Tonight's lineup vs Colorado
2B Jeff McNeil
1B Pete Alonso
RF Michael Conforto
LF Dominic Smith
C Wilson Ramos
3B Todd Frazier
SS Amed Rosario
CF Juan Lagares
RHP Jacob deGrom
The Rockies are coming in hot but McNeil is back and hitting, Dom and Alonso are in the same lineup, and the Cy Young winner is going. Could be worse! Love the lineup tonight! Let’s take this series before the Subway series next week! LGM!
Ramos, Cano, centerfielders, are killing this team. Rosario needs to be better but he’s fine if we didn’t have black holes in half the lineup.
But if the BP wasn’t horrific, this team would be in the mix if not leading the division.
Just because you can't comprehend it doesn't mean it defies comprehension.
Kelenic is 19 years old and OPS-ing over .900 between A and A+ ball.
He is right now the 42nd ranked prospect and plays a premium position.
at 19 Alonso was a freshman at Florida and in NCAA, not pro-ball he OPS'd .719
Alonso is 5 years older than Kelenic and plays a non-premium position.
At 19, Kelenic is OPS-ing a better clip than Alonso did at the same level. And Alonso was 22, not 19 when he was at that level.
Alonso's power is great, and he seems like a good kid, but it's like saying you'd prefer Chris Davis to Mike Trout because Davis hits 50 HR's.
Still. Things seem to be settling down. Familia has been better. Lugo is back. Gsellman is pretty good when Mickey's not being grinding into the ground. Wilson should be back soon. I really dont even hate Font has the long man and Gagnon in the mix as maybe the 6th guy.
It can use a guy at the deadline, sure, but I could also see this exact unit coming together without many changes.
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I find it hard to believe that even now you would prefer an A-ball prospect to be more valuable than Alonso. That's so ridiculous that it defies comprehension.
Just because you can't comprehend it doesn't mean it defies comprehension.
Kelenic is 19 years old and OPS-ing over .900 between A and A+ ball.
He is right now the 42nd ranked prospect and plays a premium position.
at 19 Alonso was a freshman at Florida and in NCAA, not pro-ball he OPS'd .719
Alonso is 5 years older than Kelenic and plays a non-premium position.
At 19, Kelenic is OPS-ing a better clip than Alonso did at the same level. And Alonso was 22, not 19 when he was at that level.
Alonso's power is great, and he seems like a good kid, but it's like saying you'd prefer Chris Davis to Mike Trout because Davis hits 50 HR's.
Not looking to argue but that's a really bad comparison man. You are going back to compare Alonso's upside years ago to Kelenic's now? Alonso has a .950 OPS in the majors right now year one of this control. What difference does it make what his upside was years ago in A ball. You are saying you would trade away a .950 OPS bat in the majors for a .900 bat in single A? The age thing doesnt matter either. Both teams will get a player for 6 years of control. Neither will be passed their prime at the end of that. If anything, it will likely be harder to re-sign Kelenic if he ends up a star and that will end up past the value of the trade anyway.
Well, C ya tomorrow.
Ramos, Cano, centerfielders, are killing this team. Rosario needs to be better but he’s fine if we didn’t have black holes in half the lineup.
But if the BP wasn’t horrific, this team would be in the mix if not leading the division.
IF it wasn’t the BP it would be something else, face it, this team stinks.
I would think maybe they could get some intl' bonus money for players like Frazier, Vargas, and maybe a C level prospect.
But I think we should seriously consider trading Syndergaard and Wheeler. We could probably get a haul.
I want to do what the Yankees did with Chapman with Wheeler. Trade him and then re-sign him. I think Wheelers to the Cubs for their catcher prosepct Amaya, and maybe Ian Happ and a third piece would do it for me. Then we can try to resign him in the off-season.
Last year Chris Archer had 3 years of control and brought back what at the time was viewed as a decent package, but was also risky bc both top prospects whose progress stalled at the MLB level kind of like Dom Smith and carried potential bust labels - though they have both ended up breaking out for TB.
I will say this though, similarly BVW's best move of the offseason was JD Davis. If there's another of those types of 4A guys out there who plays either CF or SP, and you have the chance to get that guy for Wheeler, I think you do it - if they are still out of it.
I don't think you do that for Thor though. If the Padres put a stud like Gore on the table maybe you consider it but supposedly they were unwilling to do that last offseason so I doubt that's changed now.
More than anything they need to just end it already with Callaway. The team is lifeless and lethargic, just like he is. He is numb to losing and that's how the team seems. They need a better leader - period. Good leadership can change everything.
It used to be you would generally get two first rounders (one a sandwich pick)
So, teams looking to acquire a player had to offer more in value than two firsts. They were also more willing to do it because they could in turn get two firsts if the player waled
I would think maybe they could get some intl' bonus money for players like Frazier, Vargas, and maybe a C level prospect.
But I think we should seriously consider trading Syndergaard and Wheeler. We could probably get a haul.
I want to do what the Yankees did with Chapman with Wheeler. Trade him and then re-sign him. I think Wheelers to the Cubs for their catcher prosepct Amaya, and maybe Ian Happ and a third piece would do it for me. Then we can try to resign him in the off-season.
The overvalue of Wheeler on here astounds me. What has he done aside from hover slightly above mediocrity? Can’t pitch past the 6th inning. That’s not a stud ace to me. Heck Thor rarely does that either and already looks to have list some luster on his fastball.
Neither are the aces that media touted them to be prematurely. Good luck getting anything great for an expiring contract no3-4 starter w injury history.
And good luck getting more than maybe one top prospect for Thor at this stage.p unless he goes on a tear and then why would you trade him? He has a couple left of control
And Thor lost some zip on his fastball - I think his average fastball is ranked right behind Vargas for starters, right?
Second, Thor missed almost all of 2016 and half of last year. By the time he built up that necessary burn where you start to see a tick or two more the season was over.
If he's healthy all season Im guessing he's still tickling 100 mph routinely in another month or two.
And pitched most of 2018.
you can explain it any way you want.
I read that the Mets don't want Syndergaard consistently throwing 100 anymore. At one point there was a stat in 2016 he had the most 100mph pitches by like 100 or more over 2nd place (who might have even been someone like Chapman as a reliever). I'll try and dig it up, but I'm not going to look too hard b/c it doesn't matter really. Results are what they are.
But, it was crazy how far ahead of any other starting pitcher he was with 100mph pitches.
My personal belief is last year Eiland/Callaway instituted this to help "save" his arm. And I'll also look for the article on this, but again, I'm not looking too hard because it doesn't matter.
but I do think the velocity decrease has impacted his effectiveness.
April 2017 Syndergaard was throwing harder than September 2018 so your theory is not fact-based wrt to Syndergaard's available facts.
2015. 97.7
2016. 98.9 (only full healthy season in the majors)
2017. 99.5 (SSS missed most of the year)
2018. 98.1 (Half season)
2019. 98.3 (2 months and a week or so)
Is this really even worth discussing?
but he would consistently hit it in almost every game.
now he rarely does.
If you don't think velocity makes a difference or if there is no difference in velocity it's a cold weather/warm weathe rthing then sure, it's moot not worth discussion but it's not just the average that's important, it's the peaks, he's struggling to put batters away.
his sinker velocity is lower too.
What has been the problem or do you feel like he's just his usual self?
And his FB has been flat
What's more likely? He is struggling a bit because he isnt changing speeds as well and doesnt have that ridiculous Warthen slider he threw in 2016 anymore which was a ++ pitch or he is 6/10ths of one MPH off his fastball average from his best season ever?
And his FB has been flat
Yup. Its like he completely forgot how to put run on the fastball and very specifically how to throw his slider. Change comes and goes too and that was very effective for a while. Im not seeing any issues with his velocity though. The guy is hitting 99 or so in almost every start.
And his FB has been flat
Losing velocity on the FB makes the secondary pitches less effective.
Pedro talks all the time about this topic. he explains how it makes Syndergaard specifically so effective (he did in 2016 at least). He talks at length about the gap between a 101 mph fastball and a low 90's slider. not to mention a change up or straight curve like Syndergaard has.
As that gap lessens it makes it harder for those secondary pitches to be effective - less margin for error.
just my opinion.
Agree and his change up, but read this from Altuve about Syndergaard in Spring training 2018, if you don't think to major league hitters velocity matters:
"His stuff is as good at it comes in baseball," Brian McCann said. "He's in that one percent of the league that can…his slider's at 93, the fastball is 100, the change-up right up there with anyone.
"You get up there and you've gotta be aggressive because when a guy has three put-away pitches, you don't want to let him get to two strikes."
To that, Altuve explained how Syndergaard's changeup got him looking, too frozen to offer a swing.
"That was a great changeup," Altuve said afterward, his eyes widening as he spoke. "If he throws me that changeup 100 times, he's going to strike me out 100 times."
Because of the deception or the movement, the Astros' second baseman was asked.
"I mean, the guy throws 101," Altuve said, as if no other explanation was necessary.
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