It is not Jones fault that the Giants made the most head scratching move of the draft picking him at #6 and getting blasted across the country. But there is still a lot of anger over the selection. The fans can't publicly express it to Mara and the the draft team but they can let it be known how they feel.
Still Jones should just lay low work hard and prove people wrong. He should keep a low profile for a while.
It is not Jones fault that the Giants made the most head scratching move of the draft picking him at #6 and getting blasted across the country. But there is still a lot of anger over the selection. The fans can't publicly express it to Mara and the the draft team but they can let it be known how they feel.
Still Jones should just lay low work hard and prove people wrong. He should keep a low profile for a while.
I'm not sure why it's head-scratching. More than half the people here, in "Giants-land". and the media wanted, nay, insisted that they draft a QB. Just all of those people suck at having any evaluation skills and wanted a media pick does not make the move head-scratching. That's 100% on the scratchers.
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That is not what front runner fans are. Try Cowboys fans - fans when the win, disappear when they lose. The Yankees rarely lose, but even so Yankees fans do not disappear in off years..
Many Cowboy fans are Yankee fans...so there's that
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It is not Jones fault that the Giants made the most head scratching move of the draft picking him at #6 and getting blasted across the country. But there is still a lot of anger over the selection. The fans can't publicly express it to Mara and the the draft team but they can let it be known how they feel.
Still Jones should just lay low work hard and prove people wrong. He should keep a low profile for a while.
That is not what front runner fans are. Try Cowboys fans - fans when the win, disappear when they lose. The Yankees rarely lose, but even so Yankees fans do not disappear in off years..
Can't remember the last Yankee "off" year, what is that, not making the playoffs?
They’re not booing, they’re chanting, “Dave Gettleman, what did you doooooo?”
OK, they were booing. Fans at Yankee Stadium booed the crown jewel of G-man’s 2019 G-men draft class on Monday night, according to multiple print and social-media accounts.
There’s no video (yet) of Jones being shown on the video board at Yankee Stadium, but he apparently was, and he apparently was booed.
It’s not a surprise, given that Jones is the embodiment of the controversial decision to take a quarterback at No. 6 when Jones could have been taken at No. 17. Also, the fans still love Eli Manning — as evidenced by the hostile reaction when the team tried to bench him two years ago.
He's still pushing the false narrative that Jones would have been there at 17. Link - ( New Window )
noticed over the years that there is a sizable Yankees-Cowboys fan base... and they tend to be super annoying.
Sadly, this is true. I have a friend who’s a die hard Yankees, Knicks, Rangers, and Cowboys fan. Every August I tell him to go screw himself until February.
noticed over the years that there is a sizable Yankees-Cowboys fan base... and they tend to be super annoying.
You're being too kind. Cowboys fans are much worse than that.
When they're playing well. When the Cowboys are losing they all disappear. I know every fan base has fair weather fans but no other fan base comes close to the Dallas fans.
but it's definitely a new age/social media driven thing to boo a kid for doing absolutely nothing other than being drafted in a particular spot that some idiots don't like.
You can make an argument that Kyler Murray and Clelin Ferrell were both much greater reaches than was Jones, but since that's not what the mob says then I guess let's just all bitch and moan.
The good news is Jones seems like a tough kid who can handle it and who has been impressing in any and all of the ways he can since getting here.
It's not a millenial thing
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but it's definitely a new age/social media driven thing to boo a kid for doing absolutely nothing other than being drafted in a particular spot that some idiots don't like.
I think it's an intelligence thing. They're fans who don't have the emotional intelligence to distinguish their displeasure with the pick from their (lack of) displeasure with the person, and they lash out at the wrong element.
draft nicks who thought he was a bad pick. A lot of that has been disputed here and by other sources. But the boo birds are guys are who are not that involved like we are here, and not up to date. Sure it just rolled off his back. he knows he is turning it all around after his performance at the OTAs. Hang in there DJ we love what we have seen read and heard here.
like a minority at the stadium. Plenty of Cowboys/Yanks fans, Jets fans, and maybe a few that wanted Eli to die an honorable death on the field.
This is what makes the NY sports landscape so interesting. There are at least 2 major teams in all the sports and allegiances don't run strictly on party lines. This is why other cities fans/sports media is so much more forgiving. One team one fight mentality.
As a Knicks fan this isn't like the KP situation at all either. I actually like the pick at the time because I thought he had all world potential and in the NBA its better to swing for the fences than pick some role player at 4. But Knicks fans are seriously scarred by years of inept management and the infamous Frederick Weis, while stupid, at least it was understandable.
development. North easterners are assholes and I for one I kinda like it. We hold our teams to higher standards and let our disdain be known. Which in turn puts pressure on owndership to win.
Now this behavior is just much more highly publicized and we are able to talk about it on social media platforms with way more people than at the watercooler at work.
Most fanbases are comprised of a majority of morons. Nothing new here. It sucks it happened, and I never would have booed him, but it's a baseball game - you've got people of all different sports backgrounds there. A lot of people who are drunk and stupid. It happens.
Jones can handle it, and I doubt it'll phase him at all.
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Fans like that don’t deserve a kid like DJ. This kid has talent as he has showed in early practices and the goods to have the talking heads questioning there evaluations. But for a bunch or morons to boo this kid is un-fucking real. It disgusts me to no ends. I hope Gettleman/ Mara make a statement to the press.
I would love to see the Headlines in the NY Post or Daily News..
TO ALL WHO BOO’d David Jones...... Fuck You..
Watched the nfl network, and the new england and boston network, espn. Anyone ever wonder why arod was a criminal and big papi a hero. Wonder why Jeter never won an mvp but Pedroia did, with a mediocre season, how porcello wins a cy young. How Andujar gets robbed from a rookie of the year. How Matsui got robbed the rookie of year because he was a vet from Japan which came out from espn right before the vote. Ichiro won it the previous year. Fan bases are stupid, they get their information from espn and the mlb, nfl, nhl, and nba network.
I grew up when their really no Yankee fans in NY except for Wall St Â
Type who kept tickets for out of town investors, and some denizens of the Bronx. Believe it or not growing up in Brooklyn I knew more Cardinal fans than a very rare Yankeebfan So I have never adjusted to Yankees as being a NY hometown team. So of course they booed DJ.
Type who kept tickets for out of town investors, and some denizens of the Bronx. Believe it or not growing up in Brooklyn I knew more Cardinal fans than a very rare Yankeebfan So I have never adjusted to Yankees as being a NY hometown team. So of course they booed DJ.
No Yankee fans in NY except Wall St. types? When was that, 1905?
Tho IMO Philly booing the 76ers in the playoffs with a 10pt lead this yr is about the worst. Sure it was during a comeback after being up 20-30, and a few recent similar comeback Ls. But w/ a lead in the playoffs, really?
And I agree with it completely, they were booing the decision to draft him at 6, which in this case, I do agree with those fans.
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And that’s the thing: This isn’t on Yankees fans. It’s not even on any frustrated Giants fans who may have happened to be there Monday night and just let their instincts take over. I am willing to bet if you polled every person who actually yelled “boo” — every one — they weren’t booing poor Daniel Jones, but rather their belief that the Giants should have taken someone else with the No. 6 pick in the draft.
Which presented these folks — in an era of social media when every human being everywhere is encouraged to express every opinion they have every minute they are breathing — with two choices.
They could have tried to shout, in unison, “WE HATE THAT DAVE GETTLEMAN DIDN’T PICK A DEFENSIVE PLAYER WITH THAT PICK BECAUSE WE REMAIN UNCONVINCED THAT YOU WOULDN’T HAVE BEEN AVAILABLE LATER IN THE FIRST ROUND!!!!!!!”
And I agree with it completely, they were booing the decision to draft him at 6, which in this case, I do agree with those fans.
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And that’s the thing: This isn’t on Yankees fans. It’s not even on any frustrated Giants fans who may have happened to be there Monday night and just let their instincts take over. I am willing to bet if you polled every person who actually yelled “boo” — every one — they weren’t booing poor Daniel Jones, but rather their belief that the Giants should have taken someone else with the No. 6 pick in the draft.
Which presented these folks — in an era of social media when every human being everywhere is encouraged to express every opinion they have every minute they are breathing — with two choices.
They could have tried to shout, in unison, “WE HATE THAT DAVE GETTLEMAN DIDN’T PICK A DEFENSIVE PLAYER WITH THAT PICK BECAUSE WE REMAIN UNCONVINCED THAT YOU WOULDN’T HAVE BEEN AVAILABLE LATER IN THE FIRST ROUND!!!!!!!”
Or, you know: “Boooooo.”
Nothing personal, kid. Booing is easier.
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Do you have a full percentage breakdown/chart of which fan allegiances the boos were coming from?
Still Jones should just lay low work hard and prove people wrong. He should keep a low profile for a while.
Still Jones should just lay low work hard and prove people wrong. He should keep a low profile for a while.
I'm not sure why it's head-scratching. More than half the people here, in "Giants-land". and the media wanted, nay, insisted that they draft a QB. Just all of those people suck at having any evaluation skills and wanted a media pick does not make the move head-scratching. That's 100% on the scratchers.
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That is not what front runner fans are. Try Cowboys fans - fans when the win, disappear when they lose. The Yankees rarely lose, but even so Yankees fans do not disappear in off years..
Many Cowboy fans are Yankee fans...so there's that
Still Jones should just lay low work hard and prove people wrong. He should keep a low profile for a while.
What a joke of a post.
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That is not what front runner fans are. Try Cowboys fans - fans when the win, disappear when they lose. The Yankees rarely lose, but even so Yankees fans do not disappear in off years..
Can't remember the last Yankee "off" year, what is that, not making the playoffs?
OK, they were booing. Fans at Yankee Stadium booed the crown jewel of G-man’s 2019 G-men draft class on Monday night, according to multiple print and social-media accounts.
There’s no video (yet) of Jones being shown on the video board at Yankee Stadium, but he apparently was, and he apparently was booed.
It’s not a surprise, given that Jones is the embodiment of the controversial decision to take a quarterback at No. 6 when Jones could have been taken at No. 17. Also, the fans still love Eli Manning — as evidenced by the hostile reaction when the team tried to bench him two years ago.
He's still pushing the false narrative that Jones would have been there at 17.
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Sadly, this is true. I have a friend who’s a die hard Yankees, Knicks, Rangers, and Cowboys fan. Every August I tell him to go screw himself until February.
Probably were kids in 1978, when both teams won championships.
You're being too kind. Cowboys fans are much worse than that.
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noticed over the years that there is a sizable Yankees-Cowboys fan base... and they tend to be super annoying.
You're being too kind. Cowboys fans are much worse than that.
When they're playing well. When the Cowboys are losing they all disappear. I know every fan base has fair weather fans but no other fan base comes close to the Dallas fans.
Millenials growing up on Twitter and Instagram, who hide behind their anonymity, easily throwing out cruel statements without repurcussion.
Evolution..
Now it's branching out into the mainstream. Our world is totally fucked.
Millenials growing up on Twitter and Instagram, who hide behind their anonymity, easily throwing out cruel statements without repurcussion.
Evolution..
Now it's branching out into the mainstream. Our world is totally fucked.
Why just millenials?
Millenials growing up on Twitter and Instagram, who hide behind their anonymity, easily throwing out cruel statements without repurcussion.
Evolution..
Now it's branching out into the mainstream. Our world is totally fucked.
Unlike in past decades, when booing was unheard of?
God knows I'm always down to mock millennials, but this is just silly.
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This is our culture today..
Millenials growing up on Twitter and Instagram, who hide behind their anonymity, easily throwing out cruel statements without repurcussion.
Evolution..
Now it's branching out into the mainstream. Our world is totally fucked.
Why just millenials?
They're the only ones on his lawn.
You can make an argument that Kyler Murray and Clelin Ferrell were both much greater reaches than was Jones, but since that's not what the mob says then I guess let's just all bitch and moan.
The good news is Jones seems like a tough kid who can handle it and who has been impressing in any and all of the ways he can since getting here.
Chris684 : 11:09 am : link : reply
but it's definitely a new age/social media driven thing to boo a kid for doing absolutely nothing other than being drafted in a particular spot that some idiots don't like.
I think it's an intelligence thing. They're fans who don't have the emotional intelligence to distinguish their displeasure with the pick from their (lack of) displeasure with the person, and they lash out at the wrong element.
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This is our culture today..
Millenials growing up on Twitter and Instagram, who hide behind their anonymity, easily throwing out cruel statements without repurcussion.
Evolution..
Now it's branching out into the mainstream. Our world is totally fucked.
Why just millenials?
Very true. Not just millenials. Should've said society as a whole.
In comment 14475485 Coach Red Beaulieu said:
This is what makes the NY sports landscape so interesting. There are at least 2 major teams in all the sports and allegiances don't run strictly on party lines. This is why other cities fans/sports media is so much more forgiving. One team one fight mentality.
As a Knicks fan this isn't like the KP situation at all either. I actually like the pick at the time because I thought he had all world potential and in the NBA its better to swing for the fences than pick some role player at 4. But Knicks fans are seriously scarred by years of inept management and the infamous Frederick Weis, while stupid, at least it was understandable.
In comment 14475577 moespree said:
Millenials growing up on Twitter and Instagram, who hide behind their anonymity, easily throwing out cruel statements without repurcussion.
Evolution..
Now it's branching out into the mainstream. Our world is totally fucked.
Lots of millennials chanting “lock her up” at rallies?
Now this behavior is just much more highly publicized and we are able to talk about it on social media platforms with way more people than at the watercooler at work.
The Venn Diagram of vile scum, NY area Cowboy fans, and ESPN watchers is a pretty neat circle.
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noticed over the years that there is a sizable Yankees-Cowboys fan base... and they tend to be super annoying.
The Venn Diagram of vile scum, NY area Cowboy fans, and ESPN watchers is a pretty neat circle.
Add in message board trolls as the third circle and you might be on to something.
No other fan base would boo, because it doesn't matter to them.
No other fan base would boo, because it doesn't matter to them.
That’s the most idiotic thing I’ve read all week.
Jones can handle it, and I doubt it'll phase him at all.
I would love to see the Headlines in the NY Post or Daily News..
TO ALL WHO BOO’d David Jones...... Fuck You..
who is David Jones?
If this is true, this thread should be deleted. Every Yankee fan and Giant fan would boo.
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who is David Jones?
i guess that makes Dave Gettlemen a daydream believer
No Yankee fans in NY except Wall St. types? When was that, 1905?
Which presented these folks — in an era of social media when every human being everywhere is encouraged to express every opinion they have every minute they are breathing — with two choices.
They could have tried to shout, in unison, “WE HATE THAT DAVE GETTLEMAN DIDN’T PICK A DEFENSIVE PLAYER WITH THAT PICK BECAUSE WE REMAIN UNCONVINCED THAT YOU WOULDN’T HAVE BEEN AVAILABLE LATER IN THE FIRST ROUND!!!!!!!”
Or, you know: “Boooooo.”
Nothing personal, kid. Booing is easier.
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And that’s the thing: This isn’t on Yankees fans. It’s not even on any frustrated Giants fans who may have happened to be there Monday night and just let their instincts take over. I am willing to bet if you polled every person who actually yelled “boo” — every one — they weren’t booing poor Daniel Jones, but rather their belief that the Giants should have taken someone else with the No. 6 pick in the draft.
Which presented these folks — in an era of social media when every human being everywhere is encouraged to express every opinion they have every minute they are breathing — with two choices.
They could have tried to shout, in unison, “WE HATE THAT DAVE GETTLEMAN DIDN’T PICK A DEFENSIVE PLAYER WITH THAT PICK BECAUSE WE REMAIN UNCONVINCED THAT YOU WOULDN’T HAVE BEEN AVAILABLE LATER IN THE FIRST ROUND!!!!!!!”
Or, you know: “Boooooo.”
Nothing personal, kid. Booing is easier.
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Do you have a full percentage breakdown/chart of which fan allegiances the boos were coming from?
TIA.