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CMicks3110 : 6/13/2019 9:11 pm
Mets up 4-2 in the 7th. Jake pitching pretty well.

Where is DanMetroMan?? I haven't seen a thread from him in months.
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He's been on other threads, but not Mets threads  
Ira : 6/13/2019 9:14 pm : link
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Looks like Lugo is the set-up man  
Vanzetti : 6/13/2019 9:27 pm : link
and Familia has been demoted
oh hey welcome back shitty defense and walking the leadoff man  
Eric on Li : 6/13/2019 10:03 pm : link
looks like the streak of the bullpen and defense never costing us games is about to end.
Every fn way to take a W from JDG possible  
ChaChing : 6/13/2019 10:03 pm : link
if not just lose a game late...
Good thing we traded Kelenic  
Mike in NY : 6/13/2019 10:03 pm : link
For a closer
I hope DeGrom enjoys his money  
PhiPsi125 : 6/13/2019 10:05 pm : link
because the Mets certainly destroy any good that comes out of his performances.

Diaz has been a disappointment. Fantastic fucking trade.
So much hard contact  
Metnut : 6/13/2019 10:05 pm : link
vs Diaz all year. Really looking like this trade is a disaster.

Please find a way to win tonight. Cant keep falling so far behind Atlanta.
RE: Good thing we traded Kelenic  
Eric on Li : 6/13/2019 10:05 pm : link
In comment 14471583 Mike in NY said:
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For a closer


Don't focus on the negative, the wilpons also got save a little money on the BP this year.
Great job by the umpires and  
Metnut : 6/13/2019 10:06 pm : link
ground crew managing the end of this game too.
RE: Great job by the umpires and  
Eric on Li : 6/13/2019 10:07 pm : link
In comment 14471587 Metnut said:
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ground crew managing the end of this game too.


Not really their fault. The delay was less than 10 minutes. Hard to blame anyone else when Diaz walked the first guy on 5 pitches with a 2 run lead.
Thank god Alonso talked them into continuing play...  
schabadoo : 6/13/2019 10:07 pm : link
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RE: RE: Great job by the umpires and  
Metnut : 6/13/2019 10:11 pm : link
In comment 14471591 Eric on Li said:
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In comment 14471587 Metnut said:


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ground crew managing the end of this game too.



Not really their fault. The delay was less than 10 minutes. Hard to blame anyone else when Diaz walked the first guy on 5 pitches with a 2 run lead.


Ace closer should be able to handle the 7 and 8 hitters.

Absolutely huge game tonight. The team has to rally and pull this out. Cant lose another DeGrom game and fall 6 behind Atlanta.
Suspended, resuming tomorrow 6 pm.  
RodneyHamp : 6/13/2019 11:12 pm : link
Nice trade, Brodie.
Nice. So had they called for the delay the first time  
ChaChing : 6/13/2019 11:13 pm : link
Mets probably W 4-2

Obviously that's still an excuse, should be able to close it out. But sometimes luck don't help much either

And other times it's just the Mets
So since the game continues tomorrow  
SJGiant : 6/13/2019 11:17 pm : link
Do you bring back Diaz for another inning ?
RE: So since the game continues tomorrow  
PhiPsi125 : 6/13/2019 11:19 pm : link
In comment 14471669 SJGiant said:
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Do you bring back Diaz for another inning ?


Not if you want to win.
Well we can count on Callaway  
giantsFC : 6/13/2019 11:23 pm : link
For the absolute wrong decision. Whatever analytics he is using for decisions, must be the free trial version.
BVW should be fired for that Cano trade  
Rflairr : 6/13/2019 11:50 pm : link
And that Lowrie signing. FIRED
Diaz is due up 5th in the 9th...  
Metnut : 6/14/2019 9:06 am : link
if you don't pitch hit for him, he absolutely needs to be out there in the 10th. A tie game in the 10th inning is one of highest leverage situations you can have.

Completely random and unrelated note. Our old friend Ruben Tejada (still only 29 years old) is hitting to a 143 wRC in a little under 100 AAA ABs. .434 OBP. We'll likely see him at some point this year.
Cano/DIaz trade  
Drewcon40 : 6/14/2019 9:24 am : link
I know this trade looks like it may be a mistake but we can't un-do it. My hope is that if, BVW and Mickey C have to reassign Diaz's role, then do so. I know we traded for a "closer" but if he is blowing leads then he needs a different role as well.
33-34 with  
Rory : 6/14/2019 10:44 am : link
95 games left. We aren't even half way through the year...

Can we let this play out a bit more? fucking A.

Are we going to bitch and come apart every time things don't go the Mets way?

These game threads are commented  
Metnut : 6/14/2019 10:59 am : link
on in real time, so you're seeing instant reaction to a blown 9th inning lead by a player we paid a very very high price to acquire.

I don't think anyone is sitting back here and saying the season is over, but a lot of posters on these threads are die-hard Met fans and are going to vent when the teams takes a real gut-punch of an inning.
LOL, I always love when random posters log on to complain  
PhiPsi125 : 6/14/2019 11:29 am : link
about other people complaining. As if they haven't been around this team for the last half century.

Every year a couple of posters give us the old "there's a lot of season left" mantra...and every year the season is already over in June/July.

If you can't understand why the majority of fans have zero faith in this team - then you just aren't that big of a fan. The Mets have earned NOTHING when it comes to the benefit of the doubt. The Cano/Diaz trade is a gleaming example of how this is just more of the same.
At least we don't still  
pjcas18 : 6/14/2019 11:35 am : link
have people defending the Cano trade.

The Mets got a shitty, old, PED user 2B (NOT a position of need), and an overrated one-year-wonder closer.

And it only cost them a good part of their future.

Bravo!


At least we get Ces back after the All Star break  
Shecky : 6/14/2019 11:59 am : link
Thatll be like a major trade deadline acquisition.
There goes that plan...
RE: 33-34 with  
schabadoo : 6/14/2019 12:05 pm : link
In comment 14471985 Rory said:
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95 games left. We aren't even half way through the year...

Can we let this play out a bit more? fucking A.

Are we going to bitch and come apart every time things don't go the Mets way?


Oh you sweet summer child, that is not the way it's done here.
Hey, win the suspended game  
Metnut : 6/14/2019 12:30 pm : link
(which we're likely at least a 65% favorite to win given the extra 3 outs) and win tonight with Matz to get above .500. Then you'll see some excitement on these threads.

It's almost halfway through the season, get fucking above .500 already and let's get going! There's still a lot to like about this team but it's so damn frustrating seeing the pen cough away games left and right.
RE: LOL, I always love when random posters log on to complain  
Rory : 6/14/2019 12:54 pm : link
In comment 14472050 PhiPsi125 said:
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about other people complaining. As if they haven't been around this team for the last half century.

Every year a couple of posters give us the old "there's a lot of season left" mantra...and every year the season is already over in June/July.

If you can't understand why the majority of fans have zero faith in this team - then you just aren't that big of a fan. The Mets have earned NOTHING when it comes to the benefit of the doubt. The Cano/Diaz trade is a gleaming example of how this is just more of the same.


oh I get it, but whats the point of being a fan if you're gonna act like a little bitch all the time.

Show some resiliency.
RE: At least we don't still  
Eric on Li : 6/14/2019 12:59 pm : link
In comment 14472061 pjcas18 said:
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have people defending the Cano trade.

The Mets got a shitty, old, PED user 2B (NOT a position of need), and an overrated one-year-wonder closer.

And it only cost them a good part of their future.

Bravo!


Some will come out of hiding and still defend it. It is what it is. BVW is lucky it was the first move he made because it's literally a fireable offense. Sandy didn't make a move that bad in 8 years, even with 20/20 hindsight on the Cespedes + Wright contracts. After netting the insurance payments we will probably end up paying Cano more than both of those guys.
RE: RE: LOL, I always love when random posters log on to complain  
PhiPsi125 : 6/14/2019 1:26 pm : link
In comment 14472136 Rory said:
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In comment 14472050 PhiPsi125 said:


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about other people complaining. As if they haven't been around this team for the last half century.

Every year a couple of posters give us the old "there's a lot of season left" mantra...and every year the season is already over in June/July.

If you can't understand why the majority of fans have zero faith in this team - then you just aren't that big of a fan. The Mets have earned NOTHING when it comes to the benefit of the doubt. The Cano/Diaz trade is a gleaming example of how this is just more of the same.



oh I get it, but whats the point of being a fan if you're gonna act like a little bitch all the time.

Show some resiliency.


I've been a Mets fan since the early 80s. I think I've got the "resiliency" thing covered.

Unfortunately, I can't just flip a switch and root for the other NY team because grandma was a fan. So this is what I got. A shit sandwich and a poopy-flavored lollipop.
RE: RE: RE: LOL, I always love when random posters log on to complain  
giantsFC : 6/14/2019 1:47 pm : link
In comment 14472173 PhiPsi125 said:
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In comment 14472136 Rory said:


Quote:


In comment 14472050 PhiPsi125 said:


Quote:


about other people complaining. As if they haven't been around this team for the last half century.

Every year a couple of posters give us the old "there's a lot of season left" mantra...and every year the season is already over in June/July.

If you can't understand why the majority of fans have zero faith in this team - then you just aren't that big of a fan. The Mets have earned NOTHING when it comes to the benefit of the doubt. The Cano/Diaz trade is a gleaming example of how this is just more of the same.



oh I get it, but whats the point of being a fan if you're gonna act like a little bitch all the time.

Show some resiliency.



I've been a Mets fan since the early 80s. I think I've got the "resiliency" thing covered.

Unfortunately, I can't just flip a switch and root for the other NY team because grandma was a fan. So this is what I got. A shit sandwich and a poopy-flavored lollipop.

Same shit sandwich here.

Yay for 1986.
Literally was discussing met life w a mets fan coworker today  
giantsFC : 6/14/2019 1:51 pm : link
Different personalities and walks of life. Yet we both said the exact same thing about the Mets always failing and falling short to make their product better or to build on a near perfect product. Like the last WS team. Or the one before that.

Its a running joke for most true fans. Your arent a mets fan if you dont at least see the humor in the negativity.
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pjcas18 : 6/14/2019 2:10 pm : link

Michael Baron
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Officially, the #Mets are listing Edwin Daz as the pitcher who will pitch the 10th inning if needed. We will see if that changes.
RE: .  
Metnut : 6/14/2019 3:54 pm : link
In comment 14472226 pjcas18 said:
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Michael Baron
‏Verified account @michaelgbaron
8s9 seconds ago

Officially, the #Mets are listing Edwin Daz as the pitcher who will pitch the 10th inning if needed. We will see if that changes.


Makes sense. Diaz does his job and we have two innings to score a run. I'm sure he'll be very motivated.
Mets go quietly  
pjcas18 : 6/14/2019 6:14 pm : link
in the bottom of the 9th
diaz picking up right where he left off  
Eric on Li : 6/14/2019 6:24 pm : link
it's kind of refreshing to skip the first 8 innings and go straight to the nut shot. We should play all of our games this way.

also i find it mildy hilarious that scouts were knocking Alonso's glove like it was a trainwreck and he's probably our best defensive player (for his respective position).
And Cards somewhat predictably score  
ChaChing : 6/14/2019 6:25 pm : link
off a bloop, steal / misplay by Ramos, and DeJung of course getting an RBI because he's a Met killer

Nice that the DP came next pitch for kicks
lol Eric  
ChaChing : 6/14/2019 6:26 pm : link
'straight to the nut shot'
OTOH, we could be setting up for 2 nut shots in 1 night  
ChaChing : 6/14/2019 6:29 pm : link
Actually getting blown out next game would be less of a nut shot. Tho they'll surely be a bit more sore
that may have been the most feeble 20 minutes of the season  
Eric on Li : 6/14/2019 6:30 pm : link
I know it's not Callaway's fault Diaz has sucked but I'd fire him in between games. They cannot carry on like this.
RE: OTOH, we could be setting up for 2 nut shots in 1 night  
Eric on Li : 6/14/2019 6:31 pm : link
In comment 14472410 ChaChing said:
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Actually getting blown out next game would be less of a nut shot. Tho they'll surely be a bit more sore


They will win the next game 15-1 and we will say "if only they could have just scored 1 run in the 9th earlier". Book it.
So they found a new and interesting way to steal JDG's W  
ChaChing : 6/14/2019 6:31 pm : link
1 game over 2 days

Also fwiw had 3-4 HR bids that just didn't carry yesterday...off the top McNeil, Ramos, Dom (iirc JD or Pete?)

Whatever, on to the next one
That would be  
pjcas18 : 6/14/2019 6:33 pm : link
such a Mets thing to do, fire a manager in between games of a double header.

Not saying he shouldn't be fired but that would be a Mets thing to do.
RE: that may have been the most feeble 20 minutes of the season  
Vanzetti : 6/14/2019 6:34 pm : link
In comment 14472411 Eric on Li said:
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I know it's not Callaway's fault Diaz has sucked but I'd fire him in between games. They cannot carry on like this.


Going after DeJong was classic Mickey. So, obvious that you pitch around him to set up the GIDP with Goldschmidt.

I used to feel sorry for Mickey but I have to realize he is an arrogant prick who really thinks he knows better than conventional wisdom.
They pitched to Bellinger every chance they got  
ChaChing : 6/14/2019 6:38 pm : link
attacking DeJong was actually 'a much smarter move'

That actually holds up without any sarcasm given vs LAD it was the best hitter in the game by every measure at that moment (if not still)
Even Gary Cohen was expressing disbelief  
Vanzetti : 6/14/2019 6:50 pm : link
at attacking DeJong.
Shades of Justin Upton  
Gmanfandan : 6/14/2019 6:51 pm : link
So, I will take this as a portent that things are about to take a turn - that history repeats itself and Dominic Smith hits a 12th inning home run in the first game against the division leading Braves on Monday that leads to a sweep that becomes the turning point of a run to the pennant punctuated by Jed Lowrie finally comes off the IL and hitting the first pitch he sees into the left field upper deck against Philly right before the ASB in July putting us in first place of the division which we don't relinquish. Because history repeats itself and weird shit happens.
and it's not even that big a deal  
Vanzetti : 6/14/2019 6:52 pm : link
it's just typical of the decisions that this organization continues to make that give the team less of a chance to win.

the word I'd use to describe Callaway is flailing  
Eric on Li : 6/14/2019 6:57 pm : link
none of his decisions are bound by any continuous logic, 1 minute he's trying some new school theory the next he's bunting or double switching crappy players just to get a righty/lefty matchup. The way he runs the team is hands off, the way he disciplined Cano a few weeks ago was inconsistent at best, the Noah decision and explanation, all of his interactions with the media. Everything is 'throw shit at the wall see what sticks' with the only core features being a lack of accountability, results, or consistency. Just put him out of his misery (or us).
also I suppose that word describes the whole org - not just Mickey  
Eric on Li : 6/14/2019 6:59 pm : link
BVW's offseason was similarly unconstrained by much core logic other than the consistent thread of bringing in his former clients. I liked the embrace of contact hitters and the attempt to upgrade the bullpen, he just way overpaid for mediocre upgrades in both respects and undervalued defense.
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