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NGT: Jets talking to Todd McShay about assistant GM

Giantsfan79 : 6/8/2019 2:35 pm
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ESPN analyst Todd McShay says he is under consideration for a job under new Jets General Manager Joe Douglas.

“Joe is considering multiple options and I’m one of the options,” McShay told Rich Cimini of ESPN.

McShay and Douglas were teammates for two years at the University of Richmond, so the two have known each other a long time. McShay has no experience working in an NFL front office.


What will Mel do without his pal?
HAHAHA  
Jay on the Island : 6/8/2019 2:37 pm : link
McShay? JFC they can't be serious.
GTFO  
Optimus-NY : 6/8/2019 2:40 pm : link
Bloody Hell...
...  
Jay on the Island : 6/8/2019 2:46 pm : link
"Incredible move if true. McShay is a genius and by far the best scouting mind of his generation." - fanofthejets
I wonder  
scouser : 6/8/2019 2:50 pm : link
if they're talking to Ross, also.
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Klaatu : 6/8/2019 2:50 pm : link
In comment 14466886 Jay on the Island said:
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"Incredible move if true. McShay is a genius and by far the best scouting mind of his generation." - fanofthejets


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Mike in NY : 6/8/2019 3:00 pm : link
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 6/8/2019 3:01 pm : link
In comment 14466886 Jay on the Island said:
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"Incredible move if true. McShay is a genius and by far the best scouting mind of his generation." - fanofthejets


Yeah, I'm sure he'll chime in when his folks allow him some computer time.
Kiper said he's available  
gtt350 : 6/8/2019 3:06 pm : link
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"a job" is different than assistant GM.  
robbieballs2003 : 6/8/2019 3:20 pm : link
Is it definitely reported that it is for assistant GM?
Now THAT  
Big Blue '56 : 6/8/2019 3:21 pm : link
is funny
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Klaatu : 6/8/2019 3:21 pm : link
In comment 14466897 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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In comment 14466886 Jay on the Island said:


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"Incredible move if true. McShay is a genius and by far the best scouting mind of his generation." - fanofthejets



Yeah, I'm sure he'll chime in when his folks allow him some computer time.


Give him some time. He's probably still sleeping off the Spaghetti-O's and Hawaiian Punch.
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Jay on the Island : 6/8/2019 3:30 pm : link
In comment 14466897 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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In comment 14466886 Jay on the Island said:


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"Incredible move if true. McShay is a genius and by far the best scouting mind of his generation." - fanofthejets



Yeah, I'm sure he'll chime in when his folks allow him some computer time.

This kid said that he didn't want Le'Veon Bell in FA before the Jets signed him. After they did sign Bell he raved about the hire because they got him "cheap".
If you know the backstory of how McShay got his job at ESPN  
Zeke's Alibi : 6/8/2019 3:32 pm : link
you would see how much of a joke this is. I am now convinced meritocracy is a myth.
RE: If you know the backstory of how McShay got his job at ESPN  
Klaatu : 6/8/2019 3:33 pm : link
In comment 14466921 Zeke's Alibi said:
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you would see how much of a joke this is. I am now convinced meritocracy is a myth.


I don't know McShay's backstory. What is it?
What is even  
XBRONX : 6/8/2019 3:44 pm : link
funnier is that Jerry Reese was a GM for 10 years.
RE: What is even  
Jay on the Island : 6/8/2019 3:47 pm : link
In comment 14466928 XBRONX said:
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funnier is that Jerry Reese was a GM for 10 years.

In which he won 2 superbowls.
Todd McShay  
Jay on the Island : 6/8/2019 3:51 pm : link
has never worked for an NFL franchise. IIRC he has never worked for any college program either.


He attended the University of Richmond, where he was a walk-on for the Spiders in 1995 and served as a scout-team quarterback[4] before sustaining a back injury that ended his college career.

McShay had worked as an undergraduate team equipment manager at the University of Richmond before landing an internship with former NFL scout Gary Horton in 1998. Following graduation, McShay worked full-time for "The War Room", (1999–2006) a start-up publication created by Horton eventually bought by ESPN and renamed "Scouts Inc."

He joined ESPN in 2006 as a football analyst, providing in-depth scouting information on college football players across the country.


Link - ( New Window )
RE: RE: If you know the backstory of how McShay got his job at ESPN  
Zeke's Alibi : 6/8/2019 3:53 pm : link
In comment 14466922 Klaatu said:
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In comment 14466921 Zeke's Alibi said:


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you would see how much of a joke this is. I am now convinced meritocracy is a myth.



I don't know McShay's backstory. What is it?


He was an intern or PA or whatever at ESPN and they decided to have a foil to Mel Kiper and choose him. Dude knew absolutely nothing and they gave him a year long crash course. He has gotten a bit better throughout the years, but his first year was an absolute joke. Just shows you how networking has become more important than ever and no one actually cares if you can do a job anymore. I mean this guy is in consideration to become an assistant GM. You've gotta be fucking kidding me.
Well I stand corrected.  
Zeke's Alibi : 6/8/2019 3:54 pm : link
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Hahahahahahahahaha  
Nine-Tails : 6/8/2019 4:07 pm : link
God please, I hope this happens. He is awful, man I hope this happens. He will be their Marc Ross, but even worse, if that's possible.
Even fanofthejets  
Jay on the Island : 6/8/2019 4:09 pm : link
won't touch this one.
Jay  
XBRONX : 6/8/2019 4:13 pm : link
He won with Accoris talent in 2008
RE: Jay  
Jay on the Island : 6/8/2019 4:15 pm : link
In comment 14466944 XBRONX said:
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He won with Accoris talent in 2008

His 2007 draft class played a big part in that run but yes Accorsi did build much of that roster. His resume is infinitely more impressive than McShay's. If you want to knock someone knock Ross.
I don't get this at all.  
Sneakers O'toole : 6/8/2019 4:16 pm : link
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It would be poetic....if he lands with the Jets  
George from PA : 6/8/2019 4:23 pm : link
And he can enjoy, Daniel Jones 2 Super Bowls career!
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Mr. Bungle : 6/8/2019 4:34 pm : link
In comment 14466886 Jay on the Island said:
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"Incredible move if true. McShay is a genius and by far the best scouting mind of his generation." - fanofthejets

+1
Serious question  
widmerseyebrow : 6/8/2019 5:10 pm : link
Are there any cool Todds in the world?
I have no opinion about McShay, but:  
81_Great_Dane : 6/8/2019 5:15 pm : link
He's not going to be in charge, he's not going to be the GM. If the GM thinks McShay can play a valuable role in scouting and player evaluation, ok.

Sometimes good management means recognizing and taking advantage of people's talents, while limiting what you ask them to do, so to avoid their weaknesses. That's what good coaches do. If the new guy thinks McShay has an exploitable talent, ok. If it doesn't work out, they can always let him go.
Lol he is no Mayock...  
90.Cal : 6/8/2019 5:47 pm : link
Lol they might as well take Kiper over McShay... lmao. Only the Jets...
RE: Lol he is no Mayock...  
Jay on the Island : 6/8/2019 6:17 pm : link
In comment 14466997 90.Cal said:
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Lol they might as well take Kiper over McShay... lmao. Only the Jets...

Mayock has been courted by teams for years. He has turned down FO jobs in the past. Mayock is light years ahead of McShay.
RE: RE: What is even  
FStubbs : 6/8/2019 7:29 pm : link
In comment 14466929 Jay on the Island said:
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funnier is that Jerry Reese was a GM for 10 years.


In which he won 2 superbowls.


The rabid anti-Reese people believe that it was all EA and Gettleman's work and Reese simply prevented us from winning 4-5 Superbowls.
I can't say I know a ton about McShay  
fanofthejets : 6/8/2019 7:31 pm : link
But we got Joe Douglas, who is the best and most coveted young exec in the NFL, so if HE wants McShay then yes, I'm going to trust his judgement.
I am trying to figure out which is more credible  
Sy'56 : 6/8/2019 8:08 pm : link
The guys on a message board saying someone doesn't have the credibility in an industry that have NEVER been involved with....

Or Todd McShay...someone who has worked on professional scouting for 20 years...is being considered for a scouting job.

Lighten up guys...you know nothing about the important details of this job. Move on to something else...
RE: Lol he is no Mayock...  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 6/8/2019 8:29 pm : link
In comment 14466997 90.Cal said:
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Lol they might as well take Kiper over McShay... lmao. Only the Jets...

Mayorck is legit, has his ears to the ground, knew we were drafting Justin Puke. McShay... Nothing. ...
RE: I can't say I know a ton about McShay  
Jay on the Island : 6/8/2019 9:27 pm : link
In comment 14467075 fanofthejets said:
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But we got Joe Douglas, who is the best and most coveted young exec in the NFL, so if HE wants McShay then yes, I'm going to trust his judgement.

And where are you getting your information from? If Joe Douglas was the most coveted exec why didn’t any of the other teams that hired new GM’s not hire him? You’re clearly an expert on Joe Douglas even though you didn’t know who he was two weeks ago.
RE: I am trying to figure out which is more credible  
bw in dc : 6/8/2019 11:14 pm : link
In comment 14467133 Sy'56 said:
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The guys on a message board saying someone doesn't have the credibility in an industry that have NEVER been involved with....

Or Todd McShay...someone who has worked on professional scouting for 20 years...is being considered for a scouting job.

Lighten up guys...you know nothing about the important details of this job. Move on to something else...


Good post Sy. McShay is no slouch and has really impressed me with his insights over the years. He is not just some football foil for Kiper.
RE: RE: I can't say I know a ton about McShay  
fanofthejets : 6/9/2019 12:34 am : link
In comment 14467188 Jay on the Island said:
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In comment 14467075 fanofthejets said:


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But we got Joe Douglas, who is the best and most coveted young exec in the NFL, so if HE wants McShay then yes, I'm going to trust his judgement.


And where are you getting your information from? If Joe Douglas was the most coveted exec why didn’t any of the other teams that hired new GM’s not hire him? You’re clearly an expert on Joe Douglas even though you didn’t know who he was two weeks ago.


It's pretty well known he's among if not the most coveted young exec in football. It's been mentioned by anyone and everyone who's in the know in the NFL.

He's also not a very easy get. He was already in an enviable situation with one of the NFL's best run franchises in Philly. He likes it in the northeast, didn't want to leave the area. The Jets had Gase and Darnold. Gase and Douglas are friends and on the same page in terms of football philosophy. All 3 are represented by the same agent. And the Jets anted up. An exec of his caliber is not going to come cheap
RE: RE: I can't say I know a ton about McShay  
fanofthejets : 6/9/2019 12:40 am : link
In comment 14467188 Jay on the Island said:
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In comment 14467075 fanofthejets said:


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But we got Joe Douglas, who is the best and most coveted young exec in the NFL, so if HE wants McShay then yes, I'm going to trust his judgement.


And where are you getting your information from? If Joe Douglas was the most coveted exec why didn’t any of the other teams that hired new GM’s not hire him? You’re clearly an expert on Joe Douglas even though you didn’t know who he was two weeks ago.



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Douglas has been so sought after, that the Houston Texans came calling last month, requesting permission to speak with the veteran executive for their vacant general manager position.


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In all likelihood, it is going to be a struggle for the Eagles to keep Douglas within the organization long-term, without giving him a promotion in title and a raise, because he is one of the more highly respected and coveted personnel men across the NFL.


https://www.nj.com/eagles/2018/01/howie_roseman_explains_why_eagles_blocked_joe_doug.html
RE: I am trying to figure out which is more credible  
KingBlue : 6/9/2019 6:03 am : link
In comment 14467133 Sy'56 said:
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The guys on a message board saying someone doesn't have the credibility in an industry that have NEVER been involved with....

Or Todd McShay...someone who has worked on professional scouting for 20 years...is being considered for a scouting job.

Lighten up guys...you know nothing about the important details of this job. Move on to something else...


Long overdue post. Great job Sy. Knowing nothing never stops the know it all's on BBI.
RE: RE: Jay  
Breaker : 6/9/2019 6:30 am : link
In comment 14466947 Jay on the Island said:
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In comment 14466944 XBRONX said:


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He won with Accoris talent in 2008


His 2007 draft class played a big part in that run but yes Accorsi did build much of that roster. His resume is infinitely more impressive than McShay's. If you want to knock someone knock Ross.


We all give Reese his due for the two Super Bowls however much the core was Acorsi's. But you can't have a 20% hit rate on your draft picks over last seven years and pass it off to someone else. Its seven years not three. He was the GM and if Ross sucked he hired him and then didn't fire him. He was the boss so let's not sugar coat it.

In addition and has to be repeated. He had an immobile QB and didn't think the offensive line was a priority. When the light went off in his head he had to rebuild it, he couldn't.

20% hit rate and structurally couldn't figure it out. Enough said.
RE: Serious question  
Klaatu : 6/9/2019 7:06 am : link
In comment 14466977 widmerseyebrow said:
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Are there any cool Todds in the world?


Todd Rundgren
Todd Heap
RE: Serious question  
Mike in NY : 6/9/2019 7:13 am : link
In comment 14466977 widmerseyebrow said:
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Are there any cool Todds in the world?


Todd Pettengill
Todd  
XBRONX : 6/9/2019 7:50 am : link
Hundley.
RE: Todd  
fanofthejets : 6/9/2019 11:25 am : link
In comment 14467265 XBRONX said:
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Hundley.


Loved him before Piazza. Sad to see them stick him in LF like that with a wrecked elbow and watching him trying to play. A forgotten man with the Mets
RE: I am trying to figure out which is more credible  
Racer : 6/9/2019 1:38 pm : link
In comment 14467133 Sy'56 said:
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The guys on a message board saying someone doesn't have the credibility in an industry that have NEVER been involved with....


It's the same, snarky, drive-bye experts, as well.
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ghost718 : 6/9/2019 1:42 pm : link
RE: RE: Serious question  
ChaChing : 6/10/2019 12:25 am : link
In comment 14467261 Mike in NY said:
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In comment 14466977 widmerseyebrow said:
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Are there any cool Todds in the world?


Todd Pettengill

There's a name I never expected to hear ever again in life after my Albany years haha. Fly 92.3 morning DJ. Iirc he also started doing some hosting / announcing or the like with WWE after that. Also iirc, classic mullet
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fanofthejets : 6/10/2019 11:42 am : link
In comment 14467820 ChaChing said:
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In comment 14467261 Mike in NY said:


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In comment 14466977 widmerseyebrow said:
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Are there any cool Todds in the world?


Todd Pettengill


There's a name I never expected to hear ever again in life after my Albany years haha. Fly 92.3 morning DJ. Iirc he also started doing some hosting / announcing or the like with WWE after that. Also iirc, classic mullet


I think he was with 95.5 WPLJ until the bitter end (they're a religious rock station now)
Todd McShay To Remain At ESPN; Champ Kelly Likely To Join Jets?  
fanofthejets : 6/15/2019 2:46 pm : link
Interesting

June 13th, 2019 at 7:33pm CST by Dallas Robinson
Todd McShay will remain in his role as an ESPN draft analyst rather than continue to pursue a front office position with the Jets, according to Chris Mortensen of ESPN.com (Twitter link). Meanwhile, Bears assistant director of player personnel Champ Kelly — who interviewed for the Jets’ GM position before it went to Joe Douglas — is a candidate to join Gang Green in a different capacity and indeed is likely to be hired, per Rich Cimini of ESPN.com and Adam Caplan of SiriusXM NFL Radio (Twitter links).

https://www.profootballrumors.com/2019/06/todd-mcshay-to-remain-at-espn-champ-kelly-likely-to-join-jets
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