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Former Giants News - John Jerry signs with the Bengals

Eric from BBI : Admin : 6/10/2019 11:43 am
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Bengals have signed former Giantsí OL John Jerry, per source.
Just came to post this.  
mattlawson : 6/10/2019 11:47 am : link
Why in the world ...
RE: Just came to post this.  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 6/10/2019 11:51 am : link
In comment 14468102 mattlawson said:
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Why in the world ...



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A guy who Jerry Reese not only signed once, but TWICE. Ughh...
Yikes  
RIGiantsguy : 6/10/2019 11:52 am : link
Joins Bobby Hart on that line....poor Dalton
They must have been impressed  
Matt in SGS : 6/10/2019 11:53 am : link
of the film of him and Hart running into each other on stunts and think they'll get it figured out this time around.
They better hope that  
Jay on the Island : 6/10/2019 12:01 pm : link
Glenn and Boling stay healthy.
Boyz  
gidiefor : Mod : 6/10/2019 12:04 pm : link
the real story here is just how few good offensive linemen there are in the league

think about how strong that makes Gettleman's moves:
- signing Solder
- drafting Hernandez,
- trading for Zeitler
- and bringing in a RT that Shurmur's worked with successfully before

Some of you complain about the signing of Solder and Remmer -- and even knock Zeitler --

but given what's out there -- and that teams are still signing the Jerry's and Hart's out there - imo -- these were solid signings
Good point, gidie.  
Ira : 6/10/2019 12:08 pm : link
This should be the best o-line that we've had in a very long time.
I mentioned this on another thread  
widmerseyebrow : 6/10/2019 12:11 pm : link
When you get to the bottom of the barrel, teams have two options: trash and trash with starting experience. It's why guys like Hart, Flowers, Jerry will get jobs.
Andy  
Jim Bur(n)t : 6/10/2019 12:12 pm : link
Get ready to take a pounding... SMH.. Poor Bastid
another point to be made -  
gidiefor : Mod : 6/10/2019 12:12 pm : link
they are not just annointing Pio center --they are making him compete with Pulley for it
A solid duo of Jonah and Cordy on 1 side  
90.Cal : 6/10/2019 12:16 pm : link
With the worst duo ever of Jerry and Hart on the other!
A concerted effort  
gmenatlarge : 6/10/2019 12:23 pm : link
to rid the team of Andy Dalton
RE: A solid duo of Jonah and Cordy on 1 side  
BlueLou'sBack : 6/10/2019 12:31 pm : link
In comment 14468138 90.Cal said:
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With the worst duo ever of Jerry and Hart on the other!


Clint Boling is a very solid OG, similar to Zeitler if healthy.
RE: Boyz  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 6/10/2019 12:39 pm : link
In comment 14468122 gidiefor said:
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the real story here is just how few good offensive linemen there are in the league

think about how strong that makes Gettleman's moves:
- signing Solder
- drafting Hernandez,
- trading for Zeitler
- and bringing in a RT that Shurmur's worked with successfully before

Some of you complain about the signing of Solder and Remmer -- and even knock Zeitler --

but given what's out there -- and that teams are still signing the Jerry's and Hart's out there - imo -- these were solid signings

You basically have to be a unicorn to be a shut down LT, the market forces us to overpay for a good above average LT like Solder. It's either him or a black hole at LT.
RE: I mentioned this on another thread  
FStubbs : 6/10/2019 12:48 pm : link
In comment 14468132 widmerseyebrow said:
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When you get to the bottom of the barrel, teams have two options: trash and trash with starting experience. It's why guys like Hart, Flowers, Jerry will get jobs.


The problem is the correct answer to that dilemma is "young unproven trash". Because you know there's a 0% chance Jerry and Hart will give you anything, but there's a slim chance (better than 0%) that the young unproven trash might prove to be effective.
The..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 6/10/2019 12:49 pm : link
Bengals fan board is about to get besieged by a very interesting poster...
RE: The..  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 6/10/2019 12:50 pm : link
In comment 14468184 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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Bengals fan board is about to get besieged by a very interesting poster...


LOL
Word is they  
Les in TO : 6/10/2019 1:02 pm : link
Are targeting Weston Richburg when he becomes a free agent. Bringing the band back together
RE: The..  
Jay on the Island : 6/10/2019 1:10 pm : link
In comment 14468184 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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Bengals fan board is about to get besieged by a very interesting poster...

Hahaha, thanks dude I needed that one.
RE: A solid duo of Jonah and Cordy on 1 side  
Jay on the Island : 6/10/2019 1:17 pm : link
In comment 14468138 90.Cal said:
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With the worst duo ever of Jerry and Hart on the other!

Chances are Jerry won't make the team. Cordy Glenn has been moved to LG to make room for Jonah Williams. They also re-signed Clint Boling and signed FA G John Miller to a 3 year 16.5 million dollar contract. The chances of him making the team are extremely slim especially since he can't play center or tackle. It's the Bengals though so he will probably end up starting at RG.
RE: The..  
BlueLou'sBack : 6/10/2019 1:28 pm : link
In comment 14468184 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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Bengals fan board is about to get besieged by a very interesting poster...


LULZ!

Took a second for the reference to kick in the memory banks...
RE: Boyz  
giantsFC : 6/10/2019 1:31 pm : link
In comment 14468122 gidiefor said:
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the real story here is just how few good offensive linemen there are in the league

think about how strong that makes Gettleman's moves:
- signing Solder
- drafting Hernandez,
- trading for Zeitler
- and bringing in a RT that Shurmur's worked with successfully before

Some of you complain about the signing of Solder and Remmer -- and even knock Zeitler --

but given what's out there -- and that teams are still signing the Jerry's and Hart's out there - imo -- these were solid signings


Been thinking this for years. The next evolution in football schemes and athletes will have to do w lineman.

Starting to wonder if you will begin to see smaller lineman similar to the pre 1980ís become a thing.
RE: Boyz  
BillT : 6/10/2019 1:51 pm : link
In comment 14468122 gidiefor said:
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the real story here is just how few good offensive linemen there are in the league

think about how strong that makes Gettleman's moves:
- signing Solder
- drafting Hernandez,
- trading for Zeitler
- and bringing in a RT that Shurmur's worked with successfully before

Some of you complain about the signing of Solder and Remmer -- and even knock Zeitler --

People seem to forget last year we had Omaneh, Flowers, Brown and Wheeler on our line. For 3 of those 4 it's a legitimate question whether they belong in the league at all. Yet, we have posters who question if we're improved on the OL with Zeitler and Remmers!
I had high hopes for Jerry...  
x meadowlander : 6/10/2019 1:59 pm : link
...after he spent that winter with the conditioning guru.

Didn't help a bit. John had the build but Good God, the man could not pick up a stunt.
Ah the John Jerry Troll  
gidiefor : Mod : 6/10/2019 1:59 pm : link
considering they have Duke Johnson too -- it will be a field day!!!

Maybe send them the Simos too
RE: Ah the John Jerry Troll  
Jay on the Island : 6/10/2019 2:02 pm : link
In comment 14468275 gidiefor said:
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considering they have Duke Johnson too -- it will be a field day!!!

Maybe send them the Simos too

Duke Johnson is still on the Browns unfortunately.
Jay -- I was referring to Fatman's  
gidiefor : Mod : 6/10/2019 2:12 pm : link
prediction of an interesting poster on the Brown's Board

We've had a Duke Johnson Troll - and a John Jerry Troll -- make multiple accounts on BBI
RE: Jay -- I was referring to Fatman's  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 6/10/2019 2:20 pm : link
In comment 14468289 gidiefor said:
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prediction of an interesting poster on the Brown's Board

We've had a Duke Johnson Troll - and a John Jerry Troll -- make multiple accounts on BBI


They are the same guy. Iím pretty sure they are still here as well.
I don't know,  
RollBlue : 6/10/2019 2:44 pm : link
comments like "they're make Halipio earn it by beating out Pulley"? They both sucked last year. Hernandez showed some promise, but had issues. Remember the rookie season Petrus had? He got playing time late in the season during the SB46 run and then dropped of the table for some reason.

The Giants basically have the same line as last year, with Ziegler over Brown, which should be better for pass blocking, but maybe worse in terms of run blocking. And they lost their best pass pusher in order to get him.

Remmers is a big unknown right now. Maybe these guys stay healthy and gel, but making pronouncements that this line is much improved doesn't wash yet.
.  
MOOPS : 6/10/2019 2:53 pm : link
RE: Jay -- I was referring to Fatman's  
Jay on the Island : 6/10/2019 3:07 pm : link
In comment 14468289 gidiefor said:
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prediction of an interesting poster on the Brown's Board

We've had a Duke Johnson Troll - and a John Jerry Troll -- make multiple accounts on BBI

I remember both very well. I think it was the same guy.
The John Jerry troll returned briefly last year  
Jay on the Island : 6/10/2019 3:08 pm : link
his new infatuation was Quenton Nelson.
RE: They must have been impressed  
Klaatu : 6/10/2019 3:16 pm : link
In comment 14468110 Matt in SGS said:
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of the film of him and Hart running into each other on stunts and think they'll get it figured out this time around.


I'm literally laughing out loud right now.
If Washington waives Flowers,  
Since1965 : 6/10/2019 3:18 pm : link
the Bengals can sign him and move full shit ahead.
Why would ANY team  
David B. : 6/10/2019 4:43 pm : link
want to sign 2015-2017 OLs.

Unless you're trolling for the 1st overall pick.


Maybe they should hire Reese an Ross, too?
Giants OLs  
David B. : 6/10/2019 4:43 pm : link
That is.
Hog mollies baby!  
adamg : 6/10/2019 4:45 pm : link
Bengs will be unstoppable. Great move. Where's the Jerry troll at?
Wow  
rdt288 : 6/10/2019 5:21 pm : link
-watch him make the pro bowl

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RE: I don't know,  
fredgbrown : 6/10/2019 10:49 pm : link
In comment 14468326 RollBlue said:
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comments like "they're make Halipio earn it by beating out Pulley"? They both sucked last year. Hernandez showed some promise, but had issues. Remember the rookie season Petrus had? He got playing time late in the season during the SB46 run and then dropped of the table for some reason.

The Giants basically have the same line as last year, with Ziegler over Brown, which should be better for pass blocking, but maybe worse in terms of run blocking. And they lost their best pass pusher in order to get him.

Remmers is a big unknown right now. Maybe these guys stay healthy and gel, but making pronouncements that this line is much improved doesn't wash yet.


According to PFF pio was the 2nd rated pass blocking center in the NFL in his 2 games played last year.
RE: I don't know,  
Klaatu : 6/11/2019 9:36 am : link
In comment 14468326 RollBlue said:
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comments like "they're make Halipio earn it by beating out Pulley"? They both sucked last year. Hernandez showed some promise, but had issues. Remember the rookie season Petrus had? He got playing time late in the season during the SB46 run and then dropped of the table for some reason.

The Giants basically have the same line as last year, with Ziegler over Brown, which should be better for pass blocking, but maybe worse in terms of run blocking. And they lost their best pass pusher in order to get him.

Remmers is a big unknown right now. Maybe these guys stay healthy and gel, but making pronouncements that this line is much improved doesn't wash yet.


You're comparing Will Hernandez to Mitch Petrus? That's laughable. Besides the fact that Petrus's rookie season was 2010 (eleven games, no starts), not 2011, the only reason he got any playing time at all in 2011 (six games, three starts - his only starts in three years with the Giants), is because the injuries to Will Beatty and David Baas forced the Giants to reshuffle their O-Line a few times (and losing Stacy Andrews didn't help, either). After three years, the Giants couldn't wait to get rid of Petrus.

Hernandez started every game in his rookie year, which shouldn't be that much of surprise, since unlike Petrus, a 5th Round pick (#147), Hernandez was a 2nd Rounder (#34). For all of his "issues," he did make the PFWA All-Rookie Team, and deservedly so.

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The Giants basically have the same line as last year, with Ziegler over Brown, which should be better for pass blocking, but maybe worse in terms of run blocking. And they lost their best pass pusher in order to get him.


Yeah, well, except for their RG and in all probability their RT, too. Care to explain why the O-Line might be "maybe worse in terms of run blocking?" That makes no sense, but I'll assume you're alluding to the fact that Zeitler is considered a better pass-blocker than run-blocker. Well, he is, but that doesn't mean he isn't a good run-blocker, too. It's not like he can do one but not the other. As for losing our best pass-rusher to get him, that's not saying much. I don't think it will be that difficult to replace the production of "Mr. Almost Got There."

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Remmers is a big unknown right now. Maybe these guys stay healthy and gel, but making pronouncements that this line is much improved doesn't wash yet.


That's true, Remmers is a big unknown, but only because of his health. We do know that when he's played RT, he's played it well. I do want to see who wins the battle for the starting Center job, even though both candidates are less than ideal (and that's being generous) because I want to see the starting five healthy and practicing together. I also want to see who their backups will be, because the odds are we'll need one or two of them at some point this year.

Now, while I'm also loathe to make pronouncements about whether or not the O-Line has been improved - and I won't until the pads come on the hitting starts - clearly, the change of personnel on the right side should help, and so should the fact that Solder and Hernandez on the left side have a year's worth of playing next to each other. A case can be made that those two factors alone signal an improved O-Line. I won't make it, but I won't criticize those who do, either.
LOL..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 6/11/2019 9:51 am : link
We basically have the same line as last year with likely a different Center and entire right side.

Makes perfect sense!!
Jerry a frustrating player  
bc4life : 6/12/2019 4:05 pm : link
the epitome of inconsistency
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