but I can understand why people think he should be the third pick overall. The upside is there, but I think the most likely scenario for him is that he is a solid starter in the league, not an all star, which is fine. I have seen most RJ's college games and I fear he can be stopped at the next level if his outside game does not dramatically improve. I think Garland is intriguing but I have not seen enough of him to make a solid comparison. However, and maybe this is a pet peeve of mine, but I hate when people say we should draft Barrett third because he was supposed to be the number one pick before last year's draft. Well, you know what, we had a year of watching him play and two players surpassed him; if he stayed one more year, in next year's draft should a team pick him 6th because he would have been the third pick this year? The argument makes no sense at all.
What do you think of Zion's outside shot holding him back? To my eye Zion's outside game is significantly worse than RJ's.
Zion is the biggest risk reward guy I have ever seen. Zion's outside game was putrid (although it did come on a bit after he came back from his knee and he hit some three pointers). Look,if Zion can physically dominate like he did in college in the NBA, he is going to be a superstar. If he can't, he might be a bust. I tend to think he will physically dominate, but anyone who really thinks they know for sure are full of shite.
Couldn’t agree more. I lean towards yes, Zion will dominate in the pros but no one knows for sure. My theory is to never turn your back on a player that does whatever the fuck he wants out there. I’d always draft that guy and go down swinging. Zion is too special to pass up. Guys like him usually figure everything out as they go. Too good to fail.
“NOLA, I’m told, is assembling assets in all out effort to leapfrog Knicks into second slot in order to snare RJ Barrett. Obviously, Pels are offering Grizz No 4 pick as part payment. No pity parties planned. NY would land Morant or Garland. Memphis would pluck point that drops...” Link - ( New Window )
That Barrett will not end up in the knicks, someone will trade ahead or Memphis will take him. Whenever this alleged guarantees are out there in the public it never seems to workout for the knicks. I understand many people prefer morant anyway, but I am not as high on him as others. I could actually see the knicks taking garland over morant. Hopefully they would trade down to #4 in that scenario.
There's a gaping hole in their lineup. It would not make any sense to trade out when they could just take Morant. Its who they were reported to want in the first place.
There's a gaping hole in their lineup. It would not make any sense to trade out when they could just take Morant. Its who they were reported to want in the first place.
True, but this is a 33 win team that has now traded away its two best players. They’re in rebuild mode and have gaping holes everywhere. Position shouldn’t even be a consideration for them, just getting the best talent should. Even on talent Morant would seem like the pick, but maybe they’re worried about his knee and want a surer thing. We’ll see.
1. Planted the seed w/ AD that we'll be in on 2020 big time
2. "Thanks for the call. No to CP3" <click>
Many old Knick regimes would not have done either correctly! However obvious. Still just a small positive for now...but more in the W column for this franchise fwiw
likely doesn't even know what he's referencing himself:
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Pete44 : 6/19/2019 5:38 pm : link : reply
The Knicks medical staff is not helping them right now. Scottie Pippen killed them on ESPN the other day and all the Porzingis stuff did not help either.
Their medical "staff" is HSS, which serves most of the NYC area teams.
If he's referring to their training staff, they have one of the more respected groups in the NBA. Roger Hinds has been a trainer in the NBA for 22 years. And he also has experience in S&C:
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Hinds served as strength and conditioning coach for the gold medal-winning U.S. Olympic Team at the 1996 Atlanta Games. From 2001-2004, he served as president of the National Basketball Athletic Trainers’ Association Foundation. Roger currently serves as liaison between the Trainers Association and the NATA. He was honored to receive the Bill Chisolm Ethnic Diversity Award from the NATA at the 2015 annual meeting.
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but I can understand why people think he should be the third pick overall. The upside is there, but I think the most likely scenario for him is that he is a solid starter in the league, not an all star, which is fine. I have seen most RJ's college games and I fear he can be stopped at the next level if his outside game does not dramatically improve. I think Garland is intriguing but I have not seen enough of him to make a solid comparison. However, and maybe this is a pet peeve of mine, but I hate when people say we should draft Barrett third because he was supposed to be the number one pick before last year's draft. Well, you know what, we had a year of watching him play and two players surpassed him; if he stayed one more year, in next year's draft should a team pick him 6th because he would have been the third pick this year? The argument makes no sense at all.
What do you think of Zion's outside shot holding him back? To my eye Zion's outside game is significantly worse than RJ's.
Zion is the biggest risk reward guy I have ever seen. Zion's outside game was putrid (although it did come on a bit after he came back from his knee and he hit some three pointers). Look,if Zion can physically dominate like he did in college in the NBA, he is going to be a superstar. If he can't, he might be a bust. I tend to think he will physically dominate, but anyone who really thinks they know for sure are full of shite.
Couldn’t agree more. I lean towards yes, Zion will dominate in the pros but no one knows for sure. My theory is to never turn your back on a player that does whatever the fuck he wants out there. I’d always draft that guy and go down swinging. Zion is too special to pass up. Guys like him usually figure everything out as they go. Too good to fail.
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True, but this is a 33 win team that has now traded away its two best players. They’re in rebuild mode and have gaping holes everywhere. Position shouldn’t even be a consideration for them, just getting the best talent should. Even on talent Morant would seem like the pick, but maybe they’re worried about his knee and want a surer thing. We’ll see.
2. "Thanks for the call. No to CP3" <click>
Many old Knick regimes would not have done either correctly! However obvious. Still just a small positive for now...but more in the W column for this franchise fwiw
Pete44 : 6/19/2019 5:38 pm : link : reply
The Knicks medical staff is not helping them right now. Scottie Pippen killed them on ESPN the other day and all the Porzingis stuff did not help either.
Their medical "staff" is HSS, which serves most of the NYC area teams.
If he's referring to their training staff, they have one of the more respected groups in the NBA. Roger Hinds has been a trainer in the NBA for 22 years. And he also has experience in S&C:
So happy The Knicks told them to go pound sand