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Italianju : 6/17/2019 8:06 am
Draft is only 3 days away. Might not be the most eventful night for the knicks as #3 should be a lock and we dont pick again until #55. Id love to see us grab an extra pick or two and thats probably doable in the 2nd round.

Also a positive article about how the knicks handled the AD situation.
https://www.postingandtoasting.com/2019/6/16/18679305/the-knicks-wont-sign-or-trade-for-a-star-this-june-you-should-feel-good-about-that

And it does seem the knicks do have interest in Randle, although im curious if that was started by BBI cause this was def the first place i saw it, lol.
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According to barretts trainer  
nygiants16 : 6/18/2019 10:40 am : link
He has chsnged his shot a little bit to make it more effecient and smoother stroke. Also has worked on his shiftiness and working on side steps in the half court.
RE: Frank Ntilikina  
Enzo : 6/18/2019 10:40 am : link
In comment 14475444 LawrenceTaylor56 said:
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is the longest tenured Knick. Wow.

have they officially waived Lance yet? If not, it's still him. He's like the Jared Jeffries of this era...
Enzos  
threeofakind33 : 6/18/2019 10:40 am : link
Scenario appears the most likely right now.
RE: Lakers are gonna get  
nygiants16 : 6/18/2019 10:41 am : link
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Irving or Kemba plus Horford and they will be in the Finals.

Lakers-Bucks 2019-20 NBA Finals.

Write it down.


Literally zero chance of this happening
RE: RE: Frank Ntilikina  
nygiants16 : 6/18/2019 10:42 am : link
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is the longest tenured Knick. Wow.


have they officially waived Lance yet? If not, it's still him. He's like the Jared Jeffries of this era...


There was a report that the knicks planned to waive him, but nothing official
Correct I misread  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 6/18/2019 10:43 am : link
Lance Thomas is going to be waived since they picked up Triers option. As of right now nothing is official. But by the end of the month Frank will be the longest tenured Knick.
RE: Correct I misread  
Heisenberg : 6/18/2019 10:45 am : link
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Lance Thomas is going to be waived since they picked up Triers option. As of right now nothing is official. But by the end of the month Frank will be the longest tenured Knick.


I'm not sure Frank makes it thru Thursday.
..  
Jon in NYC : 6/18/2019 11:43 am : link
@TommyBeer

RJ Barrett's per-game averages in the six games Zion Williamson missed last season:

26.2 points (while shooting 49.6% from the floor),
8.2 rebounds,
5.2 assists
1.7 made 3-pointers.




DuKe WeNt 3-3 wItHoUt ZiOn
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DanMetroMan : 6/18/2019 11:45 am : link
Flash-forward to mid-June and the Knicks' plans for the offseason suddenly look murky.

They, of course, did not get the No. 1 pick in the draft the New Orleans Pelicans landed it in a stunning jump in the lottery. The Knicks got the third overall pick.

Durant so heavily rumored to be joining the Knicks that Newsday's Steve Popper described the feeling among league executives as "fait accompli" tore his Achilles in the Finals, likely keeping him out of the entire 2019-20 season.

Irving now seems more interested in joining the Brooklyn Nets, according to various reports. He recently changed his representation to Roc Nation, an agency with ties to the Nets.

Davis was traded to the Los Angeles Lakers on Saturday. According to The Athletic's Shams Charania, the Knicks did not include second-year players Kevin Knox and Mitchell Robinson, two of their best assets, in offers to the Pelicans.
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Anakim : 6/18/2019 11:48 am : link
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@TommyBeer

RJ Barrett's per-game averages in the six games Zion Williamson missed last season:

26.2 points (while shooting 49.6% from the floor),
8.2 rebounds,
5.2 assists
1.7 made 3-pointers.




DuKe WeNt 3-3 wItHoUt ZiOn


What was his FGM-FGA for those games?
Correct me if I'm wrong but they were a few million under 2  
TheMick7 : 6/18/2019 11:50 am : link
max contracts before signing Trier. Now,signing 2 may no longer be in the cards but if it is,I'd imagine they'd need to clear up more space besides Thomas. Wouldn't surprise me to see them try to move Frank for a mid/lower 1st as he was a Phil draft pick & it would open up cap space!
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Jon in NYC : 6/18/2019 11:55 am : link
In comment 14475551 Anakim said:
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In comment 14475544 Jon in NYC said:


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@TommyBeer

RJ Barrett's per-game averages in the six games Zion Williamson missed last season:

26.2 points (while shooting 49.6% from the floor),
8.2 rebounds,
5.2 assists
1.7 made 3-pointers.




DuKe WeNt 3-3 wItHoUt ZiOn



What was his FGM-FGA for those games?


I'm not sure but he shot 50% from the field despite a higher usage rate.
Barrett's going to be a stud  
Canton : 6/18/2019 12:00 pm : link
Book it. He has the fire and desire to improve every facet of his game. And he's what, 18? I think he has a bit of time, to do so.
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Heisenberg : 6/18/2019 12:12 pm : link
In comment 14475551 Anakim said:
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@TommyBeer

RJ Barrett's per-game averages in the six games Zion Williamson missed last season:

26.2 points (while shooting 49.6% from the floor),
8.2 rebounds,
5.2 assists
1.7 made 3-pointers.




DuKe WeNt 3-3 wItHoUt ZiOn



What was his FGM-FGA for those games?


62-125. Almost 21 attempts per game
If I could turn Barrett into Garland, Hayes and Porter, Id do it.  
Jim in Hoboken : 6/18/2019 12:17 pm : link
But thats not likely given where the Hawks pick.

Barrett has that alpha mentality which will compensate for whatever deficiencies he has now at 18. I just wish he was a little more twitchy and explosive.

I am sick of watching Frenchie whos afraid to do anything and Knox who played like he was in a rec league game last year.
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Anakim : 6/18/2019 12:18 pm : link
In comment 14475576 Heisenberg said:
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@TommyBeer

RJ Barrett's per-game averages in the six games Zion Williamson missed last season:

26.2 points (while shooting 49.6% from the floor),
8.2 rebounds,
5.2 assists
1.7 made 3-pointers.




DuKe WeNt 3-3 wItHoUt ZiOn



What was his FGM-FGA for those games?



62-125. Almost 21 attempts per game


Thanks
RE: Barrett's going to be a stud  
DanMetroMan : 6/18/2019 12:18 pm : link
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Book it. He has the fire and desire to improve every facet of his game. And he's what, 18? I think he has a bit of time, to do so.


Just turned 19
hmmm  
Jon in NYC : 6/18/2019 12:21 pm : link
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Darius Garland will conduct a last-minute workout in Tarrytown with the New York Knicks tomorrow, a source told ESPN. Garland is in serious consideration for the No. 3 pick. Minnesota, Boston, Chicago are teams looking at potentially trading up to No. 4 with Garland in mind.


Seems late in the game for a smokescreen. Probably for due diligence should someone come in with a great offer.
This is interesting...  
Strahan91 : 6/18/2019 12:21 pm : link
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Darius Garland will conduct a last-minute workout in Tarrytown with the New York Knicks tomorrow, a source told ESPN. Garland is in serious consideration for the No. 3 pick. Minnesota, Boston, Chicago are teams looking at potentially trading up to No. 4 with Garland in mind.
RE: the limits  
Zeke's Alibi : 6/18/2019 12:23 pm : link
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on those kinds of bets are typically very low. It's like betting on WWE. It's relatively low stakes. I wouldn't read too much into it.


Yes, but you can put the bet in multiple times and at different books. They set limits low on bets like this because it becomes apparent right away when someone has inside info. So yeh I would read a lot into this.
The Bulls are doing everything in their power for  
dep026 : 6/18/2019 12:24 pm : link
Garland. Problem is they dont have much to offer player wise to move up.
Garland's always been the wild card due to his injury  
Anakim : 6/18/2019 12:30 pm : link
But my friend said he likes Garland more than both Morant and Barrett
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threeofakind33 : 6/18/2019 12:31 pm : link
Knicks flip picks with Pels, Pels take Barrett, Knicks take Garland at 4?

I realize a lot of fans have already walked RJ down the aisle, but I wouldnt hang up the phone given the Pels war chest.
I'd have no issue with Garland at #3 (or #4), and I like Barrett.  
bceagle05 : 6/18/2019 12:34 pm : link
Garland has a lethal three-point shot and is quick enough to break down defenses - he's like a hybrid of the Portland guards. I'm a big fan of his game.
It's a three-person draft  
Anakim : 6/18/2019 12:35 pm : link
But that very well could be because Garland got hurt
You would think a trade down to get Garland, right?  
figgy2989 : 6/18/2019 12:37 pm : link
What do you do with DSJ if you draft Garland? Flip him for another pick?
I hope Garland blows them away tomorrow.  
bceagle05 : 6/18/2019 12:38 pm : link
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RE: You would think a trade down to get Garland, right?  
Anakim : 6/18/2019 12:38 pm : link
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What do you do with DSJ if you draft Garland? Flip him for another pick?


I would think. A pick in the 11-20 range?
probably just dd  
Strahan91 : 6/18/2019 12:41 pm : link
either the Knicks are preparing in case NO moves up to two for Barrett and someone makes a godfather type offer for #3 for Morant, the Knicks want teams trying to trade up to 4 for Garland to offer the same for 3 to see if it's something they want to do, or the Knicks no longer feel like Barrett being at #3 is a certainty and aren't in love with Morant.

Barrett not working out for any other team tells me that the Knicks have given some signal that they're taking him at 3 if he's there and this happening at the last minutes means it likely has something to do with whatever New Orleans is up to.
Yeah, I would guess NO wants to move up for Barrett  
Heisenberg : 6/18/2019 12:47 pm : link
Interesting. I don't know much about Garland at all.
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Strahan91 : 6/18/2019 12:48 pm : link
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Source: The Atlanta Hawks have been aggressive exploring trades packaging the No. 8 and 10 picks to move up in the draft. Their offer to the Knicks for the No. 3 pick was apparently rebuffed. The Pelicans are considering the possibility of trading the No. 4 pick for 8+10.
RE: RE: You would think a trade down to get Garland, right?  
DanMetroMan : 6/18/2019 12:48 pm : link
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What do you do with DSJ if you draft Garland? Flip him for another pick?



I would think. A pick in the 11-20 range?


DSJ's trade value may be even lower than that right now.
Pelicans are considering  
ghost718 : 6/18/2019 12:53 pm : link
Knicks rebuffed

If true,sounds like you can expect a very safe selection from the Knicks.Maybe someone will sense it and jump ahead of them,just like what used to happen to the Giants.
Garland's playmaking/vision are in question  
shyster : 6/18/2019 1:00 pm : link
and you can't tell much on that in a workout.

Plus small guys are generally a defensive liability in the era of positionless basketball.

Knicks are going RJ Barrett  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 6/18/2019 1:07 pm : link
the last minute workout is them simply doing their do diligence incase they get an offer for #3 that they can't refuse.
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DanMetroMan : 6/18/2019 1:31 pm : link

The Atlanta Hawks have been aggressively trying to move up in the draft by offering a trade package including the No. 8 and 10 picks, according to ESPNs Jonathan Givony.

The Knicks apparently rebuffed the offer for the No. 3 pick, per Givony, but the Pelicans are considering the possibility of trading the No. 4 pick for the Hawkstwo top-10 picks.
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Anakim : 6/18/2019 1:33 pm : link
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Source: The Atlanta Hawks have been aggressive exploring trades packaging the No. 8 and 10 picks to move up in the draft. Their offer to the Knicks for the No. 3 pick was apparently rebuffed. The Pelicans are considering the possibility of trading the No. 4 pick for 8+10.


Not surprising. The Draft falls off a cliff from the top-3 (4, if you count Garland)
8, 10 & 17  
Carl in CT : 6/18/2019 1:42 pm : link
Is not enough to get to #3 for me.
Maybe its #4 and Ingram  
Carl in CT : 6/18/2019 1:51 pm : link
For #3. I shouldnt be Hart or Ball if we are working out a PG.
remwmber last year  
nygiants16 : 6/18/2019 1:52 pm : link
knicks worked out mo bamba and everyone thought theybhad a deal to move up
16  
Carl in CT : 6/18/2019 1:55 pm : link
Good point. But I bet they tried to get him.
maybe I'm nuts  
bigbluehoya : 6/18/2019 2:07 pm : link
but Ingram and #4 doesn't make me want to move #3.

side note: I really despise that the draft is before FA.
Where do you guys think Bol Bol ends up being drafted?  
Dave in PA : 6/18/2019 2:08 pm : link
Kid is a freak of athletic and offensive talent for his height. Injuries are obviously a huge concern. Think he goes top 10? Probably worth the risk in a shallow draft
If Brandon Ingram just had those 3 seasons with the Knicks,  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 6/18/2019 2:08 pm : link
no one would think he was any good. PASS.
Lets ask this  
Carl in CT : 6/18/2019 2:24 pm : link
What would anyone take from NO to drop from 3 to 4? I know stay the course is the popular answer one I agree with but would an unprotected #1 do it? (And not the laker picks).
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DanMetroMan : 6/18/2019 2:31 pm : link
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Sacramento Kings forward Harrison Barnes is declining his $25.1M player option and becoming an unrestricted free agent, his agent, Jeff Schwartz of Excel Sports, tells ESPN. Barnes, 27, and Kings are open to exploring a new deal together this summer, sources said.
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LawrenceTaylor56 : 6/18/2019 2:43 pm : link
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Wow. He's not getting close to 25.1 million this year.
Wow. Everyone  
Jan in DC : 6/18/2019 2:43 pm : link
seeing that there's a lot of money out there to be spent and opting out.
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Heisenberg : 6/18/2019 2:48 pm : link
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Wow. He's not getting close to 25.1 million this year.


We've seen this movie before. Mozgov got 64Mil!
Draft  
TyreeHelmet : 6/18/2019 3:00 pm : link
Who knows how it turns out in the long run, but this drafts prospects are Zion as clear number 1 and Morant/ Barrett 2a/ 2b. After that its a pretty steep drop off.

I really like Culver but it would take a lot for me to move down to 4. And 8/10/17 isnt cutting it to get to 3.

Im starting to get excited about Barrett. And hes on the next Boardroom with Kleiman and Jay Williams...
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