Of at least 3 teams according to Bobby Marks on ESPN. Puccio says this will "unlikely impact" Nets pursuit.
Marks comments at 1:33 of linked video. And...
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I’m told Kevin Durant’s injury unlikely to impact Brooklyn’s pursuit of him. #Nets
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Maybe some teams would still be interested but the numbers and expectations can't possibly be the same. Are there really teams willing to pay him 30 mil to miss most if not all of next year, so they can have him afterwards with no idea if he'd be the same player or even close to it?
I'm glad it's not my money they're gambling with.
The one nagging thing about all the momentum that seemed to build this year surrounding Durant-to-the-Knicks was this: By the time next season begins, he will be 31 years old.
The last time the Knicks built the entirety of their blueprint around a pending free agent was 2010, and the target was LeBron James, and that wound up tossed in the crowded trash pail of failed Knicks plans. But James was 25 years old that summer. Kawhi Leonard is the other white whale available in this season’s free-agent haul. He doesn’t turn 28 until the end of this month. Even Carmelo Anthony was only 26 when the Knicks acquired him....
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That has to impact the decision.
Now I'm not saying the Knicks won't do something crazy like sign him to a max, that'd be pretty Knicks.
That has to impact the decision.
Now I'm not saying the Knicks won't do something crazy like sign him to a max, that'd be pretty Knicks.
except every tram in the nba wpuld still give him the max, so its not just the knicks
7 to 9 months is now the timeframe to return but it usually is a full year before back to normal..
the key is what kind of shape are you in when you come back
What’s the alternative? Take on bad players on bad contracts for late 1sts or heavily protected future picks? I’ll take my chances one of the greatest players ever recovers from this. This also gives the Knicks another year to develop players and build the roster.
And that Vaccaro article is one of the dumbest things I’ve ever read.
If you don't think this injury is significant, look at the history of players who had the same injury and never returned to their previous form. And you can look at some superstars too. Dominique Wilkins and Kobe are two that had a steep dropoff after their injuries.
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Rudy Gay & Boogie to come back from their torn Achilles?
7 to 9 months is now the timeframe to return but it usually is a full year before back to normal..
the key is what kind of shape are you in when you come back
So even if it takes him 10-11 months to come back he's still only 31 years old and possibly back for the beginning of the playoffs.
The people who don't want the Knicks to sign him keep saying he's gonna be 32 before he plays a game again. He won't be 32 for 15 1/2 months.
Doesn’t this delay lead you to believe it may not be a serious as initially throught?
first off berman is a moron..
second zero chance durant opts in, they either max him or he is gone
I'm now solidly in the: use their cap space to try to acquire more assets and stick with the young players side of the debate. Hopefully a better opportunity will present itself before the young players hit their second contracts. I personally think that if the Knicks throw money at injured players or lesser stars like Kemba, Kyrie, or Boogie Cousins, they will undo everything that they did with the KP trade.
Doesn’t this delay lead you to believe it may not be a serious as initially throught?
this is what i was thinking, if it was completely torn or ruptured they would of known the 2nd it happened
Age 34 Kobe tore his in April, returned in December. Cousins was closer to a year. I'd imagine whoever signs him will take it slow and he will really only be an option around playoff time next year. So be it. Prince is already a minor upgrade over what the Nets had last year, continue making incremental roster upgrades and have KD waiting in the wings to take a big leap forward as soon as he's healthy. Ideally there'd be some kind of opt out to protect the team down the road if he has a disastrous recovery, but that would seem unlikely.
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Rudy Gay & Boogie to come back from their torn Achilles?
7 to 9 months is now the timeframe to return but it usually is a full year before back to normal..
the key is what kind of shape are you in when you come back
So even if it takes him 10-11 months to come back he's still only 31 years old and possibly back for the beginning of the playoffs.
The people who don't want the Knicks to sign him keep saying he's gonna be 32 before he plays a game again. He won't be 32 for 15 1/2 months.
It took Durant's teammate Cousins a full year to return, and that was the right call. GSW knew rushing him back was a bad decision. Rudy Gay rushed back and missed like 15 games the next year, after hurting his other heal, and has had ankle issues both years sense. A compromised Achilles causes lots of compensating and related issues.
If the Knicks do sign him, I'd hope they would be very cautious with him and not force him back next season.
I wouldn't if it's at the expense of DLo.
That is to say, if the Nets got KD, it would be because Kyrie recruited him here.
And, I think I'd prefer to keep Harris/Dinwiddie over DLo in that scenario.
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Rudy Gay & Boogie to come back from their torn Achilles?
7 to 9 months is now the timeframe to return but it usually is a full year before back to normal..
the key is what kind of shape are you in when you come back
No, Wall just ruptured his achilles in January and isn't expected back from that injury for a year. Let's not make up our own facts to try and paint a rosier picture.
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at 37 came back the next year played 64 games and averaged 15 and 10
I could have sworn he did in game one or two vs the Pacers .ESPN had a listing of all the all star players who tore tore their Achilles and Ewing's name was not on there ,I found that odd because i could have sworn that it happened
Ewing had a partial tear and he's on the list.
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at 37 came back the next year played 64 games and averaged 15 and 10
I could have sworn he did in game one or two vs the Pacers .ESPN had a listing of all the all star players who tore tore their Achilles and Ewing's name was not on there ,I found that odd because i could have sworn that it happened
Ewing had a partial tear and he's on the list. How Achilles Injuries Affected These Nine NBA Players - ( New Window )
Looks like they whiffed on Wilkins age by 10 years.
If you don't think this injury is significant, look at the history of players who had the same injury and never returned to their previous form. And you can look at some superstars too. Dominique Wilkins and Kobe are two that had a steep dropoff after their injuries.
Dominique was the exception to the rule. He had his best season in years coming off of his achilles injury. Kobe was 4 years older than Durant and was never the spot up shooter that Durant is. That alone gives Durant something to fall back on if his explosiveness is hindered.
Plus, Kobe came back briefly and then missed the rest of the season due to a bad knee injury. The following season he tore his rotator cuff in January and had season-ending surgery. His body broke down and there's no way to know if his ineffectiveness was due to an amalgamation of injuries, just the achilles or his age since he was 37 by the time he was able to string together enough of a sample size to draw any conclusions from.
Exactly. That never made a lick of sense. He's going to rehab and then risk that teams pay him the max despite him not playing for a year?
3. Sign vets to one year deals to persevere cap flexibility
4. Continue to develop young players
5. In 2020-2021 sign AD as an UFA.
In this scenario, Durant gets healthy next season and even if he comes back at 85%, he will still be better than 95% of the players in the league.
Dirk N was a highly productive player until he was 37. And he’s a pretty good comp for KD.
The plan also will probably result in another lottery pick, so that builds the asset base even further and by 2020-2021, the Knicks would have AD, KD, RJ, another high pick, Robinson, Knox, et al + will still have five first round picks over the next three years.
This plan is about near-term, 2020-2011 and also sets the team up for long-term, sustained success.
3. Sign vets to one year deals to persevere cap flexibility
4. Continue to develop young players
5. In 2020-2021 sign AD as an UFA.
In this scenario, Durant gets healthy next season and even if he comes back at 85%, he will still be better than 95% of the players in the league.
Dirk N was a highly productive player until he was 37. And he’s a pretty good comp for KD.
The plan also will probably result in another lottery pick, so that builds the asset base even further and by 2020-2021, the Knicks would have AD, KD, RJ, another high pick, Robinson, Knox, et al + will still have five first round picks over the next three years.
This plan is about near-term, 2020-2011 and also sets the team up for long-term, sustained success.
I think this is a solid plan. AD may get traded to the Lakers, but Rich Paul said he'll be hitting free agency either way.
3. Sign vets to one year deals to persevere cap flexibility
4. Continue to develop young players
5. In 2020-2021 sign AD as an UFA.
In this scenario, Durant gets healthy next season and even if he comes back at 85%, he will still be better than 95% of the players in the league.
Dirk N was a highly productive player until he was 37. And he’s a pretty good comp for KD.
The plan also will probably result in another lottery pick, so that builds the asset base even further and by 2020-2021, the Knicks would have AD, KD, RJ, another high pick, Robinson, Knox, et al + will still have five first round picks over the next three years.
This plan is about near-term, 2020-2011 and also sets the team up for long-term, sustained success.
I'm 100% on board with this. I'd make your #3 a 3b, and 3a would be to first use cap space to take on bad contracts that expire at the end of next season in exchange for draft picks.
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Is this a joke?
Can I use those funds to pay off my college loans?
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As a Net fan I hope he is, but this isn't telling. O'Malley did his foot surgery several years ago too so the relationship isn't a new development. Though going through an extended rehab directly under his surgeons supervision perhaps it is an extra perk for a team that may have already been in the consideration set.
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Updated: #Knicks still ready to make push for Kevin Durant signing. But KD was in New York planning to visit specialist who doubles as #Nets doctor, per Brian Lewis’ sources
This was reported yesterday. The doctor he's seeing operated on him when he had foot surgery previously so it's no surprise he'd go back to him. He also happens to be one of the best in the world for foot/ankle injuries. Shouldn't read anything into it. When Mariano Rivera tore his ACL for example, the surgery was done by David Altchek who works for the Mets.