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TEPLimey : 6/13/2019 11:49 am
I hope a few knowledgeable members (perhaps those who went through a recent dishwasher purchase themselves) can weigh in with their dishwasher recommendations. We are in the market for a new dishwasher.

Aside from the standard stuff (functionality and level of noise) we are looking for a reliable brand with stainless steel (inside and out) and only 24" models that come with a third cutlery rack. Wifi capability is completely superfluous to us. We would like to keep the cost below $1,000, including tax, delivery, and hauling away our old unit.

We are considering the Bosch 300 and 500 series, as well as some of the LG models with Quadwash. But these are just based off of some disjointed internet research.

Does anyone have any thoughts or guidance? Thanks in advance.
I've heard nothing but...  
Ryan : 6/13/2019 11:51 am : link
...good about Bosch.
Love our Bosch  
BillT : 6/13/2019 11:54 am : link
Have had to repair it though. They had a design flaw in the control board. I replaced it myself but had to get a repair guy when the pump failed. Nothing is perfect.
I have a Frigidaire  
pjcas18 : 6/13/2019 11:58 am : link
and it's fine, nothing wrong with it per se, but the only advice I will offer you is see how long a full wash cycle takes.

On my Frigidaire it seems like it takes a half a day to wash, dry, sanitize - whatever that means.

and when I replace this one, I will look for something faster.

My wife is very neurotic. She cannot go to sleep at night with a dirty dish anywhere in our house so that dishwasher is seemingly constantly running.

She's like this with the laundry too.
my wife used to be in the appliance industry  
UConn4523 : 6/13/2019 12:00 pm : link
so she's great with this stuff. We are building a house now and just picked our appliances - we are going with Bosch SHP865WD5N for a couple reasons. 1, its one of the top rated in the price range and 2. it matches the rest of our appliances.
pjcas  
UConn4523 : 6/13/2019 12:01 pm : link
my last house had a Samsung and I'll never get one. Took 3 hours for a wash + dry - awful.
Might get some good deals for the fourth  
eli4life : 6/13/2019 12:01 pm : link
Also how’s some of your other appliances might get a package deal when I bought my house two years ago I replaced everything washer/dryer stove microwave fridge dishwasher installed and extended warranty for 5300 and when the rebates came back it came to just under 3500
We have a Bosch (our old dishwasher sprung a leak)  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 6/13/2019 12:09 pm : link
It is fine. But they all are not as good as the old ones. They are much more efficient but take much longer per cycle (2H 9M) and don't wash as well. I have to say that I am pretty disappointed by the performance of these versus the dishwashers of 15 years ago. But it meets the new government regs....
dishwashers in general are tough  
UConn4523 : 6/13/2019 12:13 pm : link
because that all need to meet those energy requirements which is why they take so long and seem like they aren't well made. Really just have to read reviews to get a feel for what's good. Its not a like a fridge where your preference (french, top/bottom freezer, counter depth, etc.) impact it so heavily.
I bought a GE Adora  
antdog24 : 6/13/2019 12:16 pm : link
with the third rack option for silverware and a Stainless steel tub. I really have no complaints, the thing is super efficient and does a much better job than the Whirlpool gold model it replaced.
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Great insight - thanks for everything so far.  
TEPLimey : 6/13/2019 12:19 pm : link
This is one reason why BBI is great.

We are definitely going to hold out for the 4th, but we figure its best to be ready to pull the trigger then rather than start research at that point.

UConn, may ask what put the Bosch SHP865WD5N model over the top for you and your wife?
RE: dishwashers in general are tough  
Jim in Fairfax : 6/13/2019 12:27 pm : link
In comment 14471150 UConn4523 said:
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because that all need to meet those energy requirements which is why they take so long and seem like they aren't well made. Really just have to read reviews to get a feel for what's good. Its not a like a fridge where your preference (french, top/bottom freezer, counter depth, etc.) impact it so heavily.

Longer wash cycles and poorer performance have more to do with the detergents than the washers. Phosphates were banned from detergents a few years ago, which reduced washing performance especially if you have hard water. The current detergents rely on enzymes which need a longer a wash cycle to be effective. The top quality detergents do a pretty good job now, though in hard water they still can’t scour pots well.
Another vote for Bosch  
jlukes : 6/13/2019 12:33 pm : link
So quiet and so good at cleaning
RE: Great insight - thanks for everything so far.  
UConn4523 : 6/13/2019 12:43 pm : link
In comment 14471160 TEPLimey said:
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This is one reason why BBI is great.

We are definitely going to hold out for the 4th, but we figure its best to be ready to pull the trigger then rather than start research at that point.

UConn, may ask what put the Bosch SHP865WD5N model over the top for you and your wife?


My wife used to work for Electrolux so she knows all these products really well. It’s a combination of great performance in this price range as well as matching our other appliances (one of which is a Bosch fridge).
Also  
UConn4523 : 6/13/2019 12:44 pm : link
it’s apparently incredibly quiet which can be a big factor for anyone with an open concept and/or a small child who’s room is close to it. Or just in general since a loud dishwasher just sucks.
RE: Also  
jlukes : 6/13/2019 12:46 pm : link
In comment 14471191 UConn4523 said:
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it’s apparently incredibly quiet which can be a big factor for anyone with an open concept and/or a small child who’s room is close to it. Or just in general since a loud dishwasher just sucks.


They are soooo quiet. In fact they have a red light that shines on the floor to let you know it's on.

My family room and kitchen are open concept, and we can't hear the dishwasher at all
GE adora = Crap  
AnnapolisMike : 6/13/2019 12:49 pm : link
circuit boards going bad after a few years. Looks good...but they have issues. Mine went bad and I know a few others who have had the same problem. If you get it...plan on and extended warranty or setting aside $300 in two years.
I went GE about a year and a half ago  
aimrocky : 6/13/2019 12:51 pm : link
to match our other appliances. I probably won't go back to GE the next time we make the change. The wash cycle is really long and loading rack is awkward.
I think Dishwashers today are pretty straight forward  
PatersonPlank : 6/13/2019 12:58 pm : link
They all work. Its picking the right size, features, speed, quietness, etc. that you want. I went Kitchen Aid and its been great. Super quiet and works well.
Here ya go  
BlueLou'sBack : 6/13/2019 1:00 pm : link
Second or third try via google search.











Bosch 500 series - ( New Window )
Gotta Bosch recently, meh...  
trueblueinpw : 6/13/2019 1:05 pm : link
It’s okay, but nothing ever gets dry and it’s a pain in the ass to load. Aside from that, it’s easy to clean the filter and it gets dishes clean and it’s super quite, seems well built, easy to install and operate. Got it at Lowe’s on sale around 600 maybe 700?
We have an LG  
jjgmrg901 : 6/13/2019 1:13 pm : link
We have the 24" Stainless steel and stainless steel tub. It is really nice. Extremely quiet. It took me a few times but I realized it was on after I opened it.
One thing we had to get used to was when the wash is completed including drying there are three pings. This took a few times to get used to that nothing was wrong.
We got ours at Best Buy over a July 4th sale. It was best price plus they give you a bunch of Best Buy dollars which you can use on other purchases.
Good Luck
just bought the LG floor model at home depot  
Gordo : 6/13/2019 1:18 pm : link
our old GE was POS never again will i buy another GE.

The LG has a lot of bells and whistles like WIFI and other crap that you probably will never need. I can see having WIFI be useful if you could actually control things, but it's just for notifications and to download custom wash cycles.

The one thing I absolutely love, is the adjustable middle rack and all of the racks are customizable. You can flip the tines down to accommodate any configuration which is nice touch.

The 3rd rack on the top is also a fantastic addition, no longer have to figure out how to fit a ladle or a long knife.

Another thing I will mention is, it's very quiet, I can barely hear it running.
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Bought a Bosch  
Scott in Montreal : 6/13/2019 1:22 pm : link
About 11 months ago.

Best dishwasher I have ever owned. So quiet. The only way I know it is on is by the display and when I hear the water going into the drain in the sink.

We've had our Bosch for 10 years,  
Section331 : 6/13/2019 2:14 pm : link
and still works great. It is amazingly quiet. I continually open it to put something in not realizing it was running.
Had a Bosch - was good.  
mattlawson : 6/13/2019 2:16 pm : link
On recommendations went with whirlpool Gold when that first one failed. We ordered a Bosch on memorial day and I am expecting it any minute - going to sell the whirlpool on Craigslist. It works but it’s long and not nearly as thorough as the Bosch
Never breaks down and has multiple OTHER functions  
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RE: Never breaks down and has multiple OTHER functions  
Beer Man : 6/13/2019 3:11 pm : link
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LOL
I’d have no interest in any Whirlpool product.  
Giant John : 6/13/2019 5:15 pm : link
Watch out as they manufacture under 5 different product lines. Go with the Bosch.
We have a Bosch  
VTChuck : 6/13/2019 5:40 pm : link
and we like it. Very Quiet.

We're moving to a new house in August that will have all new Whirlpool appliances.

Smaller, open plan, so I am concerned about noise levels, but with only 2 of us, we won't be running it as often.
I've had Bosch and Miele  
xman : 6/13/2019 5:45 pm : link
both quiet and good machines
Bosch, or Thermador, which is a Bosch with the Thermador label.  
yatqb : 6/13/2019 5:51 pm : link
We bought a Thermador stove and got a $1000 rebate with which we bought the Thermador dishwasher. Very quiet and does a fine job.
Bosch  
eric2425ny : 6/13/2019 8:23 pm : link
You will love it.
Third rack  
Jim in Fairfax : 6/13/2019 8:33 pm : link
Get a washer with a third rack if possible. I was dubious of the usefulness given its small size, but it’s fantastic.
We bought a KitchenAid  
section125 : 6/13/2019 8:59 pm : link
that is so quiet (39 db) you cannot hear it. It cleans ok and is about a 2 hr cycle, too. Flipped a coin between it and the Bosch which was 44 db. The boss wishes we got the Bosch. Both models were about $950 but had rebates so the KitchenAid was $850 and the Bosch $900.
And I agree that the detergent makes a difference. Always thought Cascade was the best but Finish seems to do best with this machine.

FWIW, we had a inexpensive Frigidaire with a plastic tub that was just great. Most likely cleaned better than the Kitchenaid. It was the baskets that eventually rusted out and fell apart.
A nice thing about the Thermador (and I assume that the Bosch  
yatqb : 6/13/2019 10:20 pm : link
models have this as well) is that they have a Quick cycle (70 minutes) that does just fine. And you won't hear it even if you're standing next to it.
RE: We bought a KitchenAid  
eric2425ny : 6/13/2019 11:10 pm : link
In comment 14471525 section125 said:
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that is so quiet (39 db) you cannot hear it. It cleans ok and is about a 2 hr cycle, too. Flipped a coin between it and the Bosch which was 44 db. The boss wishes we got the Bosch. Both models were about $950 but had rebates so the KitchenAid was $850 and the Bosch $900.
And I agree that the detergent makes a difference. Always thought Cascade was the best but Finish seems to do best with this machine.

FWIW, we had a inexpensive Frigidaire with a plastic tub that was just great. Most likely cleaned better than the Kitchenaid. It was the baskets that eventually rusted out and fell apart.


Yup, we had the same issue with a builder basic GE. Thing was loud as hell but did a great job cleaning the dishes. However, the racks would rust out every 2-3 years and we finally decided to just get a better brand dishwasher. Ended up getting a Bosch in December, no regrets.
Thanks everyone  
TEPLimey : 6/14/2019 9:29 am : link
for the great insight. I really appreciate it. Based on what everyone has said, I can't help but think a Bosch 500 series is the way to go.

on our second bosch  
haper : 6/14/2019 10:44 am : link
and they both performed well. I guess my only issue is each was the flat all stainless front so you have no feedback as to what stage the dishwasher is in / how much time was left. I've seen other manufacturers that project a light on the floor, maybe bosch has added that since our purchase. Oh, and my wife occasionally complains it doesn't have an option to not use heated drying, not sure why she would need that that tho.
Completely disspointed with Bosch  
WideRight : 6/14/2019 11:06 am : link
Paid top dollar. It sucked and broke down with in three years. We replaced it with a midrange model that has performed much better.
RE: Love our Bosch  
Jim in Forest Hills : 6/14/2019 12:28 pm : link
In comment 14471128 BillT said:
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Have had to repair it though. They had a design flaw in the control board. I replaced it myself but had to get a repair guy when the pump failed. Nothing is perfect.


I had the same issue with mine. Control board fried itself (you could smell it). Had it replaced and has been ok.
here yuo go  
rnargi : 6/14/2019 12:55 pm : link
RE: Never breaks down and has multiple OTHER functions  
eli4life : 6/14/2019 1:40 pm : link
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That is sooo inaccurate because when she does break down you wish it only cost you a few hundred bucks
our Bosch is 12 years old now  
gidiefor : Mod : 6/14/2019 8:45 pm : link
it's a beautiful thing -- I never knew dishwashers could be so quiet.

I love it!
Bosch  
Bleedin Blue : 6/14/2019 9:12 pm : link
Quiet A F cleans great, drys great. I have open concept kitchen and I never know it’s on! Model# SHEM3AY55N Lowe’s hasit for 539$
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