The Giants win the division, beat a wild card team in the first round of the playoffs, but then lose to the Rams or Packers in the next round. Eli's numbers are good, but not dominant. He does an excellent job of running the offense, the turnovers are limited, but so are his wow moments. Maybe Jones gets to start the final, meaningless game of the season and performs well. He makes some plays with his feet that open some eyes (and no, I'm not saying he kicks somebody in the face).
In this hypothetical, the Giants make the decision not to re-sign Eli. So my question isn't what should the Giants do with Eli, it's where does Eli land in that scenario?
The first place to look would be Jacksonville, but they just signed Foles to a big deal, so he would have to fall flat on his face for them to move on so quickly. On top of that, the 2020 QB class is supposed to be a good one, so the teams in most need at the position are likely to be the same teams in good position to draft one. I'm sure there will be at least a team or two in the market for him if he's coming off a good year, but I'm having a hard time thinking of who that might be.
Why do I care? There could be a 2021 3rd round comp pick in it for the Giants.
The Titans, Bengals, and Raiders are two other potential likely spots. A team like Miami that drafts a QB in round 1 could look to Eli as a veteran mentor 1 year starter type.
I really don’t know which scenario I’d bet on unfolding here the next calendar year or so. Gun to my head I think Eli’s wearing another nfl jersey next season but it’s far from an easy pick to make.
As for Eli, I could see someone like Tennessee giving him a one year deal as a transitional guy, but I suspect he is done.
This is the latest to make the rounds where no matter how much its said or how passionately fans believe in it, it’s not a lock. As improbable as it sounds anything can happen and what if Eli and the giants had a great year offensively? Any team can pull a season out of their ass we’ve seen this very team and qb do it. If it happened, Eli won’t be going anywhere. If they go 11-5 with a top 7-8 offense? Eli playing like he did over the last 8 games of 2018? I’m not saying it will happen but it could. Jones would likely have to sit for a little longer.
An added benefit is that he retires before Ben R. and Rivers, thus avoiding the talk of which of the three should make the Hall of Fame.
He can go into the HOF by first and by himself. No five year discussion about which of the three should make it by the stinking media!!
Yeah this wouldn’t suck.
Apparently tomorrow, he’s the celebrity “guest” at an autism charity golf event at Winged Foot....lucky him...
I don't buy for a minute if Manning still has it, he's going to hang 'em up for the sake of retiring a Giant.
Manning the first of his class to bow out at 39 coming off a good performance? Not the Eli I've watched the last 15 years.
Sorry, don't see it happening.
Manning ain't the future.
That was then, this is now.
Don't ask me to be Mr. Clean, 'cause baby I don't know how.
Mara is overly meddlesome, and I don't really have much respect for either Mara in the regime, but they're not some pair of buffoons led by nose rings by Manning.
While not re-signing is more or less cutting Eli, it is not as harsh as cutting him in the middle of a contract. The regime is apparently hot on Jones. If he shows well in preseason, and possibly in season, the fans are going to be hot on Jones. Unless Eli plays lights out, it is going to be an easy public relations transition. If Eli only plays decent, the PR is going to be a tougher sell to re-sign him while fans are clamoring for the hot young toy. Mara is sensitive to PR.
So, you believe that the guy who just invested the 6th pick of the draft is going to keep that investment on the bench for at least another year just to placate Eli Manning, and pay Manning an exorbitant amount of money to keep playing, and, in the process, piss off his GM and HC, not to mention the majority of the team's fan base who are resigned to the fact that the "Eli Era" is ending and the Daniel Jones Era is beginning.
Somehow, I doubt that.
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there is no way he gets re-signed by the Giants. Even if he plays well Jones will start under center week 1 2020. You don't invest a top pick on a player and sit him in today's NFL. Getty knows this, but he is playing the PR game.
As for Eli, I could see someone like Tennessee giving him a one year deal as a transitional guy, but I suspect he is done.
This is the latest to make the rounds where no matter how much its said or how passionately fans believe in it, it’s not a lock. As improbable as it sounds anything can happen and what if Eli and the giants had a great year offensively? Any team can pull a season out of their ass we’ve seen this very team and qb do it. If it happened, Eli won’t be going anywhere. If they go 11-5 with a top 7-8 offense? Eli playing like he did over the last 8 games of 2018? I’m not saying it will happen but it could. Jones would likely have to sit for a little longer.
Are you trying to say Eli was good in the final 8 games of 2018? Him playing like that certainly isn't keeping anybody on the bench. Had 2 good games against 2 terrible teams with 5 TDs and 0 INTs. The 6 games after that he had a whopping 8 TDs and 5 INTs. Let's not pretend he was good. I'm not even sure I'd call that average.
3547 yds
22 TD
7 INT
98.3 QBR
Would not be surprised at all if Eli does better than that. How much better? I don't know. But is that good enough? I doubt it. If the Giants go 13-3 like Minny did there will be a bunch who want to bring him back, but the debate would be fierce because those numbers are very good, but not anywhere near a top QB's numbers in terms of yards or TD's, and the cost to bring him back will be prohibitive.
Does anyone believe Eli is going to sign for less than $24MM guaranteed? Would you pay that much for Eli after such a season with Jones waiting in the wings?
It's not necessarily reading comprehension - the response to the OP has been given and isn't as compelling a discussion as whether Eli would be worth re-signing.
I know what you're getting at and would agree if it hadn't already been discussed (see the TEN & NO suggestions).
People are concentrating on the wrong thing. If Jones shows anything (which it looks like he has and people inside the building are excited) than Eli is gone regardless.
I hate to see what some of these posters are like after break ups the way some of them can't let go.
You can toss any team out there and they might be in the market for a vet qb. That's why the discussion took the turn that it did. Hopefully, you were not too discomfited by the turn of the discussion.
Even if Eli wins it all and finally becomes 3LI I think you move on. In that situation it would be wise for Eli to ride out like Strahan.
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The premise of the thread was framed by Milton as to possible landing spot for Eli next season. The basis that he has a good year and his last year as a Giant. Very few offered a legitimate response to the hypothetical. Instead, it evolves into a debate whether the Giants re-sign Eli. Reading comprehension of BBI has never been a strong point.
Because the entire question is speculative. No one knows at this point what teams will need a qb, (did anyone expect the Redskins would need a qb because Smith broke his leg?) because of injury, retirement, sucketude or some previous plan not working out. Gisele convinces Tom to hang them up while he still has his marbles, the Texans decide that Watson's rookie year was his best one and want to move on, Foles crashes and burns, AZ decides that they were deluded with Murray, Wentz gets hurt again and now there is no Foles to save them, Jones looks like complete crap when the whistle actually blows, Gruden decides Carr is not going to take them anywhere, Garappolo is not the same after his injury, Mahomes get hurt, Rosen's dad convinces him to quit etc etc etc.
You can toss any team out there and they might be in the market for a vet qb. That's why the discussion took the turn that it did. Hopefully, you were not too discomfited by the turn of the discussion.
Just like his brother did. If he gets a chance to play for another team, he'll go there and try to duplicate the feat.
One thing he'll NEVER do is take a pay cut; it's just not the Manning style.