NFT: Knicks should still go out and sign Kevin Durant

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out his achilles so that you won't see him until the start of the 2020/2021 season? Been waiting for the Knicks to do something intelligent for the past 20 years.

There is no one else to sign unless you get Kawhi which isn�t happening. The cap money has to be spent. I have no interest in butler, kemba, Harris or Kyrie. I don�t want to trade for AD. Really hope he gets traded to Boston. Draft Barrett., sign 1 year dead with Mario, Deandre, Beverly and Danny green with remaining $32 mil. Next year go after AD otherwise mix in more vets that fit with Kd and the rest of the team. At that point you can package some young players/picks for Paul George or Beal.

Signing KD also keeps the knicks from wasting the money ona multi year contract for someone that is not worth it.

Him then what is your plan for the cap space?

Why use up all that cap space for a year of waiting-for-Durant and then probably getting a diminished version of the guy.

Draft Barrett, keep the picks, draft more good young players, use the cap space on guys who can actually, you know, play basketball. Or take back some bad expiring contracts to get yet more draft capital.

Max unless you are getting Kawhi. No one is trying to get rid of expirings in the offseason. Teams may want to get rid of 2 year deals but I have no interest in that for a middle round 1st rounders. We have enough picks

In comment 14471600 GMEN46 said:

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Him then what is your plan for the cap space?

Exactly. And please don�t say sign Klay and Kawhi... good luck with that. Let�s also stop with the �young core� and �use the cap space for picks�. The Knicks young players need to make leaps and bounds and any pick Received for a bad contract will be a late 1st.

I�ll happily sign up for getting a top 15 player of all time ages 32-34- regardless of the injury. Knicks fans are nuts.

can't they sign Durant and also develop their youth? This doesn't cost them any picks + he's gone for a whole year.

Dolan really is a plague on the fans. Just as the Wilponsis are on Mets fans.

I'm in mourning. I have no clue what they should do.

It's a helluva lot of money for a 30something guy coming off a really difficult injury to predict the rehab.

KD should stick the Warriors with the bill by opting in on his player option year. Reboot the whole thing when he's healthy for the following season.

What the Knicks could/should do? /shrug

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Him then what is your plan for the cap space?

Do what Evan Roberts has been suggesting: use it as a weapon. Take on bad contracts in return for unprotected draft picks. The worst thing to do is sign guys like Tobias Harris, Kemba, Middleton, Jimmy Butler to max deals.

The short term fix option should have gone up in flames the instant KD ruptured his Achilles.

In comment 14471618 The_Boss said:

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In comment 14471600 GMEN46 said: Quote: Him then what is your plan for the cap space? Do what Evan Roberts has been suggesting: use it as a weapon. Take on bad contracts in return for unprotected draft picks. The worst thing to do is sign guys like Tobias Harris, Kemba, Middleton, Jimmy Butler to max deals. The short term fix option should have gone up in flames the instant KD ruptured his Achilles.

Agreed, go all out for Leonard which is highly unlikely. When he passes draft Barrett at 3 and then develop the kids while trying to acquire unprotected picks.

In comment 14471612 Torrag said:

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Dolan really is a plague on the fans. Just as the Wilponsis are on Mets fans. I'm in mourning. I have no clue what they should do. It's a helluva lot of money for a 30something guy coming off a really difficult injury to predict the rehab. KD should stick the Warriors with the bill by opting in on his player option year. Reboot the whole thing when he's healthy for the following season. What the Knicks could/should do? /shrug

Yes itnis dolans fault he blew out his achilles..

Durant opting in would be the dumbest thing he could ever do..

you let him recover for a year, the younfer players get another year of decelopment, you dont have to necassarily tank but younlet the young guys lead the team..

You go into next year with a healthy durant and another max slot, if you dont fill it this offseason

and wait till next year for a try at Davis. I'm not sold on landing Durant in the latter stages of his career after a major injury. We already did that with Amare. And I'd rather not sign anyone than sign mid-level guys to max contracts.

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and wait till next year for a try at Davis. I'm not sold on landing Durant in the latter stages of his career after a major injury. We already did that with Amare. And I'd rather not sign anyone than sign mid-level guys to max contracts.

Durant's a mid-level guy now?

It is a requirement of the nba. You can�t sign 6 guys to 1 year contracts averaging $10 million. Sign Durant and sign 3-4 guys in 1 year deals in the $8 million rnange. Mix young guys with vets.

The whole taking on contract thing isn�t going to get you unprotected 1st rounders anymore and teams that are willing to trade 1st rounders are most likely making a run for it so those picks are in the 20�s. It�s just not worth taking on a 2 or 3 year bad contract.

Signing Durant is a no brainer. It leads to one more year of development and a probable lottery pick. You go into 2020 free agency with healthy Durant with 3 years left in the deal. Maybe it�s only 85 percent of the old Durant but that is still awesome. Year 3 of Knox and Mitch and year 2 of Barrett. Another lottery pick, $40 million in cap space because cap goes up. Also you have a shot at Anthony Davis. You will also have 2 first rounders in 2021 that could be used in a package at that point if you want to fill out the roster with another star.

like Harris or McCollum. Durant is a superstar...just coming with age and off an injury.

(as in, take any two) would have been Leonard, Durant and Thompson.

The first guy ain't comin' and the other two seem to have fucked up their legs. Go figure. Not that Thompson was leaving the Warriors anyway.

Clearly isn�t the same but that May be the combo of the quad and Achilles recovery. I wonder how cousins will be at the beginning of 2019 season.

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Clearly isn�t the same but that May be the combo of the quad and Achilles recovery. I wonder how cousins will be at the beginning of 2019 season.

He is also clearly outnof shape

The raptors Gm makes bold moves would Siakim, van fleet, onunoby and 2 first rounders be more attractive then lakers offer?

leading surgeons from HSS on his show today.

Anyone who still wants to sign KD ought to listen. It�s not good.

He basically said these injuries are a bad sign for Durant moving forward and any contract better be short term or have insurance, but then again, you can�t really have a short term contract when you can�t even play in year one.

He was also talking about how precise the surgeon needs to be. If the tendon is repaired too tight, it can tear again. Not tight enough and you�ll have no �get off� in that step. Very difficult to come back unchanged by this.

I love Durant but I would pass.

starting 5: Klay, Durant, Anthony Davis, Kawaii, and Kemba.

I'm not familiar with that.

by the end of each season?

Not use your cap space, each team has a minimum amount of cap space that they have to use. I�m Norbert sure he minimum but I am pretty sure it is 80-90 percent of the cap at a minimum.

Dude is a monster. Have to love his heart.

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like Harris or McCollum. Durant is a superstar...just coming with age and off an injury.

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I thought the "And..." was a continuation of the Durant point. I'm with you there. No mediocre FAs please.

Unbelievable to lose 2 guys in the finals for next year as well. Woj just tweeted.

...with Nets after agent switch.


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that were only interested in Kyrie with someone like KD. I wonder if the knicks were one of them. Im ok with this, i mean i like Kyrie more then most on here and if we signed him id be happy, but Kyrie by himself doesnt really do much for us. Makes us solid if the youth pans out, but not championship contender.

And the Nets do sign Irving, I would consider giving serious money to D�Angelo Russell, if they renounce his rights.

He's young, he flashed last year. And if you're committed to keeping RJ, and using these draft picks to build from the ground up, he would fit the rebuild.

Take it KD, you've earned it.

And save the Knicks from themselves.
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Take it KD, you've earned it. And save the Knicks from themselves. realgm - ( New Window )

If a team as well run as the Warriors are willing to offer him the max that should show the Knicks exactly what they should do.

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And the Nets do sign Irving, I would consider giving serious money to D�Angelo Russell, if they renounce his rights. He's young, he flashed last year. And if you're committed to keeping RJ, and using these draft picks to build from the ground up, he would fit the rebuild.

The plans have really changed but I agree with this.

The best Knicks plan right now is to draft RJ and continue to build from the ground up.

Their FA interest should be Kawhi only (a total pipe dream anyway) and Russell if the Nets make him available. Either of those guys would fit nicely in the plan.

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Take it KD, you've earned it. And save the Knicks from themselves. realgm - ( New Window )

this is not a surprise, they were always going to offer him the max

Unreal. Just brutal.

Afford a 300 mil payroll with the luxury tax? Crazy

He's special and a lot younger than KD.

In comment 14471882 Big Rick in FL said:

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In comment 14471876 shyster said: Quote: Take it KD, you've earned it. And save the Knicks from themselves. realgm - ( New Window ) If a team as well run as the Warriors are willing to offer him the max that should show the Knicks exactly what they should do.

Maybe if the Knicks could get the rest of the Warriors to leave GSW and join NYK. Otherwise the decision is not the same at all. Even when KD was healthy, it only made sense to sign him at age 31 as part of a plan to win now.

And, apart from that, I think there are evident reasons GSW had to do this, even if they are aware the cold calculation and evidence of history are that the next KD contract could very well turn out to be an albatross.

that they'll be motivated to move?

Trade the whole team if you have too

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He's special and a lot younger than KD.

He's 30 in February, KD is 31 in September.

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that they'll be motivated to move?

Wall in DC comes to mind.

There are many bad takes out there, but fans preferring to use the Knicks cap space to take on bad contracts for picks instead of signing Kevin Durant may be the worst. Even if he loses a step, with his height and shooting, he will still be an all nba player. His overall defense, jumping and quickness may or may not be compromised. But his shooting and handle are staying the same.

My plan would be to sign Durant and sign Kemba if you can. If you can't get Kemba and it sounds like hes staying in CHA, roll the cap space over into next summer and hope Davis wants to make a move.

As for Davis, I could see a surprise team trade for him now. There are many teams out there that can beat the Lakers offer...

If the Lakers trade for Davis, he will absolutely sign an extension there. I'd be anything he would. So, what you have here is a situation where everyone else is bidding on a different return than the Lakers are, because Davis would be a straight rental for them.

We have plenty of draft picks. Those contracts are 2-3 year deals and the draft picks are always protected and end up in the 20�s. The Durant risk is well worth it. Sets you up nicely for 2020 season.

can Dennis Smith Jr turn it on in year 3? Could he have a D'angelo Russell like trajectory?

In comment 14471922 TommyWiseau said:

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can Dennis Smith Jr turn it on in year 3? Could he have a D'angelo Russell like trajectory?

He needs to work on his jumper, if he can get a consistent jumper he would be deadly offensively, he can turn the corner on anyone. He has really good vision and is an underrated passer..