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I wanna see Paul Perkins ...

Manny in CA : 6/10/2019 10:36 pm

Win the #2 RB position. Rod Smith "soften the up" (like Brandon Jacobs used to); Barkley make the big plays and Perkins not let them catch their breath.

With improved line play, (and fresh legs) he can duplicate what he did at UCLA ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3sSck_Z_Ds
How..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 6/10/2019 10:38 pm : link
did Gallman fall out of favor for basically no reason?
NOTHING against Gallman, Fatman ...  
Manny in CA : 6/10/2019 10:43 pm : link

Just think Perkins has a higher ceiling, with the ball in his hands. Good hands, quick, excellent balance and good blocker.

May the best man win !
Gallman  
Marty866b : 6/10/2019 10:56 pm : link
I like Gallman better then Perkins. Much tougher runner with better balance but he better cure his fumbling issues.
No doubt, Gallman's the stronger man ...  
Manny in CA : 6/10/2019 11:06 pm : link


But after a heavy dose of Smith and Barkley, the defense is bloody and is no condition to chase a scatback like Perkins.
Perkins..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 6/10/2019 11:08 pm : link
isn't a scatback.

He's 5'10"
I'm just talking about his style ...  
Manny in CA : 6/11/2019 12:22 am : link

Quick, elusive;, won't break too many tackles; often makes the 1st tackler miss.

Perkins looked like hot garbage the last time we saw him  
Poktown Pete : 6/11/2019 12:43 am : link
He looked very slow to the hole and tentative when he got there. He also is unable to break a tackle. The first person who breathes on him seems to knock him down.

Gallman passes the eye test. He's got some shiftiness, doesn't go down easily and fights for yardage. Perkins pales by comaprison, in my book.
Friend who loves all UCLA sports  
madgiantscow009 : 6/11/2019 1:01 am : link
thinks he's just too slow.
Perkins  
BigBluesman : 6/11/2019 3:21 am : link
is lucky to make the team. We've seen nothing from him as a pro to merit optimism. Gallman jumped him instantly.
I don't have a horse in this race. May the best man win - and he will  
Ira : 6/11/2019 6:08 am : link
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RE: Perkins looked like hot garbage the last time we saw him  
M.S. : 6/11/2019 6:16 am : link
In comment 14468889 Poktown Pete said:
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He looked very slow to the hole and tentative when he got there. He also is unable to break a tackle. The first person who breathes on him seems to knock him down.

Gallman passes the eye test. He's got some shiftiness, doesn't go down easily and fights for yardage. Perkins pales by comaprison, in my book.

Perkins was at his worst when our O-line was at its worst.
Gallman is so underapreciated  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 6/11/2019 6:49 am : link
on BBI. Tough kid who is a very good football player.
I like Gallman much more then Perkins  
ZogZerg : 6/11/2019 6:55 am : link
Of course, I hope Perkins plays well, but I think Gallman is a significantly better back.
RE: Friend who loves all UCLA sports  
Tuckrule : 6/11/2019 7:24 am : link
In comment 14468892 madgiantscow009 said:
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thinks he's just too slow.


Friend of mine as well said the same thing. Gallman is legit if he can cure the fumbling issues. 2 of his fumbles last season came on catches where he was immediately hit as he turned up field. Hopefully Wayne can win the #2 job
A..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 6/11/2019 7:55 am : link
scatback who is too slow.

Sounds like a match made in heaven....
Guy named Tiki had  
section125 : 6/11/2019 8:02 am : link
real fumbling problems - real fumbling problems. He turned out ok.
Gallman is a very good 2nd RB and should not be dismissed in lieu of a guy that has not played in over a year. I hope Perkins comes back strong. The more the merrier. But I doubt Gallman is not on the 53 man roster come Sept 1.
Gallman will definitely make the team  
markky : 6/11/2019 8:10 am : link
This is crazy talk. Besides, he's a Clemson Tiger.
Gallman is better than Perkins  
cjac : 6/11/2019 9:09 am : link
and i dont think that its close


i'll be surprised if Perkins is on the 53 come September
RE: Gallman is better than Perkins  
NikkiMac : 6/11/2019 9:48 am : link
In comment 14469050 cjac said:
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and i dont think that its close


i'll be surprised if Perkins is on the 53 come September


I agree maybe they can trade Perkins for a late rounder .
If Perkins..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 6/11/2019 9:52 am : link
returned a pretzel and a hot dog that would be ideal. And I'm thinking Gwaltney franks, not Nathan's.
Not a fan of Perkins.  
Klaatu : 6/11/2019 10:02 am : link
But that's probably because I wanted the Giants to draft Jordan Howard that year.
If we are comparing the two, in addition to running style  
Marty in Albany : 6/11/2019 11:13 am : link
1. Pass protection
2. Receiving
3. Special teams

How is Perkins in those areas?
Its a mystery to me  
Jay on the Island : 6/11/2019 11:30 am : link
How Gallman has fallen out of favor with so many here. Sure he has to improve ball security but he is the most versatile RB among the backups. Hes the ideal 3rd down back when Barkley needs a break because he is the best receiver among the backups. I liked Perkins a lot but he has to prove he is fully healthy and show better vision. Perkins is probably faster than Gallman but Gallman is the more complete back. There is room for both but Smith is going to be in the mix also.
RE: Gallman will definitely make the team  
KeoweeFan : 6/11/2019 11:48 am : link
In comment 14468979 markky said:
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This is crazy talk. Besides, he's a Clemson Tiger.

....The Wayne Train was no slouch at Clemson. He led the nation's best backs in yards after contact. He was also money on goal line and short yardage. Good at blocking and pass receiving out of the backfield. His negative was lack of breakaway speed.
Regardless of what happens with Perkins  
since1925 : 6/11/2019 12:00 pm : link
It is unlikely to have any major effect on the Giants season. Wish the young man well but if he sees significant playing time it doesn't bode well for the team.
I have never been a big Gallman fan, not at Clemson  
BlueLou'sBack : 6/11/2019 4:05 pm : link
and not in his performance so far as a Giant. Apparently PS has spoken highly of Perkins performance so far this off season, and both Patti Traina and Chris Bisignano of The Giants Insider think Gallman's "hold" on the #2 RB slot is a myth and that Perkins can take it.

Listen to Patti's LockedOn Giants Podcast from 6/6 to hear them discuss it. On 6/7 Patti mentioned Perkins as one of her top 6/7/8 players from the set of 3 mandatory minicamp practices. IIRC the whole list was: Jones, Perkins, Slayton, Conrad, Carter, Peppers, maybe another 1 or 2.

I doubt Gallman is a roster lock, let alone assured the #2 RB slot. Bisignano noted Gallman dropped a couple of easy receptions last year, and that pissed off PS no end.
According to The Giants Insider,  
Brown Recluse : 6/12/2019 4:49 am : link
Perkins is going to get a really good look at making this roster. The coaching staff likes his hands and running style.

Gallman is nothing special. He isnt under appreciated, hes recognized for what he is - an average back. And if you're going to play runningback in Shurmurs offense, you better be able to catch the ball. I dont think Shurmur is comfortable with Gallmans drops.

Perkins was pretty dynamic at times as a rookie. If he recaptures that form now that hes healthy and running behind a competent line, hes a better back than Gallman hands down.

Gallman is the more versatile runner, while Perkins makes incredible  
Ira : 6/12/2019 6:07 am : link
cutbacks. They both had very good rookie years, but not much since. This film room vid with Carl Banks shows Perkins ability to quickly change direction and find open space to run.
Link - ( New Window )
Perkins is in a battle  
JonC : 6/12/2019 9:12 am : link
to not be #4 or off the roster. Much to prove and quickly.
Perkins has to show his talent is enough to justify his injury history  
Zeke's Alibi : 6/12/2019 9:17 am : link
. I think RB and CB are two positions we keep more players at, the two deepest positions on the roster.
I love Gallman  
beatrixkiddo : 6/12/2019 10:49 am : link
And think he did excellent spelling Barkley last year. For such an skinny looking guy he runs real hard. He has a little Bradshaw in him.
Thank you, Ira ...  
Manny in CA : 6/12/2019 7:34 pm : link
That video reminded me a LOT of Tiki, (late in his career).

Tiki mastered the art of the cutback. With a lot of help from his fullback (Jim Finn), he drove a lot of defenses nuts.



Further, as Carl Banks points out Perkins already has the knack of drawing tacklers into the gaps, then running way from them - that takes vision, recognition, quick reactions and great feet.

Gallman is a traditional slasher type; I don't think he'll ever be any more than that


Perkins running  
XBRONX : 6/12/2019 8:23 pm : link
style? 153 carries and a long run of 22 yards. What a threat. LOL
Improved line play ...  
Manny in CA : 6/12/2019 9:04 pm : link

(As well as improved down-field blocking) will help.

Coaches must see something good, else he wouldn't get the good reports he's getting
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