Draft is only 3 days away. Might not be the most eventful night for the knicks as #3 should be a lock and we dont pick again until #55. Id love to see us grab an extra pick or two and thats probably doable in the 2nd round.
Also a positive article about how the knicks handled the AD situation.
https://www.postingandtoasting.com/2019/6/16/18679305/the-knicks-wont-sign-or-trade-for-a-star-this-june-you-should-feel-good-about-that
And it does seem the knicks do have interest in Randle, although im curious if that was started by BBI cause this was def the first place i saw it, lol.
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russell/vet point
barrett/trier
harris/knox
randle/vet big
robinson/vet big
young team with a ton of room to grow and hope would be russell and barrett turn into a stud back court
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I might be more interested in just Randle and see if DSJ takes a step forward. We could use a PF much more then a guard. And hold our capspace a bit longer instead of locking in 40+ to Randle/Dlo
russell/vet point
barrett/trier
harris/knox
randle/vet big
robinson/vet big
young team with a ton of room to grow and hope would be russell and barrett turn into a stud back court
That's definitely a fun team, but I think it still leaves you a little short of being a real contender, even with some projected development. How much cap space does that leave for next offseason?
Not sure if Harris is a guy I like for NYK at the $ he will likely get.
Now is not the time to sign a guy at 30+ years old who can't play this year and who we don't know will ever be the same.
i still think durant wants to come, like i saidni go back and forth, but right now i think i pass and go young
Such bad luck that KD went down. Outside of Russell, I don't see a FA that I would want to give a multiyear deal at max money (Kawhi doesn't count because I don't believe he would coming to NY).
I think that the team needs to be thoughtful with this cap space, because even if they give 2 guys max money on 1 year deals like Middleton and Cousins or whoever they will not be the long term answer. The only thing they can do for the team is move us to the ranks of the mediocre.
I think that's why you see folks interested in taking chances on contracts for younger guys who still have some upside, like Russell or Randle. It's a little more attractive than handing out big contracts to second tier stars that are maybe dubious teammates like Boogie or Butler.
I don't know if Russell + Randle would work and if they would meet their contract value. But they still have room to grow and improve and would make for a fun team to root for.
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marc berman?
He's a highly coveted player by almost every other team. Making an independent decision that they don't want him is one thing, but if that's really the decision, it would seem pretty negligent not to at least get a return by moving back a bit.
As in all cases, it takes two to tango on a trade like that, but it seems there are more than 1 or two teams that would be buyers. (Pels at 4 likely one of them...)
Anyway, yeah if the Knicks pass on him I'd be shocked.
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and we shouldn't be surprised if the Knicks opt for Culver at 3 over Barrett. Ideally, the Grizzlies would take Barrett at 2, leaving Morant for the Knicks. Apparently, Perry LOVES Morant.
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marc berman?
No, it wasn't Berman. It was some article I came across on Twitter, but I forgot which one it was
Anyway, yeah if the Knicks pass on him I'd be shocked.
I like Barrett just fine. I just think he has a lot of work to do.
I think the thinking is that Culver would be taken at 4 by the Pelicans, so the Knicks would lose him if they trade down.
Barrett's quicker, but Hunter is bigger and stronger. Barrett has a much better handle and is better around the hoop, while Hunter is a lockdown defender and really good shooter.
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though not the athlete that Barrett is.
Barrett's quicker, but Hunter is bigger and stronger. Barrett has a much better handle and is better around the hoop, while Hunter is a lockdown defender and really good shooter.
I really think Hunter will be a good NBA player. But one of the reasons that he's bigger and stronger than RJ is that he's 21 and RJ just turned 19 last week.
I think Hunter will be a really good 3 and D guy. He's a better prospect IMO than both the Bridges from last year, for example. It's not easy to project his game growing beyond that admittedly very valuable skillset but he has a really high floor. I'll be shocked if he's not a solid NBA player.
On the other hand, Barrett has a far wider array of skills than Hunter. He also has a far wider range of outcomes. On the plus side, he has the kind of scoring and playmaking skills that you could easily see bring him to an all star level. If he becomes a very efficient scorer, he could get to all NBA level. Conversely, if he remains at his current efficiency level, he'd be an inefficient chucker like so many other guys that came to the NBA and failed to make the leap.
For my money, the difference in the guy is the makeup. He's super competitive and driven. Add that to the talent and skills he already has and the sky is the limit. Knicks should pick him at 3.
Bilas slobbers all over dukies. I still like Ja more than Barrett.
Seems like an adult, similar to the NYG 20018 rookie running back a bit, IMO.
I don't think the Knicks have a shot but it would be great.
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though not the athlete that Barrett is.
Barrett's quicker, but Hunter is bigger and stronger. Barrett has a much better handle and is better around the hoop, while Hunter is a lockdown defender and really good shooter.
I really think Hunter will be a good NBA player. But one of the reasons that he's bigger and stronger than RJ is that he's 21 and RJ just turned 19 last week.
I think Hunter will be a really good 3 and D guy. He's a better prospect IMO than both the Bridges from last year, for example. It's not easy to project his game growing beyond that admittedly very valuable skillset but he has a really high floor. I'll be shocked if he's not a solid NBA player.
On the other hand, Barrett has a far wider array of skills than Hunter. He also has a far wider range of outcomes. On the plus side, he has the kind of scoring and playmaking skills that you could easily see bring him to an all star level. If he becomes a very efficient scorer, he could get to all NBA level. Conversely, if he remains at his current efficiency level, he'd be an inefficient chucker like so many other guys that came to the NBA and failed to make the leap.
For my money, the difference in the guy is the makeup. He's super competitive and driven. Add that to the talent and skills he already has and the sky is the limit. Knicks should pick him at 3.
Good points. One thing that concerns me regarding Barrett'a becoming an efficient shooter is his foul shooting. Players who don't do well behind the foul line often don't develop better jump shots.
100% agree. Hunter would've been the best choice for a player immediately playing with KD and whomever. The Knicks in this situation need to go for the highest upside and that's Barrett. I don't love him either, but there's no other player I clearly would take over him.
Mills and Perry say thr same thing over and over again they do not want anyone who doesnt want to be here
That competitive drive has shaped Barrett as a player and person throughout a decorated high school career and his season at Duke. And those close to Barrett believe it will lead to success at the next level.
"Winning is the only thing that matters to him," Washington says. "There's no compromise.... Everything he's been about has been about winning, excellence, not being afraid to compete at the highest level, the biggest stage."
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Barrett will step onto the biggest stage of his life on Thursday night when he shakes commissioner Adam Silver's hand and puts on the hat of the team that drafts him. If everything goes the way it's projected, Barrett will have a blue Knicks hat on when he walks off the Barclays Center stage. New York is expected to select Barrett with the No. 3 pick.
And if they do, the immediate question some long-suffering Knicks fans will ask about Barrett is, can he handle the Big Apple?
Those who have spent time around Barrett believe the answer is a resounding yes.
"There's one guy in (the draft) that's built for New York City and that's RJ Barrett," says Rae Miller, an assistant coach at Montverde Academy, where Barrett played high school basketball. "He has the personality, the level of play that New York enjoys and he has the character."
"He's been raised with a New York mentality," says Washington, adding: "He is what people say New Yorkers are supposed to be -- aggressive, determined, confident and always pushing the envelope. That's how you get to greatness."
Barrett has embraced the idea of playing for the Knicks, a franchise that has won just one playoff series in the past 19 years. He's only met and worked out for New York in the weeks leading up to the draft, eschewing workout invites from other teams with top picks.
"This is the place I want to be, so I hope they draft me," he said earlier this month.
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Wow Greg coming from you that's gushing over Barrett! All joking aside I read where Boogie is looking at possibly another 1 year deal and the most the Warriors can offer is like 6 mill. I know I'm beating a dead horse, but you guys wouldn't take him here at like 2 years/20 mill or 1 year 10? Pair him with another FA and you still have all our assets AND cap space.
Sorry but DeAndre Hunter is not a better shooter than Barrett. Hunter was the third best shooter on his college team.
I'm huge Virginia fan, and I like Hunter. But he will be a complementary player in the NBA. Im not completely 100% sold on Barrett but he has the highest floor in this draft.
russell/vet point
barrett/trier
harris/knox
randle/vet big
robinson/vet big
young team with a ton of room to grow and hope would be russell and barrett turn into a stud back court
Russell is appealing. Harris and Randle are not.