NFT: The Knicks...in the Second Round

I don't see him as a NBA starter, but I think he can have a long, successful career as a microwave guy off the bench. I think he's a better shooter than his numbers show because his shot selection was often questionable. Excellent free throw shooter. Very competitive. Underrated ability to create for teammates. My biggest knocks against him are consistency of defensive effort and streaky shooting.

we can use some Cash to buy another second round pick or two. Atlanta has three second round picks (on top of 3 first round picks) and the 76ers also have 4 second round picks.

Second me as a fan of Jaylon Hands, he is athletic and has a nice shot. Possible he is there with out 2nd pick

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He wasn't great last year but he was stuck on a terrible Wake team with a terrible coach in Danny Manning. He's young and a good athlete with good length (7'1" wingspan) and quickness who could potentially guard 2-4 in the NBA, and he does have some skills offensively despite his mediocre output as a freshman.

Not that this will surprise anyone, but if you're looking for a sharpshooter, Kyle Guy is my man. Yes, he's small, very small for an NBA 2. He might be able to fake some point, but it's hard to tell because Virginia never used him that way. What he does have is a lightning quick release, much better athleticism than people think, and a terrific all-around game. Quality passer. Averaged 4.5 boards a game despite his lack of size. Tenacious competitor, all the intangibles you could ever want.

And draft Darius Bazley. He reminds of Mitch's story. He was a 5 star recruit, played in all the All Star games and camps but ultimately decided to sit out the year and train for the draft. Long wingspan, front court versatility and can shoot outside.

PG Jordan Bone of Tennessee at #55, with Hoard getting picked just before us at #53.

Won't be a star but a smart, heady player, who will be a rotation guy. Might go end of first but could fall to beginning of second

I'd like that

Maybe Luka Samanic

He'd be an excellent bench guard for a contender. Smart, great passer, very good shooter, ice in his veins.

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I don't really get that unless they expect to trade Mitch for AD or something. But what do I know?

All depends what we do.

throw a dart at a Baltic State or a country south of Czech Republic and take their best player....

In comment 14471272 FatMan in Charlotte said:

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throw a dart at a Baltic State or a country south of Czech Republic and take their best player....

Or if there is a star from one of those countries in the NBA just take his brother.

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In comment 14471272 FatMan in Charlotte said: Quote: throw a dart at a Baltic State or a country south of Czech Republic and take their best player.... Or if there is a star from one of those countries in the NBA just take his brother.

I've had my fill of brothers of stars from that area.

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In comment 14471287 Stu11 said: Quote: In comment 14471272 FatMan in Charlotte said: Quote: throw a dart at a Baltic State or a country south of Czech Republic and take their best player.... Or if there is a star from one of those countries in the NBA just take his brother. I've had my fill of brothers of stars from that area.

True. is Giannis bro still playing for Westchester? The guy is a Gleague lifer.

late first or early second. I think they like Taco and I can see why. Another name I have not seen in any mocks and I do not know why is Aubrey Dawkins. I like him late second.

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In comment 14471215 Anakim said: Quote: . I don't really get that unless they expect to trade Mitch for AD or something. But what do I know?

I don't think Tacko is destined to be a 40 minute a game guy. For me, he's probably best used as a mismatch in shorter bursts, kinda like how coaches use Boban to come in and fuck shit up and then back to the bench he goes.

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late first or early second. I think they like Taco and I can see why. Another name I have not seen in any mocks and I do not know why is Aubrey Dawkins. I like him late second.

Well, he's 24. But yeah, I thought Dawkins was pretty impressive last year. Skilled and very competitive. Even though he had one of the most excruciating misses I've ever seen against Duke.

Not having that 31st pick to make room for Travis Ware is one last nice parting gift from Phil Jackson. He was a true disaster.

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Not having that 31st pick to make room for Travis Ware is one last nice parting gift from Phil Jackson. He was a true disaster.

thank you
for that pick

Knicks and nets still interested in signing durant and kyrie together

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Knicks and nets still interested in signing durant and kyrie together

KD (let him heal) and Kemba or Kyrie, bring back Jordan and try to buy a 2nd round pick or two. Draft RJ and lets build this team

Canadian kid who when he was on was unstoppable. Did not play up to expectations but stayed in the draft after some dominant camp performances. Big sleeper - I have seen him sneaking into the end of the first to not getting picked in mocks. I think he ends up being a steal for someone in the second.

Barrett's outstanding freshman season is not only one of the best in Duke's history, but it also measures up with some of the best freshman campaigns in NCAA history. One freshman season, in particular, is that of Carmelo Anthony, who led Syracuse to a National Championship in his lone college season.

Comparing freshman seasons
Season PTS REB AST TS%
Carmelo Anthony 2002-03 22.2 10.0 2.2 53.7
RJ Barrett 2018-19 22.6 7.6 4.3 53.2

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Barrett's outstanding freshman season is not only one of the best in Duke's history, but it also measures up with some of the best freshman campaigns in NCAA history. One freshman season, in particular, is that of Carmelo Anthony, who led Syracuse to a National Championship in his lone college season. Comparing freshman seasons Season PTS REB AST TS% Carmelo Anthony 2002-03 22.2 10.0 2.2 53.7 RJ Barrett 2018-19 22.6 7.6 4.3 53.2

Interesting... Melo's percentages weren't far off from Barrett's and Barrett is already a better/more willing passer.

Sure sounds like Kemba will remain in Charlotte

like RJ, think he can be a special player. He was the top recruit in the Nation a year ago

teams in contact with NO regarding Davis, Portland believed to be one of them, Denver possibly as well.

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like RJ, think he can be a special player. He was the top recruit in the Nation a year ago

Jahlil Okafor was the consensus top HS prospect in his class also

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teams in contact with NO regarding Davis, Portland believed to be one of them, Denver possibly as well.

It would make sense for a team like these two to land him. There's a window open with Durant's injury where the rental could be worthwhile and Denver specifically could easily outdo LA and likely Boston.

I watched a lot of Duke games and I don't remember seeing any particularly impressive playmaking out of Barrett.

Are they kidding? They could trade for AD, add a legit piece in free agency and play in the conference finals next season (at least), and they're hung up on Kuzma? I'll assume they're just posturing as long as they can.

I really do not get it..

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Sure sounds like Kemba will remain in Charlotte

Crazy how he is saving Michael Jordan the billionaire on luxury tax money.

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I watched a lot of Duke games and I don't remember seeing any particularly impressive playmaking out of Barrett.

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I really do not get it..

Ramona Shelburne said today that reports about Kuzma being a holdup in the deal aren't true fwiw. Her and Stein are both excellent reporters so who knows what is or isn't true

How many of those were him throwing the ball up for Zion to go up and get?

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In comment 14471381 nygiants16 said: Quote: I really do not get it.. Ramona Shelburne said today that reports about Kuzma being a holdup in the deal aren't true fwiw. Her and Stein are both excellent reporters so who knows what is or isn't true

Shelbourne also will never report badly on the lakers, she is a mouthpiece for jeanie buss. She kills every person who has had a domestic violence and yet she defended jason kidd because he was hired by the lakers...

The next bad report she has on the lakers will be the first

I'm not saying he's Magic Johnson but he showed some high IQ passes here-
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How many of those were him throwing the ball up for Zion to go up and get?

I didn't count but I'm not sure why that matters. He has good vision and operates well out of the pnr. That should be more apparent with NBA spacing and some better shooters around him Who else is he supposed to execute that with on that Duke team? He averaged more assists in the games without Zion than he did with Zion anyways. Plus he's going to have this guy to execute that with at the next level.
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but he becomes our best young player the moment he puts the Knicks baseball cap on his head next week. Giving the way this offseason is going, we better pray he's a stud.

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but he becomes our best young player the moment he puts the Knicks baseball cap on his head next week. Giving the way this offseason is going, we better pray he's a stud.

Which is why the Knicks are fucked.

was a bit of a mythical exaggeration.

He was an excellent player, but Barrett was also an excellent player who took over several games while Zion was out or having a lull.

And when the loss to Michigan St. was hanging in the balance, it was Zion missing two shots in the paint and missing two FT's.

Ironically, both guys averaged exactly the same - 22.6ppg

says Durant is expected to sit out the entire season.

One gripe I have about Scott Perry is he talked a lot about knowing what a championship team looks like due to his time in Detroit, but that team played defense and shared the basketball. Guys like Knox, Barrett and Smith Jr. don't do a whole lot of either, and those are three of the four biggest building blocks on the roster (along with Mitch). I'm a little skeptical at the moment.

I don't think it's a big deal if they take him over Barrett

When is Durant’s opt out deadline?

have to be absolutely positive Barrett isn't Harden or even DeRozen to get cutesy and pass on him at 3.

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When is Durant’s opt out deadline?

29th

He has dominated at every level so far. I actually think he is upside is the highest in the draft, if he actually reaches it. I feel like Memphis will end up taking him at 2.

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was a bit of a mythical exaggeration. He was an excellent player, but Barrett was also an excellent player who took over several games while Zion was out or having a lull. And when the loss to Michigan St. was hanging in the balance, it was Zion missing two shots in the paint and missing two FT's. Ironically, both guys averaged exactly the same - 22.6ppg

RJ blew a game in the clutch as well. Barrett's selfishness cost Duke the game against Duke. He completely shat the bed in the closing minutes, including a final block by Rui on Barrett. If Barrett had passed it to an open Delaurier, Duke would've sent the game into OT.

So on one hand you admire Barrett's aggressiveness and his desire to be the clutch hero, but on the other hand he takes so many unnecessary and poor shots down in the winding minutes that you would think he was Melo.

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"Duke against Duke" Haha, Duke against GONZAGA

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says Durant is expected to sit out the entire season.

Dan, was there really any doubt about this? If there were a scheduled return in '19-20, it would be so late in the season, and he would be working off rust and scar tissue, why push that envelope?

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I had zero doubt but some were pointing to players like Mathews who came back after 7 or 8, some of the writers were even suggesting he might be back. I personally thought it was a given.

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He has dominated at every level so far. I actually think he is upside is the highest in the draft, if he actually reaches it. I feel like Memphis will end up taking him at 2.

Really would be shocked but would love for that to happen. I'm trying to sell myself on Barrett but gimme Ja.

Kyrie is expected to sign with the Nets (as expected). Also said that in May Kyrie wanted Brooklyn but Durant was heavily leaning towards signing with the Knicks. Who knows if the injury has changed his plans but we'll find out in two weeks.

But this constant shitting on anything positive about Barrett is getting almost pathological. He gets 18 assists in 2 games and you brush it off as a bunch of alley oops to Zion? I guess Magic's million assists to maybe the greatest Center of all time for unstoppable sky hooks don't count either. Virtually every GM in the NBA would sprint to the podium to pick him #3. A number of the would probably take him at #2 but we're fucked if we take him????

played in long island last year.
Justin Wright-Foreman of Hofstra
worked out for the Knicks yesterday, actually.

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played in long island last year. Justin Wright-Foreman of Hofstra worked out for the Knicks yesterday, actually.

One of my alma maters. Let's go, Justin.