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NFT: The KISS solo albums in 1978.

Beezer : 6/13/2019 1:33 pm
My brother, age 9 in '78, was a KISS freak, somehow. I was 14 when the solo albums were released, not as big a fan, but since they played on a loop in our house and my brother and I shared a room, it was inevitable that I'd become a big fan.

Saw them twice in concert. No makeup, early 1990s, Deer Creek Music Center, Indianapolis, and they really, really sucked. Then later 1990s, in Binghamton (Ted Nugent opened for them), with the makeup back on and they ROCKED! Great show!

But back to the solo albums. Listening to them today on headphones at work, I've gotten through Paul Stanley's and Ace Frehley's. While there are a few decent tunes on Paul's, it's weighed down IMO by a bunch of sticky-sweet love songs that make this listener angry (I'm sure not the intent).

Ace's solo album is terrific top to bottom. Of course, everyone on BBI is familiar with his "hit" New York Groove, even if you didn't know it was from a KISS solo album. But I recommend listening to the rest of the record. Lots of good stuff, including the instrumental I linked.

Going to re-listen to Peter Criss's and Gene Simmons' solo albums either today or tomorrow. Just wanted to bring these back for some of you, and for others, give you a heads up, if interested.
Ace's solo album, really underrated. This song anchors it. - ( New Window )
By the way ...  
Beezer : 6/13/2019 1:47 pm : link
... just learned that Anton Fig (of David Letterman's band) played drums on Frehley's solo record.
Been a KISS fan  
BIG FRED 1973 : 6/13/2019 1:50 pm : link
since i was 4 years old ,I love Ace's the best of course but Paul's is good also .Gene's is meh and so is Peter's BTW i cant believe Dynasty is 40 years old .I remember getting it and playing it on my fisher price record player .Does anyone in NY remember when the NY Post had the KISS Hotline when Dynasty was released and you called the number and a member of KISS answered ,it was a recording of course but it was cool ,i remember cutting them out of the paper and giving them to kids in my Kindergarten class lmfao
I've always meant to listen to the full Ace album  
Gap92 : 6/13/2019 2:07 pm : link
I will do that soon.

On a related note, I recently made it through the full album of "The Elder." It is certainly bad, but mostly because it's boring. So it's not as hilariously awful as I hoped. There are some hilarious moments on it though (Paul's falsetto on "I am just a boooyyyy" or whatever song has the line about "you and I on wing-ed flight"...and a bunch of others).
I really like  
BIG FRED 1973 : 6/13/2019 2:11 pm : link
World without heroes and I from Music from The elder .They made up for it on Creatures of the Night .That is a great album imo
RE: By the way ...  
schabadoo : 6/13/2019 2:13 pm : link
In comment 14471255 Beezer said:
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... just learned that Anton Fig (of David Letterman's band) played drums on Frehley's solo record.


That was nice thing about catching them in NY, Anton played the date. Scalped 2nd row tickets at the Beacon.
Anton live with Frehley's Comet - ( New Window )
KISS was the shit  
Steve L : 6/13/2019 2:20 pm : link
When I was younger. I saw them twice without the makeup, the big 96 reunion tour and I think once more after that. Iíd love to take my kids (theyíre 18) to see them but itís more a joke now.

Then and now, Aceís solo was the only one I liked. His music with Frehleyís Comet was pretty good too.

As a band, I didnít mind Lick It Up. Has some good tunes on it (Fits Like a Glove for example) and Creatures was a classic But Elder was terrible.
RE: I've always meant to listen to the full Ace album  
jnoble : 6/13/2019 2:51 pm : link
In comment 14471269 Gap92 said:
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I will do that soon.

On a related note, I recently made it through the full album of "The Elder." It is certainly bad, but mostly because it's boring. So it's not as hilariously awful as I hoped. There are some hilarious moments on it though (Paul's falsetto on "I am just a boooyyyy" or whatever song has the line about "you and I on wing-ed flight"...and a bunch of others).

There are bands that did epic prog rock concept albums well. Rush for example.
However KISS was not one of those bands
Kiss  
Gman11 : 6/13/2019 2:59 pm : link
was one of the bands that helped get you through the disco era.

I had no interest, though in the separate albums. I figured the Criss and Simmons ones wouldn't be worth listening to.

I've seen them live twice during their many farewell tours. Put on a good show.
Love Kiss - I even like the "discoy" stuff like I as Made for Loving  
PatersonPlank : 6/13/2019 3:06 pm : link
You and Forever.

For me the classics are Strutter, Love Gun, Lick it Up, Black Diamond, Cmon and Love Me, and I Stole Your Love.
RE: Love Kiss - I even like the  
PatersonPlank : 6/13/2019 3:09 pm : link
In comment 14471319 PatersonPlank said:
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You and Forever.

For me the classics are Strutter, Love Gun, Lick it Up, Black Diamond, Cmon and Love Me, and I Stole Your Love.


Meant to also add that as a big KISS fan, I never liked any of the 4 solo albums. For me its full KISS or nothing.
KISS ALIVE!  
x meadowlander : 6/13/2019 3:20 pm : link
Album was all the rage in 6th grade. By 77', I had begun my life-long love affair with Led Zeppelin and was fully on board with the fact that like Disco, KISS also sucks.

Unfortunately, my parents and other relatives did not catch on quickly enough that I no longer liked KISS and I wound up with Destroyer and the Ace Frehley solo albums (which I traded) and eventually the double platinum album (got stuck with that one).
RE: RE: Love Kiss - I even like the  
x meadowlander : 6/13/2019 3:21 pm : link
In comment 14471322 PatersonPlank said:
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In comment 14471319 PatersonPlank said:


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You and Forever.

For me the classics are Strutter, Love Gun, Lick it Up, Black Diamond, Cmon and Love Me, and I Stole Your Love.



Meant to also add that as a big KISS fan, I never liked any of the 4 solo albums. For me its full KISS or nothing.
Lick It Up is one of the shittiest songs I ever heard.
RE: By the way ...  
Mr. Bungle : 6/13/2019 3:24 pm : link
In comment 14471255 Beezer said:
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... just learned that Anton Fig (of David Letterman's band) played drums on Frehley's solo record.

Anton Fig was the drummer on the Dynasty album, too.
I Had them all  
Jim Bur(n)t : 6/13/2019 3:49 pm : link
Liked Ace's the best. I was a KISS NUT in the 70's... Posters, wearing makeup at concerts, etc. Good times.
Some things to add...  
sb from NYT Forum : 6/13/2019 4:01 pm : link
I recently listened to these again also; a friend and I were trying to take 3 tracks from each to make one good Kiss album.

Iíve always loved Aceís best, just a straight up rocker.

Will Lee from Lettermanís band also played on some of Aceís songs (Ozone, Wiped Out, Iím in Need of Love).

I never listened to Paulís much back in the day, mostly because Hold Me, Touch Me is such garbage. But listening now on the whole I think the album is really good! Itís very much a mid 80s glam metal album, but came out 7 years ahead of its time.

And Itís Alright is the best song on any of the solo albums IMO.

Geneís album could have been good but itís sooooo overproduced. After listening to that album you canít tell me Gene never did drugs; itís a textbook example of what happens with too much cocaine and too much studio time. Thereís like three ok tracks but even the ok ones have something stupid added that ruins them.

Peterís is just hot trash. Funny that even Peter Criss didnít want Peter Criss playing drums on his album.
Ok Kiss fans, If you haven't heard KlassiK 78  
smshmth8690 : 6/13/2019 4:17 pm : link
you have to check them out. They are all Kiss fans, but are not a Kiss tribute, or cover band. They put out an album in the style of Kiss, one that they wish was put out the year Kiss released the solo records. Can't hurt to check them out, it sound remarkably like Kiss.
Klassik 78 - ( New Window )
Just my opinion  
Model4001 : 6/13/2019 4:30 pm : link
but "New York Groove" is a steaming pile of crap. Man does that song irritate.
Fig played drums on all but one Dynasty track  
JonC : 6/13/2019 5:10 pm : link
and he played them on the Unmasked album. Peter Criss rolled his Mercedes at Stewart Airport in 1978, I remember seeing on ABC news they rushed him to the hospital, heand badly struggled with physical ailments and drugs afterward. It got Fig the extra work, uncredited at the time iirc.

Axe's solo album rocked, and I dug Paul's.
Stupid autospell  
JonC : 6/13/2019 5:16 pm : link
My cousin played Klassik78 for me recently, we had a lot of fun listening and reminiscing on 70s classic Kiss, teaching ourselves how to play their tune, etc.
KISS Double Platinum  
Jints in Carolina : 6/13/2019 6:32 pm : link
Was the first album I ever got. Been a KISS fan since.
1978 (could have been '79...not sure)  
Klaatu : 6/13/2019 6:56 pm : link
KISS at MSG. Sat six steps below God. Still an awesome show.
Ace can write a great rock song  
feelflows : 6/13/2019 7:48 pm : link
His contribution to Psycho Circus, "into the void" is the best Kiss song since Destroyer.

Needless to say, that pisses Paul and Gene off.
Ace had the best of the 4.  
Tim in JTown : 6/13/2019 10:21 pm : link
New York Groove may be the worst song on that record.

Gene's solo album sucked.

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