their guy
Jim Nagy
@JimNagy_SB
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@greggabe
You must be talking to some of the same people as me, Greg. NFL liked Jones more than most media types do
This buzz all started outside of Giants land, from reputable non giant sources after the pro day at Duke and grew after his visits with teams
To be clear Dave 'Te wasn't confirming there were 2 teams interested between 6 and 17, he was saying Gettleman lied.
The point is, which doesn't get talked about enough is that is not what matters. What actually matters is that at 6, with all the other quarterbacks not named Kyler Murray on the board, and several top defensive prospects including Josh Allen, that the Giants chose Daniel Jones. They could have picked any of the quarterbacks, and maybe they could have tried to play around and wait till 17, or trade up from 17 but they felt taking Jones at 6 was important enough because they valued him that much over the other quarterbacks. They had identified their player. That's what actually matters, they valued him that much that missing on him and settling on one of the other quarterbacks was not worth the risk. That's what Giants fans should be happy about. That's exactly why I didn't want a quarterback at 17. If there wasn't a guy that they thought could replace Manning, don't take him..go BPA, but don't get cute and try to get him at 17, because in reality it doesn't take 2 teams to like him, it only takes one, and now you are settling, you get the leftovers..and with quarterback especially I think that's a bad idea.
That's why I laugh at all the praise the Redskins got for Haskins. The Redskins sat and were prepared to take what fell to them, let Haskins go past several quarterback hungry teams and didn't make the effort to move up to secure him, yet now they are touting him as some great selection.
The Redskins either:
A)didn't believe any of the other quarterback hungry teams picking ahead of them thought highly enough of Haskins so they didn't need to move up.
B) Didn't think he was worth trading up for to secure they were able to select the quarterback of their choice.
C)Were prepared to select the highest rated quarterback that fell to them.
For me it looks pretty clear the Redskins went with option C, but none of those options are really a ringing endorsement for Dwayne Haskins and honestly make the Redskins look a bit foolish.
What is indisputable is that the Giants had a stronger conviction on their first round quarterback selection than the Redkskins did. Forget asshats, tweets, media reports or inside info..each teams actions on draft night told you this much.
Awesome! When do they hand out the Strongest Conviction Trophy?
Light up the Redskins twice and Dexter Lawrence breaks Haskins leg just for wearing Theismans number. Probably the Tuesday after the second game, probably at a local Chili’s restaurant.
You know damn well what Prisco meant, stop being an ass.
Or continue, I don't care if you like looking the fool.
I know what Prisco was trying to suggest. But it's not uncommon for teams to like specific players. Whether they were/are enamored with a player - to make them a specific top of the board target - is a completely different proposition.
In my eyes, this is another article with a motive to assuage the narrative that Jones was over-drafted. I'm okay with that, but I read nothing convincing that makes Prisco's information more compelling than information that has suggested Jones was not highly coveted by any other teams than the Giants...
You know damn well what Prisco meant, stop being an ass.
Or continue, I don't care if you like looking the fool.
I know what Prisco was trying to suggest. But it's not uncommon for teams to like specific players. Whether they were/are enamored with a player - to make them a specific top of the board target - is a completely different proposition.
In my eyes, this is another article with a motive to assuage the narrative that Jones was over-drafted. I'm okay with that, but I read nothing convincing that makes Prisco's information more compelling than information that has suggested Jones was not highly coveted by any other teams than the Giants...
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Yeah, well, that's all well and good. But you spelled lonk wrong. Sheesh.
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Yeah, well, that's all well and good. But you spelled lonk wrong. Sheesh.
I don't "lonk." I "link."
Where was the phrase "significant interest" used in the article?
The words "liked" and "interest" were used. Liking and having interest doesn't in Jones doesn't mean teams were desperate for or loved Jones.
I was also a Jones doubter and critic as I just didn't like his college tape. It still remains to be seen if he's better than he appeared to be at Duke, with real teammates around him and real defenders trying to sack his ass as well.
I would not get too excited about how any one looks in summer shorts workouts. But still happy to read good, contrarian reports. DJ8 is who we got going forward, so praying DG nailed the pick.
Or continue, I don't care if you like looking the fool.
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Not only is Jones impressing but Prisco confirms that, both, NFL executives liked Jones a lot more than the media, and Gettleman wasn’t bullshitting when he said other top 15 teams had significant interest in him.
Where was the phrase "significant interest" used in the article?
The words "liked" and "interest" were used. Liking and having interest doesn't in Jones doesn't mean teams were desperate for or loved Jones.
Are you intentionally being obtuse? Taking issue with the semantics of the words of the poster, asking him to refer to the article to justify his comment?
I looked at the article very closely here's what Prisco actually said:
Again, other than semantics what was wrong with his post?
Maybe but I doubt it. Enough media people that were actually plugged in, like Jay Glazer, said that he probably would have been there. The real point is that it doesn't matter at all. There are good gambles and foolish gambles. Slowplaying a full house against multiple opponents on a draw heavy board with a huge pot in play? That's a foolish gamble. If the Giants thought they were sitting on a full house and the pot warranted locking it down, then they 100% made the right decision despite possibly sacrificing some value. I understand it's an obnoxious analogy given my handle but that's exactly the kind of situation the Giants were in at 6. Incomplete information while sitting on a vulnerable made hand with a big pot at stake.
The entire blowback from "not waiting until 17 for Jones" was one of the dumbest things I've seen from the draft media, which is a pretty high bar.
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Wanted to take Jones. Denver traded after Jones went off the board.
Maybe but I doubt it. Enough media people that were actually plugged in, like Jay Glazer, said that he probably would have been there. The real point is that it doesn't matter at all. There are good gambles and foolish gambles. Slowplaying a full house against multiple opponents on a draw heavy board with a huge pot in play? That's a foolish gamble. If the Giants thought they were sitting on a full house and the pot warranted locking it down, then they 100% made the right decision despite possibly sacrificing some value. I understand it's an obnoxious analogy given my handle but that's exactly the kind of situation the Giants were in at 6. Incomplete information while sitting on a vulnerable made hand with a big pot at stake.
The entire blowback from "not waiting until 17 for Jones" was one of the dumbest things I've seen from the draft media, which is a pretty high bar.
Full house = set, for the sake of the analogy. End of a long day, my apologies. Point being there was too much at stake and you're too vulnerable to risk waiting in the name of value.
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Wanted to take Jones. Denver traded after Jones went off the board.
Maybe but I doubt it. Enough media people that were actually plugged in, like Jay Glazer, said that he probably would have been there. The real point is that it doesn't matter at all. There are good gambles and foolish gambles. Slowplaying a full house against multiple opponents on a draw heavy board with a huge pot in play? That's a foolish gamble. If the Giants thought they were sitting on a full house and the pot warranted locking it down, then they 100% made the right decision despite possibly sacrificing some value. I understand it's an obnoxious analogy given my handle but that's exactly the kind of situation the Giants were in at 6. Incomplete information while sitting on a vulnerable made hand with a big pot at stake.
The entire blowback from "not waiting until 17 for Jones" was one of the dumbest things I've seen from the draft media, which is a pretty high bar.
I follow and agree with your analogy. While I was surprised by the pick, if that's their evaluation of the player, they have to take him there. And we still ended up with two defensive studs in the first.
But, a franchise quarterback is the pick 100 times out of 100 at 6 if that's a need and that's the evaluation of the player.
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Not only is Jones impressing but Prisco confirms that, both, NFL executives liked Jones a lot more than the media, and Gettleman wasn’t bullshitting when he said other top 15 teams had significant interest in him.
Where was the phrase "significant interest" used in the article?
The words "liked" and "interest" were used. Liking and having interest doesn't in Jones doesn't mean teams were desperate for or loved Jones.
It means that they may have selected him before the Giants pick at 17. Prisco has CONFIRMED THIS.
But, go ahead continue your nonsense.
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Pete Prisco
@PriscoCBS
The more personnel guys I talked to at NFL Meetings, the more convinced I am Davis Webb is going in first round - higher than you think.
10:32 PM · Mar 29, 2017 · Twitter for Mac
Pete Prisco
@PriscoCBS
Giants taking Chubb
10:10 AM · Mar 22, 2018 · Twitter for iPhone
CBS Sports’ Pete Prisco reported Sunday that the Cardinals’ ownership floated the idea of drafting Murray in an attempt to generate excitement among the fanbase, which in turn would help sell more tickets. But after not getting the desired reaction, Prisco says the Cardinals are no longer planning to select the Heisman Trophy winner with the top pick.
Prisco is clearly dialed in
OBJ reveled in it for the wrong reasons, and I think he'll be unhappy in Cleveland because he won't be in the spotlight as much (especially if he has another long injury).
You've always had great poker posts, so I was wondering if I've been losing value all these years slow playing a Full House! That type of hand - especially one where a flush or straight comes through is what gets me far in a lot of tourneys.
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Adam Schefter
@AdamSchefter
· Apr 5
Duke QB Daniel Jones has had recent private meetings and workouts in Durham, NC with the Giants, Broncos, Dolphins and Chargers, per source. He also is scheduled to visit the Redskins on Wednesday and Thursday.
Jim Nagy
@JimNagy_SB
Replying to
@greggabe
You must be talking to some of the same people as me, Greg. NFL liked Jones more than most media types dock up with links and they are pre draft. Th
Greg Gabriel
@greggabe
No way Jones makes it to Giants at 17. They will have to trade up to get him if that is their guy
Jim Nagy
@JimNagy_SB
Replying to
@greggabe
You must be talking to some of the same people as me, Greg. NFL liked Jones more than most media types do
This buzz all started outside of Giants land, from reputable non giant sources after the pro day at Duke and grew after his visits with teams
To be clear Dave 'Te wasn't confirming there were 2 teams interested between 6 and 17, he was saying Gettleman lied.
The point is, which doesn't get talked about enough is that is not what matters. What actually matters is that at 6, with all the other quarterbacks not named Kyler Murray on the board, and several top defensive prospects including Josh Allen, that the Giants chose Daniel Jones. They could have picked any of the quarterbacks, and maybe they could have tried to play around and wait till 17, or trade up from 17 but they felt taking Jones at 6 was important enough because they valued him that much over the other quarterbacks. They had identified their player. That's what actually matters, they valued him that much that missing on him and settling on one of the other quarterbacks was not worth the risk. That's what Giants fans should be happy about. That's exactly why I didn't want a quarterback at 17. If there wasn't a guy that they thought could replace Manning, don't take him..go BPA, but don't get cute and try to get him at 17, because in reality it doesn't take 2 teams to like him, it only takes one, and now you are settling, you get the leftovers..and with quarterback especially I think that's a bad idea.
That's why I laugh at all the praise the Redskins got for Haskins. The Redskins sat and were prepared to take what fell to them, let Haskins go past several quarterback hungry teams and didn't make the effort to move up to secure him, yet now they are touting him as some great selection.
The Redskins either:
A)didn't believe any of the other quarterback hungry teams picking ahead of them thought highly enough of Haskins so they didn't need to move up.
B) Didn't think he was worth trading up for to secure they were able to select the quarterback of their choice.
C)Were prepared to select the highest rated quarterback that fell to them.
For me it looks pretty clear the Redskins went with option C, but none of those options are really a ringing endorsement for Dwayne Haskins and honestly make the Redskins look a bit foolish.
What is indisputable is that the Giants had a stronger conviction on their first round quarterback selection than the Redkskins did. Forget asshats, tweets, media reports or inside info..each teams actions on draft night told you this much.
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Yeah, well, that's all well and good. But you spelled lonk wrong. Sheesh.
I don't "lonk." I "link."
Ahhh, I guess I was <i>missing</i> that!
Save your breath, amigo. This topic will never die, even though...
It just doesn't matter!
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Duke QB Daniel Jones has had recent private meetings and workouts in Durham, NC with the Giants, Broncos, Dolphins and Chargers, per source. He also is scheduled to visit the Redskins on Wednesday and Thursday.
Jim Nagy
@JimNagy_SB
Replying to
@greggabe
You must be talking to some of the same people as me, Greg. NFL liked Jones more than most media types dock up with links and they are pre draft. Th
Greg Gabriel
@greggabe
No way Jones makes it to Giants at 17. They will have to trade up to get him if that is their guy
Jim Nagy
@JimNagy_SB
Replying to
@greggabe
You must be talking to some of the same people as me, Greg. NFL liked Jones more than most media types do
This buzz all started outside of Giants land, from reputable non giant sources after the pro day at Duke and grew after his visits with teams
To be clear Dave 'Te wasn't confirming there were 2 teams interested between 6 and 17, he was saying Gettleman lied.
The point is, which doesn't get talked about enough is that is not what matters. What actually matters is that at 6, with all the other quarterbacks not named Kyler Murray on the board, and several top defensive prospects including Josh Allen, that the Giants chose Daniel Jones. They could have picked any of the quarterbacks, and maybe they could have tried to play around and wait till 17, or trade up from 17 but they felt taking Jones at 6 was important enough because they valued him that much over the other quarterbacks. They had identified their player. That's what actually matters, they valued him that much that missing on him and settling on one of the other quarterbacks was not worth the risk. That's what Giants fans should be happy about. That's exactly why I didn't want a quarterback at 17. If there wasn't a guy that they thought could replace Manning, don't take him..go BPA, but don't get cute and try to get him at 17, because in reality it doesn't take 2 teams to like him, it only takes one, and now you are settling, you get the leftovers..and with quarterback especially I think that's a bad idea.
That's why I laugh at all the praise the Redskins got for Haskins. The Redskins sat and were prepared to take what fell to them, let Haskins go past several quarterback hungry teams and didn't make the effort to move up to secure him, yet now they are touting him as some great selection.
The Redskins either:
A)didn't believe any of the other quarterback hungry teams picking ahead of them thought highly enough of Haskins so they didn't need to move up.
B) Didn't think he was worth trading up for to secure they were able to select the quarterback of their choice.
C)Were prepared to select the highest rated quarterback that fell to them.
For me it looks pretty clear the Redskins went with option C, but none of those options are really a ringing endorsement for Dwayne Haskins and honestly make the Redskins look a bit foolish.
What is indisputable is that the Giants had a stronger conviction on their first round quarterback selection than the Redkskins did. Forget asshats, tweets, media reports or inside info..each teams actions on draft night told you this much.
Awesome! When do they hand out the Strongest Conviction Trophy?
Or continue, I don't care if you like looking the fool.
I know what Prisco was trying to suggest. But it's not uncommon for teams to like specific players. Whether they were/are enamored with a player - to make them a specific top of the board target - is a completely different proposition.
In my eyes, this is another article with a motive to assuage the narrative that Jones was over-drafted. I'm okay with that, but I read nothing convincing that makes Prisco's information more compelling than information that has suggested Jones was not highly coveted by any other teams than the Giants...
Or continue, I don't care if you like looking the fool.
I know what Prisco was trying to suggest. But it's not uncommon for teams to like specific players. Whether they were/are enamored with a player - to make them a specific top of the board target - is a completely different proposition.
In my eyes, this is another article with a motive to assuage the narrative that Jones was over-drafted. I'm okay with that, but I read nothing convincing that makes Prisco's information more compelling than information that has suggested Jones was not highly coveted by any other teams than the Giants...
Giants loved him obviously and didn't want to d*ck around.............