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where did you see that? -175 is crazy high odds all of a sudden that he is a knick.

In comment 14475227 Italianju said:

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where did you see that? -175 is crazy high odds all of a sudden that he is a knick.

Yeah that�s such a huge shift. Makes me think something leaked.

In comment 14475227 Italianju said:

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where did you see that? -175 is crazy high odds all of a sudden that he is a knick.

i saw it on another forum, asked for a link

or someone put a whole ton of money on KI to NY. That said i cant find anything online about an odds shift

In comment 14475235 Italianju said:

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or someone put a whole ton of money on KI to NY. That said i cant find anything online about an odds shift

the odds do not change based on bets, it is not like betting on games or horse racing where lones shift...

Those odds are set by vegas and dont shift unless they change them

In comment 14475236 nygiants16 said:

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In comment 14475235 Italianju said: Quote: or someone put a whole ton of money on KI to NY. That said i cant find anything online about an odds shift the odds do not change based on bets, it is not like betting on games or horse racing where lones shift... Those odds are set by vegas and dont shift unless they change them

Yes, the odds-makers change them....almost entirely based on bets placed. If someone comes in and makes a huge bet, the house will adjust the line almost instantaneously (or turn the prop 'off' while they decide what the line should be adjusted to)

it is not solely based on bets placed, vegas uses a bunch of different things to make the odds on future bets like this..

Like last year when the lakers were rumored to get lebron, they skyrocketed up the board...

Look at the knicks odds to win title that is not based on betting...

Lines shift because of betting, this is not just betting..

Someone can come in with a huge bet but if vegas feels like the outcome is not plausible they will leave the odds as is..

that said i dont think you see large wages placed on these kind of bets the same way you see them on games. So in theory a lot of the line is set by vegas as they protect themselves, but again the line will 100% move based on incoming bets.

something happened somewhere to make whichever sportsbook it was think he is likely a knick.

In comment 14475258 Italianju said:

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that said i dont think you see large wages placed on these kind of bets the same way you see them on games. So in theory a lot of the line is set by vegas as they protect themselves, but again the line will 100% move based on incoming bets.

if vegas feels it is a likely outcome, the line would 100 percent move you are correct..

if someone places a 100 thousand dollar bet on the hawks to win the title the line is not going to move, that is my point

That�s is a huge change, personally I think it�s probably bs, not blaming NYgiants, but that is a huge change and without a link it�s almost unbelievable.

In comment 14475271 GMEN46 said:

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That�s is a huge change, personally I think it�s probably bs, not blaming NYgiants, but that is a huge change and without a link it�s almost unbelievable.

I cant find it anywhere and i cant find the odds on my draft kings sportsbook

But whoever posted that could be a bs source. That�s a big move especially considering how confident people have been with him signing with brooklyn

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and got hammered for it and pulled down the prop, haha.

In comment 14475285 Italianju said:

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and got hammered for it and pulled down the prop, haha.

I guess rhey pull it down every time they put it up..

but it doesnt make sense, if the nets are bringing in heavy bets why make them +300?

I wouldn�t put much into that

and it is overwhelming the prop why not just make them the overwhelming favorite? why even take bets at +300?

doesnt make sense to me why they would even make that bet available

or they get a wave of wagers they will adjust the line like 99% of the time. In a bet like that they assume the bettor has some inside information. This isn't like betting on a game where they shade lines. They put out props to collect the vig.

on those kinds of bets are typically very low. It's like betting on WWE. It's relatively low stakes. I wouldn't read too much into it.

In comment 14475055 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:

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& they were talking about if KD doesn't play in Game 5. Raps win the Finals that night. KD doesn't tear his Achilles, Klay doesn't tear his ACL because there's no Game 6. Unreal.

Then Durant tears it days into his first training camp with the Knicks.

surprisingly

In comment 14475433 nygiants16 said:

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surprisingly

Celtics are crumbling. I bet he takes a discount deal to go to LAL.

but the Celtics are gonna be the big losers of the summer. Kyrie and Horford gone, AD in Los Angeles, no more top five picks on a silver platter courtesy of the Nets trade. All they have to show for that trade is one very good player (Tatum) and one solid player (Brown). They'll find a way to stay competitive, but they haven't built anything close to what was expected with all those assets.

is the longest tenured Knick. Wow.

In comment 14475442 bceagle05 said:

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but the Celtics are gonna be the big losers of the summer. Kyrie and Horford gone, AD in Los Angeles, no more top five picks on a silver platter courtesy of the Nets trade. All they have to show for that trade is one very good player (Tatum) and one solid player (Brown). They'll find a way to stay competitive, but they haven't built anything close to what was expected with all those assets.

ainge and stevens will still get their ass kissed and basically blame it all on kyrie...

In comment 14475444 LawrenceTaylor56 said:

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is the longest tenured Knick. Wow.

hahahaha fuck

Irving or Kemba plus Horford and they will be in the Finals.

Lakers-Bucks 2019-20 NBA Finals.

Write it down.

to stay 2-3 more years with Boston but at a lower AAV.

He has chsnged his shot a little bit to make it more effecient and smoother stroke. Also has worked on his shiftiness and working on side steps in the half court.

In comment 14475444 LawrenceTaylor56 said:

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is the longest tenured Knick. Wow.

have they officially waived Lance yet? If not, it's still him. He's like the Jared Jeffries of this era...

Scenario appears the most likely right now.

In comment 14475447 Chris684 said:

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Irving or Kemba plus Horford and they will be in the Finals. Lakers-Bucks 2019-20 NBA Finals. Write it down.

Literally zero chance of this happening

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In comment 14475444 LawrenceTaylor56 said: Quote: is the longest tenured Knick. Wow. have they officially waived Lance yet? If not, it's still him. He's like the Jared Jeffries of this era...

There was a report that the knicks planned to waive him, but nothing official

Lance Thomas is going to be waived since they picked up Triers option. As of right now nothing is official. But by the end of the month Frank will be the longest tenured Knick.

In comment 14475461 LawrenceTaylor56 said:

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Lance Thomas is going to be waived since they picked up Triers option. As of right now nothing is official. But by the end of the month Frank will be the longest tenured Knick.

I'm not sure Frank makes it thru Thursday.

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RJ Barrett's per-game averages in the six games Zion Williamson missed last season:

26.2 points (while shooting 49.6% from the floor),
8.2 rebounds,
5.2 assists
1.7 made 3-pointers.




DuKe WeNt 3-3 wItHoUt ZiOn

Flash-forward to mid-June and the Knicks' plans for the offseason suddenly look murky.

They, of course, did not get the No. 1 pick in the draft � the New Orleans Pelicans landed it in a stunning jump in the lottery. The Knicks got the third overall pick.

Durant � so heavily rumored to be joining the Knicks that Newsday's Steve Popper described the feeling among league executives as "fait accompli" � tore his Achilles in the Finals, likely keeping him out of the entire 2019-20 season.

Irving now seems more interested in joining the Brooklyn Nets, according to various reports. He recently changed his representation to Roc Nation, an agency with ties to the Nets.

Davis was traded to the Los Angeles Lakers on Saturday. According to The Athletic's Shams Charania, the Knicks did not include second-year players Kevin Knox and Mitchell Robinson, two of their best assets, in offers to the Pelicans.
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In comment 14475544 Jon in NYC said:

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@TommyBeer RJ Barrett's per-game averages in the six games Zion Williamson missed last season: 26.2 points (while shooting 49.6% from the floor), 8.2 rebounds, 5.2 assists 1.7 made 3-pointers. DuKe WeNt 3-3 wItHoUt ZiOn

What was his FGM-FGA for those games?

max contracts before signing Trier. Now,signing 2 may no longer be in the cards but if it is,I'd imagine they'd need to clear up more space besides Thomas. Wouldn't surprise me to see them try to move Frank for a mid/lower 1st as he was a Phil draft pick & it would open up cap space!

In comment 14475551 Anakim said:

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In comment 14475544 Jon in NYC said: Quote: @TommyBeer RJ Barrett's per-game averages in the six games Zion Williamson missed last season: 26.2 points (while shooting 49.6% from the floor), 8.2 rebounds, 5.2 assists 1.7 made 3-pointers. DuKe WeNt 3-3 wItHoUt ZiOn What was his FGM-FGA for those games?

I'm not sure but he shot 50% from the field despite a higher usage rate.

Book it. He has the fire and desire to improve every facet of his game. And he's what, 18? I think he has a bit of time, to do so.

In comment 14475551 Anakim said:

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In comment 14475544 Jon in NYC said: Quote: @TommyBeer RJ Barrett's per-game averages in the six games Zion Williamson missed last season: 26.2 points (while shooting 49.6% from the floor), 8.2 rebounds, 5.2 assists 1.7 made 3-pointers. DuKe WeNt 3-3 wItHoUt ZiOn What was his FGM-FGA for those games?

62-125. Almost 21 attempts per game

But that�s not likely given where the Hawks pick.

Barrett has that alpha mentality which will compensate for whatever deficiencies he has now at 18. I just wish he was a little more twitchy and explosive.

I am sick of watching Frenchie who�s afraid to do anything and Knox who played like he was in a rec league game last year.

In comment 14475576 Heisenberg said:

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In comment 14475551 Anakim said: Quote: In comment 14475544 Jon in NYC said: Quote: @TommyBeer RJ Barrett's per-game averages in the six games Zion Williamson missed last season: 26.2 points (while shooting 49.6% from the floor), 8.2 rebounds, 5.2 assists 1.7 made 3-pointers. DuKe WeNt 3-3 wItHoUt ZiOn What was his FGM-FGA for those games? 62-125. Almost 21 attempts per game

Thanks

In comment 14475566 Canton said:

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Book it. He has the fire and desire to improve every facet of his game. And he's what, 18? I think he has a bit of time, to do so.

Just turned 19

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Seems late in the game for a smokescreen. Probably for due diligence should someone come in with a great offer.

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In comment 14475323 Enzo said:

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on those kinds of bets are typically very low. It's like betting on WWE. It's relatively low stakes. I wouldn't read too much into it.

Yes, but you can put the bet in multiple times and at different books. They set limits low on bets like this because it becomes apparent right away when someone has inside info. So yeh I would read a lot into this.

Garland. Problem is they don�t have much to offer player wise to move up.