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Giants in 07 : 6/17/2019 7:49 pm
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Trouba and Skjei  
jv : 6/18/2019 7:54 am : link
are best buds. May help influence him to sign long term with the Rangers. On top of that Gorton indicated on his conference call last night that he had spoken to Trouba and his agent post-trade and was optimistic an extension could be made.
RE: RE: Not to sound arrogant, but I can't see how Trouba doesn't re-sign here  
Anakim : 6/18/2019 8:08 am : link
In comment 14475191 Nomad Crow on the Madison said:
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A) It's New York City
B) We have a shit ton of cap space now and in the future (remember Henrik, Shatty, Staal and Smith are coming off the books in the next 2-3 years)
C) This team is really looking up with a young nucleus



Trouba is from Michigan. Just as Shattenkirk wanted to play for the Rangers, Trouba wants to play for his boyhood favorite team. We will struggle to resign him if he gets to UFA.



We're not the Islanders. When was the last time a player spurned us? Fuck that boyhood team shit. He's gonna get paid and get paid well with a marquee franchise like the Rangers.
RE: RE: RE: Not to sound arrogant, but I can't see how Trouba doesn't re-sign here  
pjcas18 : 6/18/2019 8:16 am : link
In comment 14475226 Anakim said:
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A) It's New York City
B) We have a shit ton of cap space now and in the future (remember Henrik, Shatty, Staal and Smith are coming off the books in the next 2-3 years)
C) This team is really looking up with a young nucleus



Trouba is from Michigan. Just as Shattenkirk wanted to play for the Rangers, Trouba wants to play for his boyhood favorite team. We will struggle to resign him if he gets to UFA.




We're not the Islanders. When was the last time a player spurned us? Fuck that boyhood team shit. He's gonna get paid and get paid well with a marquee franchise like the Rangers.


Yeah, the Red Wings are a flash in the pan, also-ran team. Detroit is sometimes called Hockey Town for a reason.

He's getting paid no matter what, unless he suffers a catastrophic injury.

I'm not saying he won't sign in NY, but at this point, he should probably test free agency.

RE: RE: RE: Not to sound arrogant, but I can't see how Trouba doesn't re-sign here  
Jon in NYC : 6/18/2019 8:16 am : link
In comment 14475226 Anakim said:
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A) It's New York City
B) We have a shit ton of cap space now and in the future (remember Henrik, Shatty, Staal and Smith are coming off the books in the next 2-3 years)
C) This team is really looking up with a young nucleus



Trouba is from Michigan. Just as Shattenkirk wanted to play for the Rangers, Trouba wants to play for his boyhood favorite team. We will struggle to resign him if he gets to UFA.




We're not the Islanders. When was the last time a player spurned us? Fuck that boyhood team shit. He's gonna get paid and get paid well with a marquee franchise like the Rangers.


I hate this take. The rangers havenít won a cup since Ď94. Can we stop pretending that weíre some high and mighty holier than thou organization.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Not to sound arrogant, but I can't see how Trouba doesn't re-sign here  
Anakim : 6/18/2019 8:31 am : link
In comment 14475229 Jon in NYC said:
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A) It's New York City
B) We have a shit ton of cap space now and in the future (remember Henrik, Shatty, Staal and Smith are coming off the books in the next 2-3 years)
C) This team is really looking up with a young nucleus



Trouba is from Michigan. Just as Shattenkirk wanted to play for the Rangers, Trouba wants to play for his boyhood favorite team. We will struggle to resign him if he gets to UFA.




We're not the Islanders. When was the last time a player spurned us? Fuck that boyhood team shit. He's gonna get paid and get paid well with a marquee franchise like the Rangers.



I hate this take. The rangers havenít won a cup since Ď94. Can we stop pretending that weíre some high and mighty holier than thou organization.


Except we are. Players have always wanted to come here. Players have taken LESS to come here. Yeah, the success on the ice hasn't been there, but there's no denying that the New York Rangers are one of the most popular destinations for hockey players. We see it time and time again.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Not to sound arrogant, but I can't see how Trouba doesn't re-sign here  
Anakim : 6/18/2019 8:32 am : link
In comment 14475228 pjcas18 said:
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A) It's New York City
B) We have a shit ton of cap space now and in the future (remember Henrik, Shatty, Staal and Smith are coming off the books in the next 2-3 years)
C) This team is really looking up with a young nucleus



Trouba is from Michigan. Just as Shattenkirk wanted to play for the Rangers, Trouba wants to play for his boyhood favorite team. We will struggle to resign him if he gets to UFA.




We're not the Islanders. When was the last time a player spurned us? Fuck that boyhood team shit. He's gonna get paid and get paid well with a marquee franchise like the Rangers.



Yeah, the Red Wings are a flash in the pan, also-ran team. Detroit is sometimes called Hockey Town for a reason.

He's getting paid no matter what, unless he suffers a catastrophic injury.

I'm not saying he won't sign in NY, but at this point, he should probably test free agency.



Never said they were (although Detroit is a hellhole). Red Wings are an iconic franchise too.
Ehhhhhh, I'm not crazy about moving Buch  
Anakim : 6/18/2019 8:38 am : link
Darren Dreger

@DarrenDreger
NYR land a high quality Dman in Trouba and likely not done yet with guys like Kreider, Vesey, Namestnikov and Buchnevich potentially in play. Could be an interesting week/wknd for the Rangers.
Anak  
JonC : 6/18/2019 8:45 am : link
NYC life isn't for everyone.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Not to sound arrogant, but I can't see how Trouba doesn't re-sign here  
JayBinQueens : 6/18/2019 8:57 am : link
In comment 14475243 Anakim said:
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A) It's New York City
B) We have a shit ton of cap space now and in the future (remember Henrik, Shatty, Staal and Smith are coming off the books in the next 2-3 years)
C) This team is really looking up with a young nucleus



Trouba is from Michigan. Just as Shattenkirk wanted to play for the Rangers, Trouba wants to play for his boyhood favorite team. We will struggle to resign him if he gets to UFA.




We're not the Islanders. When was the last time a player spurned us? Fuck that boyhood team shit. He's gonna get paid and get paid well with a marquee franchise like the Rangers.



I hate this take. The rangers havenít won a cup since Ď94. Can we stop pretending that weíre some high and mighty holier than thou organization.



Except we are. Players have always wanted to come here. Players have taken LESS to come here. Yeah, the success on the ice hasn't been there, but there's no denying that the New York Rangers are one of the most popular destinations for hockey players. We see it time and time again.


Haha - as one of the most popular destinations it's sad how many cups the Rangers have won yet the Ranger fans act like they're the Yankees
Players act like the Rangers are the Yankees  
Phil in LA : 6/18/2019 8:59 am : link
maybe they get a deal on Yankee tickets when they arrive.
Winnipeg Sun article  
Professor Falken : 6/18/2019 9:02 am : link
from last night:

ďBut Iím super excited for a new hockey opportunity and a new place. Itís different, so thatís something youíre naturally excited about. I havenít thought too much into it, but I know a couple of guys there. You know about the city and playing at MSG on the road, for me, was one of my favourite spots to play. Just with the history and the crowd and the buzz, itís just a whole new world. Iím excited for new avenues of life and new experiences.Ē

As for his future, Trouba wasnít ready to discuss whether he was open to signing a long-term deal with the Rangers.

ďWe havenít really worried about it. Iím just trying to get through the night and enjoy it and everything thatís going on,Ē Trouba said. ďIím sure weíll deal with it in the morning and start those talks in the morning.Ē


Trouba - ( New Window )
I really don't think they'd have pulled the trigger  
Greg from LI : 6/18/2019 9:04 am : link
If they didn't have a very good chance of signing him.
RE: Players act like the Rangers are the Yankees  
Anakim : 6/18/2019 9:05 am : link
In comment 14475294 Phil in LA said:
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maybe they get a deal on Yankee tickets when they arrive.


This. No one is comparing the Rangers history with the Yankees'.
RE: RE: Players act like the Rangers are the Yankees  
JayBinQueens : 6/18/2019 9:10 am : link
In comment 14475305 Anakim said:
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maybe they get a deal on Yankee tickets when they arrive.



This. No one is comparing the Rangers history with the Yankees'.


No one is comparing the history, just the arrogance of the fan bases
RE: I really don't think they'd have pulled the trigger  
JayBinQueens : 6/18/2019 9:10 am : link
In comment 14475303 Greg from LI said:
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If they didn't have a very good chance of signing him.

It's possible - even if he's a 1 year rental it's still a good price. They would probably be able to get a similar return in February if they don't think he's going to sign
Gorton  
Professor Falken : 6/18/2019 9:15 am : link
The Rangers did not get permission to speak with Trouba and his agent, Kurt Overhardt, prior to the trade. But Gorton, who has since spoken with Trouba and Overhardt, and will again in the next few days, has a pretty good idea of what the contract numbers will look like.

ďI have an idea what I think it will take, but itís my ballpark,Ē Gorton said. ďI havenít talked to those guys about numbers. Weíve done our research to factor in what we think it might be and what a player like thatís worth. So weíll move forward like that with complete confidence that we can get a deal done.Ē
Gorton - ( New Window )
Great...Rangers had the 2 worst D-Men in Hockey  
mvftw : 6/18/2019 9:24 am : link
Pionk & Staal...1 more to go...
important factor, imo: Quinn  
ColHowPepper : 6/18/2019 9:25 am : link
if he and Trouba hit it off, that would be a positive. Quinn has a very strong presence.

I really don't care for Anakim's take either, JonC's point being near top of the list. Just look how successful that has been for the other Manhattan winter sports franchise
Anak  
bigbluehoya : 6/18/2019 9:42 am : link
I share your optimism that Trouba will re-sign. Hopefully it happens.

More generally, probably a better look to quietly enjoy the fact that players have indeed seemed to view NYR as a preferred destination, and more importantly hope that it remains that way.

Beyond that, the bombast is understandably grating to other fans who might participate in the discussion. (Of course, if tweaking them is a goal, you have your finger on the right button).
I'm not tweaked by it  
pjcas18 : 6/18/2019 9:50 am : link
unless you meant Devils fans.

Facts are facts, but propping up the Rangers over the Red Wings, I think misses the mark when the player is from Michigan.

And it doesn't matter if Detroit is a hell hole, I'm guessing these guys with homes in Michigan, don't raise their kids in Detroit.

Same thing I imagine is true in Boston, just look at the post-loss interviews, all those guys had tears in their eyes and said they couldn't imagine playing anywhere else (the local guys or guys who played college there like Coyle, Acciari, Krug, etc.)

wasn't specific to you  
bigbluehoya : 6/18/2019 9:54 am : link
I was cringing at it myself as I ready through his comments, and I'm a NYR fan.
RE: wasn't specific to you  
pjcas18 : 6/18/2019 9:57 am : link
In comment 14475377 bigbluehoya said:
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I was cringing at it myself as I ready through his comments, and I'm a NYR fan.


Yeah, definitely cringe worthy, but it's not new. He says that all the time. And sometimes he's right. NY is a "destination".

No one wants to play in MTL right now. taxes, exchange rate pressure. the only ones who want to play there are the natives like Drouin who is the nuke laloosh of hockey.

but I also think he overestimates how much a player would do to play there.
RE: Ehhhhhh, I'm not crazy about moving Buch  
BC Eagles94 : 6/18/2019 10:02 am : link
In comment 14475255 Anakim said:
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Darren Dreger

@DarrenDreger
NYR land a high quality Dman in Trouba and likely not done yet with guys like Kreider, Vesey, Namestnikov and Buchnevich potentially in play. Could be an interesting week/wknd for the Rangers.


Would think Rangers would need to trade Kreider, now that we obtained Trouba, if we want to make a run at Bread Man. And I'm not sure that alone would do it. Would prob have to buy out one of the d-men too I think. But I think we could wait to do all that, if we actually signed Bread Man...right? Wouldn't see the point in doing either unless we signed him.
seems like a bunch of folks here read The Athletic this AM  
ColHowPepper : 6/18/2019 10:09 am : link
(:

couple snippets:
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Heís not a No. 1 defenseman but heís a really good second-pair defenseman who can play on the top pair. Heís comfortable playing against the toughest competition. Without Dustin Byfuglien blocking the way, Trouba should be more of a regular on the power play.
ďHeíll be a lot better on a different team,Ē said one NHL coach. ďHeís more nuts and bolts Ė hard hat. Ö Heís strong on the puck. ...

.....The Rangers are going to have to deal with a hard-lining agent in Kurt Overhardt, and if they extend the restricted free agent on a long-term deal, itís probably going to be for more money than you want Ė likely at least $7 million per season. But thatís the price of poker. They knew that going in.
....Trouba might have the perfect personality to play in New York because none of the outside noise bothers him at all.


The last item for Anak

And the point is made that if he won't agree to NYR terms on a LT deal, he has value in a move late next season.
Dreger said  
Phil in LA : 6/18/2019 10:10 am : link
the list that Trouba gave to the Jets only included two teams he's be willing to sign an extension with. Presumably the other one was Detroit.
I'm optimistic he'll sign  
Ross : 6/18/2019 10:10 am : link
From the twitter:

"I can see myself being in New York for a long time." - new #NYR @JacobTrouba
RE: important factor, imo: Quinn  
Anakim : 6/18/2019 10:41 am : link
In comment 14475342 ColHowPepper said:
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if he and Trouba hit it off, that would be a positive. Quinn has a very strong presence.

I really don't care for Anakim's take either, JonC's point being near top of the list. Just look how successful that has been for the other Manhattan winter sports franchise


Knicks aren't a FA destination...yet. Rangers have been way more successful in recruiting and obtaining free agents than the Knicks have.

Then again, the Knicks have rarely had cap space and the NBA's cap is more complicated than the NHL's.
now if Henrik can be convinced to go live near his Sister  
Dave : 6/18/2019 10:44 am : link
in sf, we can commit tot he young goalies and gain some flexibility$
RE: Anak  
Anakim : 6/18/2019 10:48 am : link
In comment 14475358 bigbluehoya said:
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I share your optimism that Trouba will re-sign. Hopefully it happens.

More generally, probably a better look to quietly enjoy the fact that players have indeed seemed to view NYR as a preferred destination, and more importantly hope that it remains that way.

Beyond that, the bombast is understandably grating to other fans who might participate in the discussion. (Of course, if tweaking them is a goal, you have your finger on the right button).


I'm just stating the reality. Players flock here.

You know, I think the whole "Playing for an Original 6" thing is a bit overstated, but it just so happens that, in my opinion, the top-4 destinations for players are New York City, Montreal, Toronto, and Chicago.
RE: Dreger said  
Anakim : 6/18/2019 11:02 am : link
In comment 14475405 Phil in LA said:
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the list that Trouba gave to the Jets only included two teams he's be willing to sign an extension with. Presumably the other one was Detroit.


Yep.

NHL Prospects Watcher
@Prospects_Watch
Dreger on TSN1050 says Kevin Cheveldayoff was really boxed in, Trouba made it abundantly clear there were only specific teams he would go to, Troubaís list wasnít 10 teams long or even 5 teams long, Dreger believes it was 1 or 2 teams long. #NYR #NHLJets


i.e. Detroit and New York
Great news for the Rangers  
Anakim : 6/18/2019 11:19 am : link
Bob McKenzie

@TSNBobMcKenzie
Multiple teams Iíve spoken to are very concerned about this cap forecast. Many fear that when the NHL and NHLPA settle on an upper limit this week, it will be LESS than $82M for next season, or an increase of only slightly more than $2M.


Means cap-strapped teams will be looking to unload salaries and with that, assets.
RE: RE: Dreger said  
MetsAreBack : 6/18/2019 11:30 am : link
In comment 14475494 Anakim said:
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In comment 14475405 Phil in LA said:


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the list that Trouba gave to the Jets only included two teams he's be willing to sign an extension with. Presumably the other one was Detroit.



Yep.

NHL Prospects Watcher
@Prospects_Watch
Dreger on TSN1050 says Kevin Cheveldayoff was really boxed in, Trouba made it abundantly clear there were only specific teams he would go to, Troubaís list wasnít 10 teams long or even 5 teams long, Dreger believes it was 1 or 2 teams long. #NYR #NHLJets


i.e. Detroit and New York


Not following this. Trouba didnít have a no trade clause and the rangers didnít get to speak with his agent about an extension. And isnít he a RFA... right now ... or is spotrac wrong about that? So there is technically a chance he signs somewhere that we canít or choose not to match?
MAB  
bigbluehoya : 6/18/2019 11:35 am : link
he's a RFA right now. Spotrac shows him as such.
Anyway the Rangers can attract FAs pretty well  
MetsAreBack : 6/18/2019 11:36 am : link
Thatís never been the issue - but cash is still king in this business and I canít think of more than a few hometown discounts over the years.

Hopefully Skjei and Trouba being pretty close will help sell him on staying here.
RE: Great news for the Rangers  
ManningLobsItBurressAlone : 6/18/2019 11:36 am : link
In comment 14475514 Anakim said:
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Bob McKenzie

@TSNBobMcKenzie
Multiple teams Iíve spoken to are very concerned about this cap forecast. Many fear that when the NHL and NHLPA settle on an upper limit this week, it will be LESS than $82M for next season, or an increase of only slightly more than $2M.


Means cap-strapped teams will be looking to unload salaries and with that, assets.


Curious as to why you think this is great news. In the Rangers shoes, I don't know how great that is. With the anchor contracts and dead cap we already have, we could use the extra wiggle room with the cap. Especially if we plan on making other big moves (Panarin).

We would be a team that can really utilize attaching an asset to a contract (Staal/Smith and to a lesser extent Shatty IMO). If there are more teams now doing this because of the lower cap, wouldn't that mean greater supply than team's out there that would be looking to take on a contract for an asset? Would imagine there are better, bad contracts to take on than Marc Staal's or Smith's.

Curious as to your POV.
Trouba's fiance is looking for a medical residency  
TheMick7 : 6/18/2019 11:40 am : link
& what better place than NYC. He said so as much this AM & said he could see himself signing long term w/the Rangers!
RE: RE: Great news for the Rangers  
Anakim : 6/18/2019 11:46 am : link
In comment 14475537 ManningLobsItBurressAlone said:
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Bob McKenzie

@TSNBobMcKenzie
Multiple teams Iíve spoken to are very concerned about this cap forecast. Many fear that when the NHL and NHLPA settle on an upper limit this week, it will be LESS than $82M for next season, or an increase of only slightly more than $2M.


Means cap-strapped teams will be looking to unload salaries and with that, assets.



Curious as to why you think this is great news. In the Rangers shoes, I don't know how great that is. With the anchor contracts and dead cap we already have, we could use the extra wiggle room with the cap. Especially if we plan on making other big moves (Panarin).

We would be a team that can really utilize attaching an asset to a contract (Staal/Smith and to a lesser extent Shatty IMO). If there are more teams now doing this because of the lower cap, wouldn't that mean greater supply than team's out there that would be looking to take on a contract for an asset? Would imagine there are better, bad contracts to take on than Marc Staal's or Smith's.

Curious as to your POV.


Mika Zibanejad and Brady Skjei are the only two players on the current roster whose contracts extend into 2021-22, which is when the Seattle Expansion Draft will be. Teams are desperate to not only shed salary but to shed longterm deals so they don't have to protect them.

The Rangers are in optimal position. They have cap space this year and it will only get better when guys like Staal, Smith, Shattenkirk and the King come off the books. We can afford to take on some "bad" contracts in order to get assets like prospects and draft picks.
Good points  
ManningLobsItBurressAlone : 6/18/2019 12:24 pm : link
but it seems as if the Rangers aren't done making moves, and I can certainly see them making a play for Panarin. If we agree with that or not, that's besides the point. I would personally like the move.

According to CapFriendly, we are currently at about $19M in cap space, with no RFA's signed. Using projected salary numbers from Blueshirt Banter, I'm going to assume Trouba signs a deal with an AAV of $7.5, and Buch and DeAngelo sign bridge deals at $3.25 a season, while Lemiuex signs a bridge at $1.1. Kakko's deal would come in just under $1M as well. Right there we would be adding about $16M to our cap, reducing our space to just about $3M.

There are definitely ways to free up space...Burying Smith in the minors saves $1.075, trading Vesey ($2.275), trading Names ($4M), trading Kreider ($4.625), trading Strome ($3.1M). Right there is a total of $15.075.

I've said it before, I'm nowhere near interested in a buyout of any of our players. I'm more interested in being a club that attaches an asset to facilitate a trade.

If we have no visions of making a run at Panarin or any other FAs, then yes, I can certainly see us taking on assets/contracts, but I can see us being players in FA.
kind of curious to the Board's reactions generally  
ColHowPepper : 6/18/2019 12:54 pm : link
with JD coming in and, from what we can see and what we are hearing, plans on accelerating the re-build hard via trade route, vs. slower climb toward Playoff contention by being patient with a roster growing younger and (hopefully) more talented by the month.
My take is  
ManningLobsItBurressAlone : 6/18/2019 1:29 pm : link
I really like what we're doing.

Trouba just turned 25 in February, and hopefully with a long term contract, is the workhorse of our defense for years. This is a player who helps right now, and in the future when all the kids would be coming into their own. I'm also a proponent of going after Panarin who turns 28 in October, and again, will be a player that helps win now, as well as fits into the future plans.

I think we're in a position with making this trade (and adding Panarin), we can be competitive now, as well as still having youth infusions reinforce the roster as they are ready. Players like Trouba/Panarin should only help these young players grow. A guy like Panarin would also be a major help with our Russian trio coming over, even if he only makes the transition a comfortable one for them.

I also am someone who does not want to buyout a defender, but would rather attach an asset to remove the contract (Staal), bury them (Smith) or let them run their course (Shatty). I understand that these contracts, and Hank's, as well as Hank's declining performance are what would hold this team back, but hopefully with a shored up defense, and more rotation with Georgiev, we can mitigate some of that.

Looking down the line at potential/notable impact UFA forwards that are under 30 in future off-seasons:
2020
Alex Galchenyuk (26)
Ryan Nugent-Hopkins (27)
Taylor Hall (28)
Tyler Toffoli (28)
Charlie Coyle (28)
Brayden Schenn (29)
Mike Hoffman (30)

2021
Brandon Saad (28)
Gabriel Landeskog (28)
Jaden Schwartz (29)
Brendan Gallagher (29)
Tomas Tatar (30)

Most of these guys will probably be signed long term, and never reach FA, and if they don't. I think Panarin's game should age well on a long term deal.

RE: kind of curious to the Board's reactions generally  
rnargi : 6/18/2019 1:30 pm : link
In comment 14475634 ColHowPepper said:
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with JD coming in and, from what we can see and what we are hearing, plans on accelerating the re-build hard via trade route, vs. slower climb toward Playoff contention by being patient with a roster growing younger and (hopefully) more talented by the month.


I know I'd rather have them competetive sooner than later, but the guys with the bigger brains around here are mostly adament against the buyouts, so I'm deferring to them. If they think it's better long term to have a painful but franchise curing season this year, I'm on board. I have to say, I really like what they're doing right now.
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arcarsenal : 6/18/2019 2:06 pm : link
A little patience will go a long way here. I'm thrilled with the Trouba move, but it also doesn't do anything to zap future potential away from the team in the name of winning now - it will hopefully help the team while their window starts opening back up if we can keep him here; but if not, it won't hurt us and we'll be able to recoup (likely) a 1st in a deadline deal.

It's better to absorb the contracts you want to get rid of now, while the team isn't in a Cup contending phase. It's just 2 years on these guys (including Hank)

So, I think the smart move would be to really focus on the youth movement and developing those kids over these next 2 years, and then, when Staal, Smith, Shattenkirk, and Lundqvist are all off the books, we'll have the ammo we need to supplement the team with the necessary talent and then this should, hopefully, be a Cup contender by that point.

If we can compete a little sooner without being short-sighted, great - but I think that's the most realistic window right now.

These won't be tank years... but we won't be ready to really complete in a playoff landscape just yet. Which is fine. Stay the course.
Keep in mind  
PaulN : 6/18/2019 3:37 pm : link
Next years draft is going to be a great one, and very deep. Last year it was this good we had numb nuts giving up the farm for St. Louis. Thank God he is gone, although he left parting gifts with the Girardi, Staal, Smith, Shattinkirk, and Lundqvist contcacts.
Any projections on  
XBRONX : 6/18/2019 5:59 pm : link
the Rangers top 6 Dmen next year.
NYR Top 6 Def as of now  
JPinstripes : 6/18/2019 6:53 pm : link
Skjei-Trouba
Hajek-D'Angelo
Staal/Shattenkirk
Smith 7th D / 13th F

Fox, Rykov and Lindgren start the year in Hartford.
Miller, Lundkvist and Reunanen a year or two away.

Hopefully one or more of Staal, Shattenkirk and Smith are either traded, buried in Hartford and/or bought out.
Good trade for the Rangers  
Mike from Ohio : 6/18/2019 8:03 pm : link
They are doing this rebuild well so far. The price was low because he is either a one year rental, or they will need to pay up next year. But much easier to commit to that after seeing him play in your system for a year.

Good discussion, with the exception of Anakís rabid and blind homerism which is nothing new. There are plenty of people who donít dream of living in New York.
RE: NYR Top 6 Def as of now  
ColHowPepper : 6/18/2019 8:37 pm : link
In comment 14476006 JPinstripes said:
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Skjei-Trouba
Hajek-D'Angelo
Staal/Shattenkirk
Smith 7th D / 13th F
JP, I'll be watching intently to see how far off Fox and Rykov are. I guess it's a given, but it's worth pointing out that with JD, Gorton, and Quinn the Rangers have superb hockey people at positions that matter and capable of assessing talent and their appropriate level of competition.
Would love to  
XBRONX : 6/18/2019 8:49 pm : link
see one of the young guys on the third pair. Smith buried in the AHL and Staal watching upstairs.
Welcome  
SJGiant : 6/18/2019 10:39 pm : link
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Anakim : 6/18/2019 10:50 pm : link
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Kevin Hayes. 7 years. 50 million.
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