NFT: Yankees talk. Let's talk Deivi Garcia!

great start for him:

-Struck out the first 8 batters he faced, and 13 of the first 14.
-Did not give up a hit until 2 outs in the 5th inning.
-63 of 98 pitches were thrown for strikes, with 24 swinging strikes.
-Double digit strikeout performances in 4 of 12 starts this year, and has improved his K:BB rate to 100:28, in 59 2/3 innings. (15.1 K/9)

He just turned 20 years old.

In comment 14476579 ManningLobsItBurressAlone said:

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great start for him: -Struck out the first 8 batters he faced, and 13 of the first 14. -Did not give up a hit until 2 outs in the 5th inning. -63 of 98 pitches were thrown for strikes, with 24 swinging strikes. -Double digit strikeout performances in 4 of 12 starts this year, and has improved his K:BB rate to 100:28, in 59 2/3 innings. (15.1 K/9) He just turned 20 years old.

I've been following him and it seems like his problem is with running into a bad inning in a game here and there where he'll give up a bunch of runs but is fine otherwise the rest of the game.

is that he's only 5'9. His throwing motion puts more strain on him arm then it would if he were taller. That has lead some to suggest he won't age well and/or will end up in the bullpen. He and Clint make for two good trade chips though.

In comment 14476599 Giantsfan79 said:

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is that he's only 5'9. His throwing motion puts more strain on him arm then it would if he were taller. That has lead some to suggest he won't age well and/or will end up in the bullpen. He and Clint make for two good trade chips though.

imo Garcia is not a trade chip. He is the real deal. Whitey Ford was 5'10" and Guidry and Pedro were 5'11". I roll the dice on Garcia and bring him to the Bronx when he is ready.

is thinking about trading Deivi Garcia - absolutely no one.

The kids stuff is electric and among the best in all of prospect baseball.

Yep, Deivi is rising quickly - he's not going to be traded.

Frazier, I could see.... but given the troubles NYY have had developing pitchers; this one looks like he could be a gem and I don't think he's going anywhere.

naturals. They showed Gator pitching during his 18 k game. He weighed about 160 - like Pedro or maybe a touch lighter. Guy threw 94-96 all day long and for 8/9 innings (125/130 pitches). Garcia appears to be just a naturally powerful guy, not overthrowing.
Now Pedro later said had he realized he could get away with 92/93 to go with his changeup (78), he may have lasted longer in the league and not thrown as hard, saving it for when he really needed the extra. Tanaka does that now sits 91-92 but can get to 94 for a little extra.

In comment 14476599 Giantsfan79 said:

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is that he's only 5'9. His throwing motion puts more strain on him arm then it would if he were taller. That has lead some to suggest he won't age well and/or will end up in the bullpen. He and Clint make for two good trade chips though.

And Marcus Stroman who is only 5'7".

IDK if he's Pedro, but he's going to keep moving forward if he keeps getting these kind of results. If he was the size of, say, Roansy Contreras he'd be a Top 15 prospect in baseball. Is he untradable? No, but he's close.

Battles are taking place all over twitter and various boards.

Dumb Yankees Fan: Stanton sucks. He strikes out too much. Can we trade him? So does Judge. That won't work in the playoffs where we need scrappy singles hitters!!! We needed a good clutch hitter like Clint instead of these choke artists.

Smart Yankees Fan: Um, Clint's career K% is 29.3. Stanton's is 28.0. Judge's is 31.5. Meanwhile Stanton has a career 142 wRC+ and Judge a career 154 wRC+. Clint having his "MVP like" season has a 118 wRC+ this year. Their career ISOs are .279 and .288. Clint's is .212. And both Stanton and Judge can actually play the field unlike Clint.

Dumb Yankees Fan: Maybin gotta be the every day CFer now! Bench Hicks the bum!!!!

Smart Yankees Fan: Yes, Hicks has struggled since coming back but remember he missed all of spring training and not everyone gets out of the gate like Didi. But Hicks last year was statistically the 2nd best CF in baseball to Trout. He has averaged a 126 wRC+ the last two years and was a nearly 5 WAR player last year. He is among the best CFers in the game. Maybin is right now on a huge hot streak. But he is 32 and in over 1,000 ML games has a career 93 +wRC. He hasn't been an elite defender since the Padres in 2011. UZR has him about average in RF and LF now which was a massive upgrade over the anemic Frazier. But UZR has Gardner still as a much better field in LF and in CF. Maybin is not a ML league every day CFer and you would be badly exposing him if you played him there both offensively and especially defensively since he hasn't been a regular CFer since about 2015. So be careful getting too giddy about his hot streak.

Deej....

Unlike other starts where Garcia showed flashes of his electrifying swing-and-miss stuff but tailed off because of spotty command and pitch selection, the Dominican mixed his pitches well and demonstrated a more consistent ability to throw all four types (fastball, changeup, curveball, slider) for strikes in all counts.

Especially impressive considering that slider is something he just a month ago started learning and incorporating into his repertoire
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In comment 14476680 Dunedin81 said:

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IDK if he's Pedro, but he's going to keep moving forward if he keeps getting these kind of results. If he was the size of, say, Roansy Contreras he'd be a Top 15 prospect in baseball. Is he untradable? No, but he's close.

He should easily be a Top 20 guy right now. But he wasn't even ranked in the top 100 cause of his size. He has higher end stuff than Casey Mize and Gore who are the top ranked pitchers. His spin rates would be among the best in the majors right now for his fastball and curve. He probably right now profiles as a 70 fastball 75 curve 55 changeup 50 control 65 overall. His changeup has improved a lot and he admits he tries to emulate Pedro with the pitch. That should make him maybe the top pitching prospect in baseball. But because he is 5'9" the experts will be biased against him so he will be lucky to make the top 50 even with his stuff.

Under 6’ and have a decent tracker record developing them so I wonder if their analytics suggest that short pitchers are undervalued. They’ve also been pretty effective at developing value with y’all pitchers.

In comment 14476750 Deejboy said:

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In comment 14476680 Dunedin81 said: Quote: IDK if he's Pedro, but he's going to keep moving forward if he keeps getting these kind of results. If he was the size of, say, Roansy Contreras he'd be a Top 15 prospect in baseball. Is he untradable? No, but he's close. He should easily be a Top 20 guy right now. But he wasn't even ranked in the top 100 cause of his size. He has higher end stuff than Casey Mize and Gore who are the top ranked pitchers. His spin rates would be among the best in the majors right now for his fastball and curve. He probably right now profiles as a 70 fastball 75 curve 55 changeup 50 control 65 overall. His changeup has improved a lot and he admits he tries to emulate Pedro with the pitch. That should make him maybe the top pitching prospect in baseball. But because he is 5'9" the experts will be biased against him so he will be lucky to make the top 50 even with his stuff.

Any chance we see Deivi coming out of the pen late this season to help the club?

But big athletic guys like verlander probably hold up longer term. But small guy have made their mark. See Lincecum.

is the angle the ball comes in at makes it much harder for them to get ground balls. So those guys are always going to struggle with giving up a lot of fly balls and home runs in the modern game.

So it's very different to knock a pitcher for being short vs. a player like a Pedrioa or an Altuvue. It's a legit concern going forward. Having said that I'm still super excited to see what Deivi can do....kid has incredible stuff.

In comment 14477036 Tesla said:

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is the angle the ball comes in at makes it much harder for them to get ground balls. So those guys are always going to struggle with giving up a lot of fly balls and home runs in the modern game.

Interesting. Never heard of that before. Where did you see that?

was also tiny, iirc.

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In comment 14476680 Dunedin81 said: Quote: IDK if he's Pedro, but he's going to keep moving forward if he keeps getting these kind of results. If he was the size of, say, Roansy Contreras he'd be a Top 15 prospect in baseball. Is he untradable? No, but he's close. He should easily be a Top 20 guy right now. But he wasn't even ranked in the top 100 cause of his size. He has higher end stuff than Casey Mize and Gore who are the top ranked pitchers. His spin rates would be among the best in the majors right now for his fastball and curve. He probably right now profiles as a 70 fastball 75 curve 55 changeup 50 control 65 overall. His changeup has improved a lot and he admits he tries to emulate Pedro with the pitch. That should make him maybe the top pitching prospect in baseball. But because he is 5'9" the experts will be biased against him so he will be lucky to make the top 50 even with his stuff.

He has a slider now which apparently proved pretty affective in putting away hitters last night.

I just temper the expectations because big guys might have a longer career. Strasburg Scherzer Ryan Seaver even Cy Young are/were tall guys. Maybe its stamina or leverage but hopefully the little guy will hold up as a starter.

height of a pitcher.

Earlier this month the Yankees drafted 41 players. 25 of those players were pitchers. Of the 25, seven of them were 6'0" or less.

The two highest pitchers drafted by the Yankees this year (TJ Sikkema and Jake Agnos) are both part of that seven that are 6 foot or less.

I think the Yankees are less concerned about a pitchers height than what is being discussed here.

Do you have any news about the Yankees and the status of signing 2nd rounder Josh Smith of LSU or 4th round Jake Agnos from East Carolina?

And what about 13th rounder Nelson Alvarez of South Florida?

The Yankees have signed every one of their top 16 picks except those 3.

Thanks in advance.

In comment 14477220 YANKEE28 said:

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Do you have any news about the Yankees and the status of signing 2nd rounder Josh Smith of LSU or 4th round Jake Agnos from East Carolina? And what about 13th rounder Nelson Alvarez of South Florida? The Yankees have signed every one of their top 16 picks except those 3. Thanks in advance.

Agnos just signed, and Alvarez has signed as well. Linked is a nice draft pick signing tracker from Pinstripe Alley. Smith and DeMarco are the only 2 in the top 20 to not sign so far.
Draft Pick Tracker - ( New Window )

Where I've tried to keep up with bonuses. No news yet about Smith, I'd expect him to sign soon.

*time machine*