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NFT: Anyone else never get tired of Billie Holiday?

Grey Pilgrim : 6/15/2019 4:46 pm
She's my all time favorite vocalist.

Anyone have recommendations for specific recordings?

I prefer her older work and was considering picking up this recording.

TIA
https://www.amazon.com/Lady-Day-Complete-Columbia-1933-1944/dp/B00005Q47M/ref=olp_product_details/131-1665249-7605026?_encoding=UTF8&me= - ( New Window )
I love him  
mattlawson : 6/15/2019 4:59 pm : link
Cher, Clueless
the classics  
RasputinPrime : 6/15/2019 5:12 pm : link
never age. I'm grateful for the sacrifices many have made in the name of timeless art.
I admit, I never get tired of her...  
manh george : 6/15/2019 5:33 pm : link
because I won't listen to her. There is an extra "something" in her voice that I just don't like. Give me Ella, Etta James, Bessie Smith, Dinah Washington, even Amy Winehouse or Janis. Pretty much in that order.
I am quite partial to Holiday's  
BlueLou'sBack : 6/15/2019 5:48 pm : link
'My Man' but not sure which album/version I have. Maybe on a Greatest Hit's compilation, because I seem to hear an older Holiday imagining it, not the 22 year old who sent ripples across the Jazz world when she first interpreted it on her own way.
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RE: I admit, I never get tired of her...  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 6/15/2019 6:06 pm : link
In comment 14472924 manh george said:
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because I won't listen to her. There is an extra "something" in her voice that I just don't like. Give me Ella, Etta James, Bessie Smith, Dinah Washington, even Amy Winehouse or Janis. Pretty much in that order.

Overrated, a bit too nasally/back of the throat, limited and flat. As Mel Torrme said, Ella is the greatest singer on the planet, and I would strongly recommend never disagreeing with Mel Torme.
Whew.  
manh george : 6/15/2019 6:33 pm : link
I like it that there is someone out there who agrees with me. Your description is on point, imo.
RE: Whew.  
BlueLou'sBack : 6/15/2019 6:59 pm : link
In comment 14472943 manh george said:
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I like it that there is someone out there who agrees with me. Your description is on point, imo.


Singing jazz though, or the blues, is kinda like singing Flamenco. You can throw all those opinions like too flat, back of the throat, nasal, gutteral or gravelly out the window because they don't REALLY matter.


You want great perfect voices, techniques and pitch, stick with Opera...
She's nowhere near  
Phil in LA : 6/15/2019 7:41 pm : link
overplayed and she's great, so NO.
Yeah, operatic...  
manh george : 6/15/2019 7:46 pm : link
just like the women I had on my list, none of whom rely primarily on technique. Ella comes closest, of course, because she could do anything. But her scat wasn't exactly opera-like. She just had great range, great power, great warmth, great technique, and great capacity to interpret hundred of songs. Or perhaps thousands.

And Etta could interpret songs in ways that no other singer in history could. And she was no more operatic than Billie.

The fact that Billie's voice annoyed me had nothing to do with the fact that she was un-operatic.
.Get tired of her?  
Bill in UT : 6/15/2019 8:05 pm : link
Yeah, cause she's on like 8 times a day
95% of  
Rick5 : 6/15/2019 8:21 pm : link
my jazz listening is instrumental only, but she is my favorite jazz vocalist. I stopped buying music a few years ago - I just use Spotify premium. There is so much to pick from.
If you like Operatic Jazz Singers then I think...  
Grey Pilgrim : 6/15/2019 9:55 pm : link
Sarah Vaughan fits the bill more than any other Jazz Vocalist.

My fav recording of hers is "Sarah Vaughan and Clifford Brown"

JMO
Rick  
Grey Pilgrim : 6/15/2019 9:57 pm : link
How do you stream Spotify Premium? Do you use your phone or an ipod or bluetooth device?

TIA
Billie Holiday's voice is not "great"  
TJ : 6/15/2019 10:42 pm : link
The criticisms like "lack of range" have merit. I still live to listen. She has an ability that I think of as inflection (though that's probably wrong) that hooks me. The way she bends a note just kills me. I never get tired of listening either.
That Ole Devil Called Love  
GruningsOnTheHill : 6/16/2019 1:22 am : link
What a sad, beautiful life.
RE: Rick  
Rick5 : 6/16/2019 4:39 am : link
In comment 14473201 Grey Pilgrim said:
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How do you stream Spotify Premium? Do you use your phone or an ipod or bluetooth device?

TIA

I use my phone in the car (bluetooth) and then a Sonos play5 at home. Spotify is so worth the 10 bucks per month for premium. It's incredible.
Thanks Rick!  
Grey Pilgrim : 6/16/2019 8:51 am : link
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manh george  
winoguy : 6/16/2019 9:44 am : link
Billie's voice annoyed you, but you like Janis Joplin? Says a lot !
Predecessor Blues Singer  
Percy : 6/16/2019 10:31 am : link
Don't forget about Bessie Smith.
Count me in the Billie Holiday club  
gidiefor : Mod : 6/16/2019 10:34 am : link
she's awesome!
Ella Fitzgerald sings at the music  
Daniel in Kentucky : 6/16/2019 10:54 am : link
Not with the music.
Count me out

Billie is far superior in my opinion.
RE: Yeah, operatic...  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 6/16/2019 11:05 am : link
In comment 14473012 manh george said:
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just like the women I had on my list, none of whom rely primarily on technique. Ella comes closest, of course, because she could do anything. But her scat wasn't exactly opera-like. She just had great range, great power, great warmth, great technique, and great capacity to interpret hundred of songs. Or perhaps thousands.

And Etta could interpret songs in ways that no other singer in history could. And she was no more operatic than Billie.

The fact that Billie's voice annoyed me had nothing to do with the fact that she was un-operatic.

Elle was a natural, singing came easy to her like talking for the rest of us. Compare her to the terrible singers of today who forcefully caterwaul and range around octaves for no reason. I would throw in Whitneys, Mariah Careys, Lady Gaga...
Here's a link...  
Grey Pilgrim : 6/16/2019 1:57 pm : link
to my favorite Sarah Vaughan recording.

Highly recommended!


https://www.amazon.com/Sarah-Vaughan/dp/B00004NHCC/ref=asc_df_B00004NHCC/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=312186741005&hvpos=1o3&hvnetw=g&hvrand=13746557590774650430&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9004478&hvtargid=pla-527069000057&psc=1&tag=&ref=&adgrpid=60264132457&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvadid=312186741005&hvpos=1o3&hvnetw=g&hvrand=13746557590774650430&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9004478&hvtargid=pla-527069000057 - ( New Window )
RE: Ella Fitzgerald sings at the music  
BlueLou'sBack : 6/16/2019 2:23 pm : link
In comment 14473497 Daniel in Kentucky said:
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Not with the music.
Count me out

Billie is far superior in my opinion.


That's an incredible statement and distinction, but I think I get it and agree. I'm much more appreciative of Billie, Carmen McRae, Abbey Lincoln, Sarah Vaughn, Dinah Washington, but never put a finger on the pulse of why Ella doesn't rock my boat like several others.
Sarah Vaughn  
Daniel in Kentucky : 6/18/2019 2:10 am : link
+1
RE: If you like Operatic Jazz Singers then I think...  
Section331 : 6/18/2019 10:12 am : link
In comment 14473196 Grey Pilgrim said:
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Sarah Vaughan fits the bill more than any other Jazz Vocalist.

My fav recording of hers is "Sarah Vaughan and Clifford Brown"

JMO


Sarah Vaughn was phenomenal. What a voice. Ella had a bit more character to her voice, and was better with blues standards, but Sarah had one of the most pure voices I've heard outside of opera.

MG, funny you should mention Amy Winehouse, the singer she always reminded me of was Billie Holiday. I love Billie's voice. She had a lot of character in her voice, although drugs really ate at her voice towards the end. I'm not sure I would put Dinah Washington near Sarah, Ella or Billie, her voice was really thin, IMO (and she was one of my mom's favorites).
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