Okay, hardest one: Best OLT, ORT, G and C you ever saw?

LT: Walter Jones
G: (tie) Mike Munchak/John Hannah
C: Mike Webster

C - Dwight Stephenson
G - Russ Grimm
G - Larry Allen
LT - Anthony Munoz
RT - Erik Williams

Is tough.

But Joe Thomas is underappreciated because of the teams he was on. The Browns year after year were just horrendous but Joe Thomas might have been the best technician I've ever seen.

Best LT- Walter Jones/joe Thomas/ Jonathan Ogden

Best G -Larry Allen/ Alan Faneca/ steve Hutchinson

Best center- Kevin Mawae/ nick mangold/ Jeff Saturday

Could not come up with right tackles besides Kmac

Larry Allen is a great choice

LT - Rosey Brown
LG - Darrell Dess
C - Jim Ringo
RG - Jerry Kramer
RT - Forrest Gregg

In comment 14476417 yalebowl said:

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LT - Rosey Brown LG - Darrell Dess C - Jim Ringo RG - Jerry Kramer RT - Forrest Gregg

Dess was one of the most underrated Gs I ever saw

Needs to be included in any conversation

LT. Munoz
LG Hannah /Allen
C. Mike Webster
RG Upshaw/Matthews
RT Eric Williams

Orlando Pace
RT Erik Williams
G Larry Allen
C dermontti Dawson

Didn't miss a game in 10 years, 4 pro bowls; 5 eastern division championships and 1 NFL championship. Long snapping skills allowed Giants to invent shotgun formation; later was offensive line coach at Green Bay in their initial Super Bowl years.

John "Jumbo" Elliott

Allen and Upshaw as OG
Ringo and Webster at C

Best Giant OL I have seen play:
Brown OT
Weitecha C
Snee OG

LT - Jonathan Ogden
G - Larry Allen (ask any defensive player back then who they were afraid of most)
C - Dermontti Dawson
RT - Meh.

LT Munoz
G Hannah, Hutchinson
C Dawson
RT Jackie Slater

I feel like many of the best were a little before my time (70s)

RT, I'd have to say Erik Williams before his car wreck - he was still good after that, but not absolutely dominating the way he had been.

C, probably Dermontti Dawson

Larry Allen was probably the best offensive lineman I've ever seen. He played all over the line and was great at every position.

LT - Munoz
G - Hannah
C - Jim Otto (#00)
G - Munchak
RT - Slater

... Tony Boselli was easily one of the best Left tackles I have seen. And his counter part on the right in Leon Searcy was also great. The best combo I have seen. Larry Allen is the best Guard I can think of. Center goes to Mike Webster.

In comment 14476537 Johnny5 said:

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... Tony Boselli was easily one of the best Left tackles I have seen. And his counter part on the right in Leon Searcy was also great. The best combo I have seen. Larry Allen is the best Guard I can think of. Center goes to Mike Webster.

He was on his way to being a HOF LT but the shoulder injury shortened his career.

was a botched surgery I believe. He was a beast.

If he was building a football team, Larry Allen would be the 1st player he picked.

and watching him come in as a true freshman lineman at Ohio State and dominate collegiate lineman was one of the most impressive things I've ever seen in college football. He was one of the most dominant college football players I've watched play, and an underrated piece of the Warner/Faulk/Bruce teams.

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In comment 14476426 Earl the goat said:

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Needs to be included in any conversation LT. Munoz LG Hannah /Allen C. Mike Webster RG Upshaw/Matthews RT Eric Williams

This is a really thorough breakdown of the best guys I can recall. I'd like to throw a little love out to undersized Vikings OG Randal McDaniel, whose speed and technique pulling were outstanding and really separated him from his peers. He was fine as an in-line blocker as well.

Size, agility, run blocking dominance, and great feet and strength to pass protect.

In comment 14476422 Big Blue '56 said:

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In comment 14476417 yalebowl said: Quote: LT - Rosey Brown LG - Darrell Dess C - Jim Ringo RG - Jerry Kramer RT - Forrest Gregg Dess was one of the most underrated Gs I ever saw

Didn't Dess score a touchdown when Tarkenton lateraled to him near the goal line?

LT - Walter Jones
Guard - Larry Allen
C - Kevin Mawae

Honorable Mention

G - Alan Faneca, Steve Hutchinson
T - Orlando Pace, Joe Thomas

6'9", 340+ lbs with the agility of someone 140 lbs lighter.

In comment 14476691 Gman11 said:

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In comment 14476422 Big Blue '56 said: Quote: In comment 14476417 yalebowl said: Quote: LT - Rosey Brown LG - Darrell Dess C - Jim Ringo RG - Jerry Kramer RT - Forrest Gregg Dess was one of the most underrated Gs I ever saw Didn't Dess score a touchdown when Tarkenton lateraled to him near the goal line?

Yes and I remember seeing it as it happened

In comment 14476689 shockeyisthebest8056 said:

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Size, agility, run blocking dominance, and great feet and strength to pass protect.

Yup good choice - played forever too if memory serves

In comment 14476689 shockeyisthebest8056 said:

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Size, agility, run blocking dominance, and great feet and strength to pass protect.

Choosing a LT is very difficult but Roaf is definitely in the top 3.

I might give a slight edge to Orlando Pace but I would put Roaf second behind him and ahead of Walter Jones, Joe Thomas, and Ogden. Roaf was a monster, he had such a large frame but he was also quick. Once he put his hands on you it was over.

who obviously can be considered an expert's expert in this type of evaluation and he said these 3 guys were the best o-linemen he ever witnessed:

Jim Parker - Colts
Dwight Stevenson - Dolphins
Anthony Munoz - Bengals

In comment 14476665 Alan in Toledo said:

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Stroud was great at G AND OT..Goal line stands as well..:)

Rosie Brown, Ray Wietecha, and Darrell Dess all made the Pro Bowl together in 1962.


In comment 14476711 Big Blue '56 said:

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In comment 14476691 Gman11 said: Quote: In comment 14476422 Big Blue '56 said: Quote: In comment 14476417 yalebowl said: Quote: LT - Rosey Brown LG - Darrell Dess C - Jim Ringo RG - Jerry Kramer RT - Forrest Gregg Dess was one of the most underrated Gs I ever saw Didn't Dess score a touchdown when Tarkenton lateraled to him near the goal line? Yes and I remember seeing it as it happened

big blue you left outthe best guard all time of the giants jack stroud who played through so many knee surgeries

I met him at the 1969 super bowl game

Steve Hutchinson may be as well. C and RT are more competitive so nobody is jumping out head and shoulders above the rest.

The best Right tackle in the league, Bobbi Hart

LT,LG, OC, RT ever to play together on one line?

And they'd be damn close to the 4 best ever picked from any combination of teams and eras, too!

Stumped? It's LT Art Shell, LG Gene Upshaw, OC Jim Otto, and RT Bob Brown... I had to dig to find out more about Brown, but dig this: All four are in the Pro Football Hall of Fame!

Brown might be the least well known of the 4, but coach John Madden said he was the BEST of them, the most aggressive OL Madden had ever seen, and that he taught the others to play OL like a DL, in terms of hand usage.

Sounds more and more like the story the Blind Side that credits Bill Walsh's desire to find and develop a type of LT specifically to man up with Lawrence Taylor might be about 15 years behind the Raiders' crew that already had the style, athleticism, and techniques that The Blind Side postulates came around in the mid 80s.
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In comment 14476402 Russ in Queens, NYC said:

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Is tough.

how about dan dierdorf? Talk about underrated.

LT - Tony Boselli because of how nasty he was, he was a tone setter in the run and pass game.

OG - Larry Allen, no contest.

OC - Dermontti Dawson was my favorite to watch

RT - Erik Williams unfortunately, he was a piece of garbage human but a cement block at RT

Larry Allen is one of the best OL ever.

He was the center of his generation.

Mike Webster, when he was a Badger.

could have gone to HOF at 3 OL positions

before the car accident - wasn't the same afterwards, relied even more on dirty play