I'd make one small change....swap Hicks and DJ. Hicks is slumping now but historically has the higher OBP....and DJ would get lots of opportunities to hit with men in RISP in the slot behind Voit.
When you look at this lineup you can see why the Yanks didn't really need either Harper or Machado. And just think about trying to squeeze Andujar in there if he was healthy!
I'd make one small change....swap Hicks and DJ. Hicks is slumping now but historically has the higher OBP....and DJ would get lots of opportunities to hit with men in RISP in the slot behind Voit.
When you look at this lineup you can see why the Yanks didn't really need either Harper or Machado. And just think about trying to squeeze Andujar in there if he was healthy!
Yeah I actually thought about that. The better OBP hits higher and then the guy with the better average gets to hit with more runners on. Makes sense.
"Dellin Betances says he is still feeling symptoms in his lat, which he describes as a "low-grade" strain that's less severe than the one Luis Severino is working back from. Not playing catch or throwing yet."
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Not even playing catch or throwing yet. Jesus Christ. Any century now, bro.
Montgomery's bullpen session today was shut down midway due to discomfort.
Ugh.
Really hope they make a move for a pitcher like Bumgarner/Scherzer or even Bauer/Stroman at the very least.
Bauer at the very least? Hes one of the top 10-15 pitchers in the game today. It would be a tremendous add.
Ive always liked Stromans makeup and profile, but I am leery of buying right now. Most metrics indicate that the results have been better than the stuff this season (i.e. luck has been in his favor). Not that I wouldnt want him, but the price/timing factor...
Assuming Scherzer isnt a realistic possibility, my personal preference in order would be:
Montgomery's bullpen session today was shut down midway due to discomfort.
Ugh.
Really hope they make a move for a pitcher like Bumgarner/Scherzer or even Bauer/Stroman at the very least.
Bauer at the very least? Hes one of the top 10-15 pitchers in the game today. It would be a tremendous add.
Ive always liked Stromans makeup and profile, but I am leery of buying right now. Most metrics indicate that the results have been better than the stuff this season (i.e. luck has been in his favor). Not that I wouldnt want him, but the price/timing factor...
Assuming Scherzer isnt a realistic possibility, my personal preference in order would be:
Bauer
Boyd
Wheeler
Stroman
MadBum
I meant Bauer "at the very least" since I don't think its a real possibility because the Indians are still in the WC race and he has one more year of arbitration before FA, so the asking price will be astronomical...
He is obviously a top talent, there is no doubting that. It was probably a poor choice of words on my part.
Bauer is certainly a tops front of the rotation guy, but top 10? In all of baseball? In the American league maybe...
He was elite last year, and seems well above average this year. And he's a clutch bastard. But his best finish in Cy Young was 6. He's not even the best pitcher on his own team. Unless, we're writing off Kluber because of 7 games...
And Bauer is such a fucking asshole. Ugh. I'd simultaneously love and hate if we got him.
Scherzer
DeGrom
Cole
Verlander
Kershaw
Sale
Snell
Greinke
Ive got him basically even with Kluber (maybe edge to a healthy Kluber but age/recency still keeps it close for me), Snell, Berrios, Buehler, Severino (healthy).
Reasonable minds can disagree but Im very comfortable standing by top 10-15
I'd have to think that Frazier plus Andujar plus a non-blue/red chip
prospect gets you Bauer. Maybe I have Yankees-colored glasses on here, but Andujar proved he's an above-average major-league hitter across an entire season and Frazier sure looks like an average (at worst) major league hitter. But maybe I'm biased.
I guess I'm just a little nervous calling a guy top 10-15 who only has one elite year and a bunch of average/above average years. I trust your judgment more than mine though.
RE: I'd have to think that Frazier plus Andujar plus a non-blue/red chip
prospect gets you Bauer. Maybe I have Yankees-colored glasses on here, but Andujar proved he's an above-average major-league hitter across an entire season and Frazier sure looks like an average (at worst) major league hitter. But maybe I'm biased.
I tend to agree. I was thinking Frazier/Andujar/prospects (maybe Lasagna as another 'name') should be plenty (two potential all stars and some lotto tickets for a SP) to land nearly any starter. But I was curious about section's thoughts since he seems to think it'll take a bit more for Bauer.
prospect gets you Bauer. Maybe I have Yankees-colored glasses on here, but Andujar proved he's an above-average major-league hitter across an entire season and Frazier sure looks like an average (at worst) major league hitter. But maybe I'm biased.
I think thatd get it done pretty quickly. Bauer is a UFA whos let it be known hes not signing contracts for term and intends to go year to year. Cleveland is so budget constrained that I could actually see them declining to offer Bauer a QO out of fear that he actually signs it (mostly joking). Surely there would be some other bidders, but...
Astros - could and might outbid a Frazier/Andujar package.
Rays - maybe.
Minny - really nice farm, but running near the top of their budget already, and does Cleveland prefer not to help out a division rival?
Boston - cant compete w that package without making their pro roster worse.
Dodgers - maybe, but seem likely to focus on bullpen
Atlanta - prospects galore, but very budget-minded. Feels unlikely they give up big prospects for a rental.
A rumor about the Yanks trading Frazier/Andujar for Bauer. Don't know shit about baseball, but figured I'd pass it along.
It would probably take more to get Bauer.
Section, I'm curious what you think a package would look like that could land Bauer...
And then compare that with what we'd need to land Stroman...
Indians are not out of the race, so Bauer is going nowhere anytime soon.
If he was available I think you need at least a lower level pitcher added. Neither Andujar nor Frazier are MLB fielders at this point. I think Frazier certainly can be and Andujar may need to go to 1B or corner OF.
I also don't think Bauer fits in NYC if you see the shitstorm Frazier raised by not talking to the media, what would happen to his shtick. I like Bauer's stuff, but he doubtfully fits that locker room.
(IMHO)!
Judge says he's "100%" - will play two 9 inning games @ SWB and then he's back.
I don't think he'll actually be 100% at any point until next year, and it's player speak, but still... even Judge being a little less than 100% is a big addition.
especially with RISP, so you'd bat him 8th? Not now, I would have Hicks 7th or 8th until he starts to hit. He is pressing.
If DJLM is a RISP machine, then why would you bat him leadoff where he's guaranteed to come up with the bases empty on his first AB every night? And after that, hitting being the 8-9 hitters, who will likely have the lowest OBP's of the team? Wouldn't it make more sense to hit him after a bunch of guys with high OBP's?
there seem to be a lot more Ed Whitson or Sonny Gray bombs. I'd hate to trade Frank Robinson for Milt Pappas. I like our hitters named Andujar and Frazier more then a Bauer who will have us by the throat in another year. Not enough history with him
I think getting on base is also important for the leadoff guy - and DJ is as good as anyone on the team at doing that this year. I believe Voit is the only one with an OBP higher than DJ - Urshela is somewhere close. He might be a hair above.
I think once Hicks really looks like Hicks again, he'll move back into the leadoff spot and then DJ will move down into a better RBI spot where he'll get more PAs with RISP.
I think getting on base is also important for the leadoff guy - and DJ is as good as anyone on the team at doing that this year. I believe Voit is the only one with an OBP higher than DJ - Urshela is somewhere close. He might be a hair above.
I think once Hicks really looks like Hicks again, he'll move back into the leadoff spot and then DJ will move down into a better RBI spot where he'll get more PAs with RISP.
Yeah, I probably should have caveated it, but I think DJLM should stick as leadoff for now, but once Hicks get right, they should switch. That said, last two seasons (2017 and 2018), DJLM's OBP has been on par or better than Hicks. But I'd like the guy with the higher BA hitting with runners on.
there seem to be a lot more Ed Whitson or Sonny Gray bombs. I'd hate to trade Frank Robinson for Milt Pappas. I like our hitters named Andujar and Frazier more then a Bauer who will have us by the throat in another year. Not enough history with him
I like Bauer as a pitcher and talent wise, he can help any team, particularly the Yankees. That said, he should go nowhere near the Bronx. And this isn't "true Yankee" stuff. Bauer is an asshole. He has twitter muscles and he gets involved in all kinds of shit and fighting fans. It's one thing to do that in Cleveland. It's another to do that in NY, and particularly with the Yankees. One bad start and he would melt down. There are personalities who shrink on the stage in NY because they can't handle the pressure (and the names you listed above are great examples). But Bauer is a guy who would come in with a "come at me bro" stance and those types do not last long in NY. I'm not even going to get into the political leanings, which are a factor. But his issues are less political, and more that he's a hot headed prick. Let him fly his drone somewhere else. Go after Max Scherzer and win the whole damn thing.
pipe dream, but a bad break, no pun intended, for Max:
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Max Scherzers nose is feared to be broken, according to multiple people with knowledge of the situation. Scherzer, who was hit in the face with a ball while bunting during BP, is getting further tests now to see if that will be confirmed.
Didn't think they'd deal him this season as they've been a little hot recently.
Judge says he's "100%" - will play two 9 inning games @ SWB and then he's back.
I don't think he'll actually be 100% at any point until next year, and it's player speak, but still... even Judge being a little less than 100% is a big addition.
Can't wait.
Yeah, Beltran said that he was sore all year. Different people heal differently. I doubt the Yankees have gotten him back before he is ready. They are holding their own without him, so why not give him more time if he could use it.
I wouldn't mind Hicks leading off and then DJ second
That way you get your OBP guy on base first, and then a high average guy who can drive him in or move him over up next. And then the avalanche of power. But it probably makes sense to split up the OBP guys between the power guys.
If I had to bet what it'll look like:
DJ
Judge
Hicks
Sanchez
Voit
Stanton
Encarnacion
Didi
Torres
That way you get your OBP guy on base first, and then a high average guy who can drive him in or move him over up next. And then the avalanche of power. But it probably makes sense to split up the OBP guys between the power guys.
If I had to bet what it'll look like:
DJ
Judge
Hicks
Sanchez
Voit
Stanton
Encarnacion
Didi
Torres
I think you'd lose your bet because I don't think there's any way Boone bats a 30 million a year MVP in the 6 hole. I can see him batting 5th for now but before long he'll be 3rd or 4th in the order. Probably 4th.
DJLM
Judge
Giancarlo
Gary
Encarnacion
Voit
Hicks
Didi
Gleyber
This is of course the all-hit, less defense lineup. But with those 9 guys, hard to go wrong making a lineup.
When you look at this lineup you can see why the Yanks didn't really need either Harper or Machado. And just think about trying to squeeze Andujar in there if he was healthy!
When you look at this lineup you can see why the Yanks didn't really need either Harper or Machado. And just think about trying to squeeze Andujar in there if he was healthy!
Yeah I actually thought about that. The better OBP hits higher and then the guy with the better average gets to hit with more runners on. Makes sense.
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Not even playing catch or throwing yet. Jesus Christ. Any century now, bro.
Ugh.
Really hope they make a move for a pitcher like Bumgarner/Scherzer or even Bauer/Stroman at the very least.
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Montgomery's bullpen session today was shut down midway due to discomfort.
Ugh.
Really hope they make a move for a pitcher like Bumgarner/Scherzer or even Bauer/Stroman at the very least.
Bauer at the very least? Hes one of the top 10-15 pitchers in the game today. It would be a tremendous add.
Ive always liked Stromans makeup and profile, but I am leery of buying right now. Most metrics indicate that the results have been better than the stuff this season (i.e. luck has been in his favor). Not that I wouldnt want him, but the price/timing factor...
Assuming Scherzer isnt a realistic possibility, my personal preference in order would be:
Bauer
Boyd
Wheeler
Stroman
MadBum
It would probably take more to get Bauer.
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Montgomery's bullpen session today was shut down midway due to discomfort.
Ugh.
Really hope they make a move for a pitcher like Bumgarner/Scherzer or even Bauer/Stroman at the very least.
Bauer at the very least? Hes one of the top 10-15 pitchers in the game today. It would be a tremendous add.
Ive always liked Stromans makeup and profile, but I am leery of buying right now. Most metrics indicate that the results have been better than the stuff this season (i.e. luck has been in his favor). Not that I wouldnt want him, but the price/timing factor...
Assuming Scherzer isnt a realistic possibility, my personal preference in order would be:
Bauer
Boyd
Wheeler
Stroman
MadBum
I meant Bauer "at the very least" since I don't think its a real possibility because the Indians are still in the WC race and he has one more year of arbitration before FA, so the asking price will be astronomical...
He is obviously a top talent, there is no doubting that. It was probably a poor choice of words on my part.
What do you think it will take to get a talent like Bauer? It will take a lot.
He was elite last year, and seems well above average this year. And he's a clutch bastard. But his best finish in Cy Young was 6. He's not even the best pitcher on his own team. Unless, we're writing off Kluber because of 7 games...
And Bauer is such a fucking asshole. Ugh. I'd simultaneously love and hate if we got him.
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A rumor about the Yanks trading Frazier/Andujar for Bauer. Don't know shit about baseball, but figured I'd pass it along.
It would probably take more to get Bauer.
Section, I'm curious what you think a package would look like that could land Bauer...
And then compare that with what we'd need to land Stroman...
DeGrom
Cole
Verlander
Kershaw
Sale
Snell
Greinke
Ive got him basically even with Kluber (maybe edge to a healthy Kluber but age/recency still keeps it close for me), Snell, Berrios, Buehler, Severino (healthy).
Reasonable minds can disagree but Im very comfortable standing by top 10-15
I tend to agree. I was thinking Frazier/Andujar/prospects (maybe Lasagna as another 'name') should be plenty (two potential all stars and some lotto tickets for a SP) to land nearly any starter. But I was curious about section's thoughts since he seems to think it'll take a bit more for Bauer.
I think thatd get it done pretty quickly. Bauer is a UFA whos let it be known hes not signing contracts for term and intends to go year to year. Cleveland is so budget constrained that I could actually see them declining to offer Bauer a QO out of fear that he actually signs it (mostly joking). Surely there would be some other bidders, but...
Astros - could and might outbid a Frazier/Andujar package.
Rays - maybe.
Minny - really nice farm, but running near the top of their budget already, and does Cleveland prefer not to help out a division rival?
Boston - cant compete w that package without making their pro roster worse.
Dodgers - maybe, but seem likely to focus on bullpen
Atlanta - prospects galore, but very budget-minded. Feels unlikely they give up big prospects for a rental.
Sorry for the double post. Not sure how that happened
It couldn't - just got home, it's pouring out there and has been all day. Maybe by 9 pm or so.
this weather is and has been ridiculous...
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A rumor about the Yanks trading Frazier/Andujar for Bauer. Don't know shit about baseball, but figured I'd pass it along.
It would probably take more to get Bauer.
Section, I'm curious what you think a package would look like that could land Bauer...
And then compare that with what we'd need to land Stroman...
Indians are not out of the race, so Bauer is going nowhere anytime soon.
If he was available I think you need at least a lower level pitcher added. Neither Andujar nor Frazier are MLB fielders at this point. I think Frazier certainly can be and Andujar may need to go to 1B or corner OF.
I also don't think Bauer fits in NYC if you see the shitstorm Frazier raised by not talking to the media, what would happen to his shtick. I like Bauer's stuff, but he doubtfully fits that locker room.
(IMHO)!
I don't think he'll actually be 100% at any point until next year, and it's player speak, but still... even Judge being a little less than 100% is a big addition.
Can't wait.
If DJLM is a RISP machine, then why would you bat him leadoff where he's guaranteed to come up with the bases empty on his first AB every night? And after that, hitting being the 8-9 hitters, who will likely have the lowest OBP's of the team? Wouldn't it make more sense to hit him after a bunch of guys with high OBP's?
I think once Hicks really looks like Hicks again, he'll move back into the leadoff spot and then DJ will move down into a better RBI spot where he'll get more PAs with RISP.
I think once Hicks really looks like Hicks again, he'll move back into the leadoff spot and then DJ will move down into a better RBI spot where he'll get more PAs with RISP.
Yeah, I probably should have caveated it, but I think DJLM should stick as leadoff for now, but once Hicks get right, they should switch. That said, last two seasons (2017 and 2018), DJLM's OBP has been on par or better than Hicks. But I'd like the guy with the higher BA hitting with runners on.
I like Bauer as a pitcher and talent wise, he can help any team, particularly the Yankees. That said, he should go nowhere near the Bronx. And this isn't "true Yankee" stuff. Bauer is an asshole. He has twitter muscles and he gets involved in all kinds of shit and fighting fans. It's one thing to do that in Cleveland. It's another to do that in NY, and particularly with the Yankees. One bad start and he would melt down. There are personalities who shrink on the stage in NY because they can't handle the pressure (and the names you listed above are great examples). But Bauer is a guy who would come in with a "come at me bro" stance and those types do not last long in NY. I'm not even going to get into the political leanings, which are a factor. But his issues are less political, and more that he's a hot headed prick. Let him fly his drone somewhere else. Go after Max Scherzer and win the whole damn thing.
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Max Scherzers nose is feared to be broken, according to multiple people with knowledge of the situation. Scherzer, who was hit in the face with a ball while bunting during BP, is getting further tests now to see if that will be confirmed.
Didn't think they'd deal him this season as they've been a little hot recently.
I don't think he'll actually be 100% at any point until next year, and it's player speak, but still... even Judge being a little less than 100% is a big addition.
Can't wait.
Yeah, Beltran said that he was sore all year. Different people heal differently. I doubt the Yankees have gotten him back before he is ready. They are holding their own without him, so why not give him more time if he could use it.
If I had to bet what it'll look like:
DJ
Judge
Hicks
Sanchez
Voit
Stanton
Encarnacion
Didi
Torres
If I had to bet what it'll look like:
DJ
Judge
Hicks
Sanchez
Voit
Stanton
Encarnacion
Didi
Torres
I think you'd lose your bet because I don't think there's any way Boone bats a 30 million a year MVP in the 6 hole. I can see him batting 5th for now but before long he'll be 3rd or 4th in the order. Probably 4th.