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NFT: Who else doesn't care for tomato sauce on their spaghetti?

Klaatu : 6/8/2019 10:33 am
Sicilian here, and while tomato sauce (or "red sauce," if you prefer) and its variations (like Bolognese sauce) has its place in quite a few pasta dishes, my preferences on spaghetti have always been just garlic and oil (aglio e oglio), or cheese and pepper (cacio e pepe), or my Nonna's legendary spaghetti with fried cauliflower. A plain Marinara sauce? No thanks. I'll save that for pizza (with a ton of oregano).
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Where’s the gravy?  
mattlawson : 6/8/2019 10:41 am : link
-Paulie
They both work for me. If I don't add a tomato based sauce, I like  
Ira : 6/8/2019 10:42 am : link
to saute the pasta in olive oil with a little garlic, oregano and chopped roasted cashews. Chopped olives and/or artichoke hearts are optional. I stir in some grated parmesan after the flame is off and before I take it out of the pot.
If you’re giving me marinara on spaghetti  
dep026 : 6/8/2019 10:44 am : link
Chunky marinara or with plum tomatoes.
With you on this.  
DanBenton : 6/8/2019 10:48 am : link
Prefer oil and garlic to tomato sauce on spaghetti, and ideally avoid thin spaghetti entirely.
I like a nice marinara, and if made right,  
Section331 : 6/8/2019 11:01 am : link
it is anything but “plain”. Other non-tomato choices would be a nice pesto.
My organs  
Gman11 : 6/8/2019 11:06 am : link
don't function if I go too long without tomato sauce.
if you ad cream, white wine and a little chicken stock to your  
gtt350 : 6/8/2019 11:25 am : link
oil and garlic you have a terrific Sicilian Gatto Pardo sauce
see chef Nick Stellino  
gtt350 : 6/8/2019 11:26 am : link
oh and red pepper flakes, two diamonds up!
Thanks, gtt350. I'll try that next time around.  
Klaatu : 6/8/2019 11:31 am : link
Nick Stellino is a trip. He reminds me of my late Uncle Joe.
Not a big tomato sauce fan.  
Jim in Fairfax : 6/8/2019 11:35 am : link
Aglio e olio is my go to. Though lately I’ve been onto cacio e pepe.
Spaghetti  
JPinstripes : 6/8/2019 11:38 am : link
with fresh garlic, olive oil and crushed red pepper flakes topped with shaved Ricotta Salata is my "go to" quick Spaghetti dish.
This thread is as un-American as it gets.  
BlueLou'sBack : 6/8/2019 11:46 am : link
I was always suspicious of a guy with a handle like "Klaatu" that something subversive could be in play...

I also can't believe we got 20 responses deep into this thread and not a single response mentions pesto.

If you make a good pesto, and it's easy in a food processor or blender, (forget Nonna's grind it in a mortar and pestle hours long concoction!) and keep it in jars with a thin film of EVOO over the surface, it keeps for quite a while.

That's my go-to pasta sauce.
Carbonara  
Canton : 6/8/2019 11:47 am : link


The ingredients are to die for..

Also  
BlueLou'sBack : 6/8/2019 11:49 am : link
Bolognese is NOT "a variation of tomato sauce!"


Heaven forbid.
It all depends on what's cooking  
idiotsavant : 6/8/2019 11:50 am : link
Sometimes less is more, as just above, or with clams as on the other thread, or garlic / olive oil or butter/salt one might make for the kids, or oneself.

But, by all means, the tomatoes, even canned or jarred is a staple.

Sometimes just have it as soup ++ stuff, or just drink it.. obviously for those with herbs growing, add that your in like Flynn.
My kids  
pjcas18 : 6/8/2019 11:52 am : link
wouldn't eat sauce on their pasta until they were grown up.

Don't feel bad.
If you shop on price  
idiotsavant : 6/8/2019 11:55 am : link
This stuff can stretch a dollar. It's an option but the canned isn't such as for guests, it's more like weekday dinner.
RE: Carbonara  
smshmth8690 : 6/8/2019 12:04 pm : link
In comment 14466757 Canton said:
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The ingredients are to die for..


Pet peeve, the 'Carbonara' in that picture has no visual evidence of either Black Pepper, or Egg, hence it is a fraud!!!!
RE: This thread is as un-American as it gets.  
Klaatu : 6/8/2019 12:06 pm : link
In comment 14466756 BlueLou'sBack said:
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I was always suspicious of a guy with a handle like "Klaatu" that something subversive could be in play...

I also can't believe we got 20 responses deep into this thread and not a single response mentions pesto.

If you make a good pesto, and it's easy in a food processor or blender, (forget Nonna's grind it in a mortar and pestle hours long concoction!) and keep it in jars with a thin film of EVOO over the surface, it keeps for quite a while.

That's my go-to pasta sauce.


Section331 mentioned pest at 11:01 am.
Tastes great  
Bill in UT : 6/8/2019 12:12 pm : link
either way. Why cut a great option out of you life? Go to other pastas, like ravioli, and you can add brown butter and other sauces.
..  
Named Later : 6/8/2019 12:13 pm : link
I don't particularly like the basic Tomato Sauce on Spaghetti/Linguini. I usually take the acidic edge off of it with a dash of half & half while it simmers.

Dear Wife found a recipe for Pasta with Roasted Tomatoes and Garlic. Delish....

Pass the Vino - ( New Window )
There are good jarred variations of tomato sauce - the  
BlueLou'sBack : 6/8/2019 12:14 pm : link
Barilla brand or Trader Joe's or Newman's Own - but the plethora of jarred sauces that have sugar or corn syrup added in significant amounts is a turn off for me. So of course I make my own in large batches and jar it myself. It helps we have a nice herb garden or wild herbs growing near us, in particular one called Za'atar in Israel. Still not sure if it is a local Hyssop or what research tells me is Syrian Oregano, but it's less bitter and milder than typical American Oregano. Something in-between oregano and marjoram I suppose.

I use copious amounts of of Zaatar - along with fresh rosemary, thyme and actual classic oregano - in my home made tomato sauce. I long ago learned to stop bothering with picking off the leaves, and just throw bouquets of the garden herbs in the sauce while it cooks. I then fish those herbs out after the sauce cools a bit and before I blend it with a stick blender.

I might add a couple of tablespoons of sugar to the sauce (a 3 quart batch typically) if it seems the canned tomatoes I used weren't ripe enough during blending, but never more than that. Lots of onions and fresh garlic too, and only top notch EVOO.

My kids love it, though sometimes they want pesto or our version of creamy cheese sauce.
RE: Also  
Bill in UT : 6/8/2019 12:14 pm : link
In comment 14466759 BlueLou'sBack said:
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Bolognese is NOT "a variation of tomato sauce!"


Heaven forbid.


What a bunch of dummies on this board, Lou. How do they not know that bolognese is a variation of chili? And I was gonna mention pesto, but you beat me to it.
K - I stand corrected about that 11:01 post.  
BlueLou'sBack : 6/8/2019 12:16 pm : link
331 slipped pesto in under the wire.
Get bent, food cops.  
Klaatu : 6/8/2019 12:20 pm : link
If it has tomatoes in it, it's a variation to me, and I'd just rather not eat it.
RE: RE: Also  
smshmth8690 : 6/8/2019 12:23 pm : link
In comment 14466786 Bill in UT said:
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In comment 14466759 BlueLou'sBack said:


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Bolognese is NOT "a variation of tomato sauce!"


Heaven forbid.



What a bunch of dummies on this board, Lou. How do they not know that bolognese is a variation of chili? And I was gonna mention pesto, but you beat me to it.


Well done sir, my hat is off to you.
I do enjoy a good red sauce (just about any variation)  
Matt M. : 6/8/2019 12:23 pm : link
on pasta. But one of the best dishes I ever had was a simple spaghetti type pasta (but not spaghetti) with a touch of Ligurian olive oil, garlice, and lemon with fresh ramps. Out of this world.
RE: RE: Also  
BlueLou'sBack : 6/8/2019 12:24 pm : link
In comment 14466786 Bill in UT said:
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In comment 14466759 BlueLou'sBack said:


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Bolognese is NOT "a variation of tomato sauce!"


Heaven forbid.



What a bunch of dummies on this board, Lou. How do they not know that bolognese is a variation of chili? And I was gonna mention pesto, but you beat me to it.


Darn it! I always thought chili was kinda spicy Bolognese with beans... except I never grind beef for chili but prefer chunks cooked until they start to fall apart.

I knew one Italian chef who never pre-ground his beef for "Bolognese" either, but in fairness he called it "meat ragu", not bolognese.
More of a vodka sauce man  
Anakim : 6/8/2019 12:26 pm : link
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RE: Get bent, food cops.  
Bill in UT : 6/8/2019 12:35 pm : link
In comment 14466792 Klaatu said:
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If it has tomatoes in it, it's a variation to me, and I'd just rather not eat it.



ah, an admitted lycopersicumophobe
my go-to sauce lately  
Bill in UT : 6/8/2019 12:43 pm : link
has been Lidia Bastianich's simple marinara. I throw it in the blender to get the texture I want and add a little baking soda at the end if my tomatoes are too acidic.

1/4 CUP -EXTRA--VIRGIN OLIVE OIL
7 GARLIC CLOVES, PEELED AND SLICED
28--OUNCE CAN WHOLE SAN MARZANO TOMATOES, CRUSHED BY HAND
PINCH CRUSHED -RED--PEPPER FLAKES
1 TEASPOON KOSHER SALT
1 FRESH BASIL SPRIG
Directions
In a large skillet, over medium heat, heat the olive oil. When the oil is hot, add the garlic. Once the garlic is sizzling, add the tomatoes, slosh out the can with 1 cup water, and add that as well. Sprinkle in the -red–pepper flakes, and season with the salt. Submerge the basil sprig in the sauce.
Simmer the sauce until it is slightly thickened, about 15 minutes. Discard the basil.
Lidia's stuff  
Jimmy Googs : 6/8/2019 12:51 pm : link
is the goods...
RE: This thread is as un-American as it gets.  
Section331 : 6/8/2019 12:52 pm : link
In comment 14466756 BlueLou'sBack said:
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I was always suspicious of a guy with a handle like "Klaatu" that something subversive could be in play...

I also can't believe we got 20 responses deep into this thread and not a single response mentions pesto.

If you make a good pesto, and it's easy in a food processor or blender, (forget Nonna's grind it in a mortar and pestle hours long concoction!) and keep it in jars with a thin film of EVOO over the surface, it keeps for quite a while.

That's my go-to pasta sauce.


I was response #5, and I mentioned pesto.
RE: My kids  
Section331 : 6/8/2019 12:53 pm : link
In comment 14466762 pjcas18 said:
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wouldn't eat sauce on their pasta until they were grown up.

Don't feel bad.


So you’re saying Klaatu isn’t grown up yet?
RE: RE: Get bent, food cops.  
Klaatu : 6/8/2019 12:59 pm : link
In comment 14466799 Bill in UT said:
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In comment 14466792 Klaatu said:


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If it has tomatoes in it, it's a variation to me, and I'd just rather not eat it.




ah, an admitted lycopersicumophobe


Nope. No problem with the "T" in a BLT, or in a Caprese salad. Just not on my spaghetti.
I only eat tomatoe sauce  
JPinstripes : 6/8/2019 1:05 pm : link
on my Spaghetti if I'm eating Spaghetti and Meatballs, which by the way is probably my favorite dish to both cook and eat in the entire world.

I love my Spaghetti and Meatballs - first fry the Meatballs of course, then drop half of them into the sauce for another 30 minutes on a low flame and pour over the Spaghetti... #FOODPORN
I don't mind sauce but not drowning  
jgambrosio : 6/8/2019 1:09 pm : link
I grew up on my dad's gravy - really thick with onions, peppers garlic as the base and mostly crushed, diced and tomato paste cooked down, small amount of sauce in comparison, cooked down the entire weekendd and eventually meatballs, sausage and sometimes a cheesecloth wrapped chicken in. All it needed was to coat the pasta for what you needed. Just enough to wipe your plate clean with some bread after.
RE: I only eat tomatoe sauce  
BlueLou'sBack : 6/8/2019 1:11 pm : link
In comment 14466820 JPinstripes said:
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on my Spaghetti if I'm eating Spaghetti and Meatballs, which by the way is probably my favorite dish to both cook and eat in the entire world.

I love my Spaghetti and Meatballs - first fry the Meatballs of course, then drop half of them into the sauce for another 30 minutes on a low flame and pour over the Spaghetti... #FOODPORN


Well, I hope at least you leave out the toes...
LOL  
JPinstripes : 6/8/2019 1:15 pm : link
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RE: RE: RE: Also  
smshmth8690 : 6/8/2019 1:26 pm : link
In comment 14466795 BlueLou'sBack said:
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In comment 14466786 Bill in UT said:


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In comment 14466759 BlueLou'sBack said:


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Bolognese is NOT "a variation of tomato sauce!"


Heaven forbid.



What a bunch of dummies on this board, Lou. How do they not know that bolognese is a variation of chili? And I was gonna mention pesto, but you beat me to it.



Darn it! I always thought chili was kinda spicy Bolognese with beans... except I never grind beef for chili but prefer chunks cooked until they start to fall apart.

I knew one Italian chef who never pre-ground his beef for "Bolognese" either, but in fairness he called it "meat ragu", not bolognese.


Meat ragu, great variations here. I've done lamb, duck, and wild boar, not all at the same time, but separate. Odd though, for some reason the duck, and boar we called Sugo, but lamb, beef, and pork get the Ragu name.

I also do variations of Bolognese. Tonight I've got an Octopus Bolognese, ground Octopus, Prosciutto, Tomato, Cream, Butter, and a little Veal Stock. Yes, we put cheese on it too.
RE: RE: I only eat tomatoe sauce  
Bill in UT : 6/8/2019 1:26 pm : link
In comment 14466824 BlueLou'sBack said:
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In comment 14466820 JPinstripes said:


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on my Spaghetti if I'm eating Spaghetti and Meatballs, which by the way is probably my favorite dish to both cook and eat in the entire world.

I love my Spaghetti and Meatballs - first fry the Meatballs of course, then drop half of them into the sauce for another 30 minutes on a low flame and pour over the Spaghetti... #FOODPORN



Well, I hope at least you leave out the toes...


yeah, so Quayleian
RE: RE: RE: RE: Also  
Bill in UT : 6/8/2019 1:29 pm : link
In comment 14466832 smshmth8690 said:
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Tonight I've got an Octopus Bolognese, ground Octopus, Prosciutto, Tomato, Cream, Butter, and a little Veal Stock. Yes, we put cheese on it too.


Who the hell thinks of making octopus bolognese? God bless you. At least I know what to do with my leftover octopus now :)
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BlueLou'sBack : 6/8/2019 1:37 pm : link
In comment 14466835 Bill in UT said:
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In comment 14466832 smshmth8690 said:


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Tonight I've got an Octopus Bolognese, ground Octopus, Prosciutto, Tomato, Cream, Butter, and a little Veal Stock. Yes, we put cheese on it too.



Who the hell thinks of making octopus bolognese? God bless you. At least I know what to do with my leftover octopus now :)


Drew cooks with a decidedly Cajun influence (his restaurant - Drew's Bayshore Bistro in Keyport, NJ is excellent and balanced between Cajun and French bistro traditions).

So seafood plus meat (especially cured or smoked pork meat) for him is like what Forrest Gump said about himself and Jenny - "like peas and carrots."

;-)
RE: RE: I only eat tomatoe sauce  
Klaatu : 6/8/2019 1:53 pm : link
In comment 14466824 BlueLou'sBack said:
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In comment 14466820 JPinstripes said:


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on my Spaghetti if I'm eating Spaghetti and Meatballs, which by the way is probably my favorite dish to both cook and eat in the entire world.

I love my Spaghetti and Meatballs - first fry the Meatballs of course, then drop half of them into the sauce for another 30 minutes on a low flame and pour over the Spaghetti... #FOODPORN



Well, I hope at least you leave out the toes...




Can I eat the toes? Can I eat the toes?
Give me evoo & garlic with a touch of basil & oregano  
bigblue1124 : 6/8/2019 1:59 pm : link
Every day of the week rather than marinara. Now if we are talking gravy that's another thread.

30 years I have been a chef and always scratch my my head why people want just pasta and sauce. Marinara is a mother sauce imo and you take it from there. Kid's being the only exception.
RE: I only eat tomatoe sauce  
bigblue1124 : 6/8/2019 2:55 pm : link
In comment 14466820 JPinstripes said:
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on my Spaghetti if I'm eating Spaghetti and Meatballs, which by the way is probably my favorite dish to both cook and eat in the entire world.

I love my Spaghetti and Meatballs - first fry the Meatballs of course, then drop half of them into the sauce for another 30 minutes on a low flame and pour over the Spaghetti... #FOODPORN


You DO NOT FRY a meatball, pan sear, roast? I really hope that was a typo.
What grinds my gears  
CRinCA : 6/8/2019 3:06 pm : link
Is when I see "cream" listed as a carbonara ingredient on restaurant menus. Blasphemy!
RE: RE: I only eat tomatoe sauce  
Klaatu : 6/8/2019 3:18 pm : link
In comment 14466892 bigblue1124 said:
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In comment 14466820 JPinstripes said:


Quote:


on my Spaghetti if I'm eating Spaghetti and Meatballs, which by the way is probably my favorite dish to both cook and eat in the entire world.

I love my Spaghetti and Meatballs - first fry the Meatballs of course, then drop half of them into the sauce for another 30 minutes on a low flame and pour over the Spaghetti... #FOODPORN



You DO NOT FRY a meatball, pan sear, roast? I really hope that was a typo.


RE: RE: I only eat tomatoe sauce  
Bill in UT : 6/8/2019 3:43 pm : link
In comment 14466892 bigblue1124 said:
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You DO NOT FRY a meatball, pan sear, roast? I really hope that was a typo.


I'm constantly looking for the perfect meatball flavor, texture, moistness. I've pan seared, roasted and even deep fried, but I don't think it brings much to the party for me. I've gone back to just cooking them in the sauce.
We roast our meatballs in oven  
Jimmy Googs : 6/8/2019 3:59 pm : link
For 30 minutes at 450. Then submerge in gravy and put gravy pot into oven to finish cooking.

Nobody at Googs home goes hungry...
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