Pat Shurmur - "You never know what is going to happen."

PS being coy just adds fuel to the QB controversy fire.

Seriously, if they were even hoping Jones would start this season, they should have cut ties with Eli during the off season.

In comment 14469783 Diver_Down said:

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In comment 14469778 Eric from BBI said: Quote: In comment 14469763 .McL. said: Quote: He is drawing a stark difference. Eli is getting ready to have a great season Jones is getting ready to play Then he says every player on the has to get ready to play, You never know what might happen. In other words, Jones is NOT ready to play yet, he is getting is learning and getting ready. If Eli goes down, Jones has to be ready to in there. Eli, as the starting QB, is working towards a higher goal. He kept saying what he said was clear and kept repeating it. Take his words exactly as he said them. I don't think he is being very vague at all. Yes, except he wasn't that clear. And when asked 3-4 times to make his language precise, he didn't specifically say, "Jones will only play if Eli gets hurt." He said, "Who knows?" Pat has nothing to gain to verbalize any specifics. In your example, if we are out of playoff contention and Eli is still healthy, then Jones won't see playing time because the specific case is only when Eli gets hurt. Fans and the media latch onto statements to use against them. DG is a liar to some because he said, "We didn't sign him to trade him" only to end up trading OBJ.

Yeah agreed, he has nothing to gain by being more specific now.

If mid season and the Giants are all but out of contention, and the decision is made to let the kid play. Tjey don't want a McAdoo style meltdown. At that point, Eli is still more likely to produce wins, but the long term benefit to the franchise is to let the kid play. But they can never say that, without controversy.

In comment 14469648 Bill L said:

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In comment 14469643 Ten Ton Hammer said: Quote: Not have a QB controversy and also swear to the world they picked the right guy at 6. That would be dumb and also contradictory to Gettleman's rep of not needing to justify himself to anyone.

If they're trying to avoid the pitfall of 'When does Jones play?', they're doing an impressively bad job of it with comments such as those. How did we get from 'Jones could sit from 1-3 years' to this point?

did before they got him on a field with NFL players,but they clearly like what they see so far. That question is only getting asked if Eli plays poorly, which at the point it aounds like they are confident he will be ready.

comments by Shurmur. I'd still be shocked if Jones is starting Week 1.

we passed on Josh Allen for him. Anything other than him competing for the job would be foolish imo. This is a good thing & it is encouraging he appears to be learning quickly.

In comment 14469456 RobCarpenter said:

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Would any team actually trade for him? Personally I'm glad that Shurmur is saying that it's a competition, even if the reality is that Eli will be the starter. My biggest fear isn't Eli starting in 2019. It's the Giants extending him. Hopefully Jones shows them enough so that that doesn't happen.

The only way I think this happens is if God forbid Eli missed a few games due to injury but looked really good in those games and Jones looked awful.

if he was not turning this into a competition and if he is not doing everything he can to develop Jones to the point where he can actually beat out Eli. That is good for the team.

knows whether Eli is ready for one of his better years or whether Jones is ready to lead an NFL team to repeated victories. In prior years, I had little interest in preseason, even when it gave opportunities to Lorenzen, Nassib, Carr, Webb, or Lauletta. Not so this year. I am really anxious to see how well Jones performs.

That how you view your roster prior to the season can change quickly once you get your team together and have the opportunity to work with them.

Coaches want to win, the idea that Jones might start the season at #1 might be viewed with incredulity by some fans, but given some of the reports and innuendos we have had coming from camp in regard to Eli s arm, it might not be that far fetched to see Jones behind center week 1.

In comment 14469308 FatMan in Charlotte said:

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Quote: When they took Jones at 6, this was part all part of it. It is why Eli cancelled his appearance on Francesca Eli cancelled the regular appearance 4 days BEFORE the draft.

He could have known that gettleman was locked in on picking a QB at #6