NFT: Radiohead sells recordings after extortion from hacker

i can say this.. I Zimbra is a fucking great song by a band, The Talking Heads, that blows away Radiohead imo.

And so is Radiohead (hence naming themselves Radiohead after the Talking Heads song) and I still think even with the accolades Talking Heads do receive, they are still somewhat underrated.

That being said, they don't blow Radiohead away by any measurement. Radiohead has achieved just as much unique defining music, influence of others and progression in music as the Talking Heads.

If I were talk about pop/rock music as two eras (Before Beatles and After Beatles), I'd argue both are probably in the top 10 most important groups in the After Beatles era.

You might like one of them, both of them or neither of them, but it's a pretty strong bet that your favorite band are big fans of both of them.

Not that what he's doing was alright, pretty slimy to make money from someone else's work. Unreleased work, to boot. And rather than see the guy receive anything they opted to release it. Truth be told, if it's out there someone has already made money from it. Music fans with the money to do so will pay incredible sums of money for unreleased stuff like that. It's a very "Radiohead" move, pretty much exactly what I would've expected them to do tbh.

to "fight the climate crisis" actually goes.

In comment 14471475 j_rud said:

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Not that what he's doing was alright, pretty slimy to make money from someone else's work. Unreleased work, to boot. And rather than see the guy receive anything they opted to release it. Truth be told, if it's out there someone has already made money from it. Music fans with the money to do so will pay incredible sums of money for unreleased stuff like that. It's a very "Radiohead" move, pretty much exactly what I would've expected them to do tbh.

Trying to extort money from a band that had already given away/name your own price one of their best albums is not the best strategy.

Should have tried somebody like Metallica first.

In comment 14471477 pjcas18 said:

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to "fight the climate crisis" actually goes.

Probably right down the hall from where the oil lobby money goes.

In comment 14471473 Motley Two said:

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And so is Radiohead (hence naming themselves Radiohead after the Talking Heads song) and I still think even with the accolades Talking Heads do receive, they are still somewhat underrated. That being said, they don't blow Radiohead away by any measurement. Radiohead has achieved just as much unique defining music, influence of others and progression in music as the Talking Heads. If I were talk about pop/rock music as two eras (Before Beatles and After Beatles), I'd argue both are probably in the top 10 most important groups in the After Beatles era. You might like one of them, both of them or neither of them, but it's a pretty strong bet that your favorite band are big fans of both of them.

I love a good music debate. I think there are ten bands imo better, and more important, than Radiohead - i guess depending on how you define post Beatles.. here are some..

1. VU
2. Stones
3. Zeppelin
4. Floyd
5. The Stooges
6. Sex Pistols
7. The Ramones
8. The Clash
9. Lynyrd Skynyrd
10. The Dead
11. Black Flag
12. Sonic Youth
13. Nirvana
14. The Talking Heads
15. The Pixies

ok there are 15.. i think i could do more including The Minutemen, but i gave you five more in case you want to squabble over the era.. by the way i think the Beatgles are overrated..

because there was a colossal sea change in pop/rock music during their run and there were absolute giants I'm music before them, but how do you measure Buddy Holly or Elvis against Nirvana or Sonic Youth?

You need the bridge that was the Beatles(and the Stones) to even begin.

In comment 14471492 Motley Two said:

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because there was a colossal sea change in pop/rock music during their run and there were absolute giants I'm music before them, but how do you measure Buddy Holly or Elvis against Nirvana or Sonic Youth? You need the bridge that was the Beatles(and the Stones) to even begin.

i hearya.. or Chuck Berry, or Little Richard, or Willie Dixon, or Robert Johnson, or John Lee Hooker...

In comment 14471477 pjcas18 said:

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to "fight the climate crisis" actually goes.

I hope they pay someone to switch back to Man Made Global Warming from Climate Change. It's cold as sh*t this year, and I want to be able to use my pool before "summer" is over.

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In comment 14471477 pjcas18 said: Quote: to "fight the climate crisis" actually goes. I hope they pay someone to switch back to Man Made Global Warming from Climate Change. It's cold as sh*t this year, and I want to be able to use my pool before "summer" is over.

what a dumb comment. Also, ITT: People who have no semblance of how important Radiohead is

In comment 14471484 FranchiseQB said:

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In comment 14471473 Motley Two said: Quote: And so is Radiohead (hence naming themselves Radiohead after the Talking Heads song) and I still think even with the accolades Talking Heads do receive, they are still somewhat underrated. That being said, they don't blow Radiohead away by any measurement. Radiohead has achieved just as much unique defining music, influence of others and progression in music as the Talking Heads. If I were talk about pop/rock music as two eras (Before Beatles and After Beatles), I'd argue both are probably in the top 10 most important groups in the After Beatles era. You might like one of them, both of them or neither of them, but it's a pretty strong bet that your favorite band are big fans of both of them. I love a good music debate. I think there are ten bands imo better, and more important, than Radiohead - i guess depending on how you define post Beatles.. here are some.. 1. VU 2. Stones 3. Zeppelin 4. Floyd 5. The Stooges 6. Sex Pistols 7. The Ramones 8. The Clash 9. Lynyrd Skynyrd 10. The Dead 11. Black Flag 12. Sonic Youth 13. Nirvana 14. The Talking Heads 15. The Pixies ok there are 15.. i think i could do more including The Minutemen, but i gave you five more in case you want to squabble over the era.. by the way i think the Beatgles are overrated..

The Pixies?!

In comment 14471753 Existenz said:

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In comment 14471484 FranchiseQB said: Quote: In comment 14471473 Motley Two said: Quote: And so is Radiohead (hence naming themselves Radiohead after the Talking Heads song) and I still think even with the accolades Talking Heads do receive, they are still somewhat underrated. That being said, they don't blow Radiohead away by any measurement. Radiohead has achieved just as much unique defining music, influence of others and progression in music as the Talking Heads. If I were talk about pop/rock music as two eras (Before Beatles and After Beatles), I'd argue both are probably in the top 10 most important groups in the After Beatles era. You might like one of them, both of them or neither of them, but it's a pretty strong bet that your favorite band are big fans of both of them. I love a good music debate. I think there are ten bands imo better, and more important, than Radiohead - i guess depending on how you define post Beatles.. here are some.. 1. VU 2. Stones 3. Zeppelin 4. Floyd 5. The Stooges 6. Sex Pistols 7. The Ramones 8. The Clash 9. Lynyrd Skynyrd 10. The Dead 11. Black Flag 12. Sonic Youth 13. Nirvana 14. The Talking Heads 15. The Pixies ok there are 15.. i think i could do more including The Minutemen, but i gave you five more in case you want to squabble over the era.. by the way i think the Beatgles are overrated.. The Pixies?!

Yea man The Pixies. An incredible and important band. Without them you don't get Nirvana. They are on a short list of best bands of the eighties.

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In comment 14471477 pjcas18 said: Quote: to "fight the climate crisis" actually goes. I hope they pay someone to switch back to Man Made Global Warming from Climate Change. It's cold as sh*t this year, and I want to be able to use my pool before "summer" is over.

We just got over a 4 day record setting heat spell in the Bay Area. Some records were broken by over 10 degrees. It was 97 in San Francisco... in June!

Climate CHANGE.

The previous comment about summer is moronic.

In comment 14471477 pjcas18 said:

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to "fight the climate crisis" actually goes.

I wondered the same thing. I wish someone would give me some money to fight the climate crisis. I don't know how anyone would be able to fight the climate crisis, but for a million dollars I'd at least try. Or like that industry, I'd yell a lot and blame a lot and not do a lot.

In comment 14471755 FranchiseQB said:

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In comment 14471753 Existenz said: Quote: In comment 14471484 FranchiseQB said: Quote: In comment 14471473 Motley Two said: Quote: And so is Radiohead (hence naming themselves Radiohead after the Talking Heads song) and I still think even with the accolades Talking Heads do receive, they are still somewhat underrated. That being said, they don't blow Radiohead away by any measurement. Radiohead has achieved just as much unique defining music, influence of others and progression in music as the Talking Heads. If I were talk about pop/rock music as two eras (Before Beatles and After Beatles), I'd argue both are probably in the top 10 most important groups in the After Beatles era. You might like one of them, both of them or neither of them, but it's a pretty strong bet that your favorite band are big fans of both of them. I love a good music debate. I think there are ten bands imo better, and more important, than Radiohead - i guess depending on how you define post Beatles.. here are some.. 1. VU 2. Stones 3. Zeppelin 4. Floyd 5. The Stooges 6. Sex Pistols 7. The Ramones 8. The Clash 9. Lynyrd Skynyrd 10. The Dead 11. Black Flag 12. Sonic Youth 13. Nirvana 14. The Talking Heads 15. The Pixies ok there are 15.. i think i could do more including The Minutemen, but i gave you five more in case you want to squabble over the era.. by the way i think the Beatgles are overrated.. The Pixies?! Yea man The Pixies. An incredible and important band. Without them you don't get Nirvana. They are on a short list of best bands of the eighties.

don't love your list, but totally agree about the pixies importance.

but they are not all that important in the grand scheme of things. A fine band, but really just another face in the crowd.

Most of the bands on that list are 'important' in that they were A listers (being generous in a couple of cases) in a particular genre, but in and of themselves, the punk/new wave scene would have been just fine without any given one of them.

In comment 14471826 fkap said:

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but they are not all that important in the grand scheme of things. A fine band, but really just another face in the crowd. Most of the bands on that list are 'important' in that they were A listers (being generous in a couple of cases) in a particular genre, but in and of themselves, the punk/new wave scene would have been just fine without any given one of them.

I have to disagree...the Pixies plowed a lot of ground for bands coming up behind them, and they did it in an era not very accepting of their sound. Bowie called them the psychotic Beatles, and Cobain actually said, "I was trying to write the ultimate pop song. I was basically trying to rip off the Pixies. I have to admit it. When I heard the Pixies for the first time, I connected with that band so heavily that I should have been in that band—or at least a Pixies cover band. We used their sense of dynamics, being soft and quiet and then loud and hard.”

In 2001, Johnny Greenwood, guitarist for Radiohead said, "The reason we don't use as much guitar now is there are only a handful of Pixies albums. You can't keep copying them."

I'd call them pretty influential.

In comment 14471484 FranchiseQB said:

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In comment 14471473 Motley Two said: Quote: And so is Radiohead (hence naming themselves Radiohead after the Talking Heads song) and I still think even with the accolades Talking Heads do receive, they are still somewhat underrated. That being said, they don't blow Radiohead away by any measurement. Radiohead has achieved just as much unique defining music, influence of others and progression in music as the Talking Heads. If I were talk about pop/rock music as two eras (Before Beatles and After Beatles), I'd argue both are probably in the top 10 most important groups in the After Beatles era. You might like one of them, both of them or neither of them, but it's a pretty strong bet that your favorite band are big fans of both of them. I love a good music debate. I think there are ten bands imo better, and more important, than Radiohead - i guess depending on how you define post Beatles.. here are some.. 1. VU 2. Stones 3. Zeppelin 4. Floyd 5. The Stooges 6. Sex Pistols 7. The Ramones 8. The Clash 9. Lynyrd Skynyrd 10. The Dead 11. Black Flag 12. Sonic Youth 13. Nirvana 14. The Talking Heads 15. The Pixies ok there are 15.. i think i could do more including The Minutemen, but i gave you five more in case you want to squabble over the era.. by the way i think the Beatgles are overrated..

I like your list, and have loved VU since I was a kid. Somewhere, I'd put the Smiths and Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers. People don't appreciate how TP was part of the wave that includes the ramones, that swept away ponderous prog rock. The only difference is that TP kept making great rock and roll for 30 more years.

The Smiths were so original; a truly unique band whose appeal spanned all sorts of people.

not sure if it's in order or just a list, but I'd have the Clash higher if it's a ranked list and the Stooges lower (though I was always a big Iggy Pop fan).

And also support everyone sticking up for the Pixies on here.

Some bands bridge generations to styles of music and the Pixies are one of them.

The Clash IMO sort of passed the baton to the Pixies. Now, the Pixies were nowhere near as monumental and ground breaking as the Clash, but musically they were the bridge to grunge, "alternative rock", pop punk, etc. influential to so many later acts you have to include them on a list like this.

In comment 14471826 fkap said:

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but they are not all that important in the grand scheme of things. A fine band, but really just another face in the crowd. Most of the bands on that list are 'important' in that they were A listers (being generous in a couple of cases) in a particular genre, but in and of themselves, the punk/new wave scene would have been just fine without any given one of them.

soft verse - loud chorus practically defined the 90s. that came from the pixies. they are the genesis of so much

Especially when it lists off some of my favorite all time bands:

The Beatles
The Talking Heads
Radiohead
The Pixies
Nirvana

A big thank you to rnargi. He burned a lot of cool cd’s for schnitzie when they were together. When she passed, I inherited them. So much Clash, The Smiths and a Pixies live album. Great stuff.

were basically the Mayflower of a genre - one of the first to set foot on a continent. Within a genre, and all music influenced thereafter, you don't get much more important/influential than that.

the best band still active and making new music IMO. Fully recommend that anyone who has an opportunity to see them live go ahead and do so. A lot of the songs sound really different live and they are constantly tinkering with things so you don't really know what you're going to get. Just been a great show every time I've seen them.

I'd rank the Radiohead albums:

OK Computer
In Rainbows
Hail to the Thief
The Bends
Kid A
King of Limbs
Moon Shaped Pool
Amnesiac
Pablo Honey

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were basically the Mayflower of a genre - one of the first to set foot on a continent. Within a genre, and all music influenced thereafter, you don't get much more important/influential than that.

I love the Stooges. Completely. But the Mc5 were already around. Iggy is a singular unique force, and the Stooges were unique and totally influential. But they didn't create a genre, imho.

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were basically the Mayflower of a genre - one of the first to set foot on a continent. Within a genre, and all music influenced thereafter, you don't get much more important/influential than that.

VU is more important imo than The Stooges. But the Stooges are essential. There is no doubt.

In comment 14471949 Moondawg said:

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In comment 14471862 fkap said: Quote: were basically the Mayflower of a genre - one of the first to set foot on a continent. Within a genre, and all music influenced thereafter, you don't get much more important/influential than that. I love the Stooges. Completely. But the Mc5 were already around. Iggy is a singular unique force, and the Stooges were unique and totally influential. But they didn't create a genre, imho.

sure.. but neither did the mc5. one begets the other.. vu is the one band that i place above all others in terms of originality and influence..

In comment 14471838 pjcas18 said:

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not sure if it's in order or just a list, but I'd have the Clash higher if it's a ranked list and the Stooges lower (though I was always a big Iggy Pop fan). And also support everyone sticking up for the Pixies on here. Some bands bridge generations to styles of music and the Pixies are one of them. The Clash IMO sort of passed the baton to the Pixies. Now, the Pixies were nowhere near as monumental and ground breaking as the Clash, but musically they were the bridge to grunge, "alternative rock", pop punk, etc. influential to so many later acts you have to include them on a list like this.

yea the order is random and i excluded a bunch of bands i would otherwise add..

In comment 14471831 rnargi said:

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In comment 14471826 fkap said: Quote: but they are not all that important in the grand scheme of things. A fine band, but really just another face in the crowd. Most of the bands on that list are 'important' in that they were A listers (being generous in a couple of cases) in a particular genre, but in and of themselves, the punk/new wave scene would have been just fine without any given one of them. I have to disagree...the Pixies plowed a lot of ground for bands coming up behind them, and they did it in an era not very accepting of their sound. Bowie called them the psychotic Beatles, and Cobain actually said, "I was trying to write the ultimate pop song. I was basically trying to rip off the Pixies. I have to admit it. When I heard the Pixies for the first time, I connected with that band so heavily that I should have been in that band—or at least a Pixies cover band. We used their sense of dynamics, being soft and quiet and then loud and hard.” In 2001, Johnny Greenwood, guitarist for Radiohead said, "The reason we don't use as much guitar now is there are only a handful of Pixies albums. You can't keep copying them." I'd call them pretty influential.

Agreed. The Pixies are enormously influential. And you know it's true because the perception of them has just grown steadily over the years. It's funny though that their entire rep is basically based on two albums. Doolittle and Surer Rosa. The other albums are good but the monumental contribution were those two records..

In comment 14471838 pjcas18 said:

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not sure if it's in order or just a list, but I'd have the Clash higher if it's a ranked list and the Stooges lower (though I was always a big Iggy Pop fan). And also support everyone sticking up for the Pixies on here. Some bands bridge generations to styles of music and the Pixies are one of them. The Clash IMO sort of passed the baton to the Pixies. Now, the Pixies were nowhere near as monumental and ground breaking as the Clash, but musically they were the bridge to grunge, "alternative rock", pop punk, etc. influential to so many later acts you have to include them on a list like this.

I think I might disagree. I think they are close. By the way I saw The Clash. The Clash were immense and they also were more popular but look at The Pixies, how many fucking bands, great bands, big bands, wound up sounding like them. It's incalculable. The Clash meanwhile, awesome band, but not too many bands sounding anything like Sandinista. I liken it to The Beatles vs VU. From punk to art rock to new wave to indie/college/alt rock... more bands sound exactly like VU than the Beatles.

by the way I left off Steely Dan from my list but I just thought I would add that every SD album from Can't Buy a Thrill through Aja, and maybe some would include Gaucho, is incredible. They rarely get mentioned in great album runs, but that run of SIX albums rivals great runs by The Stones, Zeppelin etc... Almost no bad, throwaway songs .. unique, inventive, towering songwriting..

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the best band still active and making new music IMO. Fully recommend that anyone who has an opportunity to see them live go ahead and do so. A lot of the songs sound really different live and they are constantly tinkering with things so you don't really know what you're going to get. Just been a great show every time I've seen them. I'd rank the Radiohead albums: OK Computer In Rainbows Hail to the Thief The Bends Kid A King of Limbs Moon Shaped Pool Amnesiac Pablo Honey

I was into Radiohead early.. I loved The Bends but I just couldn't stick with them. I know others revere them. I did see them on the last tour and I couldn't wait for the show to end. It must be just me.. I know they are great but the droning , moaning, emo whine of this band is just something i have not been able to connect to - yet.. i do keep trying.

but the Clash were so unique for two reasons, 1 they combined multiple genres of music into one band: blues, punk, rock, reggae, ska and it was an incredible sound.

and #2, more importantly but on top of #1, lyrically they stayed true to their punk message with multiple genres of music and that opened the door to many later acts. I think every band who is influenced by the Pixies was influenced by the Clash either directly or indirectly.

In addition to the alt-rock or punk bands they spawned, mainstream acts like U2 and REM credit the Clash for paving the way.

There are literally thousands of quotes about the Clash influence but this one from Tom Morello about Joe Strummer always seemed to sum it up for me how I think the Clash is/was viewed by other aspiring musicians at that time.

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"He was a brilliant lyricist and the electric focal point of the greatest live band of all time,... He played as if the world could be changed by a three-minute song, and when I saw the Clash play, my world was changed forever. His idealism and conviction instilled in me the courage to pick up a guitar and the courage to try to make a difference. Joe Strummer was my greatest inspiration, my favorite singer of all time and my hero. I already miss him so much." - 'Tom Morello Audioslave's guitarist

it's very unpopular, but I found Pablo Honey and the Bends to be their best two albums. Pablo Honey was just raw. Stop Whispering, Thinking about you (love the acoustic version), Creep.

Liked the Bends too.

hearing Thom Yorke describe the recording of creep was interesting and he explains the anger that went into that song puts into another light (for me).

on repeat for 6 hours on volume 11 and be happy.