Thought I'd start a thread for general NHL Draft discussion.
Date: 6/21
Where: Vancouver
The story of the draft so far is that American players are set to dominate the early portion of the draft.
Besides projected #1 Jack Hughes, I've seen as many as 6 of the top 10 projected as American players.
Who are they?
Hughes (C) projected #1, everyone knows him
Cole Caufield has been routinely called the "best goal scorer" in the draft. and he helped himself out in a major way at the U18's in April. I'm still leery of a 5' 7" NHL player, but Alex Debrincat (who Caufield is often compared to) maybe helped dissuade those concerns with his 40 G/76P season as a 21-year old.
Alex Turcotte, another American C, does everything IMO, he can score, play defensively, and is a good skater.
Trevor Zegras, has played W and C, not sure what he is in the NHL, oozes skill and manages to combine it with a hard nose style and good hockey IQ
Matthew Boldy, a LW, he might be my favorite non-Hughes American draftee, I see him as a Ryan O'Reilly type with how he approaches the game, so smart, so skilled, just not a C.
Spencer Knight, #1 rated goalie and if he goes this high would be a rarity, the NHL has moved away from 1st round goalies as a norm
other US notables:
Cam York (beast D, in the McAvoy mold)
Bobby Orr Brink (no shit that's his name) - maybe the sleeper of the bunch, loved his play at the U18's
Arthur Kaliyev, goal scorer? check. Not a great skater though. How then does he join Tavares, Stamkos, Skinner, and Debrincat as the only players to score 50 goals in the OHL in their 17/18 year old seasons? Can't argue with the stats, but he's a guy I'd really want to evaluate at the combone.
Alex Vlasic - a massive kid at 6' 6" at 18 years old and cousin to Marc-douard Vlasic, reminds me a little of the Samuelsson's last year (Ulf and Kjell's kids), need some work, but with that size it's not hard to envision.
Draft order, post Trouba trade:
2019 NHL DRAFT FIRST-ROUND ORDER
1. New Jersey Devils
2. New York Rangers
3. Chicago Blackhawks
4. Colorado Avalanche (from Ottawa Senators)
5. Los Angeles Kings
6. Detroit Red Wings
7. Buffalo Sabres
8. Edmonton Oilers
9. Anaheim Ducks
10. Vancouver Canucks
11. Philadelphia Flyers
12. Minnesota Wild
13. Florida Panthers
14. Arizona Coyotes
15. Montreal Canadiens
16. Colorado Avalanche
17. Vegas Golden Knights
18. Dallas Stars
19. Ottawa Senators (from Columbus Blue Jackets)
20. Winnipeg Jets (from New York Rangers)
21. Pittsburgh Penguins
22. Los Angeles Kings (from Toronto Maple Leafs)
23. New York Islanders
24. Nashville Predators
25. Washington Capitals
26. Calgary Flames
27. Tampa Bay Lightning
28. Carolina Hurricanes
29. Anaheim Ducks [or Buffalo Sabres] (from San Jose Sharks)
30. Boston Bruins
31. Buffalo Sabres [or Anaheim Ducks] (from St. Louis Blues)
As an Islander fan I'm hoping Lou trades Leddy for some extra draft picks in future years and then puts a $10.6m offer sheet on someone's 23 year old 60+ point forward. Unless they feel confident they can get Panarin, I'd rather pay the 2 first rounders and get a younger player and pay for as few years 30+ as possible. Marner is the guy everyone talks about but I think the Leafs will match anything on him, but offering on Laine, Point, etc. would put those teams in a real cap bind.
He's neck and neck with Hughes, but a very different player.
It's like comparing Patrick Kane and Jaromir Jagr.
The Canadians also have a major impact on this draft as you'd expect with the firs name probably off the board future top pair D:
Bowen Byram
Then they have 3 big centers in:
Kirby Dach
Dylan Cozens
Peyton Krebs
Dach is a tank, but lacks a little in the skating department. I could live with any of these 3.
Russia has one first round prospect.
Visali Podkolzin. His stock dropped post-U18's. He was projected #3 for a while. I like him, no idea about the disappearing act in the U18's, but not at 3.
Sweden has a couple, my favorite is D Filip Broberg. Best D at the U18's and a lesser Dahlin IMO. Might need to stay in Sweden another year.
My sleeper pick is Maxim Cajkovic from Slovakia. You want to find your Kucherov in the 2nd round, this is the guy I'd roll the dice on. But right now, he's all offense. I think he's projected to go in the 3rd.
As an Islander fan I'm hoping Lou trades Leddy for some extra draft picks in future years and then puts a $10.6m offer sheet on someone's 23 year old 60+ point forward. Unless they feel confident they can get Panarin, I'd rather pay the 2 first rounders and get a younger player and pay for as few years 30+ as possible. Marner is the guy everyone talks about but I think the Leafs will match anything on him, but offering on Laine, Point, etc. would put those teams in a real cap bind.
Leddy to MTL is picking up steam.
Or just every defenseman to MTL is picking up steam.
This year is considered average overall.
Sometimes drafts are top heavy where the top 10 is great and that skews the opinions of people and I won't pretend to know almost anyone outside the top round or round and a half, but from writers I trust, they say this is an average draft. Which is good IMO, because most of these scouts/writers who would say that are always negative.
I've read for the cap space. Here is one blurb, unsourced by Dreger, so likely opinion.
Scrimmage & Stats: Darren Dreger on TSN 690 believes that it would take a team a draft pick or prospect for defenseman Nick Leddy as the New York Islanders need the salary cap space.
lol, I didn't type anything about Hughes or Kakko really, everyone who would read this thread is probably very familiar with them by bow.
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lol, I didn't type anything about Hughes or Kakko really, everyone who would read this thread is probably very familiar with them by bow.
*now
I'm a big fan of Mackenzie Blackwood but it Spencer Knight falls to the 20's I hope the Devils package their first 2nd and either the last 2nd or a 3rd to move up to get Knight.
If Knight doesn't fall that far then I would love to see the Devils trade up for a defenseman or a wing if one falls.
An undersized but talented goalie who should be available in rounds 3-5 is Dustin Wolf. The Devils need to draft another goalie for the system because it is very thin at the moment with only Cormier and Senn as prospects. Neither is likely to be more than AHL depth so adding another prospect especially in the mid to late rounds would be ideal.
Almost peaceful in net and he's better handling the puck than some defenseman I've seen.
Goalie projection is so hard though, however Knight is a guy I'd make the exception for and take in the 1st.
On the left side they have Leddy, Pelech, Hickey, and Toews. Generally Pelech/Hickey were the 2 guys who alternated sitting in the booth but in the playoffs Pelech played well on the top pair with Pulock.
On the right side they have Pulock, Mayfield, and Boychuk - and Dobson is a RD.
Leddy's the guy that makes the most sense but his contract is actually very good so I'd hope he can return something in the ballpark of what Muzzin returned. 3 years left at $5.5m, through his age 31 year. He was their #2 D last year by ice time and points and he improved a lot defensively, but if they want to re-invest some money or assets into more scoring he's the guy they can afford to deal.
They could also deal Mayfield to open up a RD spot for Dobson but he's their best defensive defenseman and his contract is the biggest steal in hockey (4 more years @1.4m) so it would take a large overpay. His contract makes him uniquely sort of perfect for what a team up against the cap like Toronto needs but I personally wouldn't trade him unless the offer was insane.
Almost peaceful in net and he's better handling the puck than some defenseman I've seen.
Goalie projection is so hard though, however Knight is a guy I'd make the exception for and take in the 1st.
Agreed, goalies are so hard to evaluate but Knight seems like a safer bet than usual. I've seen some reports that the Panthers will take him.
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reminds me of Carey Price.
Almost peaceful in net and he's better handling the puck than some defenseman I've seen.
Goalie projection is so hard though, however Knight is a guy I'd make the exception for and take in the 1st.
Agreed, goalies are so hard to evaluate but Knight seems like a safer bet than usual. I've seen some reports that the Panthers will take him.
I was just reading some stuff about trades and the Senators traded Lehner and Ben Bishop. I didn't remember that.
Lehner they at least got a 1st, but Bishop maybe a 4th?
Goalies sometimes take a while to develop.
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Zegras is a tremendous talent, outstanding playmaker with remarkable vision.
Kaedan Korczak, Ryan Johnson and Henry Thrun are three defensemen I have hopes for the the Second or Third Round.
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Flyers continue to remake their defense, acquiring Justin Braun from the Sharks for 2nd round pick in 2019 and 3rd round pick in 2020. Sharks now have their first pick at No. 41, had been No. 91, third-to-last pick in 3rd round
Love him in MTL, but I doubt that happens.
MTL has their sites set more on an older, less mobile D (shocker) in Alex Edler.
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Its not yet a done deal but PHI continues to work toward a long-term contract for pending UFA centre Kevin Hayes and, for now anyway, theres a sense of optimism. Stay tuned. Curious on the market value for Hayes. Six years at north of $6.5 million perhaps?
12:02 PM - 18 Jun 2019
Yeah, there are a few teams with 10 picks, I expect them all to be active (as they can be).
I haven't read about Faulk (though he's always on a list of trade rumors - as are all CAR D) but with some steam I heard Dougie Hamilton could (will) be on the move again.
Another D I'd like in MTL, but I've read he's got a very quirky personality and doesn't fit in a lot of places. A hockey locker room (probably like most sports) is a tough place to crack.
I read WIN is the main trade partner right now and Nickolai Ehlers would be going to CAR and draft picks will be involved - not sure which way. I love Ehlers (when healthy) and think that would be a huge trade.
Some Devils "news" if you subscribe to the Athletic (best money I ever spent online)
The Athletics Corey Masisak (subscription required) lays out the possibilities on what the New Jersey Devils can do with their second-round pick (No. 34). With three second-round picks, the 34th pick is a valuable asset that could allow the team to trade into the first round or use to trade for a significant impact player to bolster its team. The scribe looks at past teams in similar positions, including a 2013 trade in which the Buffalo Sabres traded several players and the No. 31 pick for Ryan OReilly.
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any news or rumors that you hear involving the Canes? I keep hearing that Justin Faulk could be moved. I know we have the 28th pick, but we also have 10 picks, the most of any team this year. I think some trades could be in the works.
Yeah, there are a few teams with 10 picks, I expect them all to be active (as they can be).
I haven't read about Faulk (though he's always on a list of trade rumors - as are all CAR D) but with some steam I heard Dougie Hamilton could (will) be on the move again.
Another D I'd like in MTL, but I've read he's got a very quirky personality and doesn't fit in a lot of places. A hockey locker room (probably like most sports) is a tough place to crack.
I read WIN is the main trade partner right now and Nickolai Ehlers would be going to CAR and draft picks will be involved - not sure which way. I love Ehlers (when healthy) and think that would be a huge trade.
I also read Hamilton to Toronto maybe for Nylander.
All speculation at this point, but I expect him to be moved.
I did just read the Canes approached Faulk for an extensions and want to get it done by 7/1, so I'd be a little surprised if he's traded. he was great in the playoffs, I expect he'd get some interest though. He and Slavin both looked good IMO.
Not sure I get this for either team, but maybe WAS wants to see Tom Wilson stay on the ice and out of the box and figures with Gudas someone else will rough it up a little.
I would imagine they announce on draft night as the ratings should be very good with all the excitement around the two marquee players Hughes and Kappo. As a NYR fan I can't wait until we are on the clock. #Kappo #IloveHughesAlso
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any news or rumors that you hear involving the Canes? I keep hearing that Justin Faulk could be moved. I know we have the 28th pick, but we also have 10 picks, the most of any team this year. I think some trades could be in the works.
Yeah, there are a few teams with 10 picks, I expect them all to be active (as they can be).
I haven't read about Faulk (though he's always on a list of trade rumors - as are all CAR D) but with some steam I heard Dougie Hamilton could (will) be on the move again.
Another D I'd like in MTL, but I've read he's got a very quirky personality and doesn't fit in a lot of places. A hockey locker room (probably like most sports) is a tough place to crack.
I read WIN is the main trade partner right now and Nickolai Ehlers would be going to CAR and draft picks will be involved - not sure which way. I love Ehlers (when healthy) and think that would be a huge trade.
I also read Hamilton to Toronto maybe for Nylander.
All speculation at this point, but I expect him to be moved.
I did just read the Canes approached Faulk for an extensions and want to get it done by 7/1, so I'd be a little surprised if he's traded. he was great in the playoffs, I expect he'd get some interest though. He and Slavin both looked good IMO.
thanks for the info!
Marleau
Zaitsev
Perry
Lucic
Hayes
Maybe Zucker or Brodie but it depends on cost.
Marleau
Zaitsev
Perry
Lucic
Hayes
Maybe Zucker or Brodie but it depends on cost.
What do you think MTL would give back for Leddy?
Jack Hughes expected 1st overall selection.
Potentially 8 first round picks.
15 players listed as USA, NTDP U18 expected to be drafted
Here is the list:
Jack Hughes (LC, USA, NTDP U18)
Alex Turcotte (LC, USA, NTDP U18)
Trevor Zegras (LC, USA, NTDP U18)
Matthew Boldy (LW, USA, NTDP U18)
Cole Caufield (RW, USA, NTDP U18)
Cam York (LD, USA, NTDP U18)
Alex Vlasic (LD, USA, NTDP U18)
Spencer Knight (G, USA, NTDP U18)
Marshall Warren (LD, USA, NTDP U18)
Henry Thrun (LD, USA, NTDP U18)
Drew Helleson (RD, USA, NTDP U18)
Cameron Rowe (G, USA, NTDP U18)
Judd Caulfield (RW, USA, NTDP U18)
Cade Webber (LD, USA, NTDP U18)
Michael Gildon (LW, USA, NTDP U18)
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trade targets:
Marleau
Zaitsev
Perry
Lucic
Hayes
Maybe Zucker or Brodie but it depends on cost.
What do you think MTL would give back for Leddy?
Drouin?
LOl, wishful thinking.
2nd round pick and a prospect, maybe.
How bad is his contract?
@TSNBobMcKenzie
PHI and pending UFA Kevin Hayes are closing in on a multi-year contract with an AAV of around $7M. Term expected to be at least six years, perhaps seven. Prepare to take another UFA off the board.
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trade targets:
Marleau
Zaitsev
Perry
Lucic
Hayes
Maybe Zucker or Brodie but it depends on cost.
What do you think MTL would give back for Leddy?
Drouin?
LOl, wishful thinking.
2nd round pick and a prospect, maybe.
How bad is his contract?
I believe its 5.5 for 3 more years.
Hes still a strong pick moving D man
Jumbo Joe looked decent in the playoffs.
It's like he and Chara having a stare down to see who retires first.
Both heading into their 22nd seasons.
Thornton a few years younger.
@TSNBobMcKenzie
PHI and pending UFA Kevin Hayes are closing in on a multi-year contract with an AAV of around $7M. Term expected to be at least six years, perhaps seven. Prepare to take another UFA off the board.
Brock Nelson had a better season last year, more balanced 2-way player, and had a better playoffs IMO. Glad to see that the Isles extension is already proving to be better than the market.
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Bob McKenzie
@TSNBobMcKenzie
PHI and pending UFA Kevin Hayes are closing in on a multi-year contract with an AAV of around $7M. Term expected to be at least six years, perhaps seven. Prepare to take another UFA off the board.
Brock Nelson had a better season last year, more balanced 2-way player, and had a better playoffs IMO. Glad to see that the Isles extension is already proving to be better than the market.
7 years 50 mil (7.14/year) per Mckenzie
:)
And Hayes was really good last season. I'm not really sure what happened in Winnipeg, he was dropped down to the 4th line in the playoffs despite decent production (16 points in 26 games). But sometimes it's just tough to adjust in the short time after deadline deals. I wouldn't hold that small sample against him.
Point is, Philly definitely overpaid but not by that much IMO. I am a bit surprised to see him back with AV though. Never got the sense that those two had a great relationship.
What happened? Im in work meetings all morning
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PJ?
What happened? Im in work meetings all morning
You posted at 2am that you were drinking.
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PJ?
What happened? Im in work meetings all morning
You posted at 2am that you were drinking.
LOL,. rough morning. Yeah, I had a men's league hockey game at 8:50, got home after 1am. burn off 1000 calories at hockey and drink 2000 after.
This is exactly the type of move the Devils should be making. I would do it for a prospect or a 2nd round pick this year or next to eat that deal. Or the Devils could acquire Colin Miller from Vegas and take on Clarkson's contract also to lower the asking price.
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PJ?
What happened? Im in work meetings all morning
You posted at 2am that you were drinking.
LOL,. rough morning. Yeah, I had a men's league hockey game at 8:50, got home after 1am. burn off 1000 calories at hockey and drink 2000 after.
I used to do the same thing years ago. Hangovers get worse with age.
What position do you play?
I want nothing to do with him
Jesse Puljujrvi requested a trade.
EDM wants an established 3rd line player in return.
Probably similar status to Yakupov IMO at this point, without the top pick pedigree.
He's been a bust, but he's 21, so someone will give him a shot.
Jesse Puljujrvi requested a trade.
EDM wants an established 3rd line player in return.
Probably similar status to Yakupov IMO at this point, without the top pick pedigree.
He's been a bust, but he's 21, so someone will give him a shot.
NJ makes a lot of sense. They could offer Miles Wood in exchange for him.
I have to get back into it. I'm 38 and I played all through high school and into college but I haven't played in about 10 years. I was a goalie exclusively until college then I played some D and forward.
This is exactly the type of move the Devils should be making. I would do it for a prospect or a 2nd round pick this year or next to eat that deal. Or the Devils could acquire Colin Miller from Vegas and take on Clarkson's contract also to lower the asking price.
You can count me in on this for NYR as well.
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Because Im old. My team is all in our 40s. Last night (its like this every summer) we played a team of 19/20 year olds. Its fun but humbling
I have to get back into it. I'm 38 and I played all through high school and into college but I haven't played in about 10 years. I was a goalie exclusively until college then I played some D and forward.
I have a goal to play until I'm 50. It's actually more fun now than high school and college.
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I have a goal to play until I'm 50. It's actually more fun now than high school and college.
Still having a blast at 47 in my sunday night league.
Definitely feel it into Wednesday's now, but It's just too damn fun.
I'll probably get the call on Friday. Maybe 4th round.
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Because Im old. My team is all in our 40s. Last night (its like this every summer) we played a team of 19/20 year olds. Its fun but humbling
I have to get back into it. I'm 38 and I played all through high school and into college but I haven't played in about 10 years. I was a goalie exclusively until college then I played some D and forward.
I have a goal to play until I'm 50. It's actually more fun now than high school and college.
I might have to switch back to forward because playing goalie puts alot of stress on the knees and back. I do miss it and many of my high school teammates still play on a men's league team and they're always asking me if I want to join.
As you know it's just tough to find time with work, a wife, and two young kids.
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He has 1 year and $5.25 million remaining and they are desperate for cap room.
This is exactly the type of move the Devils should be making. I would do it for a prospect or a 2nd round pick this year or next to eat that deal. Or the Devils could acquire Colin Miller from Vegas and take on Clarkson's contract also to lower the asking price.
You can count me in on this for NYR as well.
I think the Rangers will be looking to add a big name like Panarin so they can't afford to take on Clarkson's contract if they want to make a significant signing in free agency.
There have been unsubstantiated rumors today that they are very interested. It makes a lot of sense assuming the price is right.
So funny, the rink I play in has 8 sheets of ice, but we still play at 10pm. The latest we have games is 10:50 and someone always has a mysterious "back issue" for those games. We call it 10-50-itis.
a lot of guys on my team have a goal to play at least one season with their sons, which is cool, I don't have a son, and no way I'd expose my daughter to the shit show that is beer league hockey.
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God I'd love the Devs to jump on that. Makes too much sense though so it will probably never happen
There have been unsubstantiated rumors today that they are very interested. It makes a lot of sense assuming the price is right.
Subban is constantly on the block, if I had to pick a favorite player in the league (as a person and player) it's him or Carey Price.
Seeing Carey and that kids whose mom died on stage at the NHL awards last night was pretty awesome.
Subban is constantly on the block, if I had to pick a favorite player in the league (as a person and player) it's him or Carey Price.
Seeing Carey and that kids whose mom died on stage at the NHL awards last night was pretty awesome.
Price is one of my favorite players after seeing all he did for that kid at such a difficult time in his life.
As for Subban, the Devils acquiring him would all but guarantee that the Hall re-signs with them. I just can't imagine the package that it would take to acquire him. I'm assuming it would start with Butcher/Severson, Vatanen, Coleman, Zacha, and probably a 1st and another pick.
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Subban is constantly on the block, if I had to pick a favorite player in the league (as a person and player) it's him or Carey Price.
Seeing Carey and that kids whose mom died on stage at the NHL awards last night was pretty awesome.
Price is one of my favorite players after seeing all he did for that kid at such a difficult time in his life.
As for Subban, the Devils acquiring him would all but guarantee that the Hall re-signs with them. I just can't imagine the package that it would take to acquire him. I'm assuming it would start with Butcher/Severson, Vatanen, Coleman, Zacha, and probably a 1st and another pick.
Jay that package is way heavy. At 9 mill per the market is limited for him. Will take our #2's and a prospect or 2. Maybe Severson or Zacha. Dont see Coleman getting dealt
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Subban is constantly on the block, if I had to pick a favorite player in the league (as a person and player) it's him or Carey Price.
Seeing Carey and that kids whose mom died on stage at the NHL awards last night was pretty awesome.
Price is one of my favorite players after seeing all he did for that kid at such a difficult time in his life.
As for Subban, the Devils acquiring him would all but guarantee that the Hall re-signs with them. I just can't imagine the package that it would take to acquire him. I'm assuming it would start with Butcher/Severson, Vatanen, Coleman, Zacha, and probably a 1st and another pick.
Jay that package is way heavy. At 9 mill per the market is limited for him. Will take our #2's and a prospect or 2. Maybe Severson or Zacha. Dont see Coleman getting dealt
You're probably right I have no idea what his market value is. I have no issue dealing Vatanen as he is a FA at season's end and I don't see them bringing him back. I would prefer to keep Severson as he did improve last year and he is locked up on a solid deal.
I don't like giving up Butcher but if it gets us Subban I would be willing to do it with Ty Smith and Jeremy Davies signing their ELC's. Is Vatanen, Nashville's 2nd back, a 2nd in 2020, and Michael McLeod enough?
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Subban is constantly on the block, if I had to pick a favorite player in the league (as a person and player) it's him or Carey Price.
Seeing Carey and that kids whose mom died on stage at the NHL awards last night was pretty awesome.
Price is one of my favorite players after seeing all he did for that kid at such a difficult time in his life.
As for Subban, the Devils acquiring him would all but guarantee that the Hall re-signs with them. I just can't imagine the package that it would take to acquire him. I'm assuming it would start with Butcher/Severson, Vatanen, Coleman, Zacha, and probably a 1st and another pick.
Jay that package is way heavy. At 9 mill per the market is limited for him. Will take our #2's and a prospect or 2. Maybe Severson or Zacha. Dont see Coleman getting dealt
You're probably right I have no idea what his market value is. I have no issue dealing Vatanen as he is a FA at season's end and I don't see them bringing him back. I would prefer to keep Severson as he did improve last year and he is locked up on a solid deal.
I don't like giving up Butcher but if it gets us Subban I would be willing to do it with Ty Smith and Jeremy Davies signing their ELC's. Is Vatanen, Nashville's 2nd back, a 2nd in 2020, and Michael McLeod enough?
Doubt McLeod is of much interest seeing as his star has fallen. Vatanen would be an interesting piece there because it still gives them nice cap relief and a nice top 4 dman to help them continue to contend. The match just makes too much sense. The Devs have a gaping hole at #1 D and have the assets and tons of cap space to get it done. As a cherry on the sundae his deal has 3 years left and ends right around the time we'd have to pay up for Nico/Hughes
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God I'd love the Devs to jump on that. Makes too much sense though so it will probably never happen
There have been unsubstantiated rumors today that they are very interested. It makes a lot of sense assuming the price is right.
Subban is constantly on the block, if I had to pick a favorite player in the league (as a person and player) it's him or Carey Price.
Seeing Carey and that kids whose mom died on stage at the NHL awards last night was pretty awesome.
Subban has an amazing philanthropic profile. Reminds me of Jean Bliveau -- who was one-of-a-kind
Doubt McLeod is of much interest seeing as his star has fallen. Vatanen would be an interesting piece there because it still gives them nice cap relief and a nice top 4 dman to help them continue to contend. The match just makes too much sense. The Devs have a gaping hole at #1 D and have the assets and tons of cap space to get it done. As a cherry on the sundae his deal has 3 years left and ends right around the time we'd have to pay up for Nico/Hughes
That's true I just thought that with the pick and Vatanen they might be willing to roll the dice on McLeod who has a lot of speed and at worst he is a solid 4th line center. I'd be willing to give up more since Subban has 3 years left on his deal and he will be 33 when it expires. His performance should match his play over that period.
The Devils are in need of a legitimate 1st line right side defenseman. Severson is better suited as a second pairing defender as if Vatanen if he remained. The Devils are solid on the left side with Butcher, Ty Smith, Andy Greene, Jeremy Davies, and Mirco Mueller.
Butcher and Subban as the first pairing is exciting especially with two more offensive defensemen in Smith and Severson behind him.
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From your lips .....
Apparently Gorton has a sense of what it would take to sign him and that will be a major determinant. As well what they could get for him (perhaps including one of the 3 D vets they would like to unload).
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(including Jack Gorniak, PJCAS)!
Haven't seen whether any team has been allowed to deal with Kreider on an extension.
2020 is supposed to be an awesome draft. Perhaps a 2020 first rounder will be the way to go.
Hope there is some drama (good drama).
Hope there is some drama (good drama).
The drama starts at pick 3 for the Hawks.
1.NJ - Hughes
2.NYR - Kakko
3.CHI - Zargas, Turcotte, Bryam or Dach?
Maybe they surprise and pick Caufield.
But I meant with trades, etc. too.
A lot of rumors swirling.
Never mind. Fake account.
TSN, twitter, sportsnet
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what is your favourite site for rumours? TSN?
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Thanks don't do much twitter, but whom do yo follow on this?
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what is your favourite site for rumours? TSN?
TSN, twitter, sportsnet
Thanks don't do much twitter, but whom do yo follow on this?
I follow a ton of hockey accoubts.
the national guys (Friedman, McKenzie, Dreger, LeBrun, Pete Jensen, Gulitti, @NHL) and then local Canadiens guys (Potvin, Kramer, Engels, Arpon Basu, etc.)
other teams beat writers like Joe Haggerty and Kevin Paul duPont (though he's annoying), etc.
and then scouts.
Hughes wire to wire.
Like to see Caufield on here.
The Point
@ThePointHockey
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Kaako is the clear top winger in this class having progressed into a consensus #2 pick. Podkolzin had a strong WJC tournament but fell in May due to lack of production at the U18s. Caulfield/Brink/Leason/Tomasino have all risen over the back half of the season. #NHLDraft
Most people predict Finnish D Heinola at 15. I think that's early for him.
I'd rather they took Cam York if they go D.
LOCAL interest: Trevor Zegras, went to my daughter's HS (Fox Lane) as frosh before transferring to Avon Old Farms in CT. He's likely to go in the 1st Round, maybe.
NTDP U-17: 20 goals 59 points in 56 games
NTDP U-18: 26 goals 78 points
Fun night coming up all around.
My only issue with Zegras, and it's a little bit with Caufield too, is Zegras played a little bit with Hughes and Caufield played all year alongside Hughes.
Did Hughes lift them up?
I don't think so, but it's worth looking into.
Matthew Boldy too.
I don't think Turcotte played on a line with Hughes, but I think they played on the PP together, but being a C, I have less question on Turcotte.
Mostly it was Boldy, Hughes and Caufield, and Zegras/Boldy with some swapping back and forth to the Turcotte line.
Dan Kingerski
@TheDanKingerski
The Kris Letang chatter is getting heavy. Heres one team which made a serious inquiry:
Broberg. Should go top 10.
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who excelled in the recent IIHF Worlds in Slovakia, can't recall his name. Positionally sound, tough, good skater
Broberg. Should go top 10.
Sorry, you said Swiss. Broberg is Swedish.
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and talk of you all farts (I'm waaayyy more farty) strapping them up again and going out for the late night games has me drooling....with envy...been a long time
and talk of you all farts (I'm waaayyy more farty) strapping them up again and going out for the late night games has me drooling....with envy...been a long time
The only Swiss draft eligible D that was at the worlds is Janis Jrme Moser. I don't remember him standing out, but I also don't remember watching any Switzerland games. He's ranked 101 by Central Scouting, he'll be drafted.
The Devils need help at RW and Caufield is an exciting player to develop. He's also familiar with Hughes and showed nice chemistry with him.
The Devils made a similar move a few years ago when they took Michael McLeod in round 1 then took his teammate Bastian in round 2.
I'm not crying you're crying.
You can't go wrong with Hughes or Kakko. Kakko is the more NHL ready player but Hughes has a huge upside as well. Hughes can play in the NHL right away but he needs alot of time in the weight room.
Hischier was similar in terms of body type when he came out. Hughes is the star the Devils need to attract players in the future. Hughes and Hischier ould be one of the best 1-2 center duo's in the NHL for the next decade.
Who knows and it doesn't need to happen at the draft though teams generally get more active around now, it can happen any time before 7/1.
Letang, Mrazek, Dougie Hamilton (and every Hurricanes D), Subban, Ehlers, Kreider, Backes (hate to see someone bail the Bruins out on that contract)
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IMO this negates one of the advantages Kakko holds over Hughes at this time as long as you believe in Hughes work ethic which doesn't appear to have any doubters.
"Rangers going to have a guy named Kakko go number two on a stage in front of thousands of people and you dont have to think thats funny but me and my eight-year-old will be over here laughing until our faces hurt"
@MurphysLaw74
Just heard an interesting trade rumor via an NHL source that would involve #NYR goalie Henrik Lundqvist. Trying to get more info now, but not sure I can imagine the King anywhere else but in New York! Wow!
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Harman Dayal
@harmandayal2
3h3 hours ago
After compiling tons of data and expected pick values, my latest for The Athletic analyzes every NHL team's drafting since 2014 as well as every prospect pool.
https://theathletic.com/1033678/2019/06/21/behind-the-numbers-an-analysis-of-every-nhl-teams-recent-draft-history/
Not sure if this will show up, it's on the Athletic site (but I think twitter too):
Rangers blurb, they're not even on here.
Here is the key:
All told, hopefully, the prospect pool data provides some added context for some of the results above. Among contending teams, Boston and Tampa Bay are irrefutably the kings of drafting during this span with the Predators as another competitive team thats not too far behind. The Stars, Red Wings and Rangers have had major issues although, in New Yorks case, theyve turned things around in recent times. Edmontons drafting leaves much to be desired beyond the Draisaitl pick, while similar sentiment can be expressed for the Sabres whove added little value outside of the first and second overall picks theyve owned in this time frame. Rebuilding teams that have drafted well include the Toronto Maple Leafs, Vancouver Canucks, Winnipeg Jets and Philadelphia Flyers.
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Ryan Hana
@RyanHanaWWP
52s53 seconds ago
Discussing the rumors surrounding Detroit's pick, and @BradKrysko joked that Yzerman just gave random names to some of his staff to find the leaker and fire them.
If Yzerman is #GoT seasons 1-4 Tyrion, give Detroit the Cup now.
If he's seasons 7-8 Tyrion...God help us all.
Adrian Dater
Verified account @adater
10s10 seconds ago
More buzz Im hearing about Barrie and Canucks. Tanev name has bubbled up. More rumblings as I hear them @ColHockeyNow
Unless the Devils surprise everyone and take Kakko 1st. Then Hughes is the greatest player of all time.
It's possible that a team takes his contract in exchange for a draft pick. There were rumors last week that the Devils had interest in trading for him in exchange for a draft pick or prospect. This would create much needed cap room for them to sign Point to an extension.
Darren Dreger
Verified account @DarrenDreger
Toronto Maple Leafs bracing for activity. Telling teams they will listen on Kapanen and Kadri. Would need a D back in a Kapanen trade and a centre back for Kadri. Strong sense Connor Brown could go as well.
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Pierre LeBrun
Verified account @PierreVLeBrun
Jun 20
Pierre LeBrun Retweeted Darren Dreger
Im told Carolina and Toronto recently had a chat about a deal involving Kapanen and Brown going to the Canes in a package involving Pesce. But I dont think Carolina wants to move Pesce at this point. That could change of course ...
Prior to that Gordie Clarks 1st round selections were Skjei(#28), JT Miller(#15), McIlrath(#10- his only significant 'miss') and Chris Kreider(#19) dating back through the 2009 draft.
As I've said before Gordie Clark has done a good job for the organization as head scout given that he made only 4 mid to late Round 1st round selections in eight years prior to 2017 and 9 total selections through two rounds in the same time frame.
Sather was the problem not Clark.
Though, he now says CHI is leaning KIrby Dach at #3
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Toronto Maple Leafs bracing for activity. Telling teams they will listen on Kapanen and Kadri. Would need a D back in a Kapanen trade and a centre back for Kadri. Strong sense Connor Brown could go as well.
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I want no part of Kadri. Kapanen on the other hand would fill a big hole for NJ. Vatanen and John Quenneville for Kapanen?
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Toronto Maple Leafs bracing for activity. Telling teams they will listen on Kapanen and Kadri. Would need a D back in a Kapanen trade and a centre back for Kadri. Strong sense Connor Brown could go as well.
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I want no part of Kadri. Kapanen on the other hand would fill a big hole for NJ. Vatanen and John Quenneville for Kapanen?
I like Kapanen but Leafs should be more desperate than that. They need to sign Marner.
I don't think his linemates carry him like whoever plays wing with Crosby gets carried, but you play with Auston Matthews you will get an uplift in production.
I like Kapanen though and very little of his points came on the PP.
I think just one goal.
I think he's a 60-point player in the right situation, who is not a defensive liability.
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what do you think about Kapanen? Is he going to be a solid player like he was last year or was that just a product of playing with all those stars? Could his career be similar to Palmieri where he just needed a change of scenery and a bigger role to produce.
I don't think his linemates carry him like whoever plays wing with Crosby gets carried, but you play with Auston Matthews you will get an uplift in production.
I like Kapanen though and very little of his points came on the PP.
I think just one goal.
I think he's a 60-point player in the right situation, who is not a defensive liability.
Sounds like a Devils type then. It wouldn't surprise me if Shero pulls a trade for him tonight. It's unlikely the Devils use all three of their 2nd round picks.
Shero traded a 2nd for Palmieri and a 2nd and 3rd for Marcus Johnansson. Kapanen is very similar to those two in terms of draft position and production.
but I went to the draft when it was in Hartford, CT (1994) and it was maybe the most boring sporting event I have ever been to and second place (a pre-season NFL game) is not even remotely close.
but I went to the draft when it was in Hartford, CT (1994) and it was maybe the most boring sporting event I have ever been to and second place (a pre-season NFL game) is not even remotely close.
With how long they take between picks, I cant see how going to the draft is fun, unless your team has a top 10 pick
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it might be different now. Maybe more fan friendly.
but I went to the draft when it was in Hartford, CT (1994) and it was maybe the most boring sporting event I have ever been to and second place (a pre-season NFL game) is not even remotely close.
With how long they take between picks, I cant see how going to the draft is fun, unless your team has a top 10 pick
It was free then, I guess in an effort to keep the Whalers, but holy shit it was boring. No idea if there is a fee now, or if it's more fan friendly.
they had the Stanley Cup there, so that was cool to see the cup up close, but otherwise I don't advise attending it to anyone.
Adam Herman
Verified account @AdamZHerman
3m3 minutes ago
Vesey & BUF still look like "A Thing." Doesn't mean a deal is happening or even close, but that campfire is still burning.
Alex Nylander has been linked, and makes plenty of sense. Buffalo doesn't have a 2nd-round pick this year. Would they move 31st overall? Wouldn't bet on it.
I agree, it's not a spectator event IMO, but that place looks packed.
Sedins were always boring stars.
They have shown a bunch of Hughes highlights leading up to the pick.
Room for Improvement: None
sounds good lol
they looked like the exact same sizes, the Devils was outside. they maybe even had more people.
Huh? Give it a rest. I'll never argue the fan bases are anywhere close in size but from those angles they seemed pretty similiar.
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they looked like the exact same sizes, the Devils was outside. they maybe even had more people.
Are you serious? The Devils party looked like it had 200 people. The whole half of MSG was PACKED.
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Huh? Give it a rest. I'll never argue the fan bases are anywhere close in size but from those angles they seemed pretty similiar.
Ranger fan here and I agree and don't get trying to one up the other teams fan base, it's dumb. The Devils and Rangers are the winners of the draft tonight with these 2 phenomenal players.
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they looked like the exact same sizes, the Devils was outside. they maybe even had more people.
Are you serious? The Devils party looked like it had 200 people. The whole half of MSG was PACKED.
After they announced the Hughes pick they showed the Devils party reaction and it looked like the same size crowds.
I don't care anyway.
If you believe the Hockey Writers, the Rangers really like Dylan Cozens
Expect Turcotte.
Love this kid, maybe my favorite player in the draft.
Love this kid, maybe my favorite player in the draft.
He's no Kaapo Kakko
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announced to Kings.
Love this kid, maybe my favorite player in the draft.
He's no Kaapo Kakko
I didn't say best player, I said my favorite.
I like the gritty players, someone who has skill, but can play physical - like a Forsberg (Peter).
It's an homage to the scouts. I mean the scouts travel across North America and across Europe to find players. It's more of an international sport than either basketball or football.
I just love the idea of having a big, mean, nasty German on your team. Haha
every year I feel like they're building a good young squad.
and every year they suck.
I read a few teams may look to get back into the 1st.
but like last year I don't know that player trades will have to happen today.
Pacioretty wasn't traded until September last year.
See my Buffalo comment.
I guess Caufield, Boldy, York and Knight may fall out of top 10. Well I expect they could go in the next couple picks (two of them)
CT kid - mentioned above.
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Huh? Give it a rest. I'll never argue the fan bases are anywhere close in size but from those angles they seemed pretty similiar.
When your team hasn't won a Cup in a quarter of a century, I guess some people need to grasp onto something, like draft party crowd sizes. You know, the important stuff.
2 years left in KHL
you asked, you shall receive.
Coyotes on the clock.
11 for 14 and 45.
If he doesn't go at 12 or 13 I'd love the Habs to trade up for him.
If the Habs can get Boldy, Caufield or York at 15 that would be awesome.
I like Peyton Krebs too, but man an Achilles tear is scary to me.
Millis, MA kid - one town over from me.
highest goalie pick in a while.
this goalie is legit.
Caufield one pick from the habs. York will be there too.
I'd be cool with Newhook, etc.
even look for a trade partner to move back a couple picks and get a 2nd or 3rd.
David Pagnotta
@TheFourthPeriod
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In addition to Leddy & Hickey, Islanders forward Josh Ho-Sang is very much in play.
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Damn, would have loved him on the Habs.
3 Americans in a row.
Krebs too.
Kaliyev, Newhook, a few other really good players here.
Habs take Caufield!!!!
What a night for USA hockey. 8 of the top 15 from the national program. Wow.
to that young core.
holy shit.
to that young core.
holy shit.
My beer league teammates are gonna be insufferable out here
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add Byram and Newhook.
to that young core.
holy shit.
My beer league teammates are gonna be insufferable out here
Just be glad they lost the lottery. If they got Hughes or Kakko it would be a lot worse.
I love watching MacKinnon play, glad I don't live there so I have to hate him.
Dual citizen, born in Syracuse, but selected Canadian citizenship.
Puck moving D, they have a solid group of young D.
I still prefer the taller players, but no denying talent.
and I feel better about the size when a team like the Bruins has 4 sub-6-foot defenseman
Not from me scouting him, but just basically all the mocks had him going bottom of the 1st or falling to the 2nd.
but I guess what's the difference between a guy you like a 30 vs 19. this isn't the NFL.
I think he'll be an NHL player, but in a few years.
Bobby Orr Brink playing for the Bruins is sort of poetic, but I'd hate it.
I'm a big Granato fan too.
and Robertson.
Albin Grewe (RW/LC, Sweden, Djurgardens J20)
Ilya Nikolayev (LC, Russia, Loko Yaroslavl MHL)
Robert Mastrosimone (LC, USA, Chicago USHL)
Antti Saarela (LC/LW, Finland, Lukko Liiga)
Shane Pinto (RW, USA, Tri-City USHL)
Maxim Cajkovic (RW/LW, Slovakia, Saint John QMJHL)
Ryder Donovan (RC/RW, USA, Duluth-East U.S. High School)
So it's basically the same as the NFL draft then.
I do, what's your point?
I wonder how many here have actually seen a single Duke football game.
There are many that openly admit that they do not watch college football. It doesn't prevent them from sharing their opinion. I am not going to knock them for that because it's a message board and it's fun to discuss.
against each other in international tournaments or even on their juniors or regular teams.
Almost no one drafted yesterday plays high school hockey (in fact maybe not one player) so your ignorance is on MAJOR display here. So "stay in your lane bro" because this one is not it.
Junior hockey is on multiple channels, professional hockey (KHL (Russia), SM Liga (Finland), SEL (Swedish Elite League), and even the juniors leagues like OHL, WHL, USHL, CHL, QMJHL, etc), are all streamable or even in many cases like the post-season tourneys and the Memorial cup are on TV live. And the USNDTP plays an NCAA schedule they are on TV often, and 9 of the 31 kids taken came from that program.
If you said later rounds sure. There could be high school players drafted and I feel like I know my stuff, but even I only know about into the mid-late second round out of these kids.
but you are away off base with your comment about last night at least.
Doesn't mean people will be right about who they want their team to take last night, there are busts in every sports draft and that is with the people getting paid to make the picks doing it, us fans are bound to be wrong often, but you are way off base with your post.
And also, it's kind of douchy to come on a thread like this for the sole purpose of being a douche.
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I remember when the Rangers drafted Jessiman(oops) I tried to find out about him and there just wasn't much available in terms of video. I believe that was in 2002.
I still want NJ to trade for Subban but I would prefer to keep the 34th pick to grab either Lavoie, Brink, Kaliyev, or Vlasic.
I still want NJ to trade for Subban but I would prefer to keep the 34th pick to grab either Lavoie, Brink, Kaliyev, or Vlasic.
If Subban is dealt and its not to the Devs I'm gonna start getting on Shero just a bit. The Trouba thing I totally get. As a guy just 1 year away from UFA he was clearly in more of a position to call the shots and wanted to go to the NYR. With Subban its just about what we're giving up, and why can't we beat a Toronto package especially since Nashville wouldn't have to eat a dollar with us?
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and Subban doesn't need to be traded today.
like I mentioned above. Pacioretty was traded in September last year, and the Habs got picks in this draft (and players).
So, if it doesn't happen today it doesn't mean it's not going to happen.
He's still a god in Montreal, I'd love to see him back there, but there are rumors every time his name comes up he's going to play with his buddy Tavares. Or Stamkos. I think the three of them group playing together and against each other.
but reality is I don't see TOR or TBL having the right mix of prospects and space to acquire him.
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I still want NJ to trade for Subban but I would prefer to keep the 34th pick to grab either Lavoie, Brink, Kaliyev, or Vlasic.
If Subban is dealt and its not to the Devs I'm gonna start getting on Shero just a bit. The Trouba thing I totally get. As a guy just 1 year away from UFA he was clearly in more of a position to call the shots and wanted to go to the NYR. With Subban its just about what we're giving up, and why can't we beat a Toronto package especially since Nashville wouldn't have to eat a dollar with us?
I would be happy with Subban but i would rather try to grab Kapanen. I'd even be willing to take on a contract just not Zaitsev. Marleau would be ideal but I think the leafs want to move Kadri more.
Kapanen would be a very similar acquisition to Palmieri and Johansson. Obviously Palmieri worked out much better but Kapanen would fill a hole on the second line. I'd offer Wood, the Bruins 2nd, Mirco Mueller, and John Quenneville for Kapanen and Marleau.
Hall Hischier Palmieri
Kapanen Hughes Bratt
Boqvist Zajac McLeod
Coleman Zacha Anderson
I like him. He had some injuries. Every time I watched them it was usually to see someone else like dahlin but I noticed him. Only complaint I heard is hed have been available later.
The Isles have done an excellent job drafting recently so I would give them the benefit of the doubt.
Top 10-15 prospect if he didnt have health issues. The bigger question is did we really need a gamble on a skilled RW when we are so thin at C in the system and you had a safer player in Tomasino. Personally I think the bust rate is so high in NHL that you stockpile the best talent and if you end up with a surplus in one area then trade from your depth for a comparable player at a weaker position. Talent will always be in demand in a trade.
Most of us do similar things in both drafts, I imagine -- maybe see a couple of guys on TV a couple of times and curate all the opinions of those who see them more often watch video, talk to scouts etc.
Albin Grewe (RW/LC, Sweden, Djurgardens J20)
Ilya Nikolayev (LC, Russia, Loko Yaroslavl MHL)
Robert Mastrosimone (LC, USA, Chicago USHL)
Antti Saarela (LC/LW, Finland, Lukko Liiga)
Shane Pinto (RW, USA, Tri-City USHL)
Maxim Cajkovic (RW/LW, Slovakia, Saint John QMJHL)
Ryder Donovan (RC/RW, USA, Duluth-East U.S. High School)
Nathan Legare, RW, Baie-Comeau-QMJHL =
Boom Boom Geoffrion?
- booth on divining why Kaliyev dropping, think that was context, and Pavel Brendl selection came up, another big oops
- and Kaliyev, as choice after choice went by, his mug so sour, thinking there was a read of his head and will that may have dropped him, rank speculation
- contrast between selection aftermaths of Hughes and Kakko, where the former was engaged, effusive, articulate (what an attractive family, two bros to go) with Catherine, whereas NHL Network (apparently) didn't even try to bring KK to a live interview: makes me think language may have been an issue and, more broadly, assimilation to North American and NYC will be a challenge, can't ignore how challenges for a teenager who has lived his hockey life in a comfort zone; also, the jocularity between Hughes and the Devils' brass and what to me seemed a bit of stiffness, maybe awkwardness is a better word, between Rangers' brass and KK
- speaking of the interviews, I thought Catherine (with a K?) was very, very good: articulate, asked candid questions, but sensitive to the selection and where it came. What is her last name, please?
- speaking of the run on d-men, was anyone else bothered by the fact that 90% of the highlights shown were of their goal scoring prowess and zippo on their play in their own end. The one exception was of the choice the primary comp to whom was beloved McDonough, was it Bowen or York?
- loved Seider's reaction to his 'surprise' selection at 6: whooaahhh, didn't see that coming, lol. And, pj, my bad, it was Seider I was thinking of, obviously not Swiss.
- smh at all the talent from Sweden, took the Fins to knock them out last month
- as the draft wound down toward the later picks and highlights were shown of the Cs and Ws, I said, wow, impressive, and then the consensus from the booth, 'a year or two away from the NHL, yup', a certainty. Lesson: gotta take the league, i.e., level of play into account big time in forming opinions
- congrats to Habs and pj on Caulfield, bit bummed as he waited: I said to wife, just wait, they're going to talk about Henri, the Pocket Rocket (doh, but she was impressed (: ): And very classy reaction by him and his mom when Catherine (K?) brought up the NTDP kids selected ahead of him, no animosity, they love each other, all for each other, and then Hughes going to the stage to congratulate Caulfield, a special group.
- and even though this will end on a sour note, you gotta, or I gotta, love the Bruins for all the young, home grown (MA and RI even) talent at their core
Team: HV71 Jr. (Sweden Jr.)
Ranking: 37 | Nationality: SWE
Age: 18 | Ht: 6-1 | Wt: 193 | Shot: L
Stats: 21 GP, 7 G, 13 A
Scouting report: Good size and hockey sense have helped Holmstrom lift his draft stock throughout the season. He has a very good shot that he can get off from anywhere. The puck really zips off his stick. His puck skills are OK, and pretty average in terms of one-on-one stick skills, but he gets himself into good positions and helps create space for his linemates. Holmstrom has good physical strength which helps him protect the puck well, and he has a little power element to his game. But does he have enough skill to create on his own? -- Peters
Team fit: Holmstrom has been projected all over the place during the draft process. The Isles have really bolstered their defensive pipeline, so Lou Lamoriello & Co. taking a forward here was not much of a surprise. Holmstrom has been a hard guy on whom to get a read, but he finished the season strong and the Isles won't need him for a few more years anyway. -- Peters
Where Holmstrom is most likely to play in 2019-20: SHL
An offensively skilled player who competes hard. Holmstrm is a good skater and stands out with really good hands and impressive puckhandling skills. Quite shifty and a player that can do the unexpected offensively. Has a good wrister and his two-way game is underrated. Great character and team player.
He is trusted to be on the ice in all situations and he is just as good on the box play as he is on the powerplay, Hockeyprospect.com 2019
He has elite acceleration and top speed and he can handle the puck and stickhandle his way through traffic while maintaining high speed, Future Considerations 2019
With the puck on his stick, he can be dazzling, whether deking past defenders, or fooling them with passes from the behind the net, McKeen's Hockey 2019
A deft skater with some explosiveness to his game.. has remarkable passing ability and likes to set up teammates from below the goal line, Draftin Europe 2018
I wish the Devils made this trade. The Canes acquire a 2020 1st and a 7th and Marleau for a 6th in 2020. The 1st is only top 10 protected. If it's a top 10 they get a 2021 1st.
-Everyone thought this may signal PK to the Leafs
-But it sounds like PK was just dealt to the Devs!!!
Even if it's the 34th that's a steal. Nashville is not retaining any salary which helped lower the return. Now we see if Hall is true to his word. He said he wanted the Devils to add talent before he will talk extension.
They added Hughes, Subban plus signed their top two prospects to ELC's D Ty Smith and C Jesper Boqvist
Ty Smith Damon Severson
Andy Greene Sami Vatanen
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Even if it's the 34th that's a steal. Nashville is not retaining any salary which helped lower the return. Now we see if Hall is true to his word. He said he wanted the Devils to add talent before he will talk extension.
They added Hughes, Subban plus signed their top two prospects to ELC's D Ty Smith and C Jesper Boqvist
yep even if its #34 I'd do it 100 times out of 100. They are now in a commanding position with Hall. Id give him till the mid/end of July to let the market shake out to see if he'll talk extension #'s. Otherwise I'd trade him
yep even if its #34 I'd do it 100 times out of 100. They are now in a commanding position with Hall. Id give him till the mid/end of July to let the market shake out to see if he'll talk extension #'s. Otherwise I'd trade him
I couldn't agree more. The last thing they want to do is wait until the deadline so that they only get a late 1st and and 2nd or 3rd for Hall. That's assuming he is healthy at the deadline. If he isn't then they risk losing him for nothing.
Correct, If he doesn't want to be here then this is Hughes and Hischier's team. Build around them and Palmieri, Ty Smith, Damon Severson, Jesper Boqvist, Will Butcher, Mackenzie Blackwood, Blake Coleman, and Pavel Zacha.
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I watch "foreign" hockey, whatever that means and for curiosity sake - why are you on the thread if you no nothing about the players or have any belief in what takes the boards posters have on the players and other insight?
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what channel carries high school hockey?
I watch "foreign" hockey, whatever that means and for curiosity sake - why are you on the thread if you no nothing about the players or have any belief in what takes the boards posters have on the players and other insight?
Exactly great point. Not to mention if anyone had been on hockey threads all year they'd realize how much PJ, Jay etc...know and follow these amateur guys.
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what channel carries high school hockey?
I watch "foreign" hockey, whatever that means and for curiosity sake - why are you on the thread if you no nothing about the players or have any belief in what takes the boards posters have on the players and other insight?
Exactly great point. Not to mention if anyone had been on hockey threads all year they'd realize how much PJ, Jay etc...know and follow these amateur guys.
I am no expert, I know 1/1000th of what pj knows. I do follow these tournaments though. Over the years I've invested more time in following young prospects as I enjoy watching prospects grow almost as much as watching the professional teams. Perhaps that's from the Braves and Devils sucking recently so the only hope I had was from the prospects.
Somebody drafted the walrus? Lol
Picks 48 and 59 this round.
He's a monster. On the other end of the spectrum is U.S. Dustin Wolf. I'm a fan of his but he is only 6'0 160lbs. He is projected to go in rounds 5-7 due to his lack of size but he is a very good goaltender. The Devils system is in desperate need of more goalie prospects. I hope they roll the dice on Wolf especially if he is still on the board in round 6.
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Make second round picks yet?
Picks 48 and 59 this round.
*49, 58
Should be up within the next 3-7 minutes
Devils pick 55 and 61
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The Rangers take defenseman Matthew Robertson. Not a sexy pick, but a robust one. Good shutdown defenseman (actually) who moves the puck out of his zone quite well. Not much offense but enough to push him through pro hockey.
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Matthew Robertson finally gets called by the New York Rangers at No. 49. That'll be a pick to keep an eye on three years down the road. #NHLDraft
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Rangers at 48 take big defenseman Matthew Roberston. Mobile and clean. Lefty.
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I wanted Robertson as the 20th pick because this kid is the perfect compliment to Fox. Has a cannon of a shot, got some snarl to his game and has excellent vision on the ice. Doesn't make mistakes in coverage
Yeah, but the Devils' draft party crowd was small. So why get excited about this?
Damn that was Nicholas. MAtthew he had at 35
I wanted Nils Hoglander
The defenceman likes to rush the puck when he sees an opening. He has very solid balance, and it is very hard for an opposing forechecker to knock him off possession when he decides to take the puck out of the zone. He handles back-pressure well with strong edges, and protects the puck by dropping one shoulder and using his reach.
He is capable of some great skating moves to shake off opponents. Watch him switch the direction of his skates rapidly as he retrieves the puck, confusing forecheckers to escape.
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I dunno -- I'd like some size and guys that are good in their zone, but apparently not the way the game is going.
Daniil Misyul 6'3 176 lbs
He is an excellent skater and a gifted puck rusher , McKeen's Hockey 2019
He cleans the crease effectively to let his goalie see the puck and doesnt let anyone jump on rebounds , Future Considerations 2019
He is a smooth skater, especially for his size. He can show some speed and quickness, but he is also quite agile. His fluid pivots help him keep up with opposing attackers and break their plays while defending off the rush. He also uses his stick effectively in those situations to cut off passing lanes, angle attackers to the boards, and take the puck away.
What he currently lacks in defensive awareness something that should improve thorough his career he makes up for with strong man-to-man defence. He closes in on his coverage, takes away attempts in front of the net by neutralizing opposing sticks, and is generally quite physical despite his relatively slight build. He competes hard and doesnt let other players walk over him, even when he was defending against much older players in his stint in the KHL.
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The puck flies off his blade. He doesnt need much of a windeup to pick his spot. He also fires deceptively at times...He has quick hands and can elevate And some limitations: needed to be set up for many of his chances this season...wasnt creatively moving the defence around and creating shooting or passing lanes...his skating holds him back...he lacks the explosiveness or the speed necessary to make his stickhanding moves that much more effective. In the end, St. Louis predicts that he will not hear his name called until at least the third round, but does have potential to become a top six player one day if the chips fall the right way.
https://www.habseyesontheprize.com/nhl-entry-draft-picks-2019/2019/5/12/18537717/graeme-clark-2019-nhl-draft-prospect-profile-video-highlights-stats-scouting-report-analysis
at 82 they take another Defenseman Michael Vukojevic 6'3 212 lbs
Vukojevic is best known for his defensive game. He is solid in his own zone, with the size to play a physical game and clear the front of the net. He reads the play well and is rarely out of position. Vukojevic uses his long stick to cut down passing lanes, especially while killing penalties. His skating ability allows him to play a solid two-way game, especially his strong lateral mobility. He has a decent slap shot but must work on getting it through traffic and on the net. He also shows a good first pass out of the zone. Vukojevic improved offensively this past season, putting up 29 points in 68
games.https://lastwordonhockey.com/2019/06/20/2019-nhl-draft-scouting-reports-prospects-81-90/
I dunno -- I'd like some size and guys that are good in their zone, but apparently not the way the game is going.
Oops, looks like the other Robertson is one!
Yes I do too.
Bill Placzek of Draft Site had this to say about Misyul:
Tall lean attacking defenseman who is fluid on his pins, very patience and fearless in his carries down low. Fits in the definition of a new age attacker who picks his spots and activates into the mix, looking at the best option while carrying strong with puck, causing coverage problems while keeps moving before passing or shooting. Displays a hard point shot, solid set-ups and smart offensive vision and activation. I am sure there are negatives we can cobble from his defensive end work, but is difficult to not be excited at the the prospects playmaking and scoring abilities.
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wow I didn't realize we get Lindsey Vonn at the Rock too! Damn I'd have even been ok throwing in another 2nd rounder for that...
Lot of production with the USNTDP this season, didn't really play with Hughes or Caufield.
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Lot of production with the USNTDP this season, didn't really play with Hughes or Caufield.
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I like the pick as well. Should I make a Devils discussion thread?
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Patrick Moynihan at 158 might be my favorite #NJDevils pick of the day.
Lot of production with the USNTDP this season, didn't really play with Hughes or Caufield.
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I like the pick as well. Should I make a Devils discussion thread?
Yep go for it. The crazy thing is they probably aren't finished yet. its only June 22. I doubt they'll be in on the top tier UFA's, but I could see them signing a guy from that next tier. Especially a top 6 fwd. They probably don't sign MOJO, and Eberle obviously re-upped but that type of guy.
Yep go for it. The crazy thing is they probably aren't finished yet. its only June 22. I doubt they'll be in on the top tier UFA's, but I could see them signing a guy from that next tier. Especially a top 6 fwd. They probably don't sign MOJO, and Eberle obviously re-upped but that type of guy.
I'll get it up a little later. I read that after the Subban trade the Devils are still approximately $5 million UNDER the cap floor. They will be players in free agency IMO. Adding Subban to a healthy Hall and Hughes will make the Devils an attractive destination.
Must be a goal keeper thing (where I played too)
JP thanks for the Rangers' deep dives and steering me straight here yesterday afternoon
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I apologize. You were right and I was wrong. It was that one angle. There were tons of Devils fans at the Draft party.
I was wrong
NJ just trumped Rangers on Trouba who a) isnt as good and b) isnt yet signed ... impressive (damnit)
NJ just trumped Rangers on Trouba who a) isnt as good and b) isnt yet signed ... impressive (damnit)
Agree with your take. As an isles fan, I'm not happy with either of these moves. Def would have liked either on our team
If Victor Mete is Weber's D pair partner again, MTL will be in the lottery again.
I like him, but he's a PP puck mover, maybe.
At first blush I thought we picked the wrong Robertson but I've been wanting a strong D-first D man that can keep the goal area enemy-free for a while. Maybe he's that guy.
At first blush I thought we picked the wrong Robertson but I've been wanting a strong D-first D man that can keep the goal area enemy-free for a while. Maybe he's that guy.
I liked the draft. They need an NHL-ready top 4 D. Very few of them outside the top part of the 1st round come from the draft though.
There were more Americans drafted than that, like Kaliyev, who played Canadian Juniors, but that is pretty amazing.
There were more Americans drafted than that, like Kaliyev, who played Canadian Juniors, but that is pretty amazing.
I hope this is a sign of things to come. The more big name American's in the NHL the more popular it will get IMO. I hate to admit it but I actually prefer to see the Rangers have a good season because it's better for the league. Obviously I don't want them to be better than Devils.
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with 17 players drafted (every single eligible player drafted).
There were more Americans drafted than that, like Kaliyev, who played Canadian Juniors, but that is pretty amazing.
I hope this is a sign of things to come. The more big name American's in the NHL the more popular it will get IMO. I hate to admit it but I actually prefer to see the Rangers have a good season because it's better for the league. Obviously I don't want them to be better than Devils.
I believe 2014 was the first time Canadians did not make up more than 50% of the league.
Canada was 44% last year, US almost 30%, it's steadily climbing - as are Europeans countries like Sweden, Finland, and Russia.
And if he gets selected for main training camp he might go.
If a player goes to the main training camp (not dev camp) they lose their eligibility. He was drafted in the juniors, so like Nick Suzuki he could go to main camp get cut and play juniors a year or two.
I still think he goes to Wisco at least a year, but it was interesting to hear him say that. Confident kid.
Not only did I see it when the Bruins drafted John Beecher in the first round, but I went to school and played ball with his Dad.
Not only did I see it when the Bruins drafted John Beecher in the first round, but I went to school and played ball with his Dad.
Crazy when you think some of the recent top picks that were US born and where they came from-Clayton Keller, Missouri, Hughes- Florida, Couturier and Tkachuck -Arizona, Auston Mathews, California. Devs have 2 guys from Texas. Hockey has really branched of to the sun belt.
I don't think any of the Hughes kids even put on a pair of skates in Florida. They were in Boston when they started skating but grew up in Toronto for a lot of their life.
The Tkachuk's and Keller grew up in St. Louis, which is maybe surprisingly or not, a decent hockey town for youth hockey.
Couturier grew up in Canada.
Matthews is IMO the anomaly, I believe he was born in CA, but moved to AZ early and played there until the USNDTP.
that is pretty amazing (and rare IMO).
80% of Americans in the NHL were born (not even grew up, born) in 9 states: MI, MN, MA, NY, IL, WI, NJ, CT and CA
It is expanding, and it's a good thing, just wanted to highlight born is maybe misleading.
Brian Leetch was born in TX, but moved to CT when he was 3 months old (for example)
And if he gets selected for main training camp he might go.
If a player goes to the main training camp (not dev camp) they lose their eligibility. He was drafted in the juniors, so like Nick Suzuki he could go to main camp get cut and play juniors a year or two.
I still think he goes to Wisco at least a year, but it was interesting to hear him say that. Confident kid.
I suspect he is eager to show up the team's that passed him up asap
Selfishly I hope he becomes a Badger
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I read that Caufield thinks he can make the team.
And if he gets selected for main training camp he might go.
If a player goes to the main training camp (not dev camp) they lose their eligibility. He was drafted in the juniors, so like Nick Suzuki he could go to main camp get cut and play juniors a year or two.
I still think he goes to Wisco at least a year, but it was interesting to hear him say that. Confident kid.
I suspect he is eager to show up the team's that passed him up asap
Selfishly I hope he becomes a Badger
His brother is on the team (Wisconsin) as will be Turcotte and Lindmark from his team this year (USNDTP U18).
I think he goes at least a year.
It would be cool to see Caufield (5' 7") with Sean Dhooghe (5' 3") on a line.
And let's not forget (for us Ranger fans) D'Andre Miller!
I will be scouring the net for Badger games LOL
I had season tickets for eight years in the glory days of Badger Bob, RIP
And let's not forget (for us Ranger fans) D'Andre Miller!
I will be scouring the net for Badger games LOL
I had season tickets for eight years in the glory days of Badger Bob, RIP
K'Andre
he's fun to watch.
When you are almost a PPG player as a college freshman on the blue line, you have offensive game.
still has more forward than defensive tendencies which is great in the offensive zone - he loves to join the rush, but I saw him lose his guy a few times in the D zone. He'll get it fixed and be a great NHL player.
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he can also put the puck in the net.
And let's not forget (for us Ranger fans) D'Andre Miller!
I will be scouring the net for Badger games LOL
I had season tickets for eight years in the glory days of Badger Bob, RIP
K'Andre
he's fun to watch.
When you are almost a PPG player as a college freshman on the blue line, you have offensive game.
still has more forward than defensive tendencies which is great in the offensive zone - he loves to join the rush, but I saw him lose his guy a few times in the D zone. He'll get it fixed and be a great NHL player.
I'm biased, but I think he'll get some good coaching at UW
It will be interesting to see what Davidson does with Hartford. Mike Eves just got tabbed to run Columbus' top farm team. I wonder if Davidson was involved in that? Eaves would have been an interesting choice.
LOL.
I'm sure he's a great coach.
Living in New England I'm surrounded by great college coaches. Providence, Umass, BU, BC, Quinnipiac, Northeastern, Harvard, Yale, even UNH and more.
but yeah, Granato is great I'm sure. Plus I like Bob Motzko a lot too and he left St. Cloud State for Min - I think they'll be good.
Hockey should expand their post-season tournament. 16 teams in a win or go-home tourney is so hard.
17 current Badgers are at NHL development camps this week.
Don't know how that compares with other teams, but it seems pretty impressive to me.
17 current Badgers are at NHL development camps this week.
Don't know how that compares with other teams, but it seems pretty impressive to me.
BU had 8 players taken in this draft. WISC had 7.
They probably have similar # of players in dev camp I'd imagine.
Hockey East had 27 players selected, by far the most for any NCAA conference.
"Quick thought: Caufield to Canadiens at No. 15 ... absolute steal. Tony Granato at Wisconsin is going to turn Cole into an even stronger, better player. And in case you forgot, he scored 72 goals last season."
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"Quick thought: Caufield to Canadiens at No. 15 ... absolute steal. Tony Granato at Wisconsin is going to turn Cole into an even stronger, better player. And in case you forgot, he scored 72 goals last season."
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they showed Brendan Gallagher meet Caufield at the draft (Gallagher is a Vancouver native), anyway, not many players can make Gallagher look tall.
Great clip though, Caufield was star struck and his smile never left his face. Who knows how his NHL career winds up but as a Hab, an american, and a good kid, I'll be rooting for him.
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The Hurricanes traded defenseman Calvin de Haan and forward prospect Aleksi Saarela to the Blackhawks on Monday for goalie Anton Forsberg and defenseman Gustav Forsling.
And I like Charbonneau, but more worthy players than him.
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Hearing the Hockey Hall of Fame will induct Hayley Wickenheiser, Vaclav Nedomansky, Sergei Zubov and Guy Carbonneau.
1:56 PM - 25 Jun 2019
Nice career, played on the edge and crossed the line occasionally, got the most out of his ability IMO.
Also stood next to Colton Orr who could end my life in 3 seconds.
Rangers drafted at least five Hall of Famers this weekend.
Solid weekend. pj sucks.
Also stood next to Colton Orr who could end my life in 3 seconds.
Rangers drafted at least five Hall of Famers this weekend.
Solid weekend. pj sucks.
that sounds like a fun tournament. most of my tournaments these dats you can't have any pro experience, of any kind, they screen hockeydb to see if you do.
One of my teammates. at 43, got a contract with the Delaware Federals of the FHL - just for a two-game stint against the Cape Cod Blue Fins
Which is awesome. He can now claim he's been a pro hockey player, but now he can't play tournaments with us (at least those that screen for pros). Idiot.
but I'd do it in a heartbeat. He didn't even look THAT out of place. He did go to Union though, so he's not some hack.
Not unexpected, but savvy move by the Caps.
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Comparing team C Weber to Cap dump Subban in goals for vs goals against at even strength
2016-17
Weber - 54 gf 35 ga
Subban - 52 gf 57 ga
2018-19
Weber - 54 gf 39 ga
Subban - 54 gf 52 ga
This is why Weber is who every GM wants
#Canadiens #subbanistas #hatersgonnahate
details forthcoming.
Love this for PIT.
No idea why Arizona would do this.
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PO Joseph and Galchenyuk to Pittsburgh for Kessel and a 4th round pick.
7:49 PM - 29 Jun 2019
Kessel costs $3M more per year on the cap.
PO Joseph was a 1st round pick in 2017, solid D prospect.
Matthew Joseph's of the Lightning's brother.
Pens win this trade by a lot IMO, unless they are eating salary. Kessel is owed $18M on the cap, Galchenyuk is under contract for this year only for $5.8M.
Just my disdain for Kessel I guess. I don't see him changing anything in AZ, but at the same time I see nothing changing in PIT, and I think that speaks more about Galchenyuk than it does about Kessel.
We will find out.
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Deal is official: James Reimer traded from Panthers to Hurricanes for Scott Darling, 6th. And Florida is buying out Darling.
Same here but I'm also a little nervous, rumors are the Canadiens will be doing something big. and they didn't buy anyone out (which I supported since no buyout made sense), so that means either trade or one of the 5 or 6 big name FA's.
I've heard Anders Lee, I prefer Duchene, but what they really need is D, I just don't want to pay Tyler Myers $7M+ per season b/c he's the tallest midget in FA among the available D.
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Veteran goalie Mike Smith has chosen the #Oilers. Hes more or less trading places with Cam Talbot, who as we hinted on Monday, is heading to the #Flames.
More on what that means for Lehner, Mrazek, and the rest of the goalie market on @SportsCentre at 6pm ET.
4:32 PM - 30 Jun 2019
I like it. I liked Shaw more than I thought, but he's absolutely expendable.
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The Canadiens have acquired Chicagos 2nd round pick and 7th round pick in 2020, and the Blackhawks 3rd round pick in 2021, in return for forward Andrew Shaw and the Canadiens 7th round pick in 2021.
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Just my disdain for Kessel I guess. I don't see him changing anything in AZ, but at the same time I see nothing changing in PIT, and I think that speaks more about Galchenyuk than it does about Kessel.
We will find out.
You were the one person I wanted to ask about this trade, since you know Galchenyuk.
From what I read, most feel he is like Kessel (lazy defensively, picky about where he wants to play, as in being a center) without the finishing ability or productivity.
From the sounds of it, sounds like PIT got good value given their situation, but that Galchenyuk either will do great and cost too much to re-sign OR the Pens will have his cap space the following season.
What do you think about Galchenyuk?
He should have and would have been the Conn Smyth winner in 2016, except the Toronto/Canadian media had a grudge.
That said, his act wore thin, didn't want to play on 3rd line, only with Malkin and his bad defense rubbed off on Malkin.
Also, some feel he is losing his scoring ability and will not age well.
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loves the trade for the Coyotes, not so much for the Pens.
Just my disdain for Kessel I guess. I don't see him changing anything in AZ, but at the same time I see nothing changing in PIT, and I think that speaks more about Galchenyuk than it does about Kessel.
We will find out.
You were the one person I wanted to ask about this trade, since you know Galchenyuk.
From what I read, most feel he is like Kessel (lazy defensively, picky about where he wants to play, as in being a center) without the finishing ability or productivity.
From the sounds of it, sounds like PIT got good value given their situation, but that Galchenyuk either will do great and cost too much to re-sign OR the Pens will have his cap space the following season.
What do you think about Galchenyuk?
I love Galchenyuk, and he's absolutely a finisher, it's his asset, wicked wrist shot, sick one-timer, he should be the power play shooter.
But yeah, he's been bad defensively, and slow to learn, so coaches like Julien and Therrien buried him.
Very eager to see what Sullivan does for his game.
I don't think he's a C, so I'd play him next to Crosby and slide Guentzel to the Malkin line, Alex may be the most skilled winger to play alongside Crosby if they do that.
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That would make no sense.
I don't see why Panarin would split with Bob, and why he would chose NYI, when he can be with coach Q tax free in FLA.
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thinks speculation is looking like Panarin to NYI and Bobo to FLA. Would be fucking awesome if true. Please happen!
That would make no sense.
I don't see why Panarin would split with Bob, and why he would chose NYI, when he can be with coach Q tax free in FLA.
Because even with Bob and Panarin, Florida is not a playoff team, Islanders are. Not to mention Barry Trotz is no slouch of a Head Coach and New York is more media exposure than Florida.
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thinks speculation is looking like Panarin to NYI and Bobo to FLA. Would be fucking awesome if true. Please happen!
That would make no sense.
I don't see why Panarin would split with Bob, and why he would chose NYI, when he can be with coach Q tax free in FLA.
Because even with Bob and Panarin, Florida is not a playoff team, Islanders are. Not to mention Barry Trotz is no slouch of a Head Coach and New York is more media exposure than Florida.
Whats the breakdown in attendance for both?
even without Panarin.
Barkov is on the cusp of stardom, if he's not there yet.
Ekblad is a little weak for a #1 overall, but he's a solid top pair D (and is still just 23) along with Mattheson, Yandle, etc.
Trochek, Huberdeau, Dadanov..they have some good players.
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As @Bob_Stauffer mentioned, Im told all signs point to Brett Connolly signing a four-year deal with the Panthers on Monday
that takes balls. two 1sts, a 2nd and a 3rd.
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From what I hear, these will be confirmed tomorrow Duchene-Nashville, Bobrovski-Florida and Pavelski-Dallas. Habs will present an offer sheet! De ce que jentends, ce sera confirm demain, Duchene-Nashville, Bobrovski-Floride et Pavelski-Dallas. Le CH prsentera une offre hostile
7:26 PM - 30 Jun 2019
yeah Bob to Florida is as close as we have right now to a mortal lock.
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Looks like Joe Pavelski will sign a three-year contract with Dallas tomorrow. Sounds like the AAV will be in the neighborhood of $7M.
8:24 PM - 30 Jun 2019
Yep just saw that. He wants 5 years. Probably too steap for the Devs. I expect them to hone in on Lee if the Isles sign Panarin and Varlomov
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Yep just saw that. He wants 5 years. Probably too steap for the Devs. I expect them to hone in on Lee if the Isles sign Panarin and Varlomov
It's a 5 year deal for Zuccarello with an AAV of $6 million. That's too long for me.
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They can apparently shift the compensation to a year later if theyre missing a pick, or so its been rumored.
Tyler Kelley (@DocKelley41) June 30, 2019
but would you give that up for:
Aho?
Point?
Marner?
Rantanen?
I say yes to all 4 (under 10.5). They're all 23 or younger and already stars.
Matthew Tkachuk?
Timo Meier?
Brock Boeser?
Charlie McAvoy?
more...
Laine? I think he's eligible.
not sure. but I'd think hard about it.
Habs and possibly Wild in on Gardner.
two solid players, but will get overpaid.
Hope Bergevin sets a line and won't cross it.
but would you give that up for:
Aho?
Point?
Marner?
Rantanen?
I say yes to all 4 (under 10.5). They're all 23 or younger and already stars.
Matthew Tkachuk?
Timo Meier?
Brock Boeser?
Charlie McAvoy?
more...
Laine? I think he's eligible.
not sure. but I'd think hard about it.
I agree with you if it's under 10.5 for all 4 of those players without thinking twice. I would do it for Laine also.
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Sources just told be. NYR dropped out. Panarin will be an islander tomorrow. #NYR #CBJ #Isles
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Will suck if the Rangers end up getting him
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The Blue Jackets are still trying to convince Artemi Panarin to return to Columbus. Still hoping theres a chance.
Looks like a 3 team race.
CBJ. NYI. Florida.
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Hearing AAV could be $13M. Dont know if its the exact number but the biddings are high.
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Confirming Duchene to #Preds $8m for 7 ... hearing #CBJ offered Duchene more than $8 mill/year. That one, however, was always going to be an uphill fight.
Duchene is apparently building a house in Nashville & talked openly about liking that city/area a lot.
Stars moving up to West Conference favorite by winning July.
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Report: Perry to sign 1-year deal with Stars https://thesco.re/2Xj8U28
I wonder how they're going to respond to the playoff debacle.