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ZGiants98 : 6/17/2019 7:29 pm
Mets Lineup

Jeff McNeil – LF
Pete Alonso – 1B
Robinson Cano – 2B
Michael Conforto – RF
Wilson Ramos – C
Todd Frazier – 3B
Amed Rosario – SS
Juan Lagares – CF
Zack Wheeler – RHP

Braves Lineup

Ronald Acuna – CF
Dansby Swanson – SS
Freddie Freeman – 1B
Josh Donaldson – 3B
Nick Markakis – RF
Austin Riley – LF
Brian McCann – C
Ozzie Albies – 2B
Mike Soroka – RHP

Things seem to be falling apart a bit. Nimmo seeing a specialist. Syndergaard on the IL. Vargas out yesterday with a leg cramp. Three more losses and we probably could have won every game. Familia might be the most damaging move of the entire offseason in terms of it contributing to actually losses. Probably the final stretch to get above .500 by the all star break/deadline. LGM!
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RE: We just CANT  
Eric on Li : 6/18/2019 6:39 pm : link
In comment 14475968 Shecky said:
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Ever have good things. EVER!!


I assume there's some sense of humility in the organization now that you can't just snap your fingers and change the culture. Do you think there's anything chance things meaningfully improve or is it going to be same old story?
Lots of frustration  
Shecky : 6/18/2019 7:37 pm : link
Mickey is just not the right guy for this clubhouse, and that’s an understatement. I think he’d be fine in a veteran heavy clubhouse, old Red Sox for example. This group needs more energy, needs to believe in a leader.
RE: Lots of frustration  
Eric on Li : 6/18/2019 7:49 pm : link
In comment 14476046 Shecky said:
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Mickey is just not the right guy for this clubhouse, and that’s an understatement. I think he’d be fine in a veteran heavy clubhouse, old Red Sox for example. This group needs more energy, needs to believe in a leader.


optics can be deceiving but outwardly he is 1 of the worst leaders i've ever seen as a manager/head coach in all pro sports. Wishy washy, not accountable, no energy, inconsistent, victimhood. And obviously strategically he's a disaster. I was all for him but honestly would have fired him last year to try to jump start the team with Collins when he was still around. Baseball manager may be a position without much impact but leadership can have an impact in any situation.
In between the torture of watching Mets baseball...  
ChaChing : 6/18/2019 8:08 pm : link
Justine Ward



Gelbs is good, but thanks for taking some fam time
Continuing w/ the torture, not sure if this was known already but SNY  
ChaChing : 6/18/2019 8:25 pm : link
crew saying:

Nimmo is shut down for a month min

Justin Wilson was expecting a final rehab start but was scratched due to elbow tightness
Would be excited about 4-0 but it's just the 3rd  
ChaChing : 6/18/2019 8:26 pm : link
and a JDG start so STILL have to temper expectations
deGrom looks filthy tonight...  
ZGiants98 : 6/18/2019 8:39 pm : link
Have to make this stand up.

Wilson scratched with elbow stiffness in his rehab game. LOL. Forget it. Completely lost season.
Alonso!  
ZGiants98 : 6/18/2019 8:44 pm : link
Whoo!
Alonso HR #24  
ChaChing : 6/18/2019 8:46 pm : link
2 more runs

6-0 NYM
Frazier's done a commendable job this year  
ZGiants98 : 6/18/2019 8:50 pm : link
But why is this team so petrified to try to do better? Davis is outhitting him by a mile and outside of a rocky start defensively looked better as the year went on. Play the kid at 3B! Same with shit ass Gomez. Play McNeil or Conforto in CF and get Dom's bat in the lineup. Do something though. Cant work with half a lineup every night. Thats why its so frustrating for me. We actually DID have some depth this year. USE IT.

This rotation is still VERY good though. Even with the ball flying out of the ballpark this year at a historic rate by all teams we are still at the top of the heap and its likely to even out even further as a slow start by deGrom, etc. was uncharacteristic.

Bullpen is a mess. It's really Lugo/Diaz right now and nothing else. Gsellman is fine for like a 5th guy but not a top setup guy. Familia is a disaster and for Wilson its a lost season due to injuries. Hopefully some young guys step up. We have some reliever talent in AAA and if we are in it in a few weeks maybe we can make a trade for another setup guy and promote a couple. Gillium Im looking at you.
JDG looking like the 2018 model  
ChaChing : 6/18/2019 8:55 pm : link
today
The starting rotation started out rough, really rough, but I feel like  
PhiPsi125 : 6/18/2019 9:13 pm : link
they’ve stabilized a bit (for the most part). Still underperforming but not bad enough that can’t be overcome. The BP has absolutely destroyed any shot we had to be competitive this season. Abhorrently bad. The offense is okay but, AGAIN, half our lineup are zeros. Cano is one our worst players (shocker, told you so - great trade BVW). And I guess Lowrie’s septum has deviated again. I was looking forward to the 35 year old sudden HoF player could do.

The Braves have a really nice team. Nearly every single hitter has an OPS of .800 or higher. And the one hitter under that is at .778. That’s crazy. And pretty consistent. The Mets have so many case study’s of success to learn from and they still make the same ignorant decisions year after year. Such a dumb franchise.
RE: JDG looking like the 2018 model  
Jay on the Island : 6/18/2019 9:22 pm : link
In comment 14476142 ChaChing said:
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today

Yes and so is Teheran unfortunately lol.
RE: RE: JDG looking like the 2018 model  
PhiPsi125 : 6/18/2019 9:31 pm : link
In comment 14476167 Jay on the Island said:
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In comment 14476142 ChaChing said:


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today


Yes and so is Teheran unfortunately lol.


I always felt like Teheran killed the Mets. Really thought he was going to be a stud pitcher for years.

Don’t know why this particular game sticks out in my mind - but there was a game earlier in Teheran’s career against the Mets where he got pissed at the HP ump and showed the ump up while on the mound. The HP ump didn’t call a single strike for the next three batters (and they were definitely strikes) and it screwed the game for the Braves. I’ve never seen such a dickish display from an official in my life. HP umps are the most sensitive officials there are in any sport - and consistently the worst lol.
Yeah may not be a Paul DeJong, but he's a Met killer  
ChaChing : 6/18/2019 9:46 pm : link
i think they said an ERA just over 2 iirc
This ump has an intense strike call  
ChaChing : 6/18/2019 10:02 pm : link
not only delayed, loud and long, but with a very accusatory if not menacing finger point
The Braves have a nice lineup  
ZGiants98 : 6/18/2019 10:06 pm : link
of young players obviously but the Mets really should have too. Nimmo, Conforto, McNeil, Alonso, Dom, Rosario, and maybe even Davis could be a fine nucleus. All teams have to sprinkle in a few vets. Donaldson is exactly the type of player we would have signed and he would have been a disaster here. The guy has been an injured mess for years (and for the record I did want the Mets to sign them).

Point is, you have to sprinkle in a few older guys to fill out a roster. Lowrie and Cano were coming off very nice seasons.. Ramos too for that matter. Same with Bruce the year before last year. It just never seems to work out our way. And Nimmo out with a bulging disk in his neck after the year he had last year has nothing to do with age but yet is soooooo Mets.
This is pretty funny...  
ZGiants98 : 6/18/2019 10:13 pm : link
CluelessMickeyC

#Jake is pitching great. The offense is raking. If only we can play every game without using the bullpen and without relying on me to have to make any decisions. #Mets #LGM
Funny, but didn't they just say the Mick was about to pull JDG  
ChaChing : 6/18/2019 10:18 pm : link
prior to last inning? SNY was conjecturing that's what was going on fwiw

Tho after batting it seems he should be going out in the 9th

McNeil goes yard!
Can someone clue me in  
SJGiant : 6/18/2019 10:20 pm : link
As to why Diaz is warming up in a blowout game?
haha....  
ZGiants98 : 6/18/2019 10:25 pm : link
Of course Freeman tells deGrom to fuck himself.
FU Freddie  
ChaChing : 6/18/2019 10:26 pm : link
FU

What a (annoyingly) good player
Whatever, just get JDG his W  
ChaChing : 6/18/2019 10:27 pm : link
that's a huge achievement for this team
Seriously  
ChaChing : 6/18/2019 10:29 pm : link
quit it
Mets W  
ChaChing : 6/18/2019 10:36 pm : link
JDG sick save last two ABs

Alonso on base SIX times, 4/4
Ill give the Mets the slide edge tomorrow  
ZGiants98 : 6/18/2019 10:44 pm : link
Matz VS Fried. Win tomorrow and we still have a pulse.

Cubs for 4 games will be tough. Probably going to have to go Font-Vargas-Wheeler-deGrom. Might be able to split that series..

Brutal stretch! Keep fighting!
'Davis is outhitting him by a mile'  
schabadoo : 6/18/2019 11:38 pm : link
Davis and Frazier are like #5-6 on the team for OPS YTD, which includes Frazier's slow start coming back from injury.
Kelenic  
pjcas18 : 6/19/2019 2:12 am : link
#25 in MLB's latest top 100 prospects.

Dunn #68.

Gimenez #59
Mauricio #83
Anthony Kay #96

Astros have 3 of the top 11.

that's all I noticed, but I have been drinkings, so could have missed something.
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RE: Ill give the Mets the slide edge tomorrow  
Jay on the Island : 6/19/2019 9:33 am : link
In comment 14476273 ZGiants98 said:
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Matz VS Fried. Win tomorrow and we still have a pulse.

Cubs for 4 games will be tough. Probably going to have to go Font-Vargas-Wheeler-deGrom. Might be able to split that series..

Brutal stretch! Keep fighting!

It depends which Fried shows up. He appears to be wearing down already being that he only thew 77 innings last year and 92 the year before. He is already at 76 IP this year. Unfortunately for us he will likely be moved to the pen soon to limit his innings before being shut down.
That was quite a night for Alonso even considering the season he's  
Ira : 6/19/2019 9:47 am : link
been having. I've been waiting to see if pitchers caught on to him, but that doesn't seem to be the case. He's currently 2nd in home runs and 8th in OPS in the majors.
RE: 'Davis is outhitting him by a mile'  
ZGiants98 : 6/19/2019 9:49 am : link
In comment 14476346 schabadoo said:
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Davis and Frazier are like #5-6 on the team for OPS YTD, which includes Frazier's slow start coming back from injury.


Is this a serious statement? Davis is performing at 10% better clip and is 26. Frazier has been average for years and his in his 30s. He’s actually outperforming what he did all of last year so is likely due for even more regression.
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