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WR Darius Slayton - Darkhorse for the #3?

mittenedman : 6/5/2019 8:52 pm
One of the signs a rookie is going to be good is constantly making plays in practice. Everytime I read or watch a practice report it's Slayton getting behind the defense. Ran a 4.39 40 at 6'1" with 10" hands. Averaged over 20 ypc. Also a 4.15 short shuttle which is excellent and shows he is even more quick than fast. Played in a weird college offense.

We all know about the drops but is Slayton a guy who could emerge as the #3 WR? His deep speed is exactly what the Giants need in complement to Shep & Tate and he will get single coverage a lot which means ball.

If you look at the composition of the WR group, Latimer and Coleman are best as a #4/5 WRs - strong special teams players. Fowler also seems like a backup, and as a possession guy not a great 3rd wheel.

Seems to me there's some room for Slayton to "surprise" and steal that #3 spot, and add an element to the O. For the older fans - perhaps a bit of Ron Dixon in his game.
He could be.  
Klaatu : 6/5/2019 9:03 pm : link
He's got just as good a shot as anybody on the roster.
Why not for the #2  
section125 : 6/5/2019 9:06 pm : link
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Who knows. Maybe he's learning. The knocks on him have been his  
Ira : 6/5/2019 9:33 pm : link
hands and his route running. I wouldn't send him to Canton just yet.
You can't teach 6-1, 190, 4.39.  
since1925 : 6/5/2019 9:39 pm : link
He can take the top off the defense without catching a pass. He can create room for other wide outs without catching a pass.

And if he can catch an occasional pass. All the better.
RE: You can't teach 6-1, 190, 4.39.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 6/5/2019 10:51 pm : link
In comment 14464369 since1925 said:
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He can take the top off the defense without catching a pass.


That's not how that works. If nobody respects his ability to catch, the defense isn't going to care. You take the top off the defense by establishing that you can make plays.
Dark Horse? Maybe a long shot, but not a dark horse.  
81_Great_Dane : 6/5/2019 10:57 pm : link
A dark horse is a horse that is basically unknown but unexpectedly wins or succeeds. I don't think Slayton qualifies as a "dark horse." He was a draft pick, selected to do exactly what we are starting to see him do — get behind a defense and catch the ball. (The catching part is supposed to be a concern.) We know a lot about him. The pick has been thoroughly dissected. He's far from a dark horse.

Slayton is arguably a long shot just because he's a rookie and didn't come from a good college offense.

Alex Wesley, Brittan Golden or even Reggie White Jr. would be a dark horse for the #3 receiver spot.
He's got the speed, and . . . .  
TC : 6/5/2019 11:48 pm : link
he's got the moves, now does he have the hands? Hasn't throughout his school history. I believe he came from a track background, but most often if WR's don't have good hands, they don't get a lot better.
RE: Dark Horse? Maybe a long shot, but not a dark horse.  
Ira : 6/6/2019 6:58 am : link
In comment 14464461 81_Great_Dane said:
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A dark horse is a horse that is basically unknown but unexpectedly wins or succeeds. I don't think Slayton qualifies as a "dark horse." He was a draft pick, selected to do exactly what we are starting to see him do — get behind a defense and catch the ball. (The catching part is supposed to be a concern.) We know a lot about him. The pick has been thoroughly dissected. He's far from a dark horse.

Slayton is arguably a long shot just because he's a rookie and didn't come from a good college offense.

Alex Wesley, Brittan Golden or even Reggie White Jr. would be a dark horse for the #3 receiver spot.


White is the player I like for the #3 slot - long term that is. He's not as fast as Slayton, but has good speed and size plus good hands. He also seems like he has good character. If he's willing to put the work in, he could become a very good receiver.
Let's see him may plays in preseason  
ZogZerg : 6/6/2019 7:40 am : link
With pads, hitting, etc.
I can see him as a situational player until he develops
Every single time I read  
Tuckrule : 6/6/2019 7:44 am : link
an article or listen to a podcast I hear about his drops. He sadly reminds me of Tim carter and I said it the second he was drafted. 4.3 is great IF you can consistently catch the football.
RE: Every single time I read  
HoustonGiant : 6/6/2019 8:48 am : link
In comment 14464547 Tuckrule said:
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an article or listen to a podcast I hear about his drops. He sadly reminds me of Tim carter and I said it the second he was drafted. 4.3 is great IF you can consistently catch the football.


Two things:

1. Lou Holtz said they'd throw a bomb to Rocket at the beginning of every game. Not because he'd catch it, but because he'd make the defense adjust for it and then run the ball.

2. Slayton's biggest knock wasn't his hands, it was his production. However, a lot of sources say his production "lack" was because he had several good pass-catchers AND the QB couldn't get the ball that far down the field.

His a rookie, and fighting, and I'm sure he's nervous.
RE: Why not for the #2  
KeoweeFan : 6/6/2019 9:03 am : link
In comment 14464337 section125 said:
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That might come down to whether he can block as well as current #s 1 and 2.
Remember Ramses Barden?  
Josh in the City : 6/6/2019 9:03 am : link
He was an annual minicamp superstar. I wouldn't read too much into it until the games (even preseason) begin.
RE: RE: Every single time I read  
Tuckrule : 6/6/2019 9:16 am : link
In comment 14464589 HoustonGiant said:
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In comment 14464547 Tuckrule said:


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an article or listen to a podcast I hear about his drops. He sadly reminds me of Tim carter and I said it the second he was drafted. 4.3 is great IF you can consistently catch the football.



Two things:

1. Lou Holtz said they'd throw a bomb to Rocket at the beginning of every game. Not because he'd catch it, but because he'd make the defense adjust for it and then run the ball.

2. Slayton's biggest knock wasn't his hands, it was his production. However, a lot of sources say his production "lack" was because he had several good pass-catchers AND the QB couldn't get the ball that far down the field.

His a rookie, and fighting, and I'm sure he's nervous.


The knock wasn’t production. It was his hands. The auburn offense is known as a basic offense which doesn’t showcase the qb or skill players. It’s really outdated see Mike Lombardi’s quotes about it.
Slayton was known to have a horrible catch rate  
Ten Ton Hammer : 6/6/2019 9:18 am : link
His hands were absolutely a knock.
Not at all down on him overall, but  
Bob in Newburgh : 6/6/2019 11:34 am : link
he is not going to produce in 2019.

The negatives associated with his name are not the type of things that WRs overcome in a few weeks playing against air.

Giants problem is going to be that both Latimer and Fowler will have more total value to wins in 2019, yet the organization is not going to want to lose Slayton or Wesley as developmental players.
I see him as #3 slot receiver  
NephilimGiants : 6/6/2019 11:44 am : link
Behind Shepard and Tate at slot, Giants still need two receivers that can line up outside. Our slot is stacked though
RE: Slayton was known to have a horrible catch rate  
Klaatu : 6/6/2019 11:46 am : link
In comment 14464616 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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His hands were absolutely a knock.


38%. No other Auburn receiver had a catch rate less than 60%.
Slayton..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 6/6/2019 11:46 am : link
will likely not be featured in the slot very often if at all.

He's a speed threat with questionable hands. The worst fit for a WR is to put a guy with bad hands running routes where he's flanked by LB's, DB's and DL
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 6/6/2019 11:48 am : link

Dan Salomone @NYGsalomone

Shurmur thinks WR Darius Slayton has made huge strides. “He’s the first guy that comes to mind” when asked about standouts from the rookie class. Slayton had some drops in rookie camp but has “smoothed” out since then.
You just hope his hands can become  
Giantz_comeback : 6/6/2019 11:54 am : link
Good enough that people have to respect his speed and stay on him.

The hands were worse than Butlers. But he is showing he can seperate which is obviously one of the most critical skills for a WR.

Hands can improve , how much remains to be seen.
The good ol' days...  
Klaatu : 6/6/2019 11:56 am : link
ah, yes, Fred  
ColHowPepper : 6/6/2019 3:24 pm : link
now HE hands!!

Some really weird comments here???
FMiC absolutely correct: Slayton in the slot? Alliterative but no chance, he'd be eaten alive, crushed by the LBs and Ss and booed off the field.

Ramses Barden? No. Ramses was supposed to be the missing piece when Plax went off his rail: big, big target that Eli could find. Barden and Beckum in the 3rd. oofff. Plax was big, he *could* catch, wily son-of-a-gun, but he was not a speedster, like Slayton. Barden did nothing.
If he makes a few long receptons  
TMS : 6/7/2019 1:51 pm : link
He will keep everybody secondary honest. Good gamble by DG imo.
RE: Remember Ramses Barden?  
VinegarPeppers : 6/7/2019 2:16 pm : link
I wouldn't go that far either but Barden didn't have this kid's speed and this kid didn't have Barden's 6'4 frame.


In comment 14464602 Josh in the City said:
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He was an annual minicamp superstar. I wouldn't read too much into it until the games (even preseason) begin.
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