First time, let this go by. This time: no, we wouldn't all be happy if CC'd been pitching as badly as Happ was.
Bullshit. If CC put that up this game we'd all be happy. It is about as good as you are getting from CC.
You can curse all you want, but CC still throws with authority and where hitters don't get to it. Happ doesn't. Seven hits in four? No, no one would be happy -- except with the score. Not with the pitcher.
First time, let this go by. This time: no, we wouldn't all be happy if CC'd been pitching as badly as Happ was.
Bullshit. If CC put that up this game we'd all be happy. It is about as good as you are getting from CC.
He moved the goal posts from this game to the whole season. Obviously, if CC was pitching to a 4.5 ERA and only going 5 innings that'd be a problem. Of course, CC's value is that despite going only 5, his ERA is under 4. Happ is a different kind of pitcher. He offers more length. So, it's an apples and oranges comparison in some ways.
First time, let this go by. This time: no, we wouldn't all be happy if CC'd been pitching as badly as Happ was.
Bullshit. If CC put that up this game we'd all be happy. It is about as good as you are getting from CC.
You can curse all you want, but CC still throws with authority and where hitters don't get to it. Happ doesn't. Seven hits in four? No, no one would be happy -- except with the score. Not with the pitcher.
CC never gets above 88/89. Throws with authority? He lives on the corners, throws junk up and down, in and out. He barely gets out of 5 innings and sometimes makes it into the 6th.
What Happ threw tonight was CC numbers.
better than what he has been. He has gotten better. But should be a lot better. Big drop off from Tanaka and Paxton to where Happ has been.
It goes back to what FMiC said - reading the thread it sounds like he got torched when he had about three hard hit balls and over half his hits were dribblers and off the label. He gave up no walks.
Maybin within the next week. No way they'll get rid of Gardner who is a lifer and starting to hit. He is still the better OF than Maybin. But damn it is close.
Maybin within the next week. No way they'll get rid of Gardner who is a lifer and starting to hit. He is still the better OF than Maybin. But damn it is close.
Gardner retires a Yankee. He has speed, defense and he hits left. That plays more important off the bench than Maybin.
3) Some very good players are starting back ( Didi, Hicks, Stanton, Judge).
4) Some hard working guys who want to be Yankees are playing big to be Yankees
5) The key is to analyze which is more like a 4th or 5th pitcher? The choices are our 4th or 5th pitcher?
Jumped on the thread late after enjoying most of this one, and this brought a laugh, well played sir.
Nice to see EE with his first bomb...and he could barely contain his smile at his first Yankee HR...and realizing what he can do hitting it to RF in this park.
If only the Yanks could get rid of Stanton and his ludicrous contract Â
There are many reasons everyone hates our fanbase. One of them is people who cry when great players aren't perfect or go through down spells.
The haters are incorrigible. We're in first place! We just won! We have five 30 home run guys in the middle of line up. Can we all just be a little bit happy?
I checked his stats and he's been playing in MLB since 2007(!) when he was only 20(!!) and he's only 32. I doubt this is one of those "tools guy finally puts things together" scenarios but maybe he can turn into a league-average or above-league-average player. Guy sure has put his time in.
I dunno...its a fun team for a fan to root for. Seems like a good team, good clubhouse, lots of contributors, a rebound season by the Kraken and Britton, some cool seasons by easy to root for guys and we get to see some under the radar pros show up ( Urshela, Maybin, Maple, DJ)
I dunno...its a fun team for a fan to root for. Seems like a good team, good clubhouse, lots of contributors, a rebound season by the Kraken and Britton, some cool seasons by easy to root for guys and we get to see some under the radar pros show up ( Urshela, Maybin, Maple, DJ)
the best part of BBI for over 14 years are my fellow Yankee posters and threads.
For several of those years the Yankees were not fun to root for. Now they are. Just in time because some recent Giants years have been unwatchable football.
This recent Yankee surge have been the most likeable Yankee teams to root for. And I learned the game listening on the radio to the Mantle Maris HR race with my grandfather.
So CC or Happ? eh? We need 4th and 5th pitchers. All of them are frustrating for their teams. Two vets doing their best
Deivi Gracia K's 15 (!!!) through 6 innings, allowing 1 hit and 1 walk tonight. 19 years old in AA. He did let 4 guys put the ball in play in 6 innings though....so I suppose he needs a bit more work.
I dunno...its a fun team for a fan to root for. Seems like a good team, good clubhouse, lots of contributors, a rebound season by the Kraken and Britton, some cool seasons by easy to root for guys and we get to see some under the radar pros show up ( Urshela, Maybin, Maple, DJ)
And you as well Bill...I agree with you that Yankee threads are amongst BBI's best. For the most part, very knowledgeable Yankee fans here, well read/informed and with a long history following the team.
My earliest memory of watching baseball is seeing my Dad go nuts watching the Dodgers come back to win the 81 Series. Fernandomania...blech.
Compared the 80s and the height of George's madness, this is a most likable team and org to root for and follow. Sure, we all know we may still be a #1 starter short of beating the Astros (or Sox if they hit their stride) in the playoffs, but the future is bright for the next decade at least.
As to the debate about Happ and CC...the real issue is we expected Sevy to give us a very strong top 3 with Tanaka and Paxton...Happ and CC plus starter depth should be a competitive rotation.
Sevy's lingering injury is the biggest blow IMO, not the fact Happ is just OK and CC's almost done.
Will be an interesting trade deadline, that's for sure
last night...I thought I heard a smattering after the AB in the 8th.
This is pretty pathetic. Stanton and Judge will both be "off" for several games because of the layoff. It doesn't come back instantly. Stanton Booed already - ( New Window )
Nice to see Eddy get his first Parrot Walk in already.
I didn't realize that we don't have options on Hale - I thought we'd be able to run a shuttle with he and Cortes in order to keep Maybin up.
I'd honestly still just DFA Cessa. If someone claims him, whatever.
There's no guarantee everyone will stay healthy in the OF - Stanton or Judge could aggravate something, Hicks' back could flare back up... who knows.
It's not as conventional to keep the 4th bench guy, but I'd still do it here for Maybin because you can use him late in games on the bases or in the field.
I think the Yanks will still keep Maybin - they'll likely just option Cortes and go from there. Nestor has actually been pretty valuable for us - he's soaked up innings in games where we've really needed someone to do so, and he's pitched pretty darn well in the process. He'll be back. But, there's no chance Maybin gets through if they go the DFA route there and they know that - so, I don't think they'll expose him.
Not a bad one for Happ last night. I'll gladly take that.
The Stanton booing is ludicrous - but there are morons in every fan base. It's, unfortunately, not a surprise at all.
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First time, let this go by. This time: no, we wouldn't all be happy if CC'd been pitching as badly as Happ was.
Bullshit. If CC put that up this game we'd all be happy. It is about as good as you are getting from CC.
You can curse all you want, but CC still throws with authority and where hitters don't get to it. Happ doesn't. Seven hits in four? No, no one would be happy -- except with the score. Not with the pitcher.
As he saves the HR streak again.
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First time, let this go by. This time: no, we wouldn't all be happy if CC'd been pitching as badly as Happ was.
Bullshit. If CC put that up this game we'd all be happy. It is about as good as you are getting from CC.
He moved the goal posts from this game to the whole season. Obviously, if CC was pitching to a 4.5 ERA and only going 5 innings that'd be a problem. Of course, CC's value is that despite going only 5, his ERA is under 4. Happ is a different kind of pitcher. He offers more length. So, it's an apples and oranges comparison in some ways.
Yankees wont because of what Gardner is being paid but Maybin is a better player currently
Meanwhile, Minnesota pushes one across in the 8th...
Win! Twins!
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First time, let this go by. This time: no, we wouldn't all be happy if CC'd been pitching as badly as Happ was.
Bullshit. If CC put that up this game we'd all be happy. It is about as good as you are getting from CC.
You can curse all you want, but CC still throws with authority and where hitters don't get to it. Happ doesn't. Seven hits in four? No, no one would be happy -- except with the score. Not with the pitcher.
CC never gets above 88/89. Throws with authority? He lives on the corners, throws junk up and down, in and out. He barely gets out of 5 innings and sometimes makes it into the 6th.
What Happ threw tonight was CC numbers.
To be fair, I can't disagree with this.
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I misread your post (missed the 'd=had). Still though, CC is maxing out at 90 pitches some nights. It's not a great comparison.
To be fair, I can't disagree with this.
I mean about CC.
2nd deck bomb.
1) we are beating the second place team
2) Boston is losing
3) Some very good players are starting back ( Didi, Hicks, Stanton, Judge).
4) Some hard working guys who want to be Yankees are playing big to be Yankees
5) The key is to analyze which is more like a 4th or 5th pitcher? The choices are our 4th or 5th pitcher?
It goes back to what FMiC said - reading the thread it sounds like he got torched when he had about three hard hit balls and over half his hits were dribblers and off the label. He gave up no walks.
Superb play!
6-3
Gardner retires a Yankee. He has speed, defense and he hits left. That plays more important off the bench than Maybin.
1) we are beating the second place team
2) Boston is losing
3) Some very good players are starting back ( Didi, Hicks, Stanton, Judge).
4) Some hard working guys who want to be Yankees are playing big to be Yankees
5) The key is to analyze which is more like a 4th or 5th pitcher? The choices are our 4th or 5th pitcher?
Jumped on the thread late after enjoying most of this one, and this brought a laugh, well played sir.
Nice to see EE with his first bomb...and he could barely contain his smile at his first Yankee HR...and realizing what he can do hitting it to RF in this park.
Well done.
Well done.
That was the sharpest he’s looked in a while. Not only throwing his old heat, but with command. Good sign.
I share the crowds Maybin love...wish we could go with 12 pitchers to keep him and Gardy.
The haters are incorrigible. We're in first place! We just won! We have five 30 home run guys in the middle of line up. Can we all just be a little bit happy?
And great win Jints! You're rolling again!
Hope you are well mfsd.
I dunno...its a fun team for a fan to root for. Seems like a good team, good clubhouse, lots of contributors, a rebound season by the Kraken and Britton, some cool seasons by easy to root for guys and we get to see some under the radar pros show up ( Urshela, Maybin, Maple, DJ)
Hope you are well mfsd.
I dunno...its a fun team for a fan to root for. Seems like a good team, good clubhouse, lots of contributors, a rebound season by the Kraken and Britton, some cool seasons by easy to root for guys and we get to see some under the radar pros show up ( Urshela, Maybin, Maple, DJ)
Silent assassin. Touche...I can laugh at that.
For several of those years the Yankees were not fun to root for. Now they are. Just in time because some recent Giants years have been unwatchable football.
This recent Yankee surge have been the most likeable Yankee teams to root for. And I learned the game listening on the radio to the Mantle Maris HR race with my grandfather.
So CC or Happ? eh? We need 4th and 5th pitchers. All of them are frustrating for their teams. Two vets doing their best
Cause when Judge comes back there is no real role for him.
There are fans who just are miserable. They take out the frustrations in their own lives and shortcomings onto players.
Hope you are well mfsd.
I dunno...its a fun team for a fan to root for. Seems like a good team, good clubhouse, lots of contributors, a rebound season by the Kraken and Britton, some cool seasons by easy to root for guys and we get to see some under the radar pros show up ( Urshela, Maybin, Maple, DJ)
And you as well Bill...I agree with you that Yankee threads are amongst BBI's best. For the most part, very knowledgeable Yankee fans here, well read/informed and with a long history following the team.
My earliest memory of watching baseball is seeing my Dad go nuts watching the Dodgers come back to win the 81 Series. Fernandomania...blech.
Compared the 80s and the height of George's madness, this is a most likable team and org to root for and follow. Sure, we all know we may still be a #1 starter short of beating the Astros (or Sox if they hit their stride) in the playoffs, but the future is bright for the next decade at least.
As to the debate about Happ and CC...the real issue is we expected Sevy to give us a very strong top 3 with Tanaka and Paxton...Happ and CC plus starter depth should be a competitive rotation.
Sevy's lingering injury is the biggest blow IMO, not the fact Happ is just OK and CC's almost done.
Will be an interesting trade deadline, that's for sure
This is pretty pathetic. Stanton and Judge will both be "off" for several games because of the layoff. It doesn't come back instantly.
Stanton Booed already - ( New Window )
I didn't realize that we don't have options on Hale - I thought we'd be able to run a shuttle with he and Cortes in order to keep Maybin up.
I'd honestly still just DFA Cessa. If someone claims him, whatever.
There's no guarantee everyone will stay healthy in the OF - Stanton or Judge could aggravate something, Hicks' back could flare back up... who knows.
It's not as conventional to keep the 4th bench guy, but I'd still do it here for Maybin because you can use him late in games on the bases or in the field.
I think the Yanks will still keep Maybin - they'll likely just option Cortes and go from there. Nestor has actually been pretty valuable for us - he's soaked up innings in games where we've really needed someone to do so, and he's pitched pretty darn well in the process. He'll be back. But, there's no chance Maybin gets through if they go the DFA route there and they know that - so, I don't think they'll expose him.
Not a bad one for Happ last night. I'll gladly take that.
The Stanton booing is ludicrous - but there are morons in every fan base. It's, unfortunately, not a surprise at all.
Let's get another W today.
Interestingly enough, it was former Yankee farmhand Zach Littell who got the win.