Woj this morning said the idea is to have kyrie and another star if that doesnt happen, he thinks they just keep russell..
If Kyrie still wants to come to the Knicks with Durant- Im all for it. Even if the Knicks get Durant , I just think its going to be difficult to acquire a true star in the next couple years. 2020 free agent class is pretty bad. Whos the next big star available? Now until 2020, the only stars I could see traded are Conley, Holiday and Beal. But things could always change...
The Knicks are in a tough spot. If they get Durant, id try to sign a couple younger guys as well - i.e Brogdon. But is it better to keep the cap space or overpay to get a couple guys?
Better to keep the space. Unless you can get a guy who emerges like Oladipo or like Harden did when he went to Rockets from Thunder.
The nightmare scenario for all Knicks fans should be signing someone like Khris Middleton to a max contract.
They're not handing out a max contract to a nobody.
However, salaries are exploding, so expect to see the Knicks sign role players to contract that are bigger than you've seen before. 33 year old Horford opted out of 30m a year because he can get more.
This offseason is going to change what an average contract is across the league for non-stars.
When Knicks went after Lebron, they traded away draft picks to clear cap space.
Now they have cleared space by trading POrzingas for Dallas' two picks.
So they are in much better shape because they have options. Donnie basically had no choice but to sign Amare because he had no draft picks to build with.
But now knicks don't have to sign an "Amare" because they have 5 first rounders over the next three years. PLus, the #3 pick this year. I also think the situation in Dallas has the potential to deteriorate and those picks might wind up being better than expected.
But the point is the Knicks have options that they did not have after they "lost out" on Lebron.
comes from Free Agency. They have to spend responsibly. If they don't land a big fish, give out short year deals. If people don't want to take them, don't add more years on. Just wait it out. If you overpay a person on a one year deal, it's fine, but overpaying for multiple years with mediocre talent is what got us THJr, etc. Not bad talent, but overpaying with no flexibility is a death sentence for bottom tier teams.
It seems obvious teams are testing whether this is the usual Knicks or not. The usual Knicks would have made that trade and may have made the trade with the Hawks too.
Not sure I agree that he's a better athlete than Reddick. He's also not shown himself to be as good a shooter.
Redick shot better from three as a freshman while Herro was a better free throw shooter. The major difference is Herro was far better scoring around the basket. I think he can be projected to shoot well from three point range with a more diverse offensive game as opposed to JJ's just catch and shoot.
While Darius Garland could be someone people within the Knicks organization like, the expectation among agents and opposing execs on Wednesday afternoon is that New York will select Duke's RJ Barrett if he's available at No. 3, per
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"According to an NBA source, some members of the Knicks organization think Garland could turn out to be a better NBA player than RJ Barrett but regard the Duke swingman as the safe pick at 3 and remains the likely selection.
I think the workout gave them something to think about, the source said.
Theres potential for the Knicks to trade down to four with New Orleans, where the Pelicans would seek to reunite Barrett with Zion Williamson. It could depend on what the Pelicans are offering."
If the Pelicans gave the Knicks their top 3 protected first round pick in next year's draft and the Knicks don't feel that strong about Barrett, I would swap.
another team looking to shed salary with their first
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Oklahoma City has increased its efforts this afternoon to shed salary along with the No. 21 pick en route to dodging luxury tax, league sources say. Steven Adams, Andre Roberson, Dennis Schroeder all very available at the moment.
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Great defender, but among the biggest offensive black holes on O. Like playing 4-5
Not advocating for Roberson the basketball player but Roberson's contract + the 21st pick.
Fair enough. I'm not that aware of contract situations. In that sense from those 3, I'd rather Schroeder, but again it would depend on cost for trade & contract
Still I'd bet there's other better "contract + pick" situations than Roberson, even on other teams
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Vanderbilt guard Darius Garland had his workout with the Knicks today, but New York remains locked on selecting Dukes RJ Barrett with the NBA Drafts third overall pick on Thursday, league sources tell ESPN.
Beck said the Knicks "made overtures" to AD for 2020 free agency
knowing they didn't have the ammo to get him via trade. I think it's a lock he stays in LA, but it does point towards the Knicks saving some cap space for next summer. Probably pursue KD and some one year deals or expirings via trade.
Mavs the favorites to sign Horford, says Kevin O'Connor of the Ringer.
I wouldnt be so quick to nix the idea. If they strike out in free agency, getting a draft pick in exchange for taking his contract would be fine. He doesnt have to stay on the roster - just release him.
RE: Mavs the favorites to sign Horford, says Kevin O'Connor of the Ringer.
If LBJ does not let AD be the man in LA, it is not a slam dunk he stays.
I just like to hear the Knicks seem to be keeping themselives flexible, will be very interesting to see what KD does: I think FA looks like this right now:
If LBJ does not let AD be the man in LA, it is not a slam dunk he stays.
I just like to hear the Knicks seem to be keeping themselives flexible, will be very interesting to see what KD does: I think FA looks like this right now:
I don't think NYK is out of it for Kyrie. He seems pretty set on a NY team, and LAL doesn't have enough for a max right now. There were some rumblings even today that NJ doesn't even want Kyrie if he doesn't come with someone else.
If LBJ does not let AD be the man in LA, it is not a slam dunk he stays.
I just like to hear the Knicks seem to be keeping themselives flexible, will be very interesting to see what KD does: I think FA looks like this right now:
I don't think NYK is out of it for Kyrie. He seems pretty set on a NY team, and LAL doesn't have enough for a max right now. There were some rumblings even today that NJ doesn't even want Kyrie if he doesn't come with someone else.
Jon - you might be right, I have just not heard much around Kyrie and the Knicks. He is a strange guy.
RE: RE: Mavs the favorites to sign Horford, says Kevin O'Connor of the Ringer.
The Knicks medical staff is not helping them right now. Scottie Pippen killed them on ESPN the other day and all the Porzingis stuff did not help either.
The Knicks medical staff is not helping them right now. Scottie Pippen killed them on ESPN the other day and all the Porzingis stuff did not help either.
Guys drop like flies - basketball doesn't have a rep of being a physical game, but it takes its toll. I'm not doubting your info, but I have a hard time pinning anything on the Knicks training staff.
The Knicks medical staff is not helping them right now. Scottie Pippen killed them on ESPN the other day and all the Porzingis stuff did not help either.
This seems like one of those Knick narratives that's likely got no substance to it.
The Knicks medical staff is not helping them right now. Scottie Pippen killed them on ESPN the other day and all the Porzingis stuff did not help either.
Did Pippen also mention how it was all kps plan and he never planned on playing this year?
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Woj this morning said the idea is to have kyrie and another star if that doesnt happen, he thinks they just keep russell..
If Kyrie still wants to come to the Knicks with Durant- Im all for it. Even if the Knicks get Durant , I just think its going to be difficult to acquire a true star in the next couple years. 2020 free agent class is pretty bad. Whos the next big star available? Now until 2020, the only stars I could see traded are Conley, Holiday and Beal. But things could always change...
The Knicks are in a tough spot. If they get Durant, id try to sign a couple younger guys as well - i.e Brogdon. But is it better to keep the cap space or overpay to get a couple guys?
Better to keep the space. Unless you can get a guy who emerges like Oladipo or like Harden did when he went to Rockets from Thunder.
The nightmare scenario for all Knicks fans should be signing someone like Khris Middleton to a max contract.
This offseason is going to change what an average contract is across the league for non-stars.
Now they have cleared space by trading POrzingas for Dallas' two picks.
So they are in much better shape because they have options. Donnie basically had no choice but to sign Amare because he had no draft picks to build with.
But now knicks don't have to sign an "Amare" because they have 5 first rounders over the next three years. PLus, the #3 pick this year. I also think the situation in Dallas has the potential to deteriorate and those picks might wind up being better than expected.
But the point is the Knicks have options that they did not have after they "lost out" on Lebron.
He's a better athlete than JJ Reddick, who consistently finds himself starting on 50+ win teams. It's a shooting league and this kid can shoot.
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He's smart and a worker but really limited athletically. He's gonna have some trouble on defense.
He's a better athlete than JJ Reddick, who consistently finds himself starting on 50+ win teams. It's a shooting league and this kid can shoot.
Not sure I agree that he's a better athlete than Reddick. He's also not shown himself to be as good a shooter.
That's definitely the top tier of awful contracts. Wiggins is the other one I'd put up there with those two.
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The Rockets recently explored trading Chris Paul into New Yorks cap space, but the Knicks refused, according to league sources.
I'm so proud of Scott Perry. If Isiah was running this team, Paul would be a Knick and Barrett would be a Rocket.
Not sure I agree that he's a better athlete than Reddick. He's also not shown himself to be as good a shooter.
Redick shot better from three as a freshman while Herro was a better free throw shooter. The major difference is Herro was far better scoring around the basket. I think he can be projected to shoot well from three point range with a more diverse offensive game as opposed to JJ's just catch and shoot.
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While Darius Garland could be someone people within the Knicks organization like, the expectation among agents and opposing execs on Wednesday afternoon is that New York will select Duke's RJ Barrett if he's available at No. 3, per
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I think the workout gave them something to think about, the source said.
Theres potential for the Knicks to trade down to four with New Orleans, where the Pelicans would seek to reunite Barrett with Zion Williamson. It could depend on what the Pelicans are offering."
He's a great shooter. There really is a lot to like there. I think it's worth a call to the Pelicans.
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Oklahoma City has increased its efforts this afternoon to shed salary along with the No. 21 pick en route to dodging luxury tax, league sources say. Steven Adams, Andre Roberson, Dennis Schroeder all very available at the moment.
Not advocating for Roberson the basketball player but Roberson's contract + the 21st pick.
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Great defender, but among the biggest offensive black holes on O. Like playing 4-5
Not advocating for Roberson the basketball player but Roberson's contract + the 21st pick.
Fair enough. I'm not that aware of contract situations. In that sense from those 3, I'd rather Schroeder, but again it would depend on cost for trade & contract
Still I'd bet there's other better "contract + pick" situations than Roberson, even on other teams
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Vanderbilt guard Darius Garland had his workout with the Knicks today, but New York remains locked on selecting Dukes RJ Barrett with the NBA Drafts third overall pick on Thursday, league sources tell ESPN.
have to appease kp
I just like to hear the Knicks seem to be keeping themselives flexible, will be very interesting to see what KD does: I think FA looks like this right now:
KD: GS/NYK/Brooklyn
Kyrie: LAL/Brooklyn
Kawhi: LAC/Toronto
Klay: GS
Horford: Dallas/Brooklyn/LAL
Butler: Philly/LAL
Middleton: Bucks
I just like to hear the Knicks seem to be keeping themselives flexible, will be very interesting to see what KD does: I think FA looks like this right now:
KD: GS/NYK/Brooklyn
Kyrie: LAL/Brooklyn
Kawhi: LAC/Toronto
Klay: GS
Horford: Dallas/Brooklyn/LAL
Butler: Philly/LAL
Middleton: Bucks
I don't think NYK is out of it for Kyrie. He seems pretty set on a NY team, and LAL doesn't have enough for a max right now. There were some rumblings even today that NJ doesn't even want Kyrie if he doesn't come with someone else.
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If LBJ does not let AD be the man in LA, it is not a slam dunk he stays.
I just like to hear the Knicks seem to be keeping themselives flexible, will be very interesting to see what KD does: I think FA looks like this right now:
KD: GS/NYK/Brooklyn
Kyrie: LAL/Brooklyn
Kawhi: LAC/Toronto
Klay: GS
Horford: Dallas/Brooklyn/LAL
Butler: Philly/LAL
Middleton: Bucks
I don't think NYK is out of it for Kyrie. He seems pretty set on a NY team, and LAL doesn't have enough for a max right now. There were some rumblings even today that NJ doesn't even want Kyrie if he doesn't come with someone else.
Jon - you might be right, I have just not heard much around Kyrie and the Knicks. He is a strange guy.
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Should be a fun few weeks.
have to appease kp
The Post today brought up the idea of the Nets signing Porzingis to an offer sheet
Dont see how that would possibly occur though.
Nets are looking like they might be edging closer to running it back this year.
Again, I think both Brooklyn and KP have wanted each other for a while. Its unclear how that would happen. Right now, theres no path.
What did he reference?
This seems like one of those Knick narratives that's likely got no substance to it.
Did Pippen also mention how it was all kps plan and he never planned on playing this year?
That would be a good haul for the Pelicans and would bring Garland and RJ to NY.