NFT: Rangers acquire D Jacob Trouba

The Devils couldn't beat that?

going to Winnipeg.

Finally got their D-man.

So pretty much it was:

Hayes for ROS and Pionk for Trouba and Lemieux.

Someone call the cops

Solid defensive asset acquired. With this move I do expect they'll engineer one buyout probably Smith or try damn hard to pair an asset and find a trade partner for Staal.

Trouba brings a nice upgrade to the defense, especially if the Rangers can work out a long-term deal with him.

The rebuild is officially in acceleration mode for NYR.

Great trade, gave up only the 20th pick in the draft as Pionk is a restricted free agent.

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mgiht be the new coach down in Hartford.

Trouba will cost a decent penny now on a new long term deal and he may not be an elite two way guy but he�s very solid both ends.

Waiting to see what Shero has up his sleeve for the Devs.

In comment 14474821 Phil in LA said:

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mgiht be the new coach down in Hartford.

Lol!

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The Winnipeg Jets really just traded a legit 25 year old top pairing defenseman for Neal Pionk and 26 games of Kevin Hayes

Im waiting for the Isles Glen Sather to actually do something. All my fellow fans tell me to trust the guy who hasnt won anything in many many years

the only downside of course is we dont have an extension in place, but I guess if they can't come to terms this season he's got tremendous trade value at the deadline (of course, we would rather he re-sign)

Well done by Gorton. But I still don't want to buy anyone out please.

In comment 14474836 JPinstripes said:

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Dimitri Filipovic ‏Verified account @DimFilipovic The Winnipeg Jets really just traded a legit 25 year old top pairing defenseman for Neal Pionk and 26 games of Kevin Hayes

haha... well that ignores the whole notion of a salary cap. Rangers fans certainly know that pain from 4-5 years ago (Hagelin, Talbot, Yandle, etc.)

In comment 14474836 JPinstripes said:

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Dimitri Filipovic ‏Verified account @DimFilipovic The Winnipeg Jets really just traded a legit 25 year old top pairing defenseman for Neal Pionk and 26 games of Kevin Hayes

Sounds as if Trouba was refusing to extend outright with teams trying to trade for him and plans fully to go to FA next offseason. Jets leverage was very low. Rangers paid a rental price for one year.

If they sign him long term, good trade but he�s apparently testing FA next year without question. He could get 9 -10m a year.

going after a rental player? I�ve heard he�s very likely to head to Detroit once he�s a UFA?

If Rangers can extend him, it�s a really nice price.

Had they waited they certainly would have gotten a better offer either by the draft or during. The Devils and Islanders were hot for him as well. The Devils have plenty of ammo that could have beaten that offer easily.

I hate to say it but that was a phenomenal trade for the Rangers.

He'll still be a great asset at the deadline

Sure better than Kreider and a 1st.

In comment 14474845 Metnut said:

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going after a rental player? I�ve heard he�s very likely to head to Detroit once he�s a UFA? If Rangers can extend him, it�s a really nice price.

Teams were allowed to negotiate with him during talks so I assume the Rangers are confident an extension will be agreed to.

The talent is accumulating and trouba is only 25. Why wouldn't he give a fair hearing to the Rangers about a long term deal? It's a NY original six franchise headed in the right direction with the #2 pick in hand. He'll be here a year and it's a first class organization with a lot of perks in and around town. I'd say it's at least 50/50 they lock him up even if he dips a toe into FA.

In comment 14474851 Davisian said:

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He'll still be a great asset at the deadline

Good point. Lowers the risk.

This is our next McDonagh.

Didn't give up much, could re-sign him or flip him for something else.

A kid who might be a top 4 defenseman if everything works out perfectly but could also be a bottom pair liability.

two of the three bad D contracts.

Fantastic deal by Gorton and I�d be surprised if they didn�t extend him

In comment 14474845 Metnut said:

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going after a rental player? I�ve heard he�s very likely to head to Detroit once he�s a UFA? If Rangers can extend him, it�s a really nice price.

If he doesn�t sign by February they�ll flip him for the first round pick back. It only cost them Pionk to make a run here - that�s a no brainer. Good start for the JD - Gorton duo. ...i just don�t want to read we are paying Girardi and Staal off our cap for the next four years now.

and so that guys like K'Andre and Nils don't refuse to sign when the time comes.

If hes balking at resigning then chances are he wasn't reupping with us. Nobody does. For that price though the Rangers did a great job. You guys probably have a better shot at convincing him to re-up

Is he a RFA right now? Hopefully they can at least lock him up for two years since we have plenty of cap to absorb him this season

In comment 14474894 Phil in LA said:

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and so that guys like K'Andre and Nils don't refuse to sign when the time comes.

All the bad contracts, including frankly Hank, expire in two years. And buyouts next summer might make more sense than dead money for four years... I think we have to pay 3.6 mil on Girardi this year, for example. It�s not a wise move for a team thats most likely not making the postseason this upcoming year.

the athletic had them projected to have about $11m in space prior to this deal so it would seem like there'd need to be a lot of dumping to get in on Panarin.

In comment 14474899 Stu11 said:

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If hes balking at resigning then chances are he wasn't reupping with us. Nobody does. For that price though the Rangers did a great job. You guys probably have a better shot at convincing him to re-up

If that's the case then I am glad we didn't make the move but the Devils have the most cap space in the league and they could have made him a huge offer.

In comment 14474899 Stu11 said:

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If hes balking at resigning then chances are he wasn't reupping with us. Nobody does. For that price though the Rangers did a great job. You guys probably have a better shot at convincing him to re-up

Stu, if the Devils re-sign Hall hopefully they will become more attractive to free agents with Hall, Hughes, Hischier, Palmieri, and Ty Smith.

Awesome. Really liking the direction we're going in here.

I really wish we could get Shattenkirk and his crappy contract out, but I don't want to go buyout route again.

I do think they'll get Trouba to stay here. But even if not, we can flip him for a pick and it won't set us back any.

JD era off to a good start.

Trouba is a bona fide top-4 RD. Our depth is deep enough that we didn't necessarily need #20.

Pionk sucks

We could easily extend him. We don't even have to move salary to do it and frankly, aside from Panarin there's no UFA to really write home about.

In comment 14474964 arcarsenal said:

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Awesome. Really liking the direction we're going in here. I really wish we could get Shattenkirk and his crappy contract out, but I don't want to go buyout route again. I do think they'll get Trouba to stay here. But even if not, we can flip him for a pick and it won't set us back any. JD era off to a good start.

Shattenkirk is the least of our concerns. I'd get rid of Staal and Smith before Shatty

Rangers were NOT given permission to talk to or negotiate with Trouba.....

in last year of contract.

But I agree that buyouts would be dumb. Are the Rangers going to win a championship this year? If not, why would you do a buyout and take away capspace from subsequent years in which presumably the Rangers would be a contender.

In comment 14475082 Mike in St. Louis said:

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Rangers were NOT given permission to talk to or negotiate with Trouba.....

There's talk that Trouba is determined to get to UFA. We'll see.

In comment 14475082 Mike in St. Louis said:

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Rangers were NOT given permission to talk to or negotiate with Trouba.....

That's probably another reason why price was low. It's also somewhat irrelevant since--as others have said--he can likely be moved for a first at the deadline.

Trouba also has some issues so Im glad Rangers will get to see him up close before inking him to a huge deal.

Also, keep in mind that this means the Jets did not think he was worth a big contract.

A) It's New York City
B) We have a shit ton of cap space now and in the future (remember Henrik, Shatty, Staal and Smith are coming off the books in the next 2-3 years)
C) This team is really looking up with a young nucleus

Shattenkirk has the highest salary on the team outside of Hank and he really isn't that good. I'd much rather have that cap space back.

I don't really mind just riding it out with Staal. There's nothing we can really do with Smith. He has no trade value. We can basically just bury him in HFD and that's about it.

Shatty sucks in our zone, he wasn't a good point producer last year, and the cost:value ratio on him is probably one of the worst on the entire team. He was getting healthy scratched like a week into the season.

Just a terrible acquisition and contract. I can't wait until he's gone.

In comment 14475090 Vanzetti said:

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In comment 14475082 Mike in St. Louis said: Quote: Rangers were NOT given permission to talk to or negotiate with Trouba..... That's probably another reason why price was low. It's also somewhat irrelevant since--as others have said--he can likely be moved for a first at the deadline. Trouba also has some issues so Im glad Rangers will get to see him up close before inking him to a huge deal. Also, keep in mind that this means the Jets did not think he was worth a big contract.

I think it's more that Trouba didn't want to be in Winnipeg. He expressed as much. Hell he requested a trade a couple of years ago before settling on a bridge deal.

�mutual interest� in a deal...would give the Rangers another first next year....

Skjei 25 - Trouba 25
Hajek 21-Tony DeAngelo 23
Rykov 22-Fox 21
Lindgren 21/Reunanen 21


With guys like K'Andre, Lundkvist, and Keane


Hell of a future defensive corp

certainly an ideal place to get that training.