Thought I'd start a thread for general NHL Draft discussion.
Date: 6/21
Where: Vancouver
The story of the draft so far is that American players are set to dominate the early portion of the draft.
Besides projected #1 Jack Hughes, I've seen as many as 6 of the top 10 projected as American players.
Who are they?
Hughes (C) projected #1, everyone knows him
Cole Caufield has been routinely called the "best goal scorer" in the draft. and he helped himself out in a major way at the U18's in April. I'm still leery of a 5' 7" NHL player, but Alex Debrincat (who Caufield is often compared to) maybe helped dissuade those concerns with his 40 G/76P season as a 21-year old.
Alex Turcotte, another American C, does everything IMO, he can score, play defensively, and is a good skater.
Trevor Zegras, has played W and C, not sure what he is in the NHL, oozes skill and manages to combine it with a hard nose style and good hockey IQ
Matthew Boldy, a LW, he might be my favorite non-Hughes American draftee, I see him as a Ryan O'Reilly type with how he approaches the game, so smart, so skilled, just not a C.
Spencer Knight, #1 rated goalie and if he goes this high would be a rarity, the NHL has moved away from 1st round goalies as a norm
other US notables:
Cam York (beast D, in the McAvoy mold)
Bobby Orr Brink (no shit that's his name) - maybe the sleeper of the bunch, loved his play at the U18's
Arthur Kaliyev, goal scorer? check. Not a great skater though. How then does he join Tavares, Stamkos, Skinner, and Debrincat as the only players to score 50 goals in the OHL in their 17/18 year old seasons? Can't argue with the stats, but he's a guy I'd really want to evaluate at the combone.
Alex Vlasic - a massive kid at 6' 6" at 18 years old and cousin to Marc-douard Vlasic, reminds me a little of the Samuelsson's last year (Ulf and Kjell's kids), need some work, but with that size it's not hard to envision.
Draft order, post Trouba trade:
2019 NHL DRAFT FIRST-ROUND ORDER
1. New Jersey Devils
2. New York Rangers
3. Chicago Blackhawks
4. Colorado Avalanche (from Ottawa Senators)
5. Los Angeles Kings
6. Detroit Red Wings
7. Buffalo Sabres
8. Edmonton Oilers
9. Anaheim Ducks
10. Vancouver Canucks
11. Philadelphia Flyers
12. Minnesota Wild
13. Florida Panthers
14. Arizona Coyotes
15. Montreal Canadiens
16. Colorado Avalanche
17. Vegas Golden Knights
18. Dallas Stars
19. Ottawa Senators (from Columbus Blue Jackets)
20. Winnipeg Jets (from New York Rangers)
21. Pittsburgh Penguins
22. Los Angeles Kings (from Toronto Maple Leafs)
23. New York Islanders
24. Nashville Predators
25. Washington Capitals
26. Calgary Flames
27. Tampa Bay Lightning
28. Carolina Hurricanes
29. Anaheim Ducks [or Buffalo Sabres] (from San Jose Sharks)
30. Boston Bruins
31. Buffalo Sabres [or Anaheim Ducks] (from St. Louis Blues)
Love this for PIT.
No idea why Arizona would do this.
Darren Dreger
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PO Joseph and Galchenyuk to Pittsburgh for Kessel and a 4th round pick.
7:49 PM - 29 Jun 2019
Kessel costs $3M more per year on the cap.
PO Joseph was a 1st round pick in 2017, solid D prospect.
Matthew Joseph's of the Lightning's brother.
Pens win this trade by a lot IMO, unless they are eating salary. Kessel is owed $18M on the cap, Galchenyuk is under contract for this year only for $5.8M.
Just my disdain for Kessel I guess. I don't see him changing anything in AZ, but at the same time I see nothing changing in PIT, and I think that speaks more about Galchenyuk than it does about Kessel.
We will find out.
Stephen Whyno
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45s45 seconds ago
Deal is official: James Reimer traded from Panthers to Hurricanes for Scott Darling, 6th. And Florida is buying out Darling.
Same here but I'm also a little nervous, rumors are the Canadiens will be doing something big. and they didn't buy anyone out (which I supported since no buyout made sense), so that means either trade or one of the 5 or 6 big name FA's.
I've heard Anders Lee, I prefer Duchene, but what they really need is D, I just don't want to pay Tyler Myers $7M+ per season b/c he's the tallest midget in FA among the available D.
Frank Seravalli
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Veteran goalie Mike Smith has chosen the #Oilers. Hes more or less trading places with Cam Talbot, who as we hinted on Monday, is heading to the #Flames.
More on what that means for Lehner, Mrazek, and the rest of the goalie market on @SportsCentre at 6pm ET.
4:32 PM - 30 Jun 2019
I like it. I liked Shaw more than I thought, but he's absolutely expendable.
Canadiens Montral
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18m18 minutes ago
The Canadiens have acquired Chicagos 2nd round pick and 7th round pick in 2020, and the Blackhawks 3rd round pick in 2021, in return for forward Andrew Shaw and the Canadiens 7th round pick in 2021.
DETAILS ➡️ http://goha.bs/2Npe4Fn
Just my disdain for Kessel I guess. I don't see him changing anything in AZ, but at the same time I see nothing changing in PIT, and I think that speaks more about Galchenyuk than it does about Kessel.
We will find out.
You were the one person I wanted to ask about this trade, since you know Galchenyuk.
From what I read, most feel he is like Kessel (lazy defensively, picky about where he wants to play, as in being a center) without the finishing ability or productivity.
From the sounds of it, sounds like PIT got good value given their situation, but that Galchenyuk either will do great and cost too much to re-sign OR the Pens will have his cap space the following season.
What do you think about Galchenyuk?
He should have and would have been the Conn Smyth winner in 2016, except the Toronto/Canadian media had a grudge.
That said, his act wore thin, didn't want to play on 3rd line, only with Malkin and his bad defense rubbed off on Malkin.
Also, some feel he is losing his scoring ability and will not age well.
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loves the trade for the Coyotes, not so much for the Pens.
Just my disdain for Kessel I guess. I don't see him changing anything in AZ, but at the same time I see nothing changing in PIT, and I think that speaks more about Galchenyuk than it does about Kessel.
We will find out.
You were the one person I wanted to ask about this trade, since you know Galchenyuk.
From what I read, most feel he is like Kessel (lazy defensively, picky about where he wants to play, as in being a center) without the finishing ability or productivity.
From the sounds of it, sounds like PIT got good value given their situation, but that Galchenyuk either will do great and cost too much to re-sign OR the Pens will have his cap space the following season.
What do you think about Galchenyuk?
I love Galchenyuk, and he's absolutely a finisher, it's his asset, wicked wrist shot, sick one-timer, he should be the power play shooter.
But yeah, he's been bad defensively, and slow to learn, so coaches like Julien and Therrien buried him.
Very eager to see what Sullivan does for his game.
I don't think he's a C, so I'd play him next to Crosby and slide Guentzel to the Malkin line, Alex may be the most skilled winger to play alongside Crosby if they do that.
Canadiens Montral
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The Canadiens have acquired Anaheims 4th round pick in 2020, in return for forward Nicolas Deslauriers.
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#GoHabsGo
That would make no sense.
I don't see why Panarin would split with Bob, and why he would chose NYI, when he can be with coach Q tax free in FLA.
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thinks speculation is looking like Panarin to NYI and Bobo to FLA. Would be fucking awesome if true. Please happen!
That would make no sense.
I don't see why Panarin would split with Bob, and why he would chose NYI, when he can be with coach Q tax free in FLA.
Because even with Bob and Panarin, Florida is not a playoff team, Islanders are. Not to mention Barry Trotz is no slouch of a Head Coach and New York is more media exposure than Florida.
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thinks speculation is looking like Panarin to NYI and Bobo to FLA. Would be fucking awesome if true. Please happen!
That would make no sense.
I don't see why Panarin would split with Bob, and why he would chose NYI, when he can be with coach Q tax free in FLA.
Because even with Bob and Panarin, Florida is not a playoff team, Islanders are. Not to mention Barry Trotz is no slouch of a Head Coach and New York is more media exposure than Florida.
Whats the breakdown in attendance for both?
even without Panarin.
Barkov is on the cusp of stardom, if he's not there yet.
Ekblad is a little weak for a #1 overall, but he's a solid top pair D (and is still just 23) along with Mattheson, Yandle, etc.
Trochek, Huberdeau, Dadanov..they have some good players.
Pierre LeBrun
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47s47 seconds ago
Pierre LeBrun Retweeted Bob Stauffer
As @Bob_Stauffer mentioned, Im told all signs point to Brett Connolly signing a four-year deal with the Panthers on Monday
that takes balls. two 1sts, a 2nd and a 3rd.
Georges Laraque
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From what I hear, these will be confirmed tomorrow Duchene-Nashville, Bobrovski-Florida and Pavelski-Dallas. Habs will present an offer sheet! De ce que jentends, ce sera confirm demain, Duchene-Nashville, Bobrovski-Floride et Pavelski-Dallas. Le CH prsentera une offre hostile
7:26 PM - 30 Jun 2019
yeah Bob to Florida is as close as we have right now to a mortal lock.
David Pagnotta
@TheFourthPeriod
Looks like Joe Pavelski will sign a three-year contract with Dallas tomorrow. Sounds like the AAV will be in the neighborhood of $7M.
8:24 PM - 30 Jun 2019
Yep just saw that. He wants 5 years. Probably too steap for the Devs. I expect them to hone in on Lee if the Isles sign Panarin and Varlomov
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Yep just saw that. He wants 5 years. Probably too steap for the Devs. I expect them to hone in on Lee if the Isles sign Panarin and Varlomov
It's a 5 year deal for Zuccarello with an AAV of $6 million. That's too long for me.
Gord Miller (@GMillerTSN) June 30, 2019
They can apparently shift the compensation to a year later if theyre missing a pick, or so its been rumored.
Tyler Kelley (@DocKelley41) June 30, 2019
but would you give that up for:
Aho?
Point?
Marner?
Rantanen?
I say yes to all 4 (under 10.5). They're all 23 or younger and already stars.
Matthew Tkachuk?
Timo Meier?
Brock Boeser?
Charlie McAvoy?
more...
Laine? I think he's eligible.
not sure. but I'd think hard about it.
Habs and possibly Wild in on Gardner.
two solid players, but will get overpaid.
Hope Bergevin sets a line and won't cross it.
but would you give that up for:
Aho?
Point?
Marner?
Rantanen?
I say yes to all 4 (under 10.5). They're all 23 or younger and already stars.
Matthew Tkachuk?
Timo Meier?
Brock Boeser?
Charlie McAvoy?
more...
Laine? I think he's eligible.
not sure. but I'd think hard about it.
I agree with you if it's under 10.5 for all 4 of those players without thinking twice. I would do it for Laine also.
Bob McKenzie (@TSNBobMcKenzie) July 1, 2019
Chris Johnston (@reporterchris) July 1, 2019
Hockey Insider
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Sources just told be. NYR dropped out. Panarin will be an islander tomorrow. #NYR #CBJ #Isles
9:14 PM Jun 30, 2019 Twitter for iPhone
Will suck if the Rangers end up getting him
John Shannon
@JSportsnet
The Blue Jackets are still trying to convince Artemi Panarin to return to Columbus. Still hoping theres a chance.
Looks like a 3 team race.
CBJ. NYI. Florida.
@renlavoietva
Hearing AAV could be $13M. Dont know if its the exact number but the biddings are high.
Brian Hedger
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4m4 minutes ago
Confirming Duchene to #Preds $8m for 7 ... hearing #CBJ offered Duchene more than $8 mill/year. That one, however, was always going to be an uphill fight.
Duchene is apparently building a house in Nashville & talked openly about liking that city/area a lot.
Stars moving up to West Conference favorite by winning July.
theScore NHL
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21s21 seconds ago
Report: Perry to sign 1-year deal with Stars https://thesco.re/2Xj8U28
I wonder how they're going to respond to the playoff debacle.