If the Pelicans gave the Knicks their top 3 protected first round pick in next year's draft and the Knicks don't feel that strong about Barrett, I would swap.
another team looking to shed salary with their first
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Oklahoma City has increased its efforts this afternoon to shed salary along with the No. 21 pick en route to dodging luxury tax, league sources say. Steven Adams, Andre Roberson, Dennis Schroeder all very available at the moment.
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Great defender, but among the biggest offensive black holes on O. Like playing 4-5
Not advocating for Roberson the basketball player but Roberson's contract + the 21st pick.
Fair enough. I'm not that aware of contract situations. In that sense from those 3, I'd rather Schroeder, but again it would depend on cost for trade & contract
Still I'd bet there's other better "contract + pick" situations than Roberson, even on other teams
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Vanderbilt guard Darius Garland had his workout with the Knicks today, but New York remains locked on selecting Dukes RJ Barrett with the NBA Drafts third overall pick on Thursday, league sources tell ESPN.
Beck said the Knicks "made overtures" to AD for 2020 free agency
knowing they didn't have the ammo to get him via trade. I think it's a lock he stays in LA, but it does point towards the Knicks saving some cap space for next summer. Probably pursue KD and some one year deals or expirings via trade.
Mavs the favorites to sign Horford, says Kevin O'Connor of the Ringer.
I wouldnt be so quick to nix the idea. If they strike out in free agency, getting a draft pick in exchange for taking his contract would be fine. He doesnt have to stay on the roster - just release him.
RE: Mavs the favorites to sign Horford, says Kevin O'Connor of the Ringer.
If LBJ does not let AD be the man in LA, it is not a slam dunk he stays.
I just like to hear the Knicks seem to be keeping themselives flexible, will be very interesting to see what KD does: I think FA looks like this right now:
If LBJ does not let AD be the man in LA, it is not a slam dunk he stays.
I just like to hear the Knicks seem to be keeping themselives flexible, will be very interesting to see what KD does: I think FA looks like this right now:
I don't think NYK is out of it for Kyrie. He seems pretty set on a NY team, and LAL doesn't have enough for a max right now. There were some rumblings even today that NJ doesn't even want Kyrie if he doesn't come with someone else.
If LBJ does not let AD be the man in LA, it is not a slam dunk he stays.
I just like to hear the Knicks seem to be keeping themselives flexible, will be very interesting to see what KD does: I think FA looks like this right now:
I don't think NYK is out of it for Kyrie. He seems pretty set on a NY team, and LAL doesn't have enough for a max right now. There were some rumblings even today that NJ doesn't even want Kyrie if he doesn't come with someone else.
Jon - you might be right, I have just not heard much around Kyrie and the Knicks. He is a strange guy.
RE: RE: Mavs the favorites to sign Horford, says Kevin O'Connor of the Ringer.
The Knicks medical staff is not helping them right now. Scottie Pippen killed them on ESPN the other day and all the Porzingis stuff did not help either.
The Knicks medical staff is not helping them right now. Scottie Pippen killed them on ESPN the other day and all the Porzingis stuff did not help either.
Guys drop like flies - basketball doesn't have a rep of being a physical game, but it takes its toll. I'm not doubting your info, but I have a hard time pinning anything on the Knicks training staff.
The Knicks medical staff is not helping them right now. Scottie Pippen killed them on ESPN the other day and all the Porzingis stuff did not help either.
This seems like one of those Knick narratives that's likely got no substance to it.
The Knicks medical staff is not helping them right now. Scottie Pippen killed them on ESPN the other day and all the Porzingis stuff did not help either.
Did Pippen also mention how it was all kps plan and he never planned on playing this year?
but I can understand why people think he should be the third pick overall. The upside is there, but I think the most likely scenario for him is that he is a solid starter in the league, not an all star, which is fine. I have seen most RJ's college games and I fear he can be stopped at the next level if his outside game does not dramatically improve. I think Garland is intriguing but I have not seen enough of him to make a solid comparison. However, and maybe this is a pet peeve of mine, but I hate when people say we should draft Barrett third because he was supposed to be the number one pick before last year's draft. Well, you know what, we had a year of watching him play and two players surpassed him; if he stayed one more year, in next year's draft should a team pick him 6th because he would have been the third pick this year? The argument makes no sense at all.
What do you think of Zion's outside shot holding him back? To my eye Zion's outside game is significantly worse than RJ's.
Zion is the biggest risk reward guy I have ever seen. Zion's outside game was putrid (although it did come on a bit after he came back from his knee and he hit some three pointers). Look,if Zion can physically dominate like he did in college in the NBA, he is going to be a superstar. If he can't, he might be a bust. I tend to think he will physically dominate, but anyone who really thinks they know for sure are full of shite.
Couldnt agree more. I lean towards yes, Zion will dominate in the pros but no one knows for sure. My theory is to never turn your back on a player that does whatever the fuck he wants out there. Id always draft that guy and go down swinging. Zion is too special to pass up. Guys like him usually figure everything out as they go. Too good to fail.
NOLA, Im told, is assembling assets in all out effort to leapfrog Knicks into second slot in order to snare RJ Barrett. Obviously, Pels are offering Grizz No 4 pick as part payment. No pity parties planned. NY would land Morant or Garland. Memphis would pluck point that drops... Link - ( New Window )
That Barrett will not end up in the knicks, someone will trade ahead or Memphis will take him. Whenever this alleged guarantees are out there in the public it never seems to workout for the knicks. I understand many people prefer morant anyway, but I am not as high on him as others. I could actually see the knicks taking garland over morant. Hopefully they would trade down to #4 in that scenario.
There's a gaping hole in their lineup. It would not make any sense to trade out when they could just take Morant. Its who they were reported to want in the first place.
There's a gaping hole in their lineup. It would not make any sense to trade out when they could just take Morant. Its who they were reported to want in the first place.
True, but this is a 33 win team that has now traded away its two best players. Theyre in rebuild mode and have gaping holes everywhere. Position shouldnt even be a consideration for them, just getting the best talent should. Even on talent Morant would seem like the pick, but maybe theyre worried about his knee and want a surer thing. Well see.
1. Planted the seed w/ AD that we'll be in on 2020 big time
2. "Thanks for the call. No to CP3" <click>
Many old Knick regimes would not have done either correctly! However obvious. Still just a small positive for now...but more in the W column for this franchise fwiw
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The Knicks medical staff is not helping them right now. Scottie Pippen killed them on ESPN the other day and all the Porzingis stuff did not help either.
Their medical "staff" is HSS, which serves most of the NYC area teams.
If he's referring to their training staff, they have one of the more respected groups in the NBA. Roger Hinds has been a trainer in the NBA for 22 years. And he also has experience in S&C:
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Hinds served as strength and conditioning coach for the gold medal-winning U.S. Olympic Team at the 1996 Atlanta Games. From 2001-2004, he served as president of the National Basketball Athletic Trainers Association Foundation. Roger currently serves as liaison between the Trainers Association and the NATA. He was honored to receive the Bill Chisolm Ethnic Diversity Award from the NATA at the 2015 annual meeting.
He's a great shooter. There really is a lot to like there. I think it's worth a call to the Pelicans.
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Oklahoma City has increased its efforts this afternoon to shed salary along with the No. 21 pick en route to dodging luxury tax, league sources say. Steven Adams, Andre Roberson, Dennis Schroeder all very available at the moment.
Not advocating for Roberson the basketball player but Roberson's contract + the 21st pick.
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Great defender, but among the biggest offensive black holes on O. Like playing 4-5
Not advocating for Roberson the basketball player but Roberson's contract + the 21st pick.
Fair enough. I'm not that aware of contract situations. In that sense from those 3, I'd rather Schroeder, but again it would depend on cost for trade & contract
Still I'd bet there's other better "contract + pick" situations than Roberson, even on other teams
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Vanderbilt guard Darius Garland had his workout with the Knicks today, but New York remains locked on selecting Dukes RJ Barrett with the NBA Drafts third overall pick on Thursday, league sources tell ESPN.
have to appease kp
I just like to hear the Knicks seem to be keeping themselives flexible, will be very interesting to see what KD does: I think FA looks like this right now:
KD: GS/NYK/Brooklyn
Kyrie: LAL/Brooklyn
Kawhi: LAC/Toronto
Klay: GS
Horford: Dallas/Brooklyn/LAL
Butler: Philly/LAL
Middleton: Bucks
I just like to hear the Knicks seem to be keeping themselives flexible, will be very interesting to see what KD does: I think FA looks like this right now:
KD: GS/NYK/Brooklyn
Kyrie: LAL/Brooklyn
Kawhi: LAC/Toronto
Klay: GS
Horford: Dallas/Brooklyn/LAL
Butler: Philly/LAL
Middleton: Bucks
I don't think NYK is out of it for Kyrie. He seems pretty set on a NY team, and LAL doesn't have enough for a max right now. There were some rumblings even today that NJ doesn't even want Kyrie if he doesn't come with someone else.
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If LBJ does not let AD be the man in LA, it is not a slam dunk he stays.
I just like to hear the Knicks seem to be keeping themselives flexible, will be very interesting to see what KD does: I think FA looks like this right now:
KD: GS/NYK/Brooklyn
Kyrie: LAL/Brooklyn
Kawhi: LAC/Toronto
Klay: GS
Horford: Dallas/Brooklyn/LAL
Butler: Philly/LAL
Middleton: Bucks
I don't think NYK is out of it for Kyrie. He seems pretty set on a NY team, and LAL doesn't have enough for a max right now. There were some rumblings even today that NJ doesn't even want Kyrie if he doesn't come with someone else.
Jon - you might be right, I have just not heard much around Kyrie and the Knicks. He is a strange guy.
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Should be a fun few weeks.
have to appease kp
The Post today brought up the idea of the Nets signing Porzingis to an offer sheet
Dont see how that would possibly occur though.
Nets are looking like they might be edging closer to running it back this year.
Again, I think both Brooklyn and KP have wanted each other for a while. Its unclear how that would happen. Right now, theres no path.
What did he reference?
This seems like one of those Knick narratives that's likely got no substance to it.
Did Pippen also mention how it was all kps plan and he never planned on playing this year?
That would be a good haul for the Pelicans and would bring Garland and RJ to NY.
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but I can understand why people think he should be the third pick overall. The upside is there, but I think the most likely scenario for him is that he is a solid starter in the league, not an all star, which is fine. I have seen most RJ's college games and I fear he can be stopped at the next level if his outside game does not dramatically improve. I think Garland is intriguing but I have not seen enough of him to make a solid comparison. However, and maybe this is a pet peeve of mine, but I hate when people say we should draft Barrett third because he was supposed to be the number one pick before last year's draft. Well, you know what, we had a year of watching him play and two players surpassed him; if he stayed one more year, in next year's draft should a team pick him 6th because he would have been the third pick this year? The argument makes no sense at all.
What do you think of Zion's outside shot holding him back? To my eye Zion's outside game is significantly worse than RJ's.
Zion is the biggest risk reward guy I have ever seen. Zion's outside game was putrid (although it did come on a bit after he came back from his knee and he hit some three pointers). Look,if Zion can physically dominate like he did in college in the NBA, he is going to be a superstar. If he can't, he might be a bust. I tend to think he will physically dominate, but anyone who really thinks they know for sure are full of shite.
Couldnt agree more. I lean towards yes, Zion will dominate in the pros but no one knows for sure. My theory is to never turn your back on a player that does whatever the fuck he wants out there. Id always draft that guy and go down swinging. Zion is too special to pass up. Guys like him usually figure everything out as they go. Too good to fail.
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True, but this is a 33 win team that has now traded away its two best players. Theyre in rebuild mode and have gaping holes everywhere. Position shouldnt even be a consideration for them, just getting the best talent should. Even on talent Morant would seem like the pick, but maybe theyre worried about his knee and want a surer thing. Well see.
2. "Thanks for the call. No to CP3" <click>
Many old Knick regimes would not have done either correctly! However obvious. Still just a small positive for now...but more in the W column for this franchise fwiw
Pete44 : 6/19/2019 5:38 pm : link : reply
The Knicks medical staff is not helping them right now. Scottie Pippen killed them on ESPN the other day and all the Porzingis stuff did not help either.
Their medical "staff" is HSS, which serves most of the NYC area teams.
If he's referring to their training staff, they have one of the more respected groups in the NBA. Roger Hinds has been a trainer in the NBA for 22 years. And he also has experience in S&C:
So happy The Knicks told them to go pound sand