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section125 : 6/8/2019 4:18 pm
Eh, nobody started it, so I'll take a chance.

Game on FS1. Gardy cranked on just foul but no replay.

Anyway, no Gary, no Voit but plenty of Morales....Cannot understand why he is here anymore.
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RE: We could really use an easy Chappy outing.  
adamg : 6/9/2019 4:45 pm : link
In comment 14467594 Mike from SI said:
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But considering how this game has gone, idk if we're going to get it.


How dare you.
Chapman has now lost  
section125 : 6/9/2019 4:45 pm : link
control of the FB.....
The Houston series was similar to this  
Greg from LI : 6/9/2019 4:46 pm : link
But Houston's lineup is dynamite. This lineup is garbage.
RE: Chapman has now lost  
section125 : 6/9/2019 4:47 pm : link
In comment 14467608 section125 said:
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control of the FB.....


His best pitch is his slider now. It is a good one.

Sometimes you watch Chapman  
Dave in Hoboken : 6/9/2019 4:48 pm : link
and just wonder what he's doing out there sometimes. Sometimes it feels like he has no control over anything and he's in an alternate universe.
Oliver Perez....what a joke  
Greg from LI : 6/9/2019 4:49 pm : link
What, was Darren Oliver not available?
And of course Voit is out  
section125 : 6/9/2019 4:51 pm : link
of the game...Didi in his spot could be a wash.
Not sure why this is Chapman's fault  
Greg from LI : 6/9/2019 4:51 pm : link
He got what should have been the game ending grounder.
Hicks comes through  
illmatic : 6/9/2019 4:53 pm : link
Very nice.
Hicks!  
Mike from SI : 6/9/2019 4:53 pm : link
What a clutch hit.
Ok, Hicks comes through  
Greg from LI : 6/9/2019 4:53 pm : link
Just win this goddamned game and be done with this accursed series
Will Maybin and  
section125 : 6/9/2019 4:54 pm : link
Hicks save the day?

Who pitches the bottom of the inning? Tarpley..
HICKSIE!  
adamg : 6/9/2019 4:54 pm : link
RBI 2b
Thank you, Hicks.  
Dave in Hoboken : 6/9/2019 4:56 pm : link
I fucking hate the Indians thanks to this series. Not that I liked them before, but this series made me hate them even more.
RE: Not sure why this is Chapman's fault  
section125 : 6/9/2019 4:56 pm : link
In comment 14467616 Greg from LI said:
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He got what should have been the game ending grounder.


It is not. He is dicey most of the time and that was an easy hopper that Didi 99xs out of 100 is an out.
Really need an RBI  
section125 : 6/9/2019 4:56 pm : link
here...
Didi trying the set the record for most strikes seen in an AB  
adamg : 6/9/2019 4:58 pm : link
.
Tarpley closed in the minors, right?  
PetesHereNow : 6/9/2019 4:59 pm : link
Gimme some hope.
RE: Tarpley closed in the minors, right?  
section125 : 6/9/2019 5:01 pm : link
In comment 14467629 PetesHereNow said:
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Gimme some hope.


So damn nervous he can't throw strikes?
Great pitch kid!  
DC Gmen Fan : 6/9/2019 5:02 pm : link
!
RE: RE: Tarpley closed in the minors, right?  
section125 : 6/9/2019 5:04 pm : link
In comment 14467631 section125 said:
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In comment 14467629 PetesHereNow said:


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Gimme some hope.



So damn nervous he can't throw strikes?


Nope did not hit him
Nice try, asshole.  
Mike from SI : 6/9/2019 5:05 pm : link
Now get back to the plate.
Wtf  
adamg : 6/9/2019 5:05 pm : link
This guy pretends to get hit and we get a replay?

1 more  
DC Gmen Fan : 6/9/2019 5:06 pm : link
.
Come on kid  
mfsd : 6/9/2019 5:06 pm : link
finish this!
I see a little Mo  
DC Gmen Fan : 6/9/2019 5:06 pm : link
When tarpley sets
RE: I see a little Mo  
Mike from SI : 6/9/2019 5:07 pm : link
In comment 14467641 DC Gmen Fan said:
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When tarpley sets


Wow good observation.
Yes  
Mike from SI : 6/9/2019 5:08 pm : link
Harpley one of the heroes, of course. Just how they drew it up.
Huge job by Tarpley  
section125 : 6/9/2019 5:09 pm : link
shutting them down. Looked like last September Tarpley.
Tarpley!  
adamg : 6/9/2019 5:09 pm : link
Great inning.
Good win.  
Dave in Hoboken : 6/9/2019 5:10 pm : link
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RE: RE: I see a little Mo  
section125 : 6/9/2019 5:10 pm : link
In comment 14467642 Mike from SI said:
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In comment 14467641 DC Gmen Fan said:


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When tarpley sets



Wow good observation.


The relaxed hands at the belt...of course he's 15 mph slower with his K pitch.
Great job Tarpley!  
mfsd : 6/9/2019 5:10 pm : link
Frustrating weekend...really, a frustrating week...but a gutty win to close it out today.
And I'm back  
section125 : 6/9/2019 5:11 pm : link
to .500.

Jints in Carolina where are you???
well that was meat grinder, but a gutty win  
Stu11 : 6/9/2019 5:17 pm : link
makes a bad week a little less bad. Still tied for 1st and Boston 7 back. After this week I'll surely take it.
RE: Great job Tarpley!  
Carson53 : 6/9/2019 5:44 pm : link
In comment 14467649 mfsd said:
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Frustrating weekend...really, a frustrating week...but a gutty win to close it out today.
.

Maybe some of the veterans in the BP should take notice,
throw strikes! Even though they do the job most times,
it always seems like ball 1, ball 2.
Like Ottavino today for example, than throws a 3-0 cookie for a HR, geez.
Wow, can't believe Didi butchered that play in the 9th.
Glad they pulled it out in the 10th, that would have been
ugly to lose that game. Here come the Mets, very quick homestand.
RE: well that was meat grinder, but a gutty win  
Eman11 : 6/9/2019 5:46 pm : link
In comment 14467654 Stu11 said:
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makes a bad week a little less bad. Still tied for 1st and Boston 7 back. After this week I'll surely take it.


Same here.

It wasn't pretty but it was gritty and showed some backbone. Much better flight home now and some relief for us as well.

Here's hoping they get back to tacking on runs like they had been. They were so good at that when they were rolling and this counting on one inning bs has got to stop.

They were taking the fight outta teams by scoring a run here and there while leading but now they're giving teams some life. Let's get back to stepping on throats with this homestand starting with the Mets.
Urshela with 4 walks  
xman : 6/9/2019 7:36 pm : link
weird. Is his eye that good?
RE: Urshela with 4 walks  
section125 : 6/9/2019 8:00 pm : link
In comment 14467711 xman said:
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weird. Is his eye that good?


Yes. I believe he was behind in the count and fouled off a bunch of pitches on two of the walks....
Frazier really impressed me with that AB in the 9th  
Stu11 : 6/9/2019 9:04 pm : link
Cimber can be brutal on righties with that frisbee slider especially when he gets ahead in the count. Frazier laid off those 2 sliders just outside, got it to 3-2 and then drove a pitch he could handle for the sac fly. Really mature AB
It turns out that German's hip  
section125 : 6/10/2019 7:10 am : link
has bothered him the last 3 starts. As he got into the 3rd and 4th innings the strain started to bark and that is where he kept losing it. I was wondering if he was getting tired in the last two. Kind of answers the question. So by not saying anything and trying to push through it he may have injured himself. Hopefully it will only require a missed start or two.
RE: It turns out that German's hip  
Stu11 : 6/10/2019 9:13 am : link
In comment 14467850 section125 said:
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has bothered him the last 3 starts. As he got into the 3rd and 4th innings the strain started to bark and that is where he kept losing it. I was wondering if he was getting tired in the last two. Kind of answers the question. So by not saying anything and trying to push through it he may have injured himself. Hopefully it will only require a missed start or two.

Yea I read that. It definitely makes sense as he seemed to start ok in these starts and then lose it by the 3rd or 4th inning.
I keeping reading that German  
section125 : 6/10/2019 9:18 am : link
looks to be a long reliever. I see a legit starter. Using him as long relief is wasting him. He has that easy power even with the awkward fall off at the end. Hopefully this is only a two or three start shutdown.
Unlike Loaisiga, I see a decent future with German.
German  
Kyle in NY : 6/10/2019 9:26 am : link
has made big strides this season. But he's getting hit hard third time through the lineup. OPS against of I think .944 the third time through. Of course, every SP sees that number increase, but that's going to be the challenge that could set him apart as a true top of the rotation guy, or just a solid back end starter that needs to be carefully managed by the 6th inning.
He's also young...  
Dunedin81 : 6/10/2019 9:31 am : link
and in his first full year as a starting pitcher. He is capable of adjustment, of building up his stamina, etc etc. Doesn't mean he will, but let's not pencil him in for either ace or 5-inning starter just yet.
RE: He's also young...  
section125 : 6/10/2019 9:38 am : link
In comment 14467973 Dunedin81 said:
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and in his first full year as a starting pitcher. He is capable of adjustment, of building up his stamina, etc etc. Doesn't mean he will, but let's not pencil him in for either ace or 5-inning starter just yet.


Not an ace, but I could see a legit #3 with the stuff to top out at a #2. His control improved markedly from last season, so I don't see him as a 5 inning starter, either. Health is everything and will determine his ceiling or legitimacy.
Didn't mean to suggest  
Kyle in NY : 6/10/2019 9:42 am : link
it was simply one or the other
RE: I keeping reading that German  
rich in DC : 6/10/2019 9:48 am : link
In comment 14467949 section125 said:
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looks to be a long reliever. I see a legit starter. Using him as long relief is wasting him. He has that easy power even with the awkward fall off at the end. Hopefully this is only a two or three start shutdown.
Unlike Loaisiga, I see a decent future with German.


I think the big issue is that he has missed a LOT of time with injury over the past several seasons. I think that caused people to think he will not be able to "hold up" over a full season.

Last year he also had some issues with the "one bad inning" complex- and some issues with command.

With that said, he has always had high end "stuff." He could stand to master another pitch, just to make the hitters think a bit more and get them not to sit on the FB.

On the other hand, if he stays where he is right now and stays healthy (meaning he throws 160-180 IP a year), he's no worse than a #3 SP. However, IMO, if he can add a 3rd pitch that is more than a "show me" pitch that he can get swings and misses with, he can be a legit #2 SP- and MAYBE a #1.

IMO, it just comes down to health and whether he can stand up to 180 IP on an annual basis.
RE: German  
section125 : 6/10/2019 9:49 am : link
In comment 14467965 Kyle in NY said:
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has made big strides this season. But he's getting hit hard third time through the lineup. OPS against of I think .944 the third time through. Of course, every SP sees that number increase, but that's going to be the challenge that could set him apart as a true top of the rotation guy, or just a solid back end starter that needs to be carefully managed by the 6th inning.


His numbers went up big time since the injury started. So I don't know if that skewed the stats because of it.
He was sporting a high 2 ERA until the KC game when the injury appeared and had only given up 6 HRs iirc until that point.
But it is part of the learning curve. I'm sure between fatigue and resulting sloppiness the OPS would rise later in the game.
RE: German  
rich in DC : 6/10/2019 9:51 am : link
In comment 14467965 Kyle in NY said:
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has made big strides this season. But he's getting hit hard third time through the lineup. OPS against of I think .944 the third time through. Of course, every SP sees that number increase, but that's going to be the challenge that could set him apart as a true top of the rotation guy, or just a solid back end starter that needs to be carefully managed by the 6th inning.


I think a big part of it is that he is really relying on only 2 pitches. He needs a 3rd pitch that he can get consistent swings and misses on (or get strikes).

Hitters are smart- you can fool them on one or two pitches, but after they have seen everything you have a couple times, they adjust. If German develops a consistent 3rd pitch, he could really be dominant. He could go with his best 2 pitches the first time or two through the order, then shift gears and mix in the 3rd pitch to keep hitters off balance later in the game.
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