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It's very early, but this draft class is making some noise

Eric from BBI : Admin : 6/5/2019 8:43 pm
Based on comments, practice tidbits, and depth chart pecking order, the early returns on the 2019 draft class are looking good...

Daniel Jones... The weak arm argument appears to have been a myth. And the typical QB adjustment from college to the pros seems to be going more smoothly than normal.

Dexter Lawrence... all line-on-line drills are limited in the spring, but Lawrence is already penciled in as a starter and the coaches seem to love him. They have also been using him in pass-rush packages.

Deandre Baker... He has started opposite of Janoris Jenkins the past two days and has looked sharp.

Oshane Ximines... He actually saw some first-team reps today. Schmeelk has said he has impressed as a rusher.

Julian Love... coaches seem to love his versatility. Currently still stuck behind Grant Haley.

Ryan Connelly... Has received positive reviews from the coaches.

Darius Slayton... was criticized early for dropped passes but really has come on the last two days. Despite Auburn's offense, coaches have said he is running good routes and he appears to be getting deep and getting separation on a regular basis. Shula said some really nice things about him today.

Corey Ballentine... Recovered pretty quickly from gunshot wound. Saw some action with the second team today.

George Asafo-Adjei... Early in OTAs, he was getting some second-team reps.

Chris Slayton... has actually received some first-team reps in OTAs when other players were absent.
Way to early to say anything  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 6/5/2019 8:48 pm : link
Call me when they are practicing in shells at least.
This very well might be a franchise altering draft  
Jay on the Island : 6/5/2019 8:51 pm : link
Imagine how much better things would be if Gettleman actually had a plan! Sarcasm off
Well, you would hope so.  
Klaatu : 6/5/2019 9:00 pm : link
Considering how weak their competition is.
It's nice to have some hope  
arniefez : 6/5/2019 9:25 pm : link
the Giants desperately need a few good drafts.
Take it easy regarding Ximines  
ij_reilly : 6/5/2019 9:26 pm : link
Read Betcherrs remarks, pass rushers show the most growth in years 2 and 3.

Hes from a small school program. Thus far everything has been non contact. If you recall the comments after he was drafted, including his own, this year for him is about contributing on specials first and foremost. He needs to grow into the professional game.

Its great that he is adapting well. All good news, yes. But this year is not quite like Lorenzo Carters first year. He was as an SEC guy. Also a third round pick. X is from Old Dominion. It is not reasonable to expect him to play at the level Lorenzo Carter played last year.

Easy does it.
Weak arm appears to be a myth  
joeinpa : 6/5/2019 9:30 pm : link
And yet those who posted here about his weak arm prior to the draft, will continue in the future to post other myths about other prospects as fact, because of something they read on the internet

I watched him throw at his pro days and wondered why they spoke about a weak arm. But to be fair all these guys looked like they have strong arms to me.
It is very early. It's the time of year when every teams draft picks  
Ira : 6/5/2019 9:36 pm : link
look like future starters and even stars. Who knows - maybe it will turn out to be a good draft class. I just want to see how these guys look in pre-season and then when the games start to count. We certainly had a good draft class last year.
UDFA  
ChicagoMarty : 6/5/2019 11:06 pm : link
Mark Mclaurin making some noise as nickel backer taking some first-team reps in place of ILBs

It is early...  
Dan in the Springs : 6/5/2019 11:20 pm : link
But I think you're right, at least the top of the draft is well in its way to what we could hope for.

Hell, if we had only picked Baker I think we would all be feeling like the early reports are encouraging.

As you go down deeper into the draft the evidence gets weaker but that is to be expected.

This could turn into a very young and talented team this year, even if the growing pains mean we end up with a losing record. Anyone watching closely would have to admit that although the evidence is extremely limited, so far it's all been mostly positive.
The most intriguing thing to me about OX...  
Dan in the Springs : 6/5/2019 11:24 pm : link
Are the reports of his advanced hands and pass rush technique. If course it's way too early to anoint him as a good pick, but with what we've heard about him it wouldn't be too much of a surprise if he was getting regular snaps and flashing this year. Especially given how uncertain the edge rushers are.

At the same time, I haven't enjoyed hearing that they are taking it slow with Markus Golden. I thought he was ready to go, not needing special treatment. Wonder what that's all about.
RE: Take it easy regarding Ximines  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 6/5/2019 11:27 pm : link
In comment 14464358 ij_reilly said:
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Read Betcherrs remarks, pass rushers show the most growth in years 2 and 3.

Hes from a small school program. Thus far everything has been non contact. If you recall the comments after he was drafted, including his own, this year for him is about contributing on specials first and foremost. He needs to grow into the professional game.

Its great that he is adapting well. All good news, yes. But this year is not quite like Lorenzo Carters first year. He was as an SEC guy. Also a third round pick. X is from Old Dominion. It is not reasonable to expect him to play at the level Lorenzo Carter played last year.

Easy does it.


I hear you, but two things: (1) he got 1st-team reps today even with the top three guys practicing; (2) his pass rush techniques seem much more advanced than a typical rookie.
Lawrence and Baker seem to be a lock  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 6/6/2019 8:42 am : link
And DJ is showing it too. Conrad and Connolly seem to be really showing something, and everyone else is gravy.
RE: It is very early. It's the time of year when every teams draft picks  
Big Blue '56 : 6/6/2019 8:51 am : link
In comment 14464367 Ira said:
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look like future starters and even stars. Who knows - maybe it will turn out to be a good draft class. I just want to see how these guys look in pre-season and then when the games start to count. We certainly had a good draft class last year.


Period. Nothing more at this point.
I go back to your comments from  
RollBlue : 6/6/2019 8:55 am : link
the Summer of 2017 (which I agreed with) and then the whole thing imploded. I'm not getting hopes just to have a massive let down again. If they look after 3-4 weeks (mid October) then I'll getting excited.

This time of year there's almost always positives about the draft picks.
Bah..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 6/6/2019 8:55 am : link
when drafting 6th, you better get good players throughout the draft!

And yes, that was actually said after the draft to indicate drafting players high each round is a huge advantage so Gettleman's credit is limited.

We use some strange logic around here.
They used a 2019 3rd for Beale  
KeoweeFan : 6/6/2019 9:00 am : link
so I'd list him too; he looks like a "keeper".

As noted, CJ Conrad is making a great impression also.
And combine this with last years draft class  
Giantz_comeback : 6/6/2019 9:26 am : link
And this could be a 2 year run of prospects where we have nailed it.

Barkley, Hernandez, Carter (now rushing with a plan and flashed last year), BJ Hill (5.5 sacks and flashed even more than Carter as a rookie), RJ McIntosh (5th rounder who shows potential coming off illness)

Like you said Eric still early but a lot more positives and encouraging trends out of most of these guys than negatives so far.

Truthfully Slayton is the biggest surprise because this guy is constantly open. Constantly. If his hands keep improving wow...to get that kind of potential value in the 5th .

But I still remain cautious about the drops. Hands don't always improve.

The only guy in the negative column out of both drafts right now from round 5 of before is Lauletta. If the other guys keep developing and become contributors that is an amazing hit percentage for DG his first 2 drafts here.
RE: Lawrence and Baker seem to be a lock  
Giantz_comeback : 6/6/2019 9:28 am : link
In comment 14464586 Coach Red Beaulieu said:
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And DJ is showing it too. Conrad and Connolly seem to be really showing something, and everyone else is gravy.


Want to see Slayton , Connelly and Conrad with the 1s and in preseason against other teams . If they still flash then we can start to be even more encouraged.
There's  
English Alaister : 6/6/2019 10:23 am : link
No Sean Bennett here
One thing is clear with their two drafts  
JonC : 6/6/2019 10:31 am : link
they're targeting and going after the prospects they have a conviction for, now we just need to see them grow and perform on gameday.
Everyone is awesome! What an embarrassment of riches!  
Greg from LI : 6/6/2019 10:36 am : link
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RE: And combine this with last years draft class  
Big Blue '56 : 6/6/2019 10:39 am : link
In comment 14464628 Giantz_comeback said:
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And this could be a 2 year run of prospects where we have nailed it.

Barkley, Hernandez, Carter (now rushing with a plan and flashed last year), BJ Hill (5.5 sacks and flashed even more than Carter as a rookie), RJ McIntosh (5th rounder who shows potential coming off illness)

Like you said Eric still early but a lot more positives and encouraging trends out of most of these guys than negatives so far.

Truthfully Slayton is the biggest surprise because this guy is constantly open. Constantly. If his hands keep improving wow...to get that kind of potential value in the 5th .

But I still remain cautious about the drops. Hands don't always improve.

The only guy in the negative column out of both drafts right now from round 5 of before is Lauletta. If the other guys keep developing and become contributors that is an amazing hit percentage for DG his first 2 drafts here.


What?

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Truthfully Slayton is the biggest surprise because this guy is constantly open. Constantly. If his hands keep improving wow...to get that kind of potential value in the 5th .



Constantly open against shells and shorts and zero game-planning? And people call me the kook-aid fan..Come on, make it stop, until, at the very least, theres some contact. Even THEN, without game-planning, how do you judge?
RE: RE: And combine this with last years draft class  
Giantz_comeback : 6/6/2019 11:50 am : link
In comment 14464717 Big Blue '56 said:
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In comment 14464628 Giantz_comeback said:


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And this could be a 2 year run of prospects where we have nailed it.

Barkley, Hernandez, Carter (now rushing with a plan and flashed last year), BJ Hill (5.5 sacks and flashed even more than Carter as a rookie), RJ McIntosh (5th rounder who shows potential coming off illness)

Like you said Eric still early but a lot more positives and encouraging trends out of most of these guys than negatives so far.

Truthfully Slayton is the biggest surprise because this guy is constantly open. Constantly. If his hands keep improving wow...to get that kind of potential value in the 5th .

But I still remain cautious about the drops. Hands don't always improve.

The only guy in the negative column out of both drafts right now from round 5 of before is Lauletta. If the other guys keep developing and become contributors that is an amazing hit percentage for DG his first 2 drafts here.



What?



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Truthfully Slayton is the biggest surprise because this guy is constantly open. Constantly. If his hands keep improving wow...to get that kind of potential value in the 5th .





Constantly open against shells and shorts and zero game-planning? And people call me the kook-aid fan..Come on, make it stop, until, at the very least, theres some contact. Even THEN, without game-planning, how do you judge?


No doubt it's still early but he has shown quite well so far. And no one is anointing him Canton bound yet but for a 5th round pick from a run first program he is doing suprisingly well so far.

It isn't just the camp reports from Schmeelk etc either. Directly from the coaches mouth just a few minutes ago:

Dan Salomone
‏ @NYGsalomone

Shurmur thinks WR Darius Slayton has made huge strides. Hes the first guy that comes to mind when asked about standouts from the rookie class. Slayton had some drops in rookie camp but has smoothed out since then.

RE: Take it easy regarding Ximines  
NephilimGiants : 6/6/2019 11:56 am : link
In comment 14464358 ij_reilly said:
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Read Betcherrs remarks, pass rushers show the most growth in years 2 and 3.

Hes from a small school program. Thus far everything has been non contact. If you recall the comments after he was drafted, including his own, this year for him is about contributing on specials first and foremost. He needs to grow into the professional game.

Its great that he is adapting well. All good news, yes. But this year is not quite like Lorenzo Carters first year. He was as an SEC guy. Also a third round pick. X is from Old Dominion. It is not reasonable to expect him to play at the level Lorenzo Carter played last year.

Easy does it.

Thats good news, thanks for update. Ximines seems to have the the body of a 4-3 DE but with athletic of a 3-4lb so really rooting for him
They're building the right way  
Optimus-NY : 6/6/2019 1:54 pm : link
Inside Out. IF they got the QB right, then watch out.
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