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NFT: Jose Ramirez, Fantasy Baseball

bigblue5611_2 : 6/13/2019 10:28 am
Is it time to give up on him or hold out hope?

Has to be the worst and biggest decline I've seen for someone who finished tied for 3rd in MVP voting two years in a row.

Unfortunately this also goes back to last August as well and is not just this season where he's slumping.
what does giving up mean?  
robbieballs2003 : 6/13/2019 10:30 am : link
dropping? trading?

I have him and neither make any sense. Players almost always return to the norm so it makes sense to just ride out the slump. The SBs are nice though.
Either one, robbie  
bigblue5611_2 : 6/13/2019 10:34 am : link
I have him as well, this would be the third year in a row I have him. I've pretty much relegated him to the bench unless I have an open spot due to other players having the day off.

I had Scooter Gennett but dropped him due to other injuries, was thinking of picking him back up with him looking like he'll be getting it going soon. My choices to drop are Molina, Garver, David Fletcher or maybe trade Ramirez and Clint Frazier for a P. I was able to pick up Yordan Alvarez and do not want to drop him (keeper league where keeping a FA pickup only loses your last pick).
Gary Sanchez 2018 = Jose Ramirez 2019  
Greg from LI : 6/13/2019 10:37 am : link
When a guy has established himself to the degree Ramirez has, a terrible first half is something you should just ride out.
Dropping him is insanity unless you are in an extremely small league.  
robbieballs2003 : 6/13/2019 10:41 am : link
Trading depends on what you are getting back. If you get shitty offers then no. If you get a guy that'll give you something significant albiet less than what he would have gotten early in the season then that is a decision you have to make. Me? I'm riding this slump out.
Good comparison, Greg  
bigblue5611_2 : 6/13/2019 10:42 am : link
Between Ramirez and the injuries my team has had (Gennett to start, Judge, Gallo, Pham, Weaver, Williams, Molina) and Mikolas shitting the bed so far, it's been an interesting first half...
RE: Gary Sanchez 2018 = Jose Ramirez 2019  
CromartiesKid21 : 6/13/2019 11:02 am : link
In comment 14471026 Greg from LI said:
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When a guy has established himself to the degree Ramirez has, a terrible first half is something you should just ride out.


That's as lazy as it gets for comparisons sake. Sanchez had an unbelievably low BABIP and was hitting the ball very hard last year.

Ramirez on Statcast, hard hit rate is just brutal.
Just stash him on the bench  
Dave in PA : 6/13/2019 11:09 am : link
It’s not likely that you’ll get a waiver claim or free agent pickup that’s worth the risk of losing out on JRam’s eventual (potential?) hot streak. He truly has been awful this year and a good chunk of the second half of last year too. Glad I took Bregman over him!
Dont mean to hijack the thread  
terz22 : 6/13/2019 11:18 am : link
But what about paddock after being sent down. I got some injuries and not really crazy about a wasted roster spot waiting for a guy to come back up.
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arcarsenal : 6/13/2019 11:26 am : link
I had the 5th pick in a h2h points league and was seriously considering taking him there - I opted for Acuna instead.

Ramirez then almost made it back to me in round 2. I was salivating at the thought of Acuna/JRam as my first two players - but JRam got taken the pick before me and I wound up taking Javy Baez instead.

I'd say that worked out quite well. I was concerned with the way Ramirez finished last year on top of the fact that he was a bit banged up. There was a FBB thread a little before the season where we were talking about JRam specifically a bit and that was why I passed on him @ 5.

There's really no option right now. You can't drop him. You just have to hope he has a strong 2nd half and finds his groove.

He's scuffling. No real way around it. A wRC+ of 55 is dreadful for him. But he's so much better than this.

My lineup is pretty much unfair right now...

Willson Contreras
Eddy Encarnacion
Javy Baez
Anthony Rendon
Corey Seager
Ronald Acuna Jr.
Ketel Marte
Eloy Jimenez
Rafael Devers
Fernando Tatis Jr
DJ LeMahieu
Matt Chapman
Yordan Alvarez

It's only 10 teams - but even in a 10 team, this is a monster.

My pitching isn't quite as good, but it's good enough... 8-2 through 10 weeks. I'll take it.
I picked up Ketel Marte when he was hot  
bigblue5611_2 : 6/13/2019 11:34 am : link
dropped him a few days later when he was slumping and of course someone else got him. Figures.

As it stands I have

Yadier Molina
Mitch Garver
Pete Alonso
Tommy La Stella
David Fletcher
Trevor Story
Clint Frazier
Charlie Blackmon
Avisail Garcia
Dansby Swanson
Tommy Pham
Yordan Alvarez
Eugenio Suarez
Jose Ramirez
Joey Gallo
Arron Judge (DL spot)

I'll have to drop 1 of them when Judge and Gallo come back unless somone else goes on the DL.

7-3 through 10 weeks, though it's points based standings so I'm in 5th and 12 GB right now.


I’d give an answer  
superspynyg : 6/13/2019 11:41 am : link
But I absolutely suck at fantasy baseball. Every decision I make is wrong.
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arcarsenal : 6/13/2019 11:44 am : link
Ketel is having a heck of a breakout year. He's also 2B/SS/OF eligible in Yahoo, which is awesome. I can plug him in all over the place.

And although I'm happy about it for my fantasy team, Alvarez looks like he's going to be a big problem. 2 games, already 2 HR's. Guy is a monster. Not thrilled about the 'Stros having another big young bat entering the equation. They're going to be very tough to get through in the AL again this year.
arc  
bigblue5611_2 : 6/13/2019 11:50 am : link
Agreed on Alvarez. Rich keep getting richer, I blame the Dodgers.

As for Marte, the flexibility was one of the reasons I got him, consolations is at least having La Stella (2b and 3b) and Fletcher (2b, 3b, SS and OF). Fletcher isn't giving much in the way of power but has a solid .308 avg. and only 15 K's in 221 AB's and some other solid metrics.
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Dave in PA : 6/13/2019 11:52 am : link
In comment 14471117 arcarsenal said:
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Ketel is having a heck of a breakout year. He's also 2B/SS/OF eligible in Yahoo, which is awesome. I can plug him in all over the place.

And although I'm happy about it for my fantasy team, Alvarez looks like he's going to be a big problem. 2 games, already 2 HR's. Guy is a monster. Not thrilled about the 'Stros having another big young bat entering the equation. They're going to be very tough to get through in the AL again this year.
The Astro’s literally have too many good young players. Kyle Tucker is another kid that in most other organizations would already be playing OF in the big leagues. Springer is hurt and there’s still no room for Tucker. Unreal. Bastards
you can't trade him because your return  
Jints in Carolina : 6/13/2019 12:18 pm : link
will be pennies on the dollar. Ride it out.
RE: RE: .  
arcarsenal : 6/13/2019 3:11 pm : link
In comment 14471125 Dave in PA said:
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In comment 14471117 arcarsenal said:


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Ketel is having a heck of a breakout year. He's also 2B/SS/OF eligible in Yahoo, which is awesome. I can plug him in all over the place.

And although I'm happy about it for my fantasy team, Alvarez looks like he's going to be a big problem. 2 games, already 2 HR's. Guy is a monster. Not thrilled about the 'Stros having another big young bat entering the equation. They're going to be very tough to get through in the AL again this year.

The Astro’s literally have too many good young players. Kyle Tucker is another kid that in most other organizations would already be playing OF in the big leagues. Springer is hurt and there’s still no room for Tucker. Unreal. Bastards


Embarrassment of riches over there. They have pitching, too. Going to be a heck of a challenge to get past them this year.

For the Yanks to win it all, they'll probably have to not only take the Astros down, but they'll probably run into the Dodgers if they even manage to do that... which won't be any easier. Ryu is unhittable right now and that lineup is the best in baseball at this point.

That said... many things can and will change as we progress through the season. Should be a fun summer/fall.
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Dave in PA : 6/13/2019 3:43 pm : link
In comment 14471326 arcarsenal said:
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In comment 14471125 Dave in PA said:


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In comment 14471117 arcarsenal said:


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Ketel is having a heck of a breakout year. He's also 2B/SS/OF eligible in Yahoo, which is awesome. I can plug him in all over the place.

And although I'm happy about it for my fantasy team, Alvarez looks like he's going to be a big problem. 2 games, already 2 HR's. Guy is a monster. Not thrilled about the 'Stros having another big young bat entering the equation. They're going to be very tough to get through in the AL again this year.

The Astro’s literally have too many good young players. Kyle Tucker is another kid that in most other organizations would already be playing OF in the big leagues. Springer is hurt and there’s still no room for Tucker. Unreal. Bastards



Embarrassment of riches over there. They have pitching, too. Going to be a heck of a challenge to get past them this year.

For the Yanks to win it all, they'll probably have to not only take the Astros down, but they'll probably run into the Dodgers if they even manage to do that... which won't be any easier. Ryu is unhittable right now and that lineup is the best in baseball at this point.

That said... many things can and will change as we progress through the season. Should be a fun summer/fall.
Yes it’s a tall order, but at least there will be the obligatory crushing of the Twins dreams along the way.
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