If the Knicks decided to take him at #3 I'd be fine with it. Barrett long term has just as many questions to answer about being a pro as Garland does. I will be honest while I like Barrett a lot my one concern are his shooting percentages, from the floor, beyond the stripe and at the foul line.
Noone knows exactly what he is except he's athletically gifted and has a sweet stroke. Of course he needs coaching and development. To attempt to pigeonhole him at this stage of his game as 'a shoot first PG' is premature.
It's also not smart to turn Barrett into something he isn't when evaluating him, like a great shooter right now.
I'll be kool with whatever decision this FO makes and I haven't said that about a Knicks braintrust in a long time.
I was talking more about trading the pick than working out a guy. That's due diligence stuff. It's nice to actually have a top 3 pick in a draft known as a three player draft.
I personally think and have for a while it's a four player Draft Â
He's really skinny and not really explosive. What he's valued for is sharp shooting and a good playmaking point guard. Defense probably will be a struggle for him due to his lack of size and strength.
I know it's a small sample but he shot the lights out.
Also if we do draft Ja or Garland. Can we move DSJ and/or Frank for a late teens first?
How many successful 6'2 175 2 guards are there in the league currently?
So I am guessing in your opinion that's a no?
How many successful QB under 6' ? Doesn't mean there are not unicorns out there
Everything I have read and heard he has Kyrie type skills. Not suggesting to draft him since most don't have a good read on him only playing 5 college games.
Just looking for where he fits
not a great pure athlete. He's a scoring 1 if he's going to be a plus NBA player. He can't guard 2's at that size. QB is a one-way position. Not comparable
One that I don't think the Knicks can afford unless they get a godfather-type offer to move down. He could be Malik Monk 2.0 or Damian Lillard 2.0 but it's hard to tell from a 4 game sample size, 3 of which were against Winthrop, Alcorn St, and Liberty.
they dont have the salary and cap room to make it work
Paul's cap # is $38.5M next year. If the Lakers and Pelicans wait until 7/30 to finalize the AD deal I believe they could make it work with Paul if AD waives his trade kicker but I could be off.
they dont have the salary and cap room to make it work
Paul's cap # is $38.5M next year. If the Lakers and Pelicans wait until 7/30 to finalize the AD deal I believe they could make it work with Paul if AD waives his trade kicker but I could be off.
Reports are the deal close July 6th cutting out the 3rd Max deal. They only have 23 million available
The Knicks may get themselves a potential All-Star on Thursday just by waiting for Memphis to select.
According to Ryan Blake, draft consultant to the NBA, the Knicks can’t go wrong with the third pick in the draft at Barclays Center. At No. 2, Memphis will take either Murray State point guard Ja Morant — as many believe — or Duke swingman RJ Barrett, and the Knicks will be in good shape.
Blake called it “a tough one’’ to choose between the two college studs, but added, “If I was starting a team from scratch, I’d give a little edge to Ja. He has a little bit more proven weaponry.’’
However, Blake is also in love with Barrett.
“I think he’s going to be a future All-Star,’’ Blake said. “We look at where we were a year ago — 99 percent of the decision-makers said RJ will definitely be the No. 1 pick. Both guys are high-guarantee types — from background, exposure, personality, ability.” Link - ( New Window )
The only products I’d have him endorse would be toilet paper and anti-depressants. Can’t believe Phil had Mitchell in for a workout and decided to pick someone who doesn’t jump too high and get triple doubles.
The only products I’d have him endorse would be toilet paper and anti-depressants. Can’t believe Phil had Mitchell in for a workout and decided to pick someone who doesn’t jump too high and get triple doubles.
Mitchell didn't fit Phils bullshit triangle offense. Mitchell wanted to be a Knick too
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The New York Knicks are ‘extremely open’ to trading Frank Ntilikina for a late first-rounder or second-rounder, per @NYPost_Berman
Knicks are 'extremely open' to be given 'anything for nothing'
We've been patient on Frank, and will pull for him for as long as he's a Knick. But he's done almost nothing. I have a huge love for D, but rarely saw him be THAT exceptional in spite of flashes - neither as help or on the ball - on D, much less his uselessness on O. Even the things he could do well on O, he'd take himself out being timid or scared at least in his decision-making on court
Almost reminds me of Jared Jeffries, not exactly the same and JJ was better (i guess), but was touted the team's best defender by the worst D coach on the worst D team. Sure he tried and was likeable, but was awful at NBA bball
Horford is on the hunt for a championship, and with the C's failing to land AD... doesn't look like that's in the cards with Boston.
Where might Horford end up? He'd be an amazing add for a team like Houston... although I haven't studied if they could afford him. Al might be willing to take a discount for a title chance, though.
What happened to the Celts is that Kyrie just went off the deep end & torpedoed their season/immediate future. If he planned on staying in Boston, you sure as hell can bet AD is a Celtic right now, not a Laker. Also, they did get screwed with that Rose Rule. They would have gotten AD this winter.
I'm not crying for the Celts, but I think they'll still be good next year. A top 3 or 4 team in the East? Probably not, but I don't think they're going to fall off that much. Losing Kyrie will eliminate a lot of the drama surrounding them. Tatum, Brown, Hayward Scary Terry, Smart, etc. are all good pieces. It'll be interesting to see what happens with Horford. He's invaluable.
I know it's a small sample but he shot the lights out.
Also if we do draft Ja or Garland. Can we move DSJ and/or Frank for a late teens first?
How many successful 6'2 175 2 guards are there in the league currently?
Trae Young, Lou Williams, kemba Walker, De’Aaron Fox, Mike Conley, Darren collison, DJ Augustin... there are a bunch of successful undersized score first PG in the league. That was a bad example, try that again.
8 and 10 for 3 in this draft is an insult.
It's also not smart to turn Barrett into something he isn't when evaluating him, like a great shooter right now.
I'll be kool with whatever decision this FO makes and I haven't said that about a Knicks braintrust in a long time.
It's also not smart to turn Barrett into something he isn't when evaluating him, like a great shooter right now.
I'll be kool with whatever decision this FO makes and I haven't said that about a Knicks braintrust in a long time.
I was talking more about trading the pick than working out a guy. That's due diligence stuff. It's nice to actually have a top 3 pick in a draft known as a three player draft.
Also if we do draft Ja or Garland. Can we move DSJ and/or Frank for a late teens first?
Also if we do draft Ja or Garland. Can we move DSJ and/or Frank for a late teens first?
How many successful 6'2 175 2 guards are there in the league currently?
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I know it's a small sample but he shot the lights out.
Also if we do draft Ja or Garland. Can we move DSJ and/or Frank for a late teens first?
How many successful 6'2 175 2 guards are there in the league currently?
So I am guessing in your opinion that's a no?
How many successful QB under 6' ? Doesn't mean there are not unicorns out there
Everything I have read and heard he has Kyrie type skills. Not suggesting to draft him since most don't have a good read on him only playing 5 college games.
Just looking for where he fits
#3, knox, frank, dennis smith, two future dallas picks for paul..
Sign carmelo and wade...
oh its not 10 years agao...
What a joke. No one is touching that contract. Houston is stuck with him.
How long before he is on the Lakers?
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Knicks related but Chris Paul has asked out of Houston.
What a joke. No one is touching that contract. Houston is stuck with him.
Paul's cap # is $38.5M next year. If the Lakers and Pelicans wait until 7/30 to finalize the AD deal I believe they could make it work with Paul if AD waives his trade kicker but I could be off.
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they dont have the salary and cap room to make it work
Paul's cap # is $38.5M next year. If the Lakers and Pelicans wait until 7/30 to finalize the AD deal I believe they could make it work with Paul if AD waives his trade kicker but I could be off.
Reports are the deal close July 6th cutting out the 3rd Max deal. They only have 23 million available
According to Ryan Blake, draft consultant to the NBA, the Knicks can’t go wrong with the third pick in the draft at Barclays Center. At No. 2, Memphis will take either Murray State point guard Ja Morant — as many believe — or Duke swingman RJ Barrett, and the Knicks will be in good shape.
Blake called it “a tough one’’ to choose between the two college studs, but added, “If I was starting a team from scratch, I’d give a little edge to Ja. He has a little bit more proven weaponry.’’
However, Blake is also in love with Barrett.
“I think he’s going to be a future All-Star,’’ Blake said. “We look at where we were a year ago — 99 percent of the decision-makers said RJ will definitely be the No. 1 pick. Both guys are high-guarantee types — from background, exposure, personality, ability.”
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The New York Knicks are ‘extremely open’ to trading Frank Ntilikina for a late first-rounder or second-rounder, per @NYPost_Berman
Absolutely dreadful pick.
Mitchell didn't fit Phils bullshit triangle offense. Mitchell wanted to be a Knick too
The New York Knicks are ‘extremely open’ to trading Frank Ntilikina for a late first-rounder or second-rounder, per @NYPost_Berman
Knicks are 'extremely open' to be given 'anything for nothing'
We've been patient on Frank, and will pull for him for as long as he's a Knick. But he's done almost nothing. I have a huge love for D, but rarely saw him be THAT exceptional in spite of flashes - neither as help or on the ball - on D, much less his uselessness on O. Even the things he could do well on O, he'd take himself out being timid or scared at least in his decision-making on court
Almost reminds me of Jared Jeffries, not exactly the same and JJ was better (i guess), but was touted the team's best defender by the worst D coach on the worst D team. Sure he tried and was likeable, but was awful at NBA bball
Bilas and every other expert the night of that draft was saying “solid starter” was his best case scenario.
Ugh.
Horford to opt out: Both sides hopeful to work out a new deal - ( New Window )
umm maybe you should refresh twitter..
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umm maybe you should refresh twitter..
Interesting. I hadn't seen this latest update.
Horford is on the hunt for a championship, and with the C's failing to land AD... doesn't look like that's in the cards with Boston.
Where might Horford end up? He'd be an amazing add for a team like Houston... although I haven't studied if they could afford him. Al might be willing to take a discount for a title chance, though.
This is spot on. The Celtics sat on their assets and were not aggressive & may have missed their window.
I love seeing this. And hopefully can stop hearing about Boston’s “treasure chest of assets”.
What happened to the Celts is that Kyrie just went off the deep end & torpedoed their season/immediate future. If he planned on staying in Boston, you sure as hell can bet AD is a Celtic right now, not a Laker. Also, they did get screwed with that Rose Rule. They would have gotten AD this winter.
I'm not crying for the Celts, but I think they'll still be good next year. A top 3 or 4 team in the East? Probably not, but I don't think they're going to fall off that much. Losing Kyrie will eliminate a lot of the drama surrounding them. Tatum, Brown, Hayward Scary Terry, Smart, etc. are all good pieces. It'll be interesting to see what happens with Horford. He's invaluable.
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I know it's a small sample but he shot the lights out.
Also if we do draft Ja or Garland. Can we move DSJ and/or Frank for a late teens first?
How many successful 6'2 175 2 guards are there in the league currently?
Trae Young, Lou Williams, kemba Walker, De’Aaron Fox, Mike Conley, Darren collison, DJ Augustin... there are a bunch of successful undersized score first PG in the league. That was a bad example, try that again.
They went to two conference championships, made a play for Irving, and lured Hayward.
They couldn't get by LeBron, and frankly weren't going to get smoked by the Warriors.
Irving doesn't want to be there, and Horford is a good, not max player.
It's time for the Celtics to retool around Tatum, Brown, Smart, Hayward, and possibly Rozier.
If Celtics don't keep Rozier they very well may land Russell.