If the Knicks decided to take him at #3 I'd be fine with it. Barrett long term has just as many questions to answer about being a pro as Garland does. I will be honest while I like Barrett a lot my one concern are his shooting percentages, from the floor, beyond the stripe and at the foul line.
Noone knows exactly what he is except he's athletically gifted and has a sweet stroke. Of course he needs coaching and development. To attempt to pigeonhole him at this stage of his game as 'a shoot first PG' is premature.
It's also not smart to turn Barrett into something he isn't when evaluating him, like a great shooter right now.
I'll be kool with whatever decision this FO makes and I haven't said that about a Knicks braintrust in a long time.
I was talking more about trading the pick than working out a guy. That's due diligence stuff. It's nice to actually have a top 3 pick in a draft known as a three player draft.
I personally think and have for a while it's a four player Draft
He's really skinny and not really explosive. What he's valued for is sharp shooting and a good playmaking point guard. Defense probably will be a struggle for him due to his lack of size and strength.
I know it's a small sample but he shot the lights out.
Also if we do draft Ja or Garland. Can we move DSJ and/or Frank for a late teens first?
How many successful 6'2 175 2 guards are there in the league currently?
So I am guessing in your opinion that's a no?
How many successful QB under 6' ? Doesn't mean there are not unicorns out there
Everything I have read and heard he has Kyrie type skills. Not suggesting to draft him since most don't have a good read on him only playing 5 college games.
Just looking for where he fits
not a great pure athlete. He's a scoring 1 if he's going to be a plus NBA player. He can't guard 2's at that size. QB is a one-way position. Not comparable
One that I don't think the Knicks can afford unless they get a godfather-type offer to move down. He could be Malik Monk 2.0 or Damian Lillard 2.0 but it's hard to tell from a 4 game sample size, 3 of which were against Winthrop, Alcorn St, and Liberty.
they dont have the salary and cap room to make it work
Paul's cap # is $38.5M next year. If the Lakers and Pelicans wait until 7/30 to finalize the AD deal I believe they could make it work with Paul if AD waives his trade kicker but I could be off.
they dont have the salary and cap room to make it work
Paul's cap # is $38.5M next year. If the Lakers and Pelicans wait until 7/30 to finalize the AD deal I believe they could make it work with Paul if AD waives his trade kicker but I could be off.
Reports are the deal close July 6th cutting out the 3rd Max deal. They only have 23 million available
The Knicks may get themselves a potential All-Star on Thursday just by waiting for Memphis to select.
According to Ryan Blake, draft consultant to the NBA, the Knicks cant go wrong with the third pick in the draft at Barclays Center. At No. 2, Memphis will take either Murray State point guard Ja Morant as many believe or Duke swingman RJ Barrett, and the Knicks will be in good shape.
Blake called it a tough one to choose between the two college studs, but added, If I was starting a team from scratch, Id give a little edge to Ja. He has a little bit more proven weaponry.
However, Blake is also in love with Barrett.
I think hes going to be a future All-Star, Blake said. We look at where we were a year ago 99 percent of the decision-makers said RJ will definitely be the No. 1 pick. Both guys are high-guarantee types from background, exposure, personality, ability. Link - ( New Window )
The only products Id have him endorse would be toilet paper and anti-depressants. Cant believe Phil had Mitchell in for a workout and decided to pick someone who doesnt jump too high and get triple doubles.
The only products Id have him endorse would be toilet paper and anti-depressants. Cant believe Phil had Mitchell in for a workout and decided to pick someone who doesnt jump too high and get triple doubles.
Mitchell didn't fit Phils bullshit triangle offense. Mitchell wanted to be a Knick too
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The New York Knicks are extremely open to trading Frank Ntilikina for a late first-rounder or second-rounder, per @NYPost_Berman
Knicks are 'extremely open' to be given 'anything for nothing'
We've been patient on Frank, and will pull for him for as long as he's a Knick. But he's done almost nothing. I have a huge love for D, but rarely saw him be THAT exceptional in spite of flashes - neither as help or on the ball - on D, much less his uselessness on O. Even the things he could do well on O, he'd take himself out being timid or scared at least in his decision-making on court
Almost reminds me of Jared Jeffries, not exactly the same and JJ was better (i guess), but was touted the team's best defender by the worst D coach on the worst D team. Sure he tried and was likeable, but was awful at NBA bball
Horford is on the hunt for a championship, and with the C's failing to land AD... doesn't look like that's in the cards with Boston.
Where might Horford end up? He'd be an amazing add for a team like Houston... although I haven't studied if they could afford him. Al might be willing to take a discount for a title chance, though.
What happened to the Celts is that Kyrie just went off the deep end & torpedoed their season/immediate future. If he planned on staying in Boston, you sure as hell can bet AD is a Celtic right now, not a Laker. Also, they did get screwed with that Rose Rule. They would have gotten AD this winter.
I'm not crying for the Celts, but I think they'll still be good next year. A top 3 or 4 team in the East? Probably not, but I don't think they're going to fall off that much. Losing Kyrie will eliminate a lot of the drama surrounding them. Tatum, Brown, Hayward Scary Terry, Smart, etc. are all good pieces. It'll be interesting to see what happens with Horford. He's invaluable.
I know it's a small sample but he shot the lights out.
Also if we do draft Ja or Garland. Can we move DSJ and/or Frank for a late teens first?
How many successful 6'2 175 2 guards are there in the league currently?
Trae Young, Lou Williams, kemba Walker, DeAaron Fox, Mike Conley, Darren collison, DJ Augustin... there are a bunch of successful undersized score first PG in the league. That was a bad example, try that again.
I know it's a small sample but he shot the lights out.
Also if we do draft Ja or Garland. Can we move DSJ and/or Frank for a late teens first?
How many successful 6'2 175 2 guards are there in the league currently?
Trae Young, Lou Williams, kemba Walker, DeAaron Fox, Mike Conley, Darren collison, DJ Augustin... there are a bunch of successful undersized score first PG in the league. That was a bad example, try that again.
you may want to try reading his post again before making yourself look like a fool...
I think at this point their best option is to sign Durant and sit him out next year. Hope DSJ, Knox, Mitch, Frank, Dotson make huge strides and most importantly hope Barrett really flashes as a rookie. Its time for Fizdale to earn that contract with these young guys. And if that Illyasova trade is available, Id do it for the 30th pick.
If they start going down the Julius Randle and Bobby Portis route, this season just became more of a disaster.
RE: Frank was one of those rare picks that everyone hated
type deals are going to have to wait. The knicks still must want to at least keep their option for two max guys open.
I think it was mentioned a couple places (cant remember exactly where) that the knicks interest in Randle would be on a short deal. I think they also mentioned Dlo in the same article, but there is zero chance you are getting him on a short term deal. TBH i dont think you are getting randle on a short term deal either. That said i like the thinking of not locking yourself into a 4/80 mill type deal for a Randle.
that i agree that Frank is a bust and i doubt he is anything more then a 15 minute a game role player. That said former lottery picks going into their third year who play plus defense do have some value. And do we really consider a second round pick value? I have seen most knick fans saying they would be floored if we got a first, but they would take a second (or a ham sandwhich). But sure im guessing one guy somewhere said they could get a mid first so all knick fans think he has great value.
Here are some scenarios of interest to me after what has transpired so far this offseason.
Draft:
Sit tight at #3 and take Barrett or Morant.
If New Orleans called about #3, I would listen for #4 and some of their newly acquired Lakers future draft assets and take Garland at #4, but they would really need to sweeten the pot to make it worthwhile.
Trade Frank for a 2nd rounder (early hopefully)
I would also take back Ilyasova's contract for #30 unless we felt we might be jeopardizing 2 max contracts.
Free Agency:
I would stay away from Durant. It sucks that it all changed overnight, but it did. Signing him would almost be cruel in a way knowing that we have him only to watch him sit in a suit every night.
Make the pitch to Kawhi and hope for the best. If it doesn't work out pivot to Russell if available and possibly Randle.
offered hayward 14 and 20 for cap space would you do it?
No I wouldnt. Thats simply not enough for taking on that contract.
And for everyone holding out hope for Kawhi- why on earth would he come to the Knicks? I just dont see any scenario where he seriously considers let alone signs with the Knicks.
And if the Knicks sign Julius Randle to 4 years 80 million Im taking a long break as a fan.
offered hayward 14 and 20 for cap space would you do it?
No I wouldnt. Thats simply not enough for taking on that contract.
And for everyone holding out hope for Kawhi- why on earth would he come to the Knicks? I just dont see any scenario where he seriously considers let alone signs with the Knicks.
And if the Knicks sign Julius Randle to 4 years 80 million Im taking a long break as a fan.
Well, I mean I'm not kidding myself into thinking he'll definitely be here, but he's taking the meeting. Unless/until he saysa he won't meet with the Knicks I'll hold out some slim hopes.
but I can understand why people think he should be the third pick overall. The upside is there, but I think the most likely scenario for him is that he is a solid starter in the league, not an all star, which is fine. I have seen most RJ's college games and I fear he can be stopped at the next level if his outside game does not dramatically improve. I think Garland is intriguing but I have not seen enough of him to make a solid comparison. However, and maybe this is a pet peeve of mine, but I hate when people say we should draft Barrett third because he was supposed to be the number one pick before last year's draft. Well, you know what, we had a year of watching him play and two players surpassed him; if he stayed one more year, in next year's draft should a team pick him 6th because he would have been the third pick this year? The argument makes no sense at all.
shouldnt be anyones only reason, but it should be part of the reason. Are we supposed to ignore everything he did before he got to college? So ignoring the few years before college is normal, but determining his future based off one college season is perfectly fine? We have seen tons of guys who were consensus top 3 picks who bomb in college and dont get picked anywhere near there. The point with Barrett is he was the consensus one, went out and had a very good freshmen year and now is third just cause two guys exploded onto the scene.
but I can understand why people think he should be the third pick overall. The upside is there, but I think the most likely scenario for him is that he is a solid starter in the league, not an all star, which is fine. I have seen most RJ's college games and I fear he can be stopped at the next level if his outside game does not dramatically improve. I think Garland is intriguing but I have not seen enough of him to make a solid comparison. However, and maybe this is a pet peeve of mine, but I hate when people say we should draft Barrett third because he was supposed to be the number one pick before last year's draft. Well, you know what, we had a year of watching him play and two players surpassed him; if he stayed one more year, in next year's draft should a team pick him 6th because he would have been the third pick this year? The argument makes no sense at all.
What do you think of Zion's outside shot holding him back? To my eye Zion's outside game is significantly worse than RJ's.
they need to surround him with shooters, he is going to venwfit a ton from the spacing in the nba, duke had zero shooters and he got to the rim at will..
and just 24. He's not KD, but if he's what the Knicks get, he's pretty good. Link - ( New Window )
Awful defender. Good scorer that doesnt do much else on the court to help you win. A big no thanks on any long term deal with him.
Sounds like Horford may head to Brooklyn. It would be hilarious if the Nets signed Irving and Horford away from the Celtics.
His problem is consistency, not defensive ability
Look, we all want perfect two way players. But there just aren't that many out there. I have higher hopes for FA, but if we end up with Randle on a 4 year deal, I'll be ok with that, too. He's a very tough and skilled offensively and added 3 pt shooting last year (.344). He's still getting better. The knicks could do worse and have certainly done worse in the past. Julius Randle late game defense - ( New Window )
I don't understand the hate for Barrett. He is a 19 year old kid with very good talent, especially fitting in the modern day NBA. To be honest, my fear is that NOLA hops in front of the Knicks and takes him.
His production at Duke is not something to sniff at and when Zion was out, there was barely no support. If you watch the first Syracuse game, where a couple of guys got hurt, he carried that team himself to overtime.
He needs some improvement, but in my mind, he is can be plugged in at the 1,2 or 3 for the next 15 years and watch him improve. I can't say he will be an all-star or not, but he very well could be as he is a very hard worker and skilled.
He got worse on defense last year. He put zero effort in on that end, and thats pretty alarming in a contract year. His 3pt shooting may have improved, but hes still not a good shooter spacing the floor.
If the Knicks prize this offseason is Julius Randle at 4 years 80 million, I will be beyond disappointed.
and guys like him. You get him through his prime years and he's likely to improve a bit - but if he's truly awful on defense then you're likely better off avoiding him. I'm going to pretend I've seen a lot of him. But I do like the idea of getting younger guys like him and Russell, or maybe Brogdon (not sure why he'd leave a very good Bucks team though).
Backtracking on kyrie to brooklyn being done has begun
Woj this morning said the idea is to have kyrie and another star if that doesnt happen, he thinks they just keep russell..
If Kyrie still wants to come to the Knicks with Durant- Im all for it. Even if the Knicks get Durant , I just think its going to be difficult to acquire a true star in the next couple years. 2020 free agent class is pretty bad. Whos the next big star available? Now until 2020, the only stars I could see traded are Conley, Holiday and Beal. But things could always change...
The Knicks are in a tough spot. If they get Durant, id try to sign a couple younger guys as well - i.e Brogdon. But is it better to keep the cap space or overpay to get a couple guys?
but I can understand why people think he should be the third pick overall. The upside is there, but I think the most likely scenario for him is that he is a solid starter in the league, not an all star, which is fine. I have seen most RJ's college games and I fear he can be stopped at the next level if his outside game does not dramatically improve. I think Garland is intriguing but I have not seen enough of him to make a solid comparison. However, and maybe this is a pet peeve of mine, but I hate when people say we should draft Barrett third because he was supposed to be the number one pick before last year's draft. Well, you know what, we had a year of watching him play and two players surpassed him; if he stayed one more year, in next year's draft should a team pick him 6th because he would have been the third pick this year? The argument makes no sense at all.
What do you think of Zion's outside shot holding him back? To my eye Zion's outside game is significantly worse than RJ's.
Zion is the biggest risk reward guy I have ever seen. Zion's outside game was putrid (although it did come on a bit after he came back from his knee and he hit some three pointers). Look,if Zion can physically dominate like he did in college in the NBA, he is going to be a superstar. If he can't, he might be a bust. I tend to think he will physically dominate, but anyone who really thinks they know for sure are full of shite.
but I can understand why people think he should be the third pick overall. The upside is there, but I think the most likely scenario for him is that he is a solid starter in the league, not an all star, which is fine. I have seen most RJ's college games and I fear he can be stopped at the next level if his outside game does not dramatically improve. I think Garland is intriguing but I have not seen enough of him to make a solid comparison. However, and maybe this is a pet peeve of mine, but I hate when people say we should draft Barrett third because he was supposed to be the number one pick before last year's draft. Well, you know what, we had a year of watching him play and two players surpassed him; if he stayed one more year, in next year's draft should a team pick him 6th because he would have been the third pick this year? The argument makes no sense at all.
I basically feel this way exactly
RE: RE: Backtracking on kyrie to brooklyn being done has begun
Woj this morning said the idea is to have kyrie and another star if that doesnt happen, he thinks they just keep russell..
If Kyrie still wants to come to the Knicks with Durant- Im all for it. Even if the Knicks get Durant , I just think its going to be difficult to acquire a true star in the next couple years. 2020 free agent class is pretty bad. Whos the next big star available? Now until 2020, the only stars I could see traded are Conley, Holiday and Beal. But things could always change...
The Knicks are in a tough spot. If they get Durant, id try to sign a couple younger guys as well - i.e Brogdon. But is it better to keep the cap space or overpay to get a couple guys?
The 2021 class is loaded. If the Knicks strike out on KD and Kawhi, they should keep the flexibility to have at least one max then ie if you're taking on contracts to get assets make sure they don't run past two years. Paul George, Lillard, McCollum, Gobert, Beal, Giannis, Oladipo could all become UFA's.
RE: so they are only using kyrie to get the other star?
What hate? The great majority of posters like him and believe he's the best choice at #3.
What you shouldn't do is make him the second coming because right now he isn't. He's an average floor shooter, poor free throw and 3-point shooter. His handle is decent not great. He has great upside but has to improve several facets of his game to be a difference maker in the future.
I don't hate Barrett. I feel he'll be a good nba player. I'm just
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shouldnt be anyones only reason, but it should be part of the reason. Are we supposed to ignore everything he did before he got to college? So ignoring the few years before college is normal, but determining his future based off one college season is perfectly fine? We have seen tons of guys who were consensus top 3 picks who bomb in college and dont get picked anywhere near there. The point with Barrett is he was the consensus one, went out and had a very good freshmen year and now is third just cause two guys exploded onto the scene.
I dont think that it's just because Zion and Morant had breakout years. Part of the equation is that, real or imagined, Barrett didnt build on his "consensus #1" reputation. Part of what goes into calling a guy the top pick in a draft is that you are assuming the player continues to grow and develop.
shouldnt be anyones only reason, but it should be part of the reason. Are we supposed to ignore everything he did before he got to college? So ignoring the few years before college is normal, but determining his future based off one college season is perfectly fine? We have seen tons of guys who were consensus top 3 picks who bomb in college and dont get picked anywhere near there. The point with Barrett is he was the consensus one, went out and had a very good freshmen year and now is third just cause two guys exploded onto the scene.
I dont think that it's just because Zion and Morant had breakout years. Part of the equation is that, real or imagined, Barrett didnt build on his "consensus #1" reputation. Part of what goes into calling a guy the top pick in a draft is that you are assuming the player continues to grow and develop.
Fully agree. Morant kind of exploded "out of nowhere" but Barrett has "dropped" in people's eyes in decent part due to his actual perceived flaws and not simply "he fell because of the other 2"
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i get that Conley is owed a ton of money, but man that return sux. I thought UTA was going to contend this past year and was a bit off, but now with conley they should def fight for the west.
I wish the Knicks could somehow get another pick in the
Woj this morning said the idea is to have kyrie and another star if that doesnt happen, he thinks they just keep russell..
If Kyrie still wants to come to the Knicks with Durant- Im all for it. Even if the Knicks get Durant , I just think its going to be difficult to acquire a true star in the next couple years. 2020 free agent class is pretty bad. Whos the next big star available? Now until 2020, the only stars I could see traded are Conley, Holiday and Beal. But things could always change...
The Knicks are in a tough spot. If they get Durant, id try to sign a couple younger guys as well - i.e Brogdon. But is it better to keep the cap space or overpay to get a couple guys?
Better to keep the space. Unless you can get a guy who emerges like Oladipo or like Harden did when he went to Rockets from Thunder.
The nightmare scenario for all Knicks fans should be signing someone like Khris Middleton to a max contract.
They're not handing out a max contract to a nobody.
However, salaries are exploding, so expect to see the Knicks sign role players to contract that are bigger than you've seen before. 33 year old Horford opted out of 30m a year because he can get more.
This offseason is going to change what an average contract is across the league for non-stars.
When Knicks went after Lebron, they traded away draft picks to clear cap space.
Now they have cleared space by trading POrzingas for Dallas' two picks.
So they are in much better shape because they have options. Donnie basically had no choice but to sign Amare because he had no draft picks to build with.
But now knicks don't have to sign an "Amare" because they have 5 first rounders over the next three years. PLus, the #3 pick this year. I also think the situation in Dallas has the potential to deteriorate and those picks might wind up being better than expected.
But the point is the Knicks have options that they did not have after they "lost out" on Lebron.
comes from Free Agency. They have to spend responsibly. If they don't land a big fish, give out short year deals. If people don't want to take them, don't add more years on. Just wait it out. If you overpay a person on a one year deal, it's fine, but overpaying for multiple years with mediocre talent is what got us THJr, etc. Not bad talent, but overpaying with no flexibility is a death sentence for bottom tier teams.
It seems obvious teams are testing whether this is the usual Knicks or not. The usual Knicks would have made that trade and may have made the trade with the Hawks too.
Not sure I agree that he's a better athlete than Reddick. He's also not shown himself to be as good a shooter.
Redick shot better from three as a freshman while Herro was a better free throw shooter. The major difference is Herro was far better scoring around the basket. I think he can be projected to shoot well from three point range with a more diverse offensive game as opposed to JJ's just catch and shoot.
While Darius Garland could be someone people within the Knicks organization like, the expectation among agents and opposing execs on Wednesday afternoon is that New York will select Duke's RJ Barrett if he's available at No. 3, per
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"According to an NBA source, some members of the Knicks organization think Garland could turn out to be a better NBA player than RJ Barrett but regard the Duke swingman as the safe pick at 3 and remains the likely selection.
I think the workout gave them something to think about, the source said.
Theres potential for the Knicks to trade down to four with New Orleans, where the Pelicans would seek to reunite Barrett with Zion Williamson. It could depend on what the Pelicans are offering."
If the Pelicans gave the Knicks their top 3 protected first round pick in next year's draft and the Knicks don't feel that strong about Barrett, I would swap.
another team looking to shed salary with their first
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Oklahoma City has increased its efforts this afternoon to shed salary along with the No. 21 pick en route to dodging luxury tax, league sources say. Steven Adams, Andre Roberson, Dennis Schroeder all very available at the moment.
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Great defender, but among the biggest offensive black holes on O. Like playing 4-5
Not advocating for Roberson the basketball player but Roberson's contract + the 21st pick.
Fair enough. I'm not that aware of contract situations. In that sense from those 3, I'd rather Schroeder, but again it would depend on cost for trade & contract
Still I'd bet there's other better "contract + pick" situations than Roberson, even on other teams
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Vanderbilt guard Darius Garland had his workout with the Knicks today, but New York remains locked on selecting Dukes RJ Barrett with the NBA Drafts third overall pick on Thursday, league sources tell ESPN.
Beck said the Knicks "made overtures" to AD for 2020 free agency
knowing they didn't have the ammo to get him via trade. I think it's a lock he stays in LA, but it does point towards the Knicks saving some cap space for next summer. Probably pursue KD and some one year deals or expirings via trade.
Mavs the favorites to sign Horford, says Kevin O'Connor of the Ringer.
I wouldnt be so quick to nix the idea. If they strike out in free agency, getting a draft pick in exchange for taking his contract would be fine. He doesnt have to stay on the roster - just release him.
RE: Mavs the favorites to sign Horford, says Kevin O'Connor of the Ringer.
If LBJ does not let AD be the man in LA, it is not a slam dunk he stays.
I just like to hear the Knicks seem to be keeping themselives flexible, will be very interesting to see what KD does: I think FA looks like this right now:
If LBJ does not let AD be the man in LA, it is not a slam dunk he stays.
I just like to hear the Knicks seem to be keeping themselives flexible, will be very interesting to see what KD does: I think FA looks like this right now:
I don't think NYK is out of it for Kyrie. He seems pretty set on a NY team, and LAL doesn't have enough for a max right now. There were some rumblings even today that NJ doesn't even want Kyrie if he doesn't come with someone else.
If LBJ does not let AD be the man in LA, it is not a slam dunk he stays.
I just like to hear the Knicks seem to be keeping themselives flexible, will be very interesting to see what KD does: I think FA looks like this right now:
I don't think NYK is out of it for Kyrie. He seems pretty set on a NY team, and LAL doesn't have enough for a max right now. There were some rumblings even today that NJ doesn't even want Kyrie if he doesn't come with someone else.
Jon - you might be right, I have just not heard much around Kyrie and the Knicks. He is a strange guy.
RE: RE: Mavs the favorites to sign Horford, says Kevin O'Connor of the Ringer.
The Knicks medical staff is not helping them right now. Scottie Pippen killed them on ESPN the other day and all the Porzingis stuff did not help either.
The Knicks medical staff is not helping them right now. Scottie Pippen killed them on ESPN the other day and all the Porzingis stuff did not help either.
Guys drop like flies - basketball doesn't have a rep of being a physical game, but it takes its toll. I'm not doubting your info, but I have a hard time pinning anything on the Knicks training staff.
The Knicks medical staff is not helping them right now. Scottie Pippen killed them on ESPN the other day and all the Porzingis stuff did not help either.
This seems like one of those Knick narratives that's likely got no substance to it.
The Knicks medical staff is not helping them right now. Scottie Pippen killed them on ESPN the other day and all the Porzingis stuff did not help either.
Did Pippen also mention how it was all kps plan and he never planned on playing this year?
but I can understand why people think he should be the third pick overall. The upside is there, but I think the most likely scenario for him is that he is a solid starter in the league, not an all star, which is fine. I have seen most RJ's college games and I fear he can be stopped at the next level if his outside game does not dramatically improve. I think Garland is intriguing but I have not seen enough of him to make a solid comparison. However, and maybe this is a pet peeve of mine, but I hate when people say we should draft Barrett third because he was supposed to be the number one pick before last year's draft. Well, you know what, we had a year of watching him play and two players surpassed him; if he stayed one more year, in next year's draft should a team pick him 6th because he would have been the third pick this year? The argument makes no sense at all.
What do you think of Zion's outside shot holding him back? To my eye Zion's outside game is significantly worse than RJ's.
Zion is the biggest risk reward guy I have ever seen. Zion's outside game was putrid (although it did come on a bit after he came back from his knee and he hit some three pointers). Look,if Zion can physically dominate like he did in college in the NBA, he is going to be a superstar. If he can't, he might be a bust. I tend to think he will physically dominate, but anyone who really thinks they know for sure are full of shite.
Couldnt agree more. I lean towards yes, Zion will dominate in the pros but no one knows for sure. My theory is to never turn your back on a player that does whatever the fuck he wants out there. Id always draft that guy and go down swinging. Zion is too special to pass up. Guys like him usually figure everything out as they go. Too good to fail.
NOLA, Im told, is assembling assets in all out effort to leapfrog Knicks into second slot in order to snare RJ Barrett. Obviously, Pels are offering Grizz No 4 pick as part payment. No pity parties planned. NY would land Morant or Garland. Memphis would pluck point that drops... Link - ( New Window )
That Barrett will not end up in the knicks, someone will trade ahead or Memphis will take him. Whenever this alleged guarantees are out there in the public it never seems to workout for the knicks. I understand many people prefer morant anyway, but I am not as high on him as others. I could actually see the knicks taking garland over morant. Hopefully they would trade down to #4 in that scenario.
There's a gaping hole in their lineup. It would not make any sense to trade out when they could just take Morant. Its who they were reported to want in the first place.
There's a gaping hole in their lineup. It would not make any sense to trade out when they could just take Morant. Its who they were reported to want in the first place.
True, but this is a 33 win team that has now traded away its two best players. Theyre in rebuild mode and have gaping holes everywhere. Position shouldnt even be a consideration for them, just getting the best talent should. Even on talent Morant would seem like the pick, but maybe theyre worried about his knee and want a surer thing. Well see.
1. Planted the seed w/ AD that we'll be in on 2020 big time
2. "Thanks for the call. No to CP3" <click>
Many old Knick regimes would not have done either correctly! However obvious. Still just a small positive for now...but more in the W column for this franchise fwiw
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The Knicks medical staff is not helping them right now. Scottie Pippen killed them on ESPN the other day and all the Porzingis stuff did not help either.
Their medical "staff" is HSS, which serves most of the NYC area teams.
If he's referring to their training staff, they have one of the more respected groups in the NBA. Roger Hinds has been a trainer in the NBA for 22 years. And he also has experience in S&C:
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8 and 10 for 3 in this draft is an insult.
It's also not smart to turn Barrett into something he isn't when evaluating him, like a great shooter right now.
I'll be kool with whatever decision this FO makes and I haven't said that about a Knicks braintrust in a long time.
It's also not smart to turn Barrett into something he isn't when evaluating him, like a great shooter right now.
I'll be kool with whatever decision this FO makes and I haven't said that about a Knicks braintrust in a long time.
I was talking more about trading the pick than working out a guy. That's due diligence stuff. It's nice to actually have a top 3 pick in a draft known as a three player draft.
Also if we do draft Ja or Garland. Can we move DSJ and/or Frank for a late teens first?
Also if we do draft Ja or Garland. Can we move DSJ and/or Frank for a late teens first?
How many successful 6'2 175 2 guards are there in the league currently?
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I know it's a small sample but he shot the lights out.
Also if we do draft Ja or Garland. Can we move DSJ and/or Frank for a late teens first?
How many successful 6'2 175 2 guards are there in the league currently?
So I am guessing in your opinion that's a no?
How many successful QB under 6' ? Doesn't mean there are not unicorns out there
Everything I have read and heard he has Kyrie type skills. Not suggesting to draft him since most don't have a good read on him only playing 5 college games.
Just looking for where he fits
#3, knox, frank, dennis smith, two future dallas picks for paul..
Sign carmelo and wade...
oh its not 10 years agao...
What a joke. No one is touching that contract. Houston is stuck with him.
How long before he is on the Lakers?
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Knicks related but Chris Paul has asked out of Houston.
What a joke. No one is touching that contract. Houston is stuck with him.
Paul's cap # is $38.5M next year. If the Lakers and Pelicans wait until 7/30 to finalize the AD deal I believe they could make it work with Paul if AD waives his trade kicker but I could be off.
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they dont have the salary and cap room to make it work
Paul's cap # is $38.5M next year. If the Lakers and Pelicans wait until 7/30 to finalize the AD deal I believe they could make it work with Paul if AD waives his trade kicker but I could be off.
Reports are the deal close July 6th cutting out the 3rd Max deal. They only have 23 million available
According to Ryan Blake, draft consultant to the NBA, the Knicks cant go wrong with the third pick in the draft at Barclays Center. At No. 2, Memphis will take either Murray State point guard Ja Morant as many believe or Duke swingman RJ Barrett, and the Knicks will be in good shape.
Blake called it a tough one to choose between the two college studs, but added, If I was starting a team from scratch, Id give a little edge to Ja. He has a little bit more proven weaponry.
However, Blake is also in love with Barrett.
I think hes going to be a future All-Star, Blake said. We look at where we were a year ago 99 percent of the decision-makers said RJ will definitely be the No. 1 pick. Both guys are high-guarantee types from background, exposure, personality, ability.
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The New York Knicks are extremely open to trading Frank Ntilikina for a late first-rounder or second-rounder, per @NYPost_Berman
Absolutely dreadful pick.
Mitchell didn't fit Phils bullshit triangle offense. Mitchell wanted to be a Knick too
The New York Knicks are extremely open to trading Frank Ntilikina for a late first-rounder or second-rounder, per @NYPost_Berman
Knicks are 'extremely open' to be given 'anything for nothing'
We've been patient on Frank, and will pull for him for as long as he's a Knick. But he's done almost nothing. I have a huge love for D, but rarely saw him be THAT exceptional in spite of flashes - neither as help or on the ball - on D, much less his uselessness on O. Even the things he could do well on O, he'd take himself out being timid or scared at least in his decision-making on court
Almost reminds me of Jared Jeffries, not exactly the same and JJ was better (i guess), but was touted the team's best defender by the worst D coach on the worst D team. Sure he tried and was likeable, but was awful at NBA bball
Bilas and every other expert the night of that draft was saying solid starter was his best case scenario.
Ugh.
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Interesting. I hadn't seen this latest update.
Horford is on the hunt for a championship, and with the C's failing to land AD... doesn't look like that's in the cards with Boston.
Where might Horford end up? He'd be an amazing add for a team like Houston... although I haven't studied if they could afford him. Al might be willing to take a discount for a title chance, though.
This is spot on. The Celtics sat on their assets and were not aggressive & may have missed their window.
I love seeing this. And hopefully can stop hearing about Bostons treasure chest of assets.
What happened to the Celts is that Kyrie just went off the deep end & torpedoed their season/immediate future. If he planned on staying in Boston, you sure as hell can bet AD is a Celtic right now, not a Laker. Also, they did get screwed with that Rose Rule. They would have gotten AD this winter.
I'm not crying for the Celts, but I think they'll still be good next year. A top 3 or 4 team in the East? Probably not, but I don't think they're going to fall off that much. Losing Kyrie will eliminate a lot of the drama surrounding them. Tatum, Brown, Hayward Scary Terry, Smart, etc. are all good pieces. It'll be interesting to see what happens with Horford. He's invaluable.
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I know it's a small sample but he shot the lights out.
Also if we do draft Ja or Garland. Can we move DSJ and/or Frank for a late teens first?
How many successful 6'2 175 2 guards are there in the league currently?
Trae Young, Lou Williams, kemba Walker, DeAaron Fox, Mike Conley, Darren collison, DJ Augustin... there are a bunch of successful undersized score first PG in the league. That was a bad example, try that again.
They went to two conference championships, made a play for Irving, and lured Hayward.
They couldn't get by LeBron, and frankly weren't going to get smoked by the Warriors.
Irving doesn't want to be there, and Horford is a good, not max player.
It's time for the Celtics to retool around Tatum, Brown, Smart, Hayward, and possibly Rozier.
If Celtics don't keep Rozier they very well may land Russell.
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I know it's a small sample but he shot the lights out.
Also if we do draft Ja or Garland. Can we move DSJ and/or Frank for a late teens first?
How many successful 6'2 175 2 guards are there in the league currently?
Trae Young, Lou Williams, kemba Walker, DeAaron Fox, Mike Conley, Darren collison, DJ Augustin... there are a bunch of successful undersized score first PG in the league. That was a bad example, try that again.
If they start going down the Julius Randle and Bobby Portis route, this season just became more of a disaster.
I think it was mentioned a couple places (cant remember exactly where) that the knicks interest in Randle would be on a short deal. I think they also mentioned Dlo in the same article, but there is zero chance you are getting him on a short term deal. TBH i dont think you are getting randle on a short term deal either. That said i like the thinking of not locking yourself into a 4/80 mill type deal for a Randle.
In this scenario, are we not getting any other FAs? then yes, I would.
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In this scenario, are we not getting any other FAs? then yes, I would.
you would still have 37 million in space...could still sign russell and a 10 million dollar player or a ciuple smaller pieces
Bad draft picks and damaged goods. How could you say no?
his master plan may not have resulted in a title (yet), but I'd take him as my team president over a moron like Mills any day.
Draft:
Sit tight at #3 and take Barrett or Morant.
If New Orleans called about #3, I would listen for #4 and some of their newly acquired Lakers future draft assets and take Garland at #4, but they would really need to sweeten the pot to make it worthwhile.
Trade Frank for a 2nd rounder (early hopefully)
I would also take back Ilyasova's contract for #30 unless we felt we might be jeopardizing 2 max contracts.
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I would stay away from Durant. It sucks that it all changed overnight, but it did. Signing him would almost be cruel in a way knowing that we have him only to watch him sit in a suit every night.
Make the pitch to Kawhi and hope for the best. If it doesn't work out pivot to Russell if available and possibly Randle.
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Bad draft picks and damaged goods. How could you say no?
Yeah fuck no to that deal
No I wouldnt. Thats simply not enough for taking on that contract.
And for everyone holding out hope for Kawhi- why on earth would he come to the Knicks? I just dont see any scenario where he seriously considers let alone signs with the Knicks.
And if the Knicks sign Julius Randle to 4 years 80 million Im taking a long break as a fan.
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No I wouldnt. Thats simply not enough for taking on that contract.
And for everyone holding out hope for Kawhi- why on earth would he come to the Knicks? I just dont see any scenario where he seriously considers let alone signs with the Knicks.
And if the Knicks sign Julius Randle to 4 years 80 million Im taking a long break as a fan.
Well, I mean I'm not kidding myself into thinking he'll definitely be here, but he's taking the meeting. Unless/until he saysa he won't meet with the Knicks I'll hold out some slim hopes.
Awful defender. Good scorer that doesnt do much else on the court to help you win. A big no thanks on any long term deal with him.
Sounds like Horford may head to Brooklyn. It would be hilarious if the Nets signed Irving and Horford away from the Celtics.
What do you think of Zion's outside shot holding him back? To my eye Zion's outside game is significantly worse than RJ's.
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Awful defender. Good scorer that doesnt do much else on the court to help you win. A big no thanks on any long term deal with him.
Sounds like Horford may head to Brooklyn. It would be hilarious if the Nets signed Irving and Horford away from the Celtics.
His problem is consistency, not defensive ability
Look, we all want perfect two way players. But there just aren't that many out there. I have higher hopes for FA, but if we end up with Randle on a 4 year deal, I'll be ok with that, too. He's a very tough and skilled offensively and added 3 pt shooting last year (.344). He's still getting better. The knicks could do worse and have certainly done worse in the past.
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His production at Duke is not something to sniff at and when Zion was out, there was barely no support. If you watch the first Syracuse game, where a couple of guys got hurt, he carried that team himself to overtime.
He needs some improvement, but in my mind, he is can be plugged in at the 1,2 or 3 for the next 15 years and watch him improve. I can't say he will be an all-star or not, but he very well could be as he is a very hard worker and skilled.
If the Knicks prize this offseason is Julius Randle at 4 years 80 million, I will be beyond disappointed.
If Kyrie still wants to come to the Knicks with Durant- Im all for it. Even if the Knicks get Durant , I just think its going to be difficult to acquire a true star in the next couple years. 2020 free agent class is pretty bad. Whos the next big star available? Now until 2020, the only stars I could see traded are Conley, Holiday and Beal. But things could always change...
The Knicks are in a tough spot. If they get Durant, id try to sign a couple younger guys as well - i.e Brogdon. But is it better to keep the cap space or overpay to get a couple guys?
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but I can understand why people think he should be the third pick overall. The upside is there, but I think the most likely scenario for him is that he is a solid starter in the league, not an all star, which is fine. I have seen most RJ's college games and I fear he can be stopped at the next level if his outside game does not dramatically improve. I think Garland is intriguing but I have not seen enough of him to make a solid comparison. However, and maybe this is a pet peeve of mine, but I hate when people say we should draft Barrett third because he was supposed to be the number one pick before last year's draft. Well, you know what, we had a year of watching him play and two players surpassed him; if he stayed one more year, in next year's draft should a team pick him 6th because he would have been the third pick this year? The argument makes no sense at all.
What do you think of Zion's outside shot holding him back? To my eye Zion's outside game is significantly worse than RJ's.
Zion is the biggest risk reward guy I have ever seen. Zion's outside game was putrid (although it did come on a bit after he came back from his knee and he hit some three pointers). Look,if Zion can physically dominate like he did in college in the NBA, he is going to be a superstar. If he can't, he might be a bust. I tend to think he will physically dominate, but anyone who really thinks they know for sure are full of shite.
I basically feel this way exactly
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If Kyrie still wants to come to the Knicks with Durant- Im all for it. Even if the Knicks get Durant , I just think its going to be difficult to acquire a true star in the next couple years. 2020 free agent class is pretty bad. Whos the next big star available? Now until 2020, the only stars I could see traded are Conley, Holiday and Beal. But things could always change...
The Knicks are in a tough spot. If they get Durant, id try to sign a couple younger guys as well - i.e Brogdon. But is it better to keep the cap space or overpay to get a couple guys?
The 2021 class is loaded. If the Knicks strike out on KD and Kawhi, they should keep the flexibility to have at least one max then ie if you're taking on contracts to get assets make sure they don't run past two years. Paul George, Lillard, McCollum, Gobert, Beal, Giannis, Oladipo could all become UFA's.
like i have been saying kyrie by himself makes no sense for the nets...
this feels like woj is hearing no one else wants the nets
What you shouldn't do is make him the second coming because right now he isn't. He's an average floor shooter, poor free throw and 3-point shooter. His handle is decent not great. He has great upside but has to improve several facets of his game to be a difference maker in the future.
remember when the kyrie to nets rumors first started, it was said it was his people saying he was going to the nets...
Perhaps his people told the nets hey we can convince kyrie to come, and in reality they couldnt..
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I dont think that it's just because Zion and Morant had breakout years. Part of the equation is that, real or imagined, Barrett didnt build on his "consensus #1" reputation. Part of what goes into calling a guy the top pick in a draft is that you are assuming the player continues to grow and develop.
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shouldnt be anyones only reason, but it should be part of the reason. Are we supposed to ignore everything he did before he got to college? So ignoring the few years before college is normal, but determining his future based off one college season is perfectly fine? We have seen tons of guys who were consensus top 3 picks who bomb in college and dont get picked anywhere near there. The point with Barrett is he was the consensus one, went out and had a very good freshmen year and now is third just cause two guys exploded onto the scene.
I dont think that it's just because Zion and Morant had breakout years. Part of the equation is that, real or imagined, Barrett didnt build on his "consensus #1" reputation. Part of what goes into calling a guy the top pick in a draft is that you are assuming the player continues to grow and develop.
Fully agree. Morant kind of exploded "out of nowhere" but Barrett has "dropped" in people's eyes in decent part due to his actual perceived flaws and not simply "he fell because of the other 2"
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trade is to jazz for crowder, allen, korver, picks
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Woj this morning said the idea is to have kyrie and another star if that doesnt happen, he thinks they just keep russell..
If Kyrie still wants to come to the Knicks with Durant- Im all for it. Even if the Knicks get Durant , I just think its going to be difficult to acquire a true star in the next couple years. 2020 free agent class is pretty bad. Whos the next big star available? Now until 2020, the only stars I could see traded are Conley, Holiday and Beal. But things could always change...
The Knicks are in a tough spot. If they get Durant, id try to sign a couple younger guys as well - i.e Brogdon. But is it better to keep the cap space or overpay to get a couple guys?
Better to keep the space. Unless you can get a guy who emerges like Oladipo or like Harden did when he went to Rockets from Thunder.
The nightmare scenario for all Knicks fans should be signing someone like Khris Middleton to a max contract.
This offseason is going to change what an average contract is across the league for non-stars.
Now they have cleared space by trading POrzingas for Dallas' two picks.
So they are in much better shape because they have options. Donnie basically had no choice but to sign Amare because he had no draft picks to build with.
But now knicks don't have to sign an "Amare" because they have 5 first rounders over the next three years. PLus, the #3 pick this year. I also think the situation in Dallas has the potential to deteriorate and those picks might wind up being better than expected.
But the point is the Knicks have options that they did not have after they "lost out" on Lebron.
He's a better athlete than JJ Reddick, who consistently finds himself starting on 50+ win teams. It's a shooting league and this kid can shoot.
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He's a better athlete than JJ Reddick, who consistently finds himself starting on 50+ win teams. It's a shooting league and this kid can shoot.
Not sure I agree that he's a better athlete than Reddick. He's also not shown himself to be as good a shooter.
That's definitely the top tier of awful contracts. Wiggins is the other one I'd put up there with those two.
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I'm so proud of Scott Perry. If Isiah was running this team, Paul would be a Knick and Barrett would be a Rocket.
Not sure I agree that he's a better athlete than Reddick. He's also not shown himself to be as good a shooter.
Redick shot better from three as a freshman while Herro was a better free throw shooter. The major difference is Herro was far better scoring around the basket. I think he can be projected to shoot well from three point range with a more diverse offensive game as opposed to JJ's just catch and shoot.
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I think the workout gave them something to think about, the source said.
Theres potential for the Knicks to trade down to four with New Orleans, where the Pelicans would seek to reunite Barrett with Zion Williamson. It could depend on what the Pelicans are offering."
He's a great shooter. There really is a lot to like there. I think it's worth a call to the Pelicans.
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Not advocating for Roberson the basketball player but Roberson's contract + the 21st pick.
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Great defender, but among the biggest offensive black holes on O. Like playing 4-5
Not advocating for Roberson the basketball player but Roberson's contract + the 21st pick.
Fair enough. I'm not that aware of contract situations. In that sense from those 3, I'd rather Schroeder, but again it would depend on cost for trade & contract
Still I'd bet there's other better "contract + pick" situations than Roberson, even on other teams
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Vanderbilt guard Darius Garland had his workout with the Knicks today, but New York remains locked on selecting Dukes RJ Barrett with the NBA Drafts third overall pick on Thursday, league sources tell ESPN.
have to appease kp
I just like to hear the Knicks seem to be keeping themselives flexible, will be very interesting to see what KD does: I think FA looks like this right now:
KD: GS/NYK/Brooklyn
Kyrie: LAL/Brooklyn
Kawhi: LAC/Toronto
Klay: GS
Horford: Dallas/Brooklyn/LAL
Butler: Philly/LAL
Middleton: Bucks
I just like to hear the Knicks seem to be keeping themselives flexible, will be very interesting to see what KD does: I think FA looks like this right now:
KD: GS/NYK/Brooklyn
Kyrie: LAL/Brooklyn
Kawhi: LAC/Toronto
Klay: GS
Horford: Dallas/Brooklyn/LAL
Butler: Philly/LAL
Middleton: Bucks
I don't think NYK is out of it for Kyrie. He seems pretty set on a NY team, and LAL doesn't have enough for a max right now. There were some rumblings even today that NJ doesn't even want Kyrie if he doesn't come with someone else.
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I just like to hear the Knicks seem to be keeping themselives flexible, will be very interesting to see what KD does: I think FA looks like this right now:
KD: GS/NYK/Brooklyn
Kyrie: LAL/Brooklyn
Kawhi: LAC/Toronto
Klay: GS
Horford: Dallas/Brooklyn/LAL
Butler: Philly/LAL
Middleton: Bucks
I don't think NYK is out of it for Kyrie. He seems pretty set on a NY team, and LAL doesn't have enough for a max right now. There were some rumblings even today that NJ doesn't even want Kyrie if he doesn't come with someone else.
Jon - you might be right, I have just not heard much around Kyrie and the Knicks. He is a strange guy.
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The Post today brought up the idea of the Nets signing Porzingis to an offer sheet
Dont see how that would possibly occur though.
Nets are looking like they might be edging closer to running it back this year.
Again, I think both Brooklyn and KP have wanted each other for a while. Its unclear how that would happen. Right now, theres no path.
What did he reference?
This seems like one of those Knick narratives that's likely got no substance to it.
Did Pippen also mention how it was all kps plan and he never planned on playing this year?
That would be a good haul for the Pelicans and would bring Garland and RJ to NY.
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but I can understand why people think he should be the third pick overall. The upside is there, but I think the most likely scenario for him is that he is a solid starter in the league, not an all star, which is fine. I have seen most RJ's college games and I fear he can be stopped at the next level if his outside game does not dramatically improve. I think Garland is intriguing but I have not seen enough of him to make a solid comparison. However, and maybe this is a pet peeve of mine, but I hate when people say we should draft Barrett third because he was supposed to be the number one pick before last year's draft. Well, you know what, we had a year of watching him play and two players surpassed him; if he stayed one more year, in next year's draft should a team pick him 6th because he would have been the third pick this year? The argument makes no sense at all.
What do you think of Zion's outside shot holding him back? To my eye Zion's outside game is significantly worse than RJ's.
Zion is the biggest risk reward guy I have ever seen. Zion's outside game was putrid (although it did come on a bit after he came back from his knee and he hit some three pointers). Look,if Zion can physically dominate like he did in college in the NBA, he is going to be a superstar. If he can't, he might be a bust. I tend to think he will physically dominate, but anyone who really thinks they know for sure are full of shite.
Couldnt agree more. I lean towards yes, Zion will dominate in the pros but no one knows for sure. My theory is to never turn your back on a player that does whatever the fuck he wants out there. Id always draft that guy and go down swinging. Zion is too special to pass up. Guys like him usually figure everything out as they go. Too good to fail.
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True, but this is a 33 win team that has now traded away its two best players. Theyre in rebuild mode and have gaping holes everywhere. Position shouldnt even be a consideration for them, just getting the best talent should. Even on talent Morant would seem like the pick, but maybe theyre worried about his knee and want a surer thing. Well see.
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Many old Knick regimes would not have done either correctly! However obvious. Still just a small positive for now...but more in the W column for this franchise fwiw
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The Knicks medical staff is not helping them right now. Scottie Pippen killed them on ESPN the other day and all the Porzingis stuff did not help either.
Their medical "staff" is HSS, which serves most of the NYC area teams.
If he's referring to their training staff, they have one of the more respected groups in the NBA. Roger Hinds has been a trainer in the NBA for 22 years. And he also has experience in S&C:
So happy The Knicks told them to go pound sand