But he helped extend Ray Lewis' career so much. Lewis was starting to show signs of regression before Ngata ascended iirc. He deserves a mention among guys since 2000 or so, he was always overshadowed by Lewis/Reed.
Although quarterback sacks did not become an official NFL statistic until 1982, Katcavage is unofficially credited with a career total of 96½ sacks, placing him third on the Giants unofficial list.3 All Pros. 3 Pro Bowls and 2 All Conference.
At a time when stats and TV coverage and hype did not exist, this guy was getting it done year in and year out. He was part of the Giant's Fearsome Foursome which included Modzelewski, Greir and Robustelli. Never got the love for the HoF, but as a kid and young Giant fan watching him, I truly admired his play and his fortitude; especially in his later years when the Giants program went in the toilet.
Just ask joe Montana, I’ll never forget that playoff game, pat summerall’s majestic voice : “the word on Montana from the sideline is his return is doubtful, and the report is that “everything hurts”......”
Just ask joe Montana, I’ll never forget that playoff game, pat summerall’s majestic voice : “the word on Montana from the sideline is his return is doubtful, and the report is that “everything hurts”......”
Was a 3-4 DE. Who should Be in the HOF. Not really A DT
when Green and Lilly were in the league. That wasn't off the field.
One year's MVP award doesn't make the guy a better player than Green or Lily. In 1999 The Sporting News constructed a 100 best players ever in the NFL. They wrote then about Lily:
"In 1999, he was ranked number 10 on The Sporting News' list of the 100 Greatest Football Players, the highest-ranking defensive lineman and the highest-ranking Cowboy. The only defensive players ranked ahead of Lilly were Dick Butkus and Lawrence Taylor. Sports Illustrated named him one of the ten most revolutionary defensive players.
Well it's just opinions, we can agree to disagree.
Even though I remember him, because I don't have a clear impression of him from then. For me it was near the end of his career, and I was young. I have seen video of him of course and the video is very impressive.
Randy White
Loved Mendenhall, but Alan Page was better.
This dude is a monster
And was completely taken out by elite coaching in the Super Bowl.
It's said he was the difference in winning/losing that game.
Although quarterback sacks did not become an official NFL statistic until 1982, Katcavage is unofficially credited with a career total of 96½ sacks, placing him third on the Giants unofficial list.3 All Pros. 3 Pro Bowls and 2 All Conference.
At a time when stats and TV coverage and hype did not exist, this guy was getting it done year in and year out. He was part of the Giant's Fearsome Foursome which included Modzelewski, Greir and Robustelli. Never got the love for the HoF, but as a kid and young Giant fan watching him, I truly admired his play and his fortitude; especially in his later years when the Giants program went in the toilet.
katcavage was not a dt he was a de
For me, I thought Long, Brown, and Kennedy were superb all-around DTs. Gun to my head? I’m riding with Rome Brown...
Good dude whose better play was over shadowed by the clown show Gastineau performed. Borderline HOF guy. Not best ever but underrated for sure
Cortez Kennedy was Better than Sapp IMO. Jerome Brown was a monster too. No old enough for Page. Randy White has to be up there too.
A Just a bit before my time always heard from my older cousins that Troy Archer was amazing.
Donald is up there too.
Was a 3-4 DE. Who should Be in the HOF. Not really A DT
One year's MVP award doesn't make the guy a better player than Green or Lily. In 1999 The Sporting News constructed a 100 best players ever in the NFL. They wrote then about Lily:
"In 1999, he was ranked number 10 on The Sporting News' list of the 100 Greatest Football Players, the highest-ranking defensive lineman and the highest-ranking Cowboy. The only defensive players ranked ahead of Lilly were Dick Butkus and Lawrence Taylor. Sports Illustrated named him one of the ten most revolutionary defensive players.
Well it's just opinions, we can agree to disagree.
Sapp could rush the passer and stop the run. He was an excellent player.
A 3-4 DE is basically a DT, and less like a DE. How many years have you been here and fail to grasp this concept?
His career was tragically too short, but Jerome Brown was a human wrecking ball.